I've seen a lot of meta discussion on here describing Chad. Chad is this, Chad is that. Chad is swole and gets laid because of his muscles. No! Chad is a smooth-talking natural who gets laid thanks to social proof that he doesn't even know how he cultivated. He got laid when he was 13!
Chad is all of those things, or none of those things. Point is, Chad is the successful unknown. Chad is whoever makes us feel inadequate. Chad is very real, as anyone whose ever been cuckolded by Chad knows, but a blank canvas is also real. We attribute superhuman ability to Chad, although he is only a man. That's because when you're lying on your back with the lights in your eyes, the man looming above you - the man who knocked out out - looks like a god.
I have had several Chads in my life - but I've also been Chad. I once fucked a girl a few times, then got an enraged phone call from her boyfriend. He screamed and threatened. I hung up. He sent me raging texts. I blocked him. He emailed me. I replied something like, "look man, I'm really sorry this is happening, but... she never mentioned a boyfriend." He emailed me back begging me to stop fucking his girl. Practically sang me Jolene. I - short and skinny with thinning hair - was that man's Chad Thundercock. I easily and flippantly took what he cherished most and smashed his world without even realizing it. He never met me in person - he probably tortured himself imagining me to be a swole stud with a 10-inch cock. I was squarely in AFC territory at the time, but to that man I was Chad.
In college, I was good buddies with Chad. He lived off heiresses, fucked any woman who looked at him... couldn't step outside without tripping into pussy. He fucked a new girl every week easy, and guys naturally kissed his ass. Then one drunken night he told me about his Junior year in High School, when the captain of his basketball team - a senior whom he admired - fucked his girlfriend. His virgin girlfriend, who hadn't even given it up to him yet. He spent the rest of high school a broken introvert. Yes, even Chad has a Chad.
My advice, if you never want to worry about Chad again, is to quit making Chads.
An_All-Beef_Engineer 7y ago
How does that work? The College Chad you used as an example didn't make the Chad that fucked his girlfriend over in the first place
Your_Coke_Dealer 7y ago
Chad is every man who got so bitterly angry they made themselves into that guy they envied. Maybe a select few are "naturals", but most are just guys who improved themselves after some bitch ripped their heart out. Chances are, if you've seen reason to take the pill at all, you can be Chad.
aanarchist 7y ago
treat other dudes like regular dudes, not like they're some obstacle to defeat.
clint_bronson 7y ago
That Jolene reference made my day.
LongtimeRPLurker 7y ago
Socialist have the false belief that they are poor because some rich capitalist is depriving them of their fair share of wealth. Likewise, betas believe that they are doing bad because there is some mystical alpha out there who gets all the women. The truth is that the sex market is not a zero sum game. Sure, there are some who do better than others, but you are mostly in control of what you can get out of it.
5t3fan0 7y ago
Chad is Chad because I ain't Chad myself (not yet).
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
There's always someone above you. Another adversary to defeat, another ally to make. Chad is simply the perception of the woman (territory) laid down. She can believe anything because feelz make it real.
This is why we tell people to improve SMV, maintain frame and have abundance mentality with bitches- because this shit will always continue to happen.
Best thing you can do is put in place defensive mechanisms and an offensive battle plan to stop the threat right in it's tracks.
esperanzablanca 7y ago
Tonight, I was with a SG (suicide girl model) that has a boyfriend. Tonight, I was Chad. The rest of the days, Im just a normal guy. Feels good to win sometimes
dking168 7y ago
Basically, these hoes ain't loyal.
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No, his conclusion was stop fucking women who are in relationships.
WeedDaddy 7y ago
Chad is a genetic recombination jackpot in sexual appeal. Women's genes irresistibly react to him. Most guys won't be able to achieve this no matter what they do:
-contrarian- 7y ago
I don't think I'd even want to be a born a Chad. What's the fun when it's all handed to you on a silver platter?
forcevacum 7y ago
You have no imagination because the Halo Effect of being Chad opens doors to super yachts, boxes at global sporting events and goals far higher than regular people because we have to deal with the mundane life stuff to just keep the wolf from the door.
aherne18 7y ago
I know a lot of Chads and they all think women falling over them is normality:)
WeedDaddy 7y ago
I definitely would. I don't need to go asking around a dozen shops to sell me chocolate to enjoy it. Seduction is not so much a skill as it is a lottery. Sex on demand frees up time for other things.
-contrarian- 7y ago
We want what we can't have.
EatmyShorts59 7y ago
But if it's handed to you, do you truly value it?
It just becomes your normal.
Obviously, we are all looking at it from the outside looking in.
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WeedDaddy 7y ago
Yes. It's a beta mindset to work hard or struggle for something (most of your life) in order to value it and feel that "you earned it". I doubt a man struggling for years and "working on himself" is going to value it, if he finally gets laid at 25 or 30.
luciansolaris 7y ago
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Chad is nothing more than a word for the white alpha male stereotype. We also got Tyrone as the black alpha stereotype. And I'll posit "Ramón" as the Latino alpha stereotype.
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I was thinking more along the lines of this guy.
Black men aren't monkeys. Let that shit go. It's poison. It'll kill you inside.
SaintMarinus 7y ago
Paolo is the South American stereotype.
peruvianlurker 7y ago
Fabio as the Italian stereotype.
slay_it_forward 7y ago
Crocodile Dundee is the Australian stereotype.
rizzla454 7y ago
Vlad is the Russian stereotype
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
I think you mean "Vasiliy". /grin
scriptkiddie1337 7y ago
Muhammed is the Middle Eastern stereotype
Butzemer 7y ago
Manfred is the German stereotype
rizzla454 7y ago
Tyrone as the African-American stereotype
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Genghis...history's greatest "Chad"
BigTexas07 7y ago
If you asked every member on TRP what/who "Chad" is I feel that damn near everyone would have a different response. To me it is almost as if people project their insecurities when they describe their idea of a "Chad". There is no universal one-size fits all to the Chad. If you ask guys all around the world they will have a different response based on what they have seen and been through.
psyflux 7y ago
Seeing Chad = Fuck you! Being Chad = Fuck yeah!
Pessimist_or_real 7y ago
Most people have "chad" wrong. It's not just a guy that's better looking than you. To me a "chad" is a genetic top tier male that knows it. Usually 6'2, square jaw, perfect facial aesthetics, perfect hairline, everything good. Usually white and upper middle class but can come in different variations its usually pretty random. Basically hit the genetic jack pot on pure luck. And from an early age they know it.
spootsnoopy 7y ago
Serious? If Chad's looks are mainly what you think of when you think of Chad, then you don't know Chad. Yes he looks good, but that's not what makes him Chad.
slay_it_forward 7y ago
Chad is an attitude as much as it is looks.
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SeekingTheWay 7y ago
Chad is simply a personification of our personal goals. Your Chad is better than you are now and in the strive to catch up to him, you improve. It is a mind tool to constantly remind us that we can do better. And thanks god for that.
I_Need_More_Space_ 7y ago
I know a Chad. He's a great guy. We are great friends, and I get to hear all the raunchy stories about how one chick takes it in the back door, one chick slobber knocks the cock like a champ, one chick gags by choice, and one chick is smokin' hot but under-performs, etc.
My friend "Chad" is smart on top of that. He does some psychological field stuff which I believe helps him pull tail even more.
Yet, he's a normal guy and a good friend. Some dudes just get lucky with unlimited sex from HB7's to HB10's. I guess I could truthfully say that I wish I had a little of his magic. But, he's also told me that he envies my absolute freedom in life that comes from my own awesome profession.
Everyone wants what they don't have to some degree. And that's alright. Just don't let it consume you. I know that if I was the jealous low-life type, I wouldn't be able to stand being friends with "Chad." Same goes with him. He wouldn't be able to stand watching me do what I want from White Shark diving to Amsterdam trips. We both just tip our metaphorical hats out of respect for one another, and we just enjoy being bro's, talking about chicks, and having good times with someone who see's the world similarly.
Like many have said here, "Women are for fucking. Good guy friends are for having fun and enjoying the good times with real conversation and real adventures." (Paraphrasing)
Even Chad can be a friend if he's a Chad with integrity.
wax_idiotic 7y ago
Plus, everyone's got something to teach others. Once you stop talking, everyone becomes a teacher.
Momo_dollar 7y ago
He's lucky to have you as a friend and not someone who strives to take him down.
Hakametal 7y ago
"if he's a Chad with integrity"
This has always been my gripe with the term Chad. A lot of people here describe Chad as being the stereotype... and they're right. But Chad's can indeed face a life of depression, substance abuse, envy, self-loathing, basically things that we are all exposed to at some point in our lives. I don't want to be Chad, I want to be more.
I have a Chad friend who is literally the best looking guy in the entire university, but his Frame is like matchsticks when it comes to relationships with women (he's literaaly a Chad with beta traits). He's even come to me for advice, to which I've told him he's too soft and he believes his happiness comes from women. He's focusing more on the things he likes now, like rugby and guitar and he seems happier for it.
A Chad without virtue or integrity isn't an alpha. Chad is only a milestone. The real aim is to be the best version of [insert your name].
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Ha. I lost my virginity at 13. Fucked multiple chicks the following months. But my frame was shit, and my game was worse. My whole life I had to put in literally no effort for girls to like me. None. And I'd been getting loads of female attention from as early as 4th grade.
Then, I gained weight for football at 14 and never lost it. And the net pussy gains fell to 0. Literally nothing. I was invisible. You can imagine the psychological effect that had. Depression, retreating into my shell, anxiety and atrocious levels of self consciousness. I didn't know what to do, honestly. Then I found this place and rediscovered what made me the way I was in the first place: confidence. When I was fat I had no confidence, and it put people off.
The difference between me now and myself 44 pounds ago is outstanding. My manor is different, my looks are different and I'm different. In all honesty, being totally ignored was probably beneficial in the long run. If I hadn't been, I guarantee I would've been the typical narcissist douchebag going to junior college with no ambitions. Now I'm disciplined with my diet and my workouts, I have frame, I have ambition and I've cultivated knowledge and skills I never would've before.
metallica11 7y ago
Chad is the guy that you meet at a house party wearing sunglasses and swaying his body like he doesn't care, absolutely no hesitation in his body language. He is flashing the biggest smile. he is the guy at the party your one-itus who you swore is intelligent, innocent, and sweet but blows off your advances end up fucking in the closet when you are not looking.
CHAD walks into the gym and you can just fucking SMELL his masculinity through his sweat and frame. but it's not the old gross decrepit kind.
CHAD is the guy your gf kinda smiles when she thinks of him, while licking her lips slightly and saying to you "don't worry, it was just a phase, I love you, we sometimes still talk but it's nothing"
CHAD works in marketing/business/sales etc. If he is engineering he is a project manager, not an engineer. If he is an engineer he is only there temporarily, or in an usually creative job that allows him flexibility and travel like working at google. CHAD doesn't work in a cubicle crunching numbers. Even if he was good at math, he knows the highs of fucking women and socializing with happy hour in teams that are not socially inept is way more valuable.
Most importantly, CHAD embodies what makes women tingle without even knowing it. He hasn't even thought of it. He just is. His only experience with "seduction arts" and "pick up arts" and even the red pill reddit is the occasional brush in the media and dismissal of groups as some nerdy sub group.
Unholy_VI 7y ago
I love this post.
I've been the Chad and been Chadded too. Some guys get high SMV in their early 20's or even teen years just sort of 'accidently'.
I was like that. But then the bottom caved in. Now I'm slowly building back what I had and didn't appreciate or cultivate like I should have.
Bottom line is a lot of Chads, especially bad-boy Chads, end up with really shit lives in every way other than the ability to pull tail. And honestly, that's a small part of having a good life. It's an important part don't get me wrong. And yeah there are numerous side benefits from being a SMV male.
But this post is right on. It's getting oneitis that makes Chads appear in your life. If you aren't overvaluing some woman, he isn't Chad. He's just some guy getting your sloppy seconds.
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JourneymanTRP 7y ago
Chad is just the modern civilian adaptation of the old marine corps trope of Jody, the guy that's fucking your girl while you're deployed who has a bigger and better cock than you.
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victor_knight 7y ago
Chads usually have a disproportionately large number of descendants.
BobbyJ91 7y ago
Funny enough, our society (and mostly blue-pillers) think that the ones having more children are the ones "married" with a "wife", and therefore children. They do not understand that being locked in, they are limited in the number of children they'll ever have. Chad is not limited. If he wants 10 kids, he can.
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ManlyStoic 7y ago
"Practically sang me Jolene"
Gold.
NeoreactionSafe 7y ago
The death of all Truth is when it is made literal.
Chad represents a concept. He is not beta. He might be Alpha, but he also could be a total loser in many ways. Chad is something that for whatever reason creates Tingles in women.
Chad is female arousal embodied in an abstract concept.
Chad Thundercock is his full name... his cock brings thunder to the minds of women.
Hjalmbere 7y ago
When I was in my late teens/early twenties one of my best friends was a Chad. He had this skinny good looking dangerous rocker/poet type thing going for him (think Johnny Thunders but taller and better looking) and a lot of girls in the university town where we lived just fell into a trance when he looked at them. By 24 he'd already fathered a child with a girlfriend who apparently thought he was daddy material. Guess if he stuck around? By 29 he got married to another woman, fathered two more kids and got divorced a few years later. This time around he fell on hard times. He is now a bloated unemployed pill popping alcoholic living off his fat alcoholic girlfriend and welfare. Some guys peak early and then it's all downhill from there. I moved around a lot and recently got in touch with him, but I realized that this guy has absolutely nothing going for him. All he talks about is stuff he did before he turned 30 and he's now in his early 50s. He posts pics of himself on Facebook from when he was in his 20s! I guess that when a combination of genetics and attitude conspire to give you high SMV, you just take it for granted. Arrogance breeds downfall.
I_Need_More_Space_ 7y ago
That's heavy. I'd like to have pity on all the fuckups in America who fall into addiction and sponging off of the govt., but I CANNOT. I fell into addiction and fought for my life, because I valued myself. Most of the pieces of shit of America fall into the welfare sponging class and don't get out, because even they don't value themselves.
If you can't value yourself, I certainly won't. I save my pity for those who are fighting to become better but fell on hard times. Hell, I also have sympathy for their fight, because I was once there. If you don't have fight to improve, we aren't even the same species in my opinion.
Hjalmbere 7y ago
Not sure what you mean by valuing yourself, but this is a guy who still holds himself in high regard despite the fact that he has accomplished nothing. He's always had high self esteem and this helped him a lot with women in his younger days. It's actually a very interesting case since here we have a guy who's sexual strategy and SMV curve mimics that of a woman. He peaked in his 20s and mooches of his girlfriends/wives.
I_Need_More_Space_ 7y ago
Value for yourself inspires self improvement and survival of hardships. If you don't believe you're worth more than a pile of dog shit, why would you yourself struggle and fight to improve your situation? Many people lack value of themselves, so when they hit bottom they don't bother to fight their way out of the hole. They prefer to sponge from socialist America at that point, because they have no shame/self respect.
Hjalmbere 7y ago
I'm not from the USA so I'm not sure what the typical welfare bum is like over there, but the few welfare bums I've met in my country have oddly had unreasonably high self esteem, a weird sense of entitlement, and also held working stiffs in low regard. They thought they deserved to suck the government's teat.
I might be going out on a limb, but I'm guessing that you didn't have high self esteem when you were down and out, and that is probably what made you get your act together.
I_Need_More_Space_ 7y ago
Well, you are right. I did not have high self esteem when I was a fuck-up. That's due to the fact that I was raised with a variety of tools and techniques that included the shame tactic. I feel like the world would be a better place if people had more shame for their pathetic behaviors. Shame is very good, because it conditions you to be better. It conditions you to expect more from yourself.
AmericanHistoryAFBB 7y ago
This is key. Of course I do wonder if it's better for there to be less Chads than beta Billies for population control. I have also been Chad to some guys when I'm still not even at the SMV I want yet. It's all a matter of perspective.
virusofthemind 7y ago
Chad is Chad because he doesn't give a fuck whether you've banged a girl he's already had as he's already moved on to the next girl.
If two Chad's are in opposition for the same girl then the "apex Chad" is the one who doesn't get her as he doesn't give a fuck that the other Chad has.
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razorazo 7y ago
most men CAN be Chad and ALL men will be Chadded!
a while after that, he found the manosphere
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LordThunderbolt 7y ago
You guys have it all wrong. There's Chad in the cherry typical sense which is the tall hood looking and guy white guy who dresses nice and pulls chicks. And there's the idea of Chad which can fit any race, it's just the idea of a guy who's successful at life and chicks.