Link: http://archive.is/N3SBb
Summary:
"I would love to be a mom. I just don't know ... I kind of need a guy first," Vonn told CNN, while promoting her new Reese's Peanut Butter Cups ad. "[Dating is] tough. Most of the time the normal guys are too intimidated and the guys that have enough confidence, have too much confidence. It's really hard, I haven't navigated my way very well."
Translation:
For the regulars, you know the drill.
For the newbies:
.. normal guys are too intimidated
The beta cucks can't even talk to her. Of course this is just pattern recognition on the part of the average man. "If she goes for studs she's not gonna go for me, ergo our relationship is dead before it starts, ergo I shouldn't even bother with her." Actually, this is a good defense mechanism for the betas for avoiding this trap.
.. It's really hard, I haven't navigated my way very well.
Awalt. CC. etc, etc. Nothing to see here.
.. guys that have enough confidence, have too much confidence.
Studs know if "she's been with a zillion studs she's not marriage material, ergo why bother with her, ergo short term relations, ergo no marriage from them either." That's actually a good defense mechanism too. (Of course the common denominator in those relationships is her. I wonder if she will consider she needs to change herself ...?)
"I want someone that is self confident, but doesn't have a huge ego. Someone who supports everything I do and doesn't hold me back. Someone who encourages me to do what I want to do and what's good for me and my skiing and my life."
NOPE.
Lessons Learned:
For millennial women? None.
She wants a stud to be a beta but can't catch either and her times running out.
However, this is now happening to a LOT of these millennial women so I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see a shift in their approach to 'dating' due to a confluence of:
- Women competing with other women
- Articles like this
- Betas opting out
- Internet culture leaking red pill causing more uncucked men to also apt out
- This sub's influence
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Xander756 7y ago
This is actually really funny. I can't wait until over the course of the next 10-15 year when the rest of the millennial sluts all start aging out and are still single. Imagine the new class of desperate 30-somethings.
PantsonFire1234 7y ago
Honestly though, I'd fuck that woman silly. Actually incredibly hot for a 31 year old. And with fuck I mean fuck, not commit god no.
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
Blah blah blah entitled to everything blah blah blah.
She looks like a fucking nightmare with nothing to offer any babymania. Give me a sweet 25 yr old over being compared to Tiger Woods any day.
zpatriarchy 7y ago
nobody is intimidated by her, regular guys just know she's an alpha widow & should be avoided.
yomo86 7y ago
I always love how betas - including my former self - behave. Even those skinny, fat, unsuccessful men are in the end... men. I have to deal with so many guys ie orbiters... said no chick over 37 ever.
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103342 7y ago
I don't think the average guy understands the amount of dick that is offered for a girl on a weekly basis.
Social media is a total game changer for LTR. A girl has, constantly, a way out of the relationship at the tip of her finger, this isn't healthy for either side of the relationship.
Your comment sums up really well something that every guy that intends on getting on a LTR should understand.
KyfhoMyoba 7y ago
Remember Chris Rock's bit? (I'm paraphrasing) "Everything a man says to a woman is an offer of dick. He holds the door for you? What he's really saying is 'Want some dick?' Compliments your hair? 'Want some dick?' Asks you for directions? 'Want some dick?'"
TryDoingSomethingNew 7y ago
Some great reasoning behind your long but quality comment.
I'd wager you're very correct, and even yet I look to there being other things coming that we didn't (fully) forsee.
Given how it is so common for women/girls to grow up pursuing validation/attention with little if any consequences...or should I say "in the short term"...this appears to be a cultural trend that is only getting worse.
I recall how it was once somewhat shameful at least to some degree to be considered "slutty" or "easy". That appears to no longer be the case much here in America and similar societies.
It amazes me the older women who are out in public, on dating sites, Tinder, etc., who-rather than conceding and being humbled by Father Time, often still have a warped sense of self-value and rationalize away the type of men they believe they deserve.
Men who are relatively intelligent and learn over the years realize this, on average, I believe, and much like myself only take these types of women to be worthy of "fun" and short-term sexual flings.
Any relatively smart, red-pill man knows the sane, respectable women were probably were taken years ago and would not be out on the dating market being picky.
Given how so many women are out of touch with reality, are arrogant, and have an inflated sense of self, I definitely see how suicide could increase in years to come.
That blow to the ego as the wrinkles start creeping up and that Blue Prince never trots in on his royal stallion to whisk her away to a fabulous dream life is quite an earth-shaker.
103342 7y ago
This is the truth that a lot of guys refuse to accept. I've accepted this when I started swallowing TRP.
The next generation of attractive western girls 16~20 is the peak of arrogance and entitlement that humanity as ever seen.
Fortunately, they are also slutty.
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7thAnvil 7y ago
Absolute first rate commentary. It should really be it's own post. Newly read pilled men, this is for you: One of the many corollaries of momosgarge's commentary is do NOT rely on online dating (or other social media) as your exclusive or even primary method to meet/game women. I speak from experience: Game is very difficult to communicate through photos and the written word. You just get lost in the barrage of validation fired at the girls online. Over the past week I approached and got numbers from two hot girls both over 15 years my junior. One has sent me hot photos and wants to get together soon. The other is excited to be invited to a small party I'm hosting this weekend. Over the same past week, I have messaged (through online dating apps) maybe 12 - 15 women close to my age or even a bit older. Women who undeniably would be salivating all over me if I were to game them in person. My result? Three messaged me back. Two quickly lost interest (i.e. got distracted by the endless possibilities hammering their inbox). Only 1 slightly cute woman gave me her number and 'plans' to meet up with me sometime this weekend. I postulate that once you have fully swallowed, internalized, and are living the Red Pill - one obvious sign will be the enormous gulf that opens up between the quality of females you can effectively game in person versus the quality of the ones you can attract through online dating/social media 'gaming'.
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howard333 7y ago
That is so fucking sick it has to be true.
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All it take is one match that actually finishes with a sexual encounter for a man to BELIEVE it works. It's a numbers game for men. Swipe, swipe, swipe goes your finger; click, click, click goes the mouse button. If after 500 tries you get sex: PRAISE ALLAH! IT WORKS!!!!
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overwatchtinder 7y ago
? If you're hot you do more than well
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overwatchtinder 7y ago
For starters, I have pictures of me. I just have them. Putting them in a profile isn't work. Pictures are fun.
secondly I try to arrange to meet girls within 3 messages. These are not well-crafted paragraphs. These are 3 sentences, generally effortless. After that it's standard logistics.
I don't care about most men. I care about me. I enjoy meeting people with my phone.
sk0756 7y ago
What is the likelihood that Tiger swallowed the red pill? Maybe he learned his lesson
TheRedThrowAwayPill 7y ago
He was cheating on his wife with a bunch of escorts that were as hot as she was. Clearly he was AF before the divorce rape.
If anything he learned not to get married to blondes anymore.
juliusstreicher 7y ago
IIRC, most of them weren't as hot as her. Could be mistaken, tho.
p00pey 7y ago
he was banging absolutely disgusting slores. He was more an idiot horndog than an AF tbh. And the fact that he married up and went out doing this def makes him not AF.
Wanna see AF, please see Derek Jeter. He didn't get half his shit taken for banging models all his life, though he's now made the plunge. And from what I hear, he's been passing on the herpes to anyone and everyone he bangs. AF as fuck!
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As a Yankees fan, Derek Jeter is my idol for the type of life to live. One of the best at baseball, makes a fuck ton of money on just endorsements, bangs hot models and didn't get divorce raped. He also has never had any sort of scandal, like that douchenozzle, Alex Rodriguez. Derek Jeter is alpha as fuck.
Just look at his dating diamond: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1623911/images/o-DEREK-JETER-facebook.jpg
thewrightstuff88 7y ago
He was AF in the celebrity sense. There was a story where he was hanging out with Jordan and Jeter in the early part of his career at a party and saw these women and had NO IDEA how to approach them. Jordan said to tell them he is Tiger Woods, and it was gravy from there.
poochman 7y ago
There's also the pretty strong rumor that Tiger was fucking chubby beta golfer Jason Dufner's HOT ass wife (and cheating on Vonn), which in turn caused her to divorce rape Dufner. Assuming it's true, if that's not AF/BB I don't know what is. Tiger is the fucking man.
http://thebiglead.com/2015/07/01/tiger-woods-cheated-lindsey-vonn-amanda-dufner-jason-dufner/
Pics of Amanda Dufner who is a legit 10 at the bottom.
aDrunkenWhaler 7y ago
Legit 9. Great body, average face.
juliusstreicher 7y ago
Face is about a 6, and bod is about 7 or 8. Not a thing wrong with it, but, nothing that is a 9. Also, one of the pics makes me think she had a boob job.
Other than an alimony/childsupport scenario, I think that ol' Jason got lucky.
aDrunkenWhaler 7y ago
7-8 body? You must be high on crack, mate. Less than 1% of women in the world have a body that can be compared with hers.
www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/files/2014/07/4.-Amanda-Dufner.jpg
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HAHA. That's freaking awesome and it's so true though. Just use the status to pump and dump those chicks.
dr_warlock 7y ago
Tiger could get gorgeous women, but he always chose basic ass. Never understood that.
WAFC 7y ago
He's a sex addict. I'd wager 'basic ass' tries a lot harder for Tiger Fucking Woods.
ramaga 7y ago
You know what I call a sex addict who goes to rehab? Quitter.
But seriously, though I'm not a health professional, sexual addiction has always struck me as nonsense. Most men would be "sex addicts" if they had the kind of access to pussy Tiger had (and probably still has despite his diminished status in the golf world).
WAFC 7y ago
He's still a legend at the bank, even after Elin took her cut. Women never cared how good he was at golf.
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WAFC 7y ago
Who, other than a sex addict, has the patience and energy to fuck three new people per day?
juliusstreicher 7y ago
Patience?? Are we talking about the same sex addicts?
Canadaismyhat 7y ago
raises hand
If it was easy.. like it would be if you were the #1 golfer in the world like Tiger was...
WAFC 7y ago
Better man than I, I suppose. It's a matter of time before it becomes a chore and a hassle managing all those hamsters. Of course, his real mistake was getting married.
JourneymanTRP 7y ago
I like how she refers to 'normal' guys as if another species to confident ones. The sense of entitlement shines through so brightly.
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afkb39sdfb 7y ago
Jesus, all those A-list celebrity women, Derek Jetter is a fucking God.
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Derek Jeter having herpes, people knowing about it and still getting hot chicks to bang him is pretty alpha. Wouldn't want herpes, but not many people can do that.
If he was single, there would still be tons of chicks lining up for him. Like shooting fish in a barrel
poochman 7y ago
Herpes isn't that big of deal as the stigma implies. Like 60% of the population or something has simplex I and many of those people with healthy immune systems don't even have outbreaks or any symptoms. Unless there's visible nastiness on someones lips or genitals, who cares.
Assassin1476 7y ago
"..normal guys are too intimidated."
Because normal guys know that you're not going to go from dating Tiger $700 million fucking Woods to some square dude with a normal job so it's not even worth the attempt. Especially since your definition of normal guy is "millionaires"
HoundDogs 7y ago
There are no such things as "normal" millionaires. They can afford to be a lot, but they can't afford to be normal.
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from an LTR perspective, she's so fucked. tiger alpha widowed her. that means you need to beat his celebrity, 10+ inch black cock, and bottomless pile of cash, or she'll despise you. "she's settling" for anyone less than tiger. hookups maybe if you know how to use it, but there's no way to keep the tingles live long term.
even worse, she's visibly hitting the wall. her pics put her at a rapidly declining 7 or 8 but are probably photoshopped. girls with her looks are a dime-a-dozen, and you don't have do deal with the alpha widow issues.
juliusstreicher 7y ago
Yep, if she thinks she's going to get any of the major players that she thinks she's gonna get, she's got another think coming.
KartagoPill 7y ago
women are extremaly picky and will squeeze out their value. The BAR is too damn HIGH. So ditch that bitch.
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TryDoingSomethingNew 7y ago
Bingo. The "why bother" is an amazing perspective.
Women simply seem to not being able to begin to comprehend that that's what many men are thinking today, not necessarily even MGTOW.
knightSwolaire 7y ago
He's Asian too.. I wonder how his genetics actually played out ha
DenyHerYourEssence 7y ago
Pretty well according to the many women he nailed while he was with his wife.
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Age is so incredibly cruel to women. Nature is harsh lol
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It's harder on women than men but their looks can last a lot longer than they do. Remember that women aren't instilled with a sense of working for everything like men are and their beauty is no exception.
There's a massive difference between a woman in her 40s and even 50s who has seriously taken care of herself (stayed out of the sun, stayed fit, no smoking/drugs etc.) and one who hasn't. Obviously she's not going to compete with some 18 year old but she doesn't have to be fugly either.
TedTheAtheist 7y ago
Haha I was sitting in Starbucks with this 33 year old, and she said how much it sucks that men get "more sophisticated" and better with age, and they just get shittier... reality sucks.
FLFTW16 7y ago
A woman that maintains her value (low or ZERO N-count) and cashes in as early as possible scores the absolute best life for herself. An 18 year old woman can land a mature 30 year old male whose career is established, and at that age is probably mature and willing to settle down for what she has on offer. She can have herself a family and then has plenty of time to do school part time or do any job, or, if they are traditional, she doesn't work at all. The government guarantees that she will never starve or go homeless, and will never be abused by her spouse without repercussion. She has the resources of the entire country at her disposal to grow a family in safety and luxury.
The fact that so few women take the easiest and best option available to them doesn't mean their life sucks. It means they are truly poor at managing their lives and that men ought to manage their lives for them. But, oops! There are no fathers--much less patriarchs--to do the managing. Guess it's a life of independent womynhood, complaining about the trials and tribulations of having two X chromosomes, and cats. Oh, the cats...!
TedTheAtheist 7y ago
Yea, I'm definitely going to get with an 18-24 year old whenever I do settle down.
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This is no secret - women are well aware that age is not their friend. My single female friends all PANICKED publicly on facebook when their 30th birthday hit. Crying and everything. I mean, it's gotta be awful. As attractive women, their body is what they've used their entire life to be the life of the party, the center of attention.
And now nature is stealing that from you, and never, EVER returning it back again. And now you get to watch as a new generation of girls takes place of who you used to be, and they get the attention you once had. And the men who used to chase after you now chase after the newcomers, as you boil over with rage and jealousy.
Damn.
TedTheAtheist 7y ago
hahah that seems so cruel.. damn you nature. :)
RPAlternate42 7y ago
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/06/30/lindsey-vonn-still-love-tiger-woods.html
This sums it up. Alpha Widow. Good luck with your next beta, lady.
evileddy 7y ago
Welcome to the wall! Population: YOU
"I want something that's impossible so it must be men's fault"
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Come on guys, Man up! Her decrepit narcissistic ass is ready to have the cobwebs dusted out of her womb so she can yield some down syndrome babies. No takers? She selfishly devoted every waking second towards her own agenda and mission instead of utilizing the only gifts she could give a man - youth, fertility and beauty. Sorry cupcake, can't fuck your childhood dreams. We as men raise them to be like little boys, teaching them to go out and conquer the world because we for some reason can't stop projecting our own aspirations on to them. They are not sons. We've created a college loan bubble that will soon consume the entire economy because of this. It's time we start living by the credo "better she cry, than we cry" when it comes to empowering our little snowflakes. No amount of poser affirmative action based awards and trophies can ever give this haggard bitch another shot at being happy. They have so little that's required of them: youth, fertility and obedience. They need to start hearing NO YOU CAN'T, alot younger and alot more frequently.
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She's a hell of a skier, I'll give her that! Women just have to deal with a different set of tradeoffs. You pays your money and ya takes your chances.
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hawkeaglejesus 7y ago
She'd be an 18 on the Patrice scale.
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She's very good looking for 31 y/o.
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Badadviceforfree 7y ago
30-35 is when the chance of flipperbabies skyrockets.
FunSizeChad 7y ago
Idk man I know we give women a ton of shit for their looks once they pass 30 but that's just about as close to as good as it gets for a 31 year old.
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FunSizeChad 7y ago
She was banging Tiger, of course her standards are stupid high.
stawek 7y ago
The point is: no matter how close to "perfect 30" she gets, she is still losing to 20s. The prettiest women in her 30s still look worse than an average 18.
FunSizeChad 7y ago
Well, yeah, of course. But that wasn't the question asked. 23 year old Vonn slays both the versions of Vonn asked about.
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You're out of your mind.
You might be able to say she looks worse than her 18 year old self, but the average 18 year old does not look like shakira or beyonce.
TedTheAtheist 7y ago
I've noticed this, a lot. It's so sad. I've seen ladies in their 30's workout a LOT, stay in shape, etc.. really trying to stay in the game. They try so hard.. but, although that might help somewhat, and get them more cock to keep them occupied, unless they are going for guys 60+ of age, they really aren't going to land much still long term.
thewrightstuff88 7y ago
Give her credit, she's an olympic athlete so generally good looks will come due to her ability to stay in shape. She's in the top 15% of women who are 30+ simply because of this. The rest are definitely looking like sour milk.
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Nothing says we have to go for 31 year olds though. Not only are her looks fading fast as she hits the wall, ability to compete at the Olympic level disappears too. Unless she prepped a non-athletic future, she's stuck starting from scratch, becoming a trainer, or getting an MRS degree. And because Tiger alpha widowed her, she'll be stuck on the pump n dump train until she settles for a beta... who she'll despise. It's classic TRP.
mrp_1844 7y ago
I never understood what an "alpha widow" was until now.
Very interesting.
SW9876 7y ago
15 is a little young for my tastes.
Godtiermasturbator 7y ago
It's a little young for your love of freedom, not your lizard hindbrain
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SW9876 7y ago
Sounds like a deal. I'll be waiting
TryDoingSomethingNew 7y ago
I like especially the next to last part where you highlighted the me me me clues.
Great post. Amazing what is obvious to those who can smell the post-wall woman's nonsense, isn't it?
StuttBuffer 7y ago
I like how you highlighted how she views her future husband primarily as an accessory for her ego. No desire to serve or care for another person. That relationship is doomed before they even meet.
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Also having a kid at 31 is dangerous and this is often times overlooked. Higher risk of autism and many more DNA mutations at that age. Women starting a family that late is selfish and shows her lack of knowledge.
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31? You are overstating the risks. They increase exponentially every year, but the risk at 31, even up to 34 for women is not as high as you make it sound. Birth defects happen for young women too. I'll recommend you trust your own risk assessment, but I would suggest you are misunderstanding the actual risk level.
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Yes it's more for the latter 30s and then 40s where he chance of Down''s is about 1 on 3-400
FLFTW16 7y ago
That's the thing. She isn't having kids any time soon. She is too busy training for the next Winter Olympics. Even if she met Mr. Perfect (she won't) it would take 2-3 years at MINIMUM to get married, that is if they even have time for each other. She will be one of those women who freeze their eggs OR have their first kid at 37, 38, 39....
There is no social pressure or stigma put on women to have kids at a healthy age. There is only ra-ra-you-go-girl cheer leading, even from the medical profession. I'm all for people overstating the risks because we are due for a major correction on this front. The clock is ticking and the older they get the more the next generation bears the burden of mental and physical defects. The cost of feminism is high and it is borne most unfairly by the innocent.
overwatchtinder 7y ago
Why pressure them to have kids at all? 7 billion people fam
FLFTW16 7y ago
Because idle women are the Devil's plaything. Without family to tend to women agitate against men. They become Femen protestors or wannabe Lena Dunhams. They become careerists and poison workplaces that men must inhabit. Their hamsters run wild in all sorts of destructive ways.
The idea that 7 billion is "too many" is misanthropic propaganda by people who daydream of totalitarian world government that culls the herd. We are this close to spreading out among the stars with infinite space and resources for our use.
SwagnumMagnum 7y ago
Shoulda let Tiger squirt some kids in her then, Tiger gets a bad rap. He's just a dude that like pussy. Big deal. He cheated. OMG he's so bad!!!! Guarantee you his children will want for nothing, ever. They're multi millionaire's and they don't have to do anything. Man, thanks Dad!
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beginner_ 7y ago
Well you could also go full machiavellian, marry her and then cash out. She will for sure have higher income than you and so forth. Be a male golddigger. And she looks ok so no issue on that front. maybe she is annoying, that could be a problem...
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Probably a little bit harder now that she's hitting the wall too.
The clock is ticking, Ms. Vonn.
pfthewall 7y ago
reading her "some guys don't have confidence and some guys have too much" shows how women can't make up their minds. They want a doormat who is also not a doormat, and he's supposed to magically know what she wants him to be at every second of the day. I say to hell with that.
That said, Lindsey Vonn does have a great ass.
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Women pro athletes are not feminine enough
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It doesn't necessarily mean that. Don't say that only beause we're on TRP and it's "alpha" to say it. There are other possibilites, such as she thinks she was too focused on career and now it's a little late for her. It could also mean she's sorry that she broke up with mr. Woods.
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Olympian incest is a known phenomenon.