This is an example of how American and Western society is broken, of how Fathers are marginalized and unappreciated, of how they get no credit, of how having a penis indirectly means you are responsible for any woman's past daddy/career/gender issues.
It also is extra infuriating compared to the same old "cheating woman" posts, because this guy is a father and a damn good one. Yet the reactions are:
I ended up like a lot of girls that are interested in science, pursuing a more academic track, rather than the more hands-on, industry careers, like engineering. I like what I do, but given how much harder it is to find a job in academics than in engineering, I have some regrets.
Me. Me. Me. Oh, did I mention ME?
Solipsism, gentlemen. The inability to define or explore any idea a part from yourself or your interests. Here, OP is blamed because this girl failed to realize that being a post-doctoral is a pretty shitty career. This is all due to OP her father not letting her have a chemistry set. Riiiiiight.
I'm a woman. Please don't perpetuate the stereotype that only men construct or fix things.
ME! I'm a woman, by the way. Did I mention I'm a woman! I'M A WOMAN!!!
And what stereotype? Where's all the woman clamoring and forming special political groups to be garbage men? Rescue workers?
This guy looked at the 2010 U.S. Bureau of Labor Stats and Census
99% of garbage collectors are men.*
100% of deep sea fishermen are men.
100% of electrical power line installers are men.
100% of roughnecks (work the oil drill) are men.
99% of auto repair mechanics are men.*
99% of roofers are men.*
100% of heating, air conditioning and refrigeration mechanics are men.
98% of metal fabricators are men.
97% of aircraft maintenance and service technicians are men.
95.5% of firefighters are men
92% of construction workers are men.
88% of patrol officers are men.
But don't worry, when a woman actually NEEDS one of these services, she will make sure not to complain that it's a man doing some "man activity" or "man lesson".
And here's what takes the cake:
Try just being happy that a father wants to bond with his son.
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You just couldn't help yourself. They're are few things more presumptuous and rude then an unsolicited opinion but to interject your gender politics into how this man raises and bonds with his children is disgusting.
-15 downvotes for both of these. Yes, this is apparently a terrible thing to exist in the world.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 9y ago
I do push ups with my daughter on my back. She loves it. My wife says I'm exploiting her.
So I started having my daughter do push ups while I push on her back. She loves it. My wife says I'm riling her up and making her wild.
So I took a break and had a pretend tea party with my daughter. She loves it. My wife yelled at me because I was wasting time I should have been helping with some household chore.
My little girl started crying when she heard mommy yell, and my wife rushed in to rescue her from my shitty parenting, screaming the whole while.
That night at bedtime, unsolicited, she tells mommy she's mean. Mommy yells at daddy for teaching her that.
Does anybody actually pay attention to shit women say any more?
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I am never getting married; dealing with shit-tests to pump and dump is fine, but dealing with daily shit tests to not get fucked by the state? That's too much bro.
imaRPman 9y ago
My wife complains that the dog wants nothing to do with her and will only lay next to her if I'm in the room.
My reply was: "Dogs respond to the people that feed, walk and play with them".
tatertotmonkey 9y ago
My ex-wife used to do the same shit to me. Stay strong, man.
TomHicks 9y ago
This was long ago right? You don't put up with it anymore right?
clam61 9y ago
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barmaleo 9y ago
Probably more to do with your wifes jealousy than "improper" parenting on your part. In her eyes it means whatver you do, you do it wrong.
aaron_the_great 9y ago
Arch, your wife sounds like a bitch. I've been following your posts for awhile - I mean you're the first "regular" I started noticing since coming here and you're still one of my favorite contributors. I've noticed a lot in the past the problems you've had with her yet at the same time you spout truth after red pill truth. I'm honestly confused: why not just go for a divorce? Sounds like you're getting stuck with a raw deal.
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Cuntshitassfuck 9y ago
Only fools. We basically have to ignore everything they say and only consider their actions.
t21spectre 9y ago
Kids are great. Unfortunately most come with mothers.
RedHeimdall 9y ago
That should be on a bumper sticker
Dopebear 9y ago
They can be a bundle of fun and hilarity. I've noticed that shitty kids tend to have shitty (single) mothers.
DevilMayCry 9y ago
I just read this story out loud to my girlfriend and she says it must be made up in order to make women look bad. Typical.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 9y ago
This comes up a lot.
If I'm talking to a guy, his response is nearly always, "omg, my bitch of a wife is exactly like that, too!"
If I'm talking to a girl, I'm informed that I must have married the one uniquely bad woman on earth. And that I'm clearly exaggerating and that we need to hear my wife's side of things.
n0c0ntr0l 9y ago
Your wife is so toxic, I wonder how you do it!
Jigsus 9y ago
That's the kind of household I grew up in. Such is life.
StarDestinyGuy 9y ago
Why do you tolerate this behavior from your wife?
bluedrygrass 9y ago
Unfortunately often there isn't even that much that is doable. Many women are shitty and malfunctioning beyond correction.
MrHoman 9y ago
The pussy is so strong in this neighborhood.
Hatorader 9y ago
Or from anyone for that matter. Such disrespect.
Endevour 9y ago
Maybe it wasn't real, but served as a hypothetical scenario not really far from the reality many of us experience.
evilkenevil 9y ago
Then again it could be real. Putting up with this behavior is tricky when there is a kid involved. I dance the line constantly with my SO over similar parenting events. I constantly have to reinforce my frame. To the casual observer my frame is weak, but there is a frame. I want to stay for my kids. When the kids move out my frame goes full size and she'll either take it or leave it. I don't care anymore.
RedPope 9y ago
Children deserve a strong father. It is his duty to teach them what it means to be a man, a husband, and a father. Their father is the yardstick against which they will measure all future men. These lessons are imprinted during youth. "I'll fix it after they've grown up," is the same as saying "I'll fix it once it no longer matters."
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makethemsayayy 9y ago
Yeah please answer, if she was great LTR and started doing this randomly? This would be really helpful to know if this behavior can sprout randomly from an otherwise good prospect for LTRs, because goddamn are they few and far between.
Philhelm 9y ago
I can only speak for myself, but that behavior can spring almost overnight. My wife used to be sweet as a cherry pie until she got pregnant. It started with demands, bitching, and emotionality, but I took it on the chin since I thought it was some stupid hormonal thing from being pregnant (probably partially true). She then got pregnant again a few months after the first was born.
I think part of the problem was that she became comfortable with the idea that it is acceptable to be a raging cunt. The problem is that once you're married with children, your balls are in a vice unless you earn a lot of money to shrug off divorce rape. Not to mention that the children will be weaponized against you.
Bulldog44 9y ago
I know this is going to sound overly simplistic, but I was married for ten years, and for the first eight of those years, any behavioral problems were always solved by fucking her until she was worn out. People in marriages and with kids have a way of letting sex slide to the bottom of the list, this is a terrible mistake for the man to make, they need what little brains they have to be fucked out on a near constant basis.
makethemsayayy 9y ago
Hm, sounds lovely. Soooo, surrogate it is.
angryuser_trp 9y ago
I'm assuming you didn't marry an outright crazy woman, so my guess is your wife feels like she's neglected or threatened by her own daughter. I got a daughter on the way with my wife too. Yet already there are sings of my wife getting scared of becoming the second in line.
bluedrygrass 9y ago
Another common issue with mothers. Seeing childrens as tools or competitors.
KidGrizz 9y ago
You will go thru a bunch of sht....just part of the process. Welcome.
beerthroway 9y ago
You can't safely assume he didn't marry a crazy woman. BPD and NPD both can be very concealed and enticing to a BP man. These type of women give men an extreme amount of validation in the beginning to snag them. If Archwinger says he was very BP and married this woman and had a kid, then became RP, it's entirely reasonable to assume she is bat shit crazy and he's willing to put up with it for the kid. Both BPD and NPD women would be extremely jealous of their own children.
angryuser_trp 9y ago
True that. Though on my defense, Archwingers replies were not present until after I wrote my comment.
beerthroway 9y ago
No need for a defense. Your post was truthful and nothing contradicted what you said beyond the assumption that she isn't crazy. ;)
down_with_whomever 9y ago
Sincere question: are you serious? What fresh hell is this?
For real, man, I love your posts and I always make a point of reading them so I know you're a guy that has his shit together.
Therefore I have to ask what the hell is the deal with that. When did your wife start behaving this way? Is she consistently this way, or only sometimes? Did she start doing this immediately after you had kids, immediately after marriage, or was she this way when you were dating her? If she was this way, why did you marry her?
I'm sure you get why I ask.
Cyralea 9y ago
Not OP, but I can wager a guess: AWALT. This is default female behaviour. Spend enough years with any given woman and this is how they start to behave, irrespective of how pleasant and nice they were pre-marriage.
At least, that's been my observation from my older, married friends.
pl231 9y ago
you guys realize that you can't completely condition crazy out of a woman? like there's a default amount of crazy that will always be there.
people in this sub confuse not-accepting extreme hamstering and bullshit from a woman with not accepting any. you're never going to be able to tolerate being around women if you don't accept any bullshit. its just how they work
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 9y ago
The best I seem to be able to get my wife is one bitch fest a month and sex once a week. But I started at getting berated daily and having sex every two months. So it's been a big step up. Divorce isn't on the table due to the fact that I love my child more than life itself. But don't tell my wife that.
I was a huge loser. Apologizing constanty, buying flowers, hiding shit from my wife so she wouldn't yell at me, arguing logically to try to defend myself. The works. It was bad. Really bad. And she was so unhappy back then. She took it out on our kid. Yelling, swearing at her. Calling her dirty words. I did this red pill shit for my little girl.
wunderzunge 9y ago
So what did you change concretely?
n0c0ntr0l 9y ago
Your wife is setting a TERRIBLE example of how your daughter can grow up to be though.
Do you want your daughter to grow up to be like her, even though she's lucky that she has you to counter balance.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 9y ago
I do a lot more good being present every day versus one evening a week and every other weekend.
KidGrizz 9y ago
I think a lot of dudes here(RP) don't have children and LTR's so they cant identify. They figure she disrespectful, next her. Its not that simple when you have a child you love and care about. I know what its like man and sometimes you do put up with the mother's bullshit! Not that you want to or don't want to. You know its part of the process. When my baby moms get mad she say I don't do nothing for my daughter, she say she do it all by herself and a bunch of other dumb sht that's not true. I don't fuss with her about it. I move on and make sure my daughter good. AWALT!!! Later she praise me for trying to help. They are fucking crazy!! AWALT!! Sometimes you do what you have to for your child/the relationship.
CryptoManbeard 9y ago
I think you may not realize the impact of being saddled by crazy can have on your parenting. Where do you live? I have 50/50 of my kids after the divorce (not going to lie where I live that took a lot of fighting), my life has never been better.
I think when you stick around you make a subliminal comment that the bad behavior is acceptable. I know it's hard but I'd much rather see my kids every other weekend + thursdays knowing that two people shouldn't treat eachother that way then be like my relatives who stayed together until college and their kids' view of marriage and relationships is completely fucked over.
That being said, in many states 50/50 is normal and I can't tell you the weight off my shoulders when I left that bitch. I had no idea how much I was affected. I am a 100x better parent now then I was seeing them every day. The divorce rape was more than worth it, and I'm glad I got it over with sooner than later.
n0c0ntr0l 9y ago
Touche.
I may be a young un, but I would say that she's going to know eventually. Give it a few more years (till like 12-14) and I doubt your kid would choose to live with your wife over you.
Dunno its just every time you write about her, I feel like you are living with one of Satans Angels.
brotherjustincrowe 9y ago
That last bit, wow. No time wasted at all derailing a thread about father-son bonding, then accusations that the people trying to get it back on track were derailing.
getomc 9y ago
The hivemind has learned to gaslight.
2comment 9y ago
Looks like there needs to be an active r/giterdun without the bullshit.
fondmammeries 9y ago
/r/giterdun actually exists. Subbed. Nothing there yet, but I'll visit again soon... busy getting shit done.
a-orzie 9y ago
Isn't archive.today suspect? I heard they were taking down archived stuff from pressure by certain unintelligent groups
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chillmonkey88 9y ago
You haven't taught your son the patriarchy secrets yet in bonding time?
VarsitySlutTeamCpt 9y ago
Dont know why women push men for girls to do men shit. Hey how bout the mothers teach their girls these man related excercises hmmm? Its not like they are going to end up in that field.
rokr1292 9y ago
Console Peasants, amirite? /s
I love/hate seeing feminazis show up in random subreddits. sometimes its interesting to see, sometimes its downright infuriating.
That is a really nice desk, too.
Cyralea 9y ago
It's almost a surety, given enough time. Women love to invade male spaces and demand that it change to suit their needs.
It's a big reason why hostile language isn't frowned upon here. Good filtering tool.
watersign 9y ago
Reading this shit and seeing how women act in real life just makes me unmotivated. I am a quasi-MGTOW these days because most women are so fucking stupid and solisptic, it's not even funny, it's just aggrevating. They cannot be trusted, are psychopathic in nature and on top if it, mostly useless. It's so rare to find a girl who is well balanced and halfway smart..I keep thinking I need to go to europe and meet some sophisticated women but Im not sure if that's the answer.
The fact that being around a large percentage of women today is a liability is pretty fucking sad.
The Red Pill.
gprime312 9y ago
Jerk off to tranny porn until you can go full gay. Trust me, gay guys have way more fun.
Rathadin 9y ago
I wish all these feministas would quit their jobs then, and go start working in the construction field.
Reminds me of that huge jobs project feminists groups killed, then re-routed the funds to female-friendly jobs, mostly nursing, of course.
Two things make it hilariously shitty:
Hilarious how feminists will take such a ridiculously short-sighted view, and screw over the very women they're trying to help.
You can read about it here: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.asp#
SKapper 9y ago
I recently did a parenting course - don't laugh, I learnt shit.
Anyway, the conversations with the course instructor was that the powers that be are done with shitty parenting. Cool. She also otherwise implied that single mothers are the best parents at producing the worst children.
I did this course off my own back (family court case coming up) and like the anger management course I did, I was told I don't need to be there.
Essentially I believe the tide is turning for feminism in my country (Australia). It'll be slow, and most likely underhanded but I believe the government wants to quit pouring money into social security while its producing more dependent citizens.
Most of what was taught at this course was RP values, to great degree. But, I did learn to be a little more human.
11411181 9y ago
The current government's heavy hitter being appointed to the Social Services portfolio means it might be coming sooner rather than later if they manage to fix their issues with implementation of a sound concept.
As polarizing as the Liberal Party, they cop a LOT of undeserved hate and policies with proper sensible implementation will see Labour/Greens swinging voters hang themselves on rhetoric.
Cutting down on the eligibility of people for Youth Allowance/Newstart Allowance will invariably pop the stupid dream bubble of coasting along at a Bachelor of Artstendance until you can find a minimum wage job and never pay back student loans. Which is why Pyne's reforms to university education are rubbish - they don't correct the source of the problem.
sillymanilly 9y ago
It is amazing the hatred these woman feel towards men. People like that get what they deserve one way or another. I assure you it is not just men they despise but themselves and each other as well. I couldn't imagine going through life like that.
JayViceroy 9y ago
Just look at the females at any reddit meetup worldwide. We have absolutely nothing to worry about.
CrimsonDeep 9y ago
That sums up just about all SJWs and MRAs to me. (At least MRAs are more tolerable)
Hypothetical analogy :
If I was blind and got sold a bag of salt being told it was fertilizer I'd be angry. My garden would be ruined.
But because I'm blind I'd likely go back to the store and ask for a refund or an exchange thinking that people make mistakes and who would treat a blond person with such cruelty ???? Then, I'd get sold another bag if salt again, even though I dug up another 12 feet of rows to make another garden...
This process would continue over and over until I hate everyone and everything.
These women and men are like the blind gardener ,naive and hopeful about making something useful in life only to see it turn to shit, they go back to the place they learned only to pick up the same unworking tactics that are only designed to enslave us while puppet masters who helped instrument feminism into our middle and lower class society sit back laughing creating their schemes for WWIII (Saudi Arabian oil sale deflation anyone ?????)
These men and women are just blind gardeners toiling about life getting sold salt for their gardens while the store owner (puppet masters)is laughing his ass off getting rich off these gullible bastards.
So glad I took my red pill.
Pilga 9y ago
Man... that's a good reminder for me. I try very hard not to be bitter and hate women, and there are many I don't. But the average women I've never met, I just instantly hate her for going through life on easy mode. For having relationships or sex thrown at her with no effort.
That's not productive, and you're right, it does leave me hating myself too.
TreePlusTree 9y ago
Easy mode for now, bro. When you're like 40ish, shits gonna be flipped hard. Don't hate em now, that'll just lead to you feeling bad for them later. Pity them now, that way you can revel in how horribly they wasted what little value they had when they hit the wall.
RaTz_IdrA 9y ago
"You spend the first half of your life chasing after girls and the other half running away from them"
federalfarmer7 9y ago
Attacking even the suggestion of masculinity has become a reflex for these people. Disgusting.
trpSenator 9y ago
Seriously.... I swear these people are so damn bizzare. I suspect a lot of these people going on and on against his "man lessons" are the super feminized, weak guys, who also want to reset the standards, because they are little wimps themselves.
WTF is wrong with fostering masculinity and male behaviors? Even DYI is trying to discourage these boys from ever being attractive to girls. Well most girls, because Reddit is notorious for always having the one exceptional snowflake who is likely chubby and not cute who also loves to chime in and say, "Well, I'm not like that!!"
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Cyralea 9y ago
Depends on the geographical demographics (in Toronto you can't throw a rock without hitting a feminist), but generally speaking you're only looking at a specific subset of women here on reddit. You're going to get the fat, sloven dye-haired hambeast tumblrinas more often than not. These are the tech-types that are drawn to a site like reddit. They're not what the average woman is like at all.
chillmonkey88 9y ago
This shit a million times... when I got mobile data two years ago and reading more and more on here and other sites... I was mr. Feminism=cancer... and would read all the stupid bs from both feminist hate sties and pro feminist sitess and would always watch out irl for this cancer wave I kept reading about...
Then came to realize that the web in general is full of these people (both genders and haters of the idea of genders regardless what they are) and they don't come out in the daytime, thank god... every woman I know is normal (in terms of being a socially normal woman) and men are too (in terms of not being ultra liberal male feminist... and a socially normal man).
Remember people on here and any other message board media type site like tumblr, 4chan, reddit, facebook ect(FB has turned into this unfortunately) will be the creepy misfit Internet weirdo and pushes for androgynous subjects and feel > real.
Don't take those sjw type comments in that thread too seriously is what I'm trying to say... op is on point with narcissism... it almost sounds like they feel threatened as a parent to that dad so they jump in with their stories of how they do it better... but whatever back rl.
watersign 9y ago
Damn dude. I feel this way too about reddit and it's one of the main reasons why I don't tell people in real life I use reddit because the people I know in real life who use it are fucking losers, for the most part. Not all, but many.
jonewman 9y ago
Exactly. Reddit isn't real life. Reddit is lame as shit and people who aren't lame as shit have better things to do.
Unless you're learning something valuable or producing valuable content, reddit is a waste of time.
SWABteam 9y ago
It's like anything that the masses vote on. The loudest stupidist fucks are the ones that rise to the top of reddit/politics. normal people don't post they just lurk.
MagnanimousGenius 9y ago
I've never heard of these accusations outside of redpill Could you please provide examples of this being the general consensus? Not an affront
DuskVision 9y ago
Tumblrette found out I was on reddit, said something along the lines of hoping I wasn't a red piller and site shaming the whole community as misogynistic and proceeded to spend the next year trying to persuade me to be feminist. The mention of reddit pushed me from longtime acquaintance to sexist asshole.
She was my Lab Partner for the year of course, ironically she brought me here.
Classic case of no bad PR.
MagnanimousGenius 9y ago
She unwittingly did society a favour
DuskVision 9y ago
[-Insert Stereotypical joke on how women can only unwittingly do society favors-]!
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bluedrygrass 9y ago
I have the same doubts. To me, reddit is exactly the opposite of this, the average redditor is pretty much a sjw loser and a white knight. Except for few ostracized subreddits.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
Women say and do some pretty idiotic shit. And kept unchecked by reputation/what those around them think of them and in the anonymity of the internet they'll say some pretty fucking retarded shit and air out some real deep-seated hatred. In a way it's more honest. Women who are man haters in the real world like the hood rat ghetto female american stereotype WHO NOBODY likes will say it directly and obnoxiously, but most women passively hate on men by talking about how men are responsible for all their problems. Placing all blame squarely on men and just never having a positive thing to say about them. I mean for all the shit I give women I can still say good things about women. But then that's because I'm blessed with the faculty of reason. Anyhow, I digress.
The common woman is funny as fuck. She is mad that men aren't manly anymore, but she's also mad about the idea that men would try to "control her" or "think they know better" but at the end of the day, decision making and discipline are all part of being manly. You know, in Patrice's crude terms that's what he said: the male of the species always dominates and the bitch has to submit that's the natural order. Now it's on the man to prove he is strong enough to lead and the woman will test, but once authentic dominance is ascertained the woman must submit, if she doesn't shit doesn't work out, the relationship falls apart and that's one of the major problems with the women of today. They don't realise they are lucky to get commitment and have to work for it. Instead they feel entitled to it and blame anybody but themselves when they can't secure a happy relationship.
Most women today think they can cherry pick the parts of manliness they enjoy (him taking responsibility/making tough decisions/providing) and drop the parts they don't (he having more power than her, putting her in line when she's being a neurotic emotional idiot) but that's not how it works. You don't get to cherry pick masculinity, you either get the full package in a man or you get nothing. IMO, this is just fucking common proof your average woman is an irrational idiot who lacks the depth of perception to flesh out these psychological distinctions and instead will continue to wail like an infant hoping a captain-save-a-hoe will come along and fix all her problems. The high SMV knight in shining armour or mr.perfect that no woman ever fucking encountered, yet is such a popular cultural meme it has it's own mythology in girl world. The fabled Christian Grey strong and powerful enough to do what she wants on his own terms but sensitive enough not to exude the "uglier parts of masculinity." That shit doesn't exist, but women are fucking deluded for the most part.
beerthroway 9y ago
We could put it to them that this is like us asking them to speak only when spoken to, blowjobs on command, every meal will be cooked and served ON TIME, and she will never show herself without makeup.
Where's MY Ms. Right? (Ms. because no way in hell would the ideal life for a man include marriage. Not even 1.0. Why would a man's ideal be commitment to only one pussy?)
clam61 9y ago
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colombianguy 9y ago
It's the disingenuousness of feminists that annoys me most. Personally, I would be okay with some more equality of opportunity for both genders. But, as you said, often they want only the "perks" of being a man along with the privileges of being a woman without the negative consequences of either. In other words, what they want isn't really "equality" but supremacy.
aguy01 9y ago
I too wish men could receive the amount of privilege a woman does.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
And he hits it in the back of the net! They'll always protest the contrary for the sake of appearances, but anyone who isn't an idiot knows better. Women couldn't get their cake and eat it too saying "we want to lord over men and make them an inferior class of citizen!" so instead, with the laws favouring them, and the lower requirements for educational and career success they keep up the pretence "we just want to be equal to men!"
IMO, feminists are supremacist narcissists suffering from an inferiority complex. They hate men because they wish they were men (ironically due to feminism's demonisation of natural femininity) and there is no amount of legislation that can account for such mental sickness.
colombianguy 9y ago
It's the irony of ironies that the worst misogynists of the world aren't actually men, as so many SJWs like to bray and bleat--it's Feminists themselves.
Cyralea 9y ago
No one furthers the idea that women are incapable children more than Feminists. Note how nearly every campaign is designed in such a way to get men to do something for them.
It genuinely amuses me.
trpSenator 9y ago
Personally, I follow #GamerGate because it's such a brilliant example of everything wacky with the SJW types. It perfectly highlights just about EVERYTHING we talk about that's toxic with feminism.
Basically women came into a predominantly male space (a space they aren't even interested in to begin with, but just wanted to get into it because it was mostly men).
Then they get treated just like equals. If you've ever played games online when you were younger, or even seen some YouTube videos, you quickly learn that people love fucking with each other. They'll find anything they can to sling shit at you, especially if you are a person that stands out for whatever reason.
Responses usually go two ways. Either the receiver has fun with it, amplifies, and everyone just keeps escalating going as overboard as possible just for shits and humor. Then occasionally you get the sensitive defensive type that gets upset, which just fuels the fire of the shit talking because it's even funnier now that someone is taking it so serious.
This behavior within the digital realms is as old as the internet. It has nothing at all to do with gender, and guys definitely get it all the time. And so did women, but those types understood the social game.
Then came along little Polly Princes SJW, and started seeing this behavior, and women were ALSO getting hit as well. They didn't see that this was universal, and everyone was getting it equally. No, instead, they saw it as a direct attack on women. To them, people were HARASSING women online. That they were being attacked just for being women. That men didn't like them there. That it was rough and scary.
They think it's all about them. they don't even see that it happens to everyone, all they know is that is happens to them, so it must all be about them. That they are for some reason targeted. They fail to see that the "harassment" goes across gender boarders to everyone. But they aren't out there trying to stop the harassment culture in games and the internet. No, they only see the shit they get. And they are trying to stop the shit their gender is getting.
They completely fail to see the solipsism in their thinking. They think it's all about them.
I wouldn't consider feminist narcissists in the traditional psychopathy sense. However, I would say they all do have significant inferiority complexes. Most of them, if not all, have lead of a life of being behind the pack, so to speak. For whatever reasons, they probably faced multiple social challenges and an inability to adapt growing up. So now as they get older with direct experience of seeing how some people are better than them, either in sexuality, beauty, fitness, wealth, or whatever the fuck else, they feel inferior.
So they are hell bent on redefining the playing field in such a way (social marxism) that they are no longer failures/inferiors. So they project to the world that it's not THEIR fault men don't like because they are fat, or they can't get a job because they have a shitty degree, but it's SOCIETIES fault. Instead of being a failure who needs to recondition themselves, they are instead a poor victim of something outside of their control.
This all helps them cope and deal with their inferiority. And at the end of the day, no matter how much they kick and scream, they know it. Hence the reason they are so damn obsessed and hell bent on making their delusion of reality real. The same way the ex-gay Christian will spend his entire life trying to lobby against gays, claim it's all really just a choice, and then we all find out he's secretly been visiting the sauna late at night.
Think about it, feminists are the same way. They HATE men. They think men are destroying them, oppressing them, and so on... It's not THEIR fault, it's man's fault! Men are the enemy. But in reality, I think what they really, really, really want... Is to be treated like Jenny from highschool who was head cheerleader who got all the benefits of being a quality women. But they know they can't have that, so they have to destroy that.
I can go on a whole other tangent about this line alone. I mean, literally pages. But all I really have to say about this, is what the fuck is their end game here. If women really started becoming just like men. And there were no "men activities" or "women activities" and it was all just "people activities" why the fuck would I be attracted to women. If these women were just like men, the only difference they'd offer is a pussy and some tits. That's it. Men don't want that... Well, not the straight ones at least. At the end of the day, like I said earlier, they are hell bent on destroying the masculine/feminine duality, because they are terrible and fulfilling their role within the duality.
colombianguy 9y ago
The question "What do women want?" gets asked a lot, as if it were somehow mysterious.
The answer is really quite simple: it's to be beautiful. That's it. It's to be beautiful with all the privilege and power that comes with it.
Now, many women will hear that and roundly deny it. But deep in their beings they know that it's true. If one ignores (most of) what they say and instead pays attention to what they do, one will begin to see that many of their behaviors ultimately stem from and revolve around this very fundamental desire.
87GNX 9y ago
Yeah, a more feminine woman... it's amazing what that does to you.
DRMMR76 9y ago
This is very very common in the military, law enforcement, fire fighting, etc. Any job that is predominantly male, and double if it's a job where you routinely have to put you life in another person's hands and be willing to have them place theirs in yours. Since the first tribes of men went out hunting, men have bonded through hardship by roughhousing, joking, playing pranks, telling lewd jokes, stories of sexual conquest, and when necessary, harsh truths and criticism of performance. Go to any barracks of any military throughout history from the Greeks and Romans to the US Military of only a few decades ago and you will see men blowing off steam by joking around, talking about sex, sparring, and jokingly insulting each other.
Then women played the "we just want to be treated as equals too" card and got let in. But they didn't want to join the group as it already was. They didn't want to become a member of the brotherhood that has lasted through the millennia. They wanted to change it. And they have. Now playing the wrong music on your phone while cleaning your rifle is enough to warrant disciplinary action if a female hears it and complains to command. Stories about old girlfriends or nights at the bar? Gone. Joking around and using humor or false insults to manhood to get a soldier to toughen up and get the job done? Gone. Critiquing another man's job performance in realistic tough words so he gets the picture and stops fucking up and risking others lives? Gone. All replaced with quarterly mandatory sexual harassment training, backstabbing, and constantly looking over your shoulder out of fear a joke, prank, or story will get you in serious trouble.
And it's not even all of that stuff that's under attack. Women in the military cannot even handle legitimate job performance criticism from their own superiors. Tell a male soldier he was slow reloading his crew served weapon and he'll work to fix it. Tell it to a female, and she'll say you singled her out because she's a woman. Tell a male soldier he needs to stop screwing around and watch his sector and he'll realize he might get someone killed if he doesn't. Tell it to a female, and you'll get called into the Commander's officer a few days later for sexual harassment and creating a "hostile work environment".
Women were born with the pussy pass. They have lived their entire lives with a built in girl-bonus where their actions don't really have consequences, everyone is taught to mind what they say to and around them, everything is made easier, shorter, lighter, milder, and softer for them. When they enter any place where that isn't the case, and especially in places where it can't be the case or people die, it's like a bucket of ice water to the face during a hot shower. They have no idea how to react. So they default to their natural responses: blame, obfuscate, avoid responsibility, and attack others.
It is already a done deal in the military. It's close to being that way in law enforcement and other first responder jobs, and they're trying to do it to other historically male areas such as gaming and science. They have no idea how to live in a real world where they don't get a bonus/handicap just for being female. So when they do, they must change it.
colombianguy 9y ago
Spot on, mate. You said what I had wanted to say except with more eloquence and better examples than I could have given.
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Noy to mention their ranks involve con-artist, dog molesters, and actual pedo's. Yet they still defend each other and act like GG is the bad guys in this.
trpSenator 9y ago
Well every organization is going to include weirdos. anti-GG is no exception to that. And I'd say many of the gaming feminists are con-artists in the fact that they are extremely intellectually dishonest and manipulative for exposure and money... But dog molesters and pedos? I dunno about that.
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FinnianWhitefir 9y ago
What I tried explaining to someone is that people threaten political people all the time, we view them as wackos, and we should find them and lock them up. But a handful of video game guys do the same to women, and it's a huge issue, they represent normal video gamers, and we should change the whole industry.
I also have a guy friend who is on the other side of this, and it's shocking when you really understand his view. A woman having sex of her own volition is so negative and so shocking that you have to hide it. He thinks no one should ever talk about what happened and that the guy is a super scumbag for even mentioning those private things. While people can claim we're disrespectful to women, it's far worse to basically be saying "A woman having sex is so bad that we should never talk about it" or "We can't talk about it because she's now bad". She's an adult, she chose to have sex, she knew what she was doing, and she can deal with the consequences. The men on that side are treating them like children and treating women who have sex as a terrible thing.
bluedrygrass 9y ago
Your post is good in general, except for that irrational part. It just sounds like a pretest to deliver a jab to this made-up enemy wich is Chrisitanity (much like masculinity) for no apparent reason.
While various studies from completely agnostic scinetists have shown homosexuality is not, indeed, genetical dictated, more than it is to have a propension to alcoholism.
trpSenator 9y ago
I'm not doing a random jab at religion:
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/thomasalberts/former_ex_gay_christian_ministry_leader_marries_his_partner
I'm saying that the people that are so vehemently against homosexuality tend also to be homosexual themselves. The reason they fight so hard against it, is because they themselves are gay, and want to create a illusion that they aren't really gay. Pedos do the same. How many times have you heard of a politician that's crazy strong against pedophiles, only to find out he's into kids too.
But this is off topic, I was just trying to make an example. But if you're trying to say homosexuality is a choice, you're out of your damn mind. Who would "choose" to be gay? Gays literally have the same brain as the opposite gender. Numbers of studies show this. It's not genetic, it's biological. For instance, you can get lesbian mice by stressing out the mother, thus introducing tons of hormones including testosterone, then the female mice come out with male-like brains.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
I wouldn't look into it too much. From what I can see, it's just a crude example. He's trying to say people hate on what they love or are to hide the fact they love it/or are it to gain acceptance from a wider group. As for the whole Christian thing, I imagine it's the whole "God hates fags thing!" The hypothetical guy is Christian but also gay, so pretends he is straight so his religious community continues to accept him. People can be very quick/hypersensitive over religious things, particularly the devout. But I do not believe its necessary here.
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Kill_Your_Ego 9y ago
Do you really want a woman to come save you from a fire or get into a fight trying to restrain a violent criminal? Women are not suited for these tasks. The parents in that post are doing their children well by teaching them to excel at what they are naturally gifted towards.
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TestosteroneFilled 9y ago
^Underrated comment. Laughed my fuckin ass off
bangbangahah 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1nO_whoB-E
Good laughs
Algermas 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20SrfEtLDZY
Muh Patriarchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1D3N8jtNIs
Feel the oppression.
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esco_ 9y ago
women in the police force are more useful in some situations than a man
For example, it may be easier for a woman to calm down a big, angry guy who is about to wreck shit than it is for a man
Since im being downvoted, ill add some more examples.
1) can search females without hassle of sexual assault accusations
2) may be more natural at questioning young children (more empathetic, more naturally inclined to be be a carer than a man)
3) May be more comfortable questioning female sexual assault victims, who may have a pavlovian fear response to a burly man
4) May be useful in domestic violence situations especially dealing with females
LuvBeer 9y ago
In Vienna I noticed foot patrols of two police officers, often one male and one female. I felt sorry for the males who not only were the only ones who could handle shit if a situation called for use of force, but also had to listen to their partner talk all day long.
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What you're talking about used to be called "Police Matrons".
Note the modifier used to distinguish them from real cops.
Overkillengine 9y ago
Or searching female suspects.
But not useful enough to warrant a lower standard of performance.
jm51 9y ago
About 20 years ago, there was a huge guy here that was unstoppable in bar fights and he had a lot of bar fights. He once flattened 6 male police officers.
The way the police learned to deal with him was to send in a female officer. She would act bossy and he'd quiet down and do what she said.
esco_ 9y ago
Big brutish guys often still have the mentallity that you "dont hit a female"
It's conditioned from a young age
MagnanimousGenius 9y ago
It'd personally be more agitating, if it were me in that situation
user_none 9y ago
Agreed. I've been in the situation where I'm talking with police due to some royally fucked up cheating spouse b.s. and I can tell you the try hard attitude of a woman would have only made me more pissed off. Talking with a male police officer had more of a sense of two bros talking.
esco_ 9y ago
well, can you then picture the opposite scenario of a female being more comfortable talking to a female officer?
Rpalt 9y ago
This is one that I'll back feminism on, if a chick is able to drag my 100kgs out of a fire, sure. It should be outcomes based and if they're able to meet the same standards then feel free.
Lowering of standards should never be even thought about.
Cyralea 9y ago
Feminism doesn't demand equality of opportunity, they want equality of outcome. Even if for every 100 men only 1 woman could pass the test requirements they still demand that the hiring be 50/50 for gender.
Gimprome 9y ago
My grandma has always said the same thing. She wants someone who actually can carry her. A regular sized woman cannot do that, but if 300 lbs olga from Russia wants to, she aint gonna say no.
Kill_Your_Ego 9y ago
No woman can carry your ass out of a fire the way a man can. Period.
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Rpalt 9y ago
Neither can a 5'8 100lb man. I'm saying anyone who can meet the physical standards should be able to do it
Overkillengine 9y ago
Which is why the standards should not be sexist by giving women a lower one to meet.
I don't care if the ones that can perform as well as men get into the professions- it's the ones that can't and then whine about inequality that need to fuck themselves with a rusty dildo.
flyingwolf 9y ago
This is why I am proud of my beloved Corps.
They let women in, no problem, we are all inclusive they say. But no, we won't lower the standards for you. You have to be able to do the same shit men do, want to be an officer, you're going through the same shit and having tits isn't going to help you.
Rpalt 9y ago
Which is my initial point, if they can reach the standards, then good for them. Anyone who can't has no business trying to drag people out of fires for a living.
boxofcookies101 9y ago
Bruh I think the women bodybuilders would like a word with you haha. But the average woman never. One that's damn dedicated. Probably.
Kolbykilla 9y ago
Genetically women are at a disadvantage period as far as strength comes. The very best male will always beat the very best female at that. Hell the top 25-50 strongest men are probably stronger than the best female, idk who knows it probably is more.
aguy01 9y ago
There are thousands of men that can beat female lifting records. The female unassisted bench press record is 402 lbs, the mens is 715 lbs...
Kolbykilla 9y ago
Yeah that's what I figured. I guess I gave women too much credit... Can't beat genetics!
aguy01 9y ago
Train smart for a year and you will break all their records.
Cgn38 9y ago
More like two weeks. College athlete girlfriend (non steroid) worked out three times a week from the age of 8. As a full ride college sprinter she benched, wait for it.
125lbs... she could bench her weight and that was about it.
Kolbykilla 9y ago
Well tbh sprinters aren't known for their strength but I understand.
LuvBeer 9y ago
There's also the German guy who had a few beers and smokes before going on to beat both Venus and Serena Williams
Gimprome 9y ago
You forget to mention the crucial point of his ranking, correct me if im wrong, he wasn't even top 100.
LuvBeer 9y ago
Yes, he was ranked 203. The Williams sisters claimed they could beat any man outside the top 200.
bluedrygrass 9y ago
And little time after that match his ranking dropped outside of top 300.
Opioidus 9y ago
It's not just the weightlifting, it's also putting your life, the most precious thing we have, on the line for saving someone you have zero genetic kinship with. Women are physically incapable of sympathizing with men who aren't their Alpha fux, let alone sacrificing themselves to save some man who is by definition projecting weakness and is in need of their help to be rescued.
HS-Thompson 9y ago
This is ridiculous.
Welcome to the red pill, where we do science and stuff. There's no need for this sort of feels based interpretation of gender issues, that's what women do.
ImPinkSnail 9y ago
This is completely bullshit.There is a difference between being a pussy and needing people with special equipment to save you.
If was something as pathetic as getting stuck in a tree, yeah that's Beta as fuck. But when it is something as serious as being trapped in a car after an accident, that doesn't make the victim a Beta. You can't really blanket the idea that people in need of help are showing weakness.
Opioidus 9y ago
The difference is the same as a woman gaining weight due to her thyroid condition or from over-eating, just because the cause is different doesn't make the reality of the situation any different. Men find her repulsive. It doesn't matter if you're dying from the most horrible and painful disease in all of existence, if you cry, your wife of 50 years will be physically sickened by your behavior, she can't help it, it's not a conscious process.
PS. You don't have to really be weak for women to hate you, you just have to appear weak, even for a moment.
rife_omeqa 9y ago
You're making a distinction that women cannot.
It's a logical and well understood point by men, not women.
lycanthr0py 9y ago
If you think a woman can't empathize with anyone but AF you are fucking retarded. How about their kids? How exactly do you think sappy movies sell?
rife_omeqa 9y ago
Sappy movies sell only when the female audience can place themselves into the role of the female lead.
The most popular and culturally loved female characters are always the average ones. The women who offer nothing, are nothing, do nothing but expect the very best in all things.
Look at one of the most popular books in recent memory; 50 Shades of Grey. It's been criticized heavily and yet it sells off the shelves and by the millions because the female lead is a formless, malleable, average is it gets woman who wins the heart of 10/10 alpha.
It lets any woman watching think that it can happen to them. Tingles and thus popularity.
Women can only feel if they can see themselves in the situation. The only exception to this is their children.
TheDon835 9y ago
Ok, I mean, honestly is this true? Can a woman not feel empathy for someone going to die? I don't want to sound beta or whatever, but this just doesn't add up in my head. Please, help me understand.
aguy01 9y ago
Nah it's a gross over-exaggeration. Women aren't typically as empathetic as men, but they aren't soul eating robots like some of the new people here make them out to be.
TheDon835 9y ago
Honestly I really liked the sub, I recently turned 18 and this place has taught me some great lessons. Lately I feel like it's turned into screaming awalt louder than the guy next to you, or guys humble bragging about the plates.
Opioidus 9y ago
I don't know, I just haven't seen it happen. If you are the alpha male of a woman's life you have no idea what they tell you, how vicious they really are. I've been in the trust zone of some women, and the things I've heard have not been pleasant. I've heard women make fun of their husbands penises, I've seen women sharing the most intimate secrets of their exes, and I've seen women talk about their friends as if they were sworn enemies after a friendly evening together.
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RcskaSedd 9y ago
After reading some of the comments and have been lurker here on reddit for 4 years, i can confidently say that people who give advise on reddit to other people dont know what they are talking about. For example back in my gamer youth days the PC game /r/Dayz (zombie game) had the creator of dayz on there, people would give him back and suggest ideas. at first it was harmless "just fix this please cause its buggy", then they became more demanding and demanding, they were happy with the product but they weren't fullfilled. This again happened i think in /r/socialskills where a user created a dating website for introverts, everyone started trying to control his product. "WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD PUT IN EXTROVERT IN THERE CAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE LEAVING US OUT BRO!" the user simply stated "hey this is my idea, i'll do it the way i want to." of course reddit wasn't pleased. This also happen to be one of those situation where reddit isn;t pleased because it doesn't meet their fulfillment, instead they're going to tell you how to live your life like if they lived it for you.
My arguement leads me to this
getomc 9y ago
So, basically, reddit is a bitch.
[deleted] 9y ago
sad He is critiqued yet no one rages when Ben Affleck says girls are smarter and his son is dumber.
in fact he is celebrated as a goof father.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/50470-jennifer-garner-ben-affleck-know-how-important-feminism-is-thanks-to-their-two-little-girls http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/10/09/ben-affleck-on-boys-versus-girls-were-just-not-as-smart/
Western world is basically Good father = demean your sex.
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Most of the feminazi bullshit is getting downvoted hard right now. There is still hope.
Zanford 9y ago
SJWs have been invading the DIY subreddit, calling it sexist etc. b/c most of the posts and replies are by men.
Well, duh. Men DO and BUILD a lot more than women do. They are more likely to have hobbies, especially challenging, constructive ones.
But in the SJWs' mind, there's a patriarchical conspiracy suppressing the occasional female cross-stitch and quilting post from getting equal upvotes in r/DIY.
JohnPeel 9y ago
If you looked up the dictionary definition for "daddy issues" you'd find a copy of that thread attached to it.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
I just assume every woman I meet has daddy issues. It's so common you're more shocked to find one who doesn't than one who does. Special thanks to the women of the world who didn't abort their ONS sperm and raised a kid on welfare. You're a fucking
credittax liability to us all.Opioidus 9y ago
Fathers have been pushed out, collective communities like TRP are now playing the role of your father.