OP, you already verified checking out the male competition that it did not exist. You worry about getting noticed. You sir have to make "YOUR OWN LUCK."

Read the sidebar. Again and again, and again. SWALLOW the pill. In other words, go from expelling red pill doctrine, to internalizing and accepting it. Stop sharing and talking. Now start being and doing.

It takes time. 4-6-8 1 year, 3 years...dude, it takes time. You are not a marathoner if you complete 1 marathon. Story for you. A bloke I knew came up to me all critical and questioned "Why do I have to do another marathon to really matter, why isn't 1 enough...." And I answered "because 1 isn't enough."

The thing is you have to earn and grow to become accepted. And your body will prove to you that this is true. The next marathon run after staying in shape is incredibly easier, and faster. But tough things have no mercy and they will bring you down if you fuck around with them.

Reality check. You really give a fuck about fat chicks looking for Alpha on online dating sites? Get the fuck to the gym. Get outside. You are Christian. Christ spent a considerable amount of time alone outside in the desert/wilderness. Lucifer, his tempter and foe were not so kind either as the story goes. Christ was rather alpha out there, I'd wager to guess. No online dating worries for him, far as I can tell. He had your ass to worry about...and mine too if the story is true. Seems he was owning his shit so to speak. And boy did he, if the story holds true. But that's for future times.

Sorry, but your post was an incoherent mess.

The reason online dating is popular and becoming the norm is because of rejection.

Getting rejected online is much easier on the person and their ego than getting rejected in person.

People don't want to admit it, but it's the truth.

This has nothing to do with religion. Everything you complained about is on every dating site no matter if it's targeted at a particular demographic (religion, race, age, etc.) or wide open.

I could see being more frustrated than usual due to limiting yourself to one demographic such as this. Smaller pool. But I doubt it would make much difference if you widened your pool.

Don't you guys just meet girls at church?

online dating is hard as a fellow christian ...online dating a christian girl sounds is hard mode . I met a chick from OKCupid late last year and managed to have sex with her on our second date I believe .... .she was insane ...thanks to the post today I see had borderline disorder and I understand why I got a mountain of texts at 3 in the morning telling me how bad she felt and what a sinner she was . Which is understandable I corrupted the poor thing .... it was the second time where she promised me she could handle it and sex was ok and blah blah blah where she also texted me at 3 in the morning after that I decided this wouldn't work .

Honestly I would try to see if there are local church singles event near you and try your luck their honestly . Meetup.com is great for that stuff .

As a fellow christian man I feel your pain . if normal chicks have high barriers to entry a christian chick is going to have added Religious SMV you'll have to compete with online , it's probably better to just impress her in person in that case .

Hot girls don't really need online dating. They have reality working in their favor. Can't go 10 feet without being given a dick to accept or deny. Why's she going to waste hours a day online being presented more dicks?

If she is, then there's a real reason for it. Anyone with half a brain can think of several.

I have noticed Christian girls are usually heavier because of the "God will provide" message. "Honey, he will love you for who you are. It is vain and a sin to worry about looks." So they let themselves go or don't even try to present themselves in the best light.

This statement is so true that it hurts. In my circle of Christian friends, I hear more and more, "I am God's perfect design and the right man will accept me for how I am." They use it as a crutch for eating fast food, being lazy and not giving two fucks about their looks.

Sadly, this physical trait often carries to their emotional side. I hear more and more often things like, "I'm a damaged flower that needs serious emotional reinforcement before I will even consider even having coffee with a man."

The Guys : Hopped over to the men bc why not check out the competition? (Honestly surprised they would let me look at the males...) Old Fat * BETA

This is pretty much the bulk of church men. They tend to be cowards, shy and callow. Just being outgoing and straight forward sets you apart from everyone.

I read this one article a few months or years back that said that they had gathered all the statistical data on 3 popular websites like match and pof, and they found startling data. The sample data was ALL profiles with pictures in it.

One, we can assume that the "average" person is roughly on the 50% mark. That means HB5 is average, HB3 is below average, and HB7 is above average.

The survey found that men gauged women's pictures on average higher than the average. That means men said 50% of all female pictures were actually HB7 or higher. This is stretching the norm, but it also means that women are experts in selfies and hiding imperfections.

The survey also found that women gauged men's pictures VERY POORLY. They found that of all the men's pictures, that women thought only 20% of all men were HB6 or higher.

High standards and low quality offerings is right. There are obviously unicorns, but they usually get taken quickly.

same religion bro fist bump

in my experience, the church and Christian areas are the absolute worst places to find morally-inclined women..

not that it bothers me, as I have no intention of getting married. I just feel like it was worth mentioning.

Online dating is a buyers market per definition. Girls no matter what SMV they have choose among suitors. This can be enhanced by photoshop much like a bank customers enhance his earning potential and credit score. Thats why here on TRP online dating is considered a fun thing with low input ie abs pic, traveling pic and no persona description.

Real life is a sellers market. High SMV men sell toxic papers ie pump n dump to low SMV girls. High SMV girls might get real derivatives and bulk stock ie commitment.

I think they just say that to filter out the bottom % of men because they read that and just dont message her.

Listen bro, as long as you're limited to Christian women, you're fucked.

AWALT.

With that said, ever notice that the hot Christian girls are married to Christian alphas? And that the majority of the single girls at your church are plain or unattractive?

Your best bet is to become alpha as fuck and pray to God that a hot single girl walks in and you can be the best alpha. Really, it's not much of a solution.

How is your own SMV? Any areas you think you could improve upon? Have you uploaded more pics that meet that site's requirements, so you're not Mr. Headshot Only on there?

Do you live in a large or small dating market? Have you used other dating sites? With this info we can be more specific.

I use POF, and find that I can book up my calendar and need to hide my profile in 4-10 days, with half a dozen solid prospects to churn through.

A majority of women on that site identify as Christian; some that's all they write about. I remember one profile where the only nouns used were: I, me, church, bible, books.

ETA: I write unusually long profiles, but I make sure they're readable, interesting, and polarizing. It really connects with those who are a good match for what I'm looking for (LTR that I can converse with too) and preselects the hell out of those I actually go out with. I also get messages like "I don't think we're a match but your profile was really interesting!"

What exactly the fuck are you complaining about? You realize online dating is a numbers game for even the smoothest mother fucker, right?

 

Any girl worth having can get all she needs just walking down the street.

Tinder and other apps just amplify that and fuel the Cock Carousel™.

The only justice is that the Cock Carousel™ suddenly ends at the Wall (30) and those women drop to near zero value.

So for attractive women they have about a decade on top... then it's over.

 

As for religion...

I'd suggest you learn the basic hebrew alphabet and pick up a little about the Rubik's Cube which is the true knowledge of Natural Laws and the divine.

The Nicene Creed projects a snapshot of the Rubik's Cube.

The Red Pill is more like ancient hebrew.

Frame and Game are more real that the "derivative religions".

Mark Passio - Natural Law Seminar - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57UBuxnicOA

Yod - Hei - Vav - Hei : "Yahweh" (God) means:

Masculine male has sex with female to create life.

...is there any wonder why it was forbidden to say in church?

 

Look for postmodern Christian churches in your area, especially any emergent ones. I used to go to an outdoor church group that was 95% fit folks and a good variety of singles and married folks. Very postmodern, very warm community and no weird gossip about intermember dating. Some very lovely red pill type women, too. Corporate worship was mostly a few folks with guitars and tambourines sitting on a fallen log singing David Crowder songs. Tons of fun, too.

Can confirm that online dating is getting harder and harder. I consider myself within the top 20% (6'1, athletic body, former fashion model, now an attorney with an annual income above 100k) but even I'm having to put a lot of work in on tinder to get those HB8+ girls to grab a drink with me. Most of the time, they're downright stupid and uneducated and have nothing to offer except for their pussy.

It is vain and a sin to worry about looks." So they let themselves go or don't even try to present themselves in the best light.

You know what else is a sin ? Gluttony.

The best-quality women don't mess with online dating at all. If you never meet women offline, they don't "exist."

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I went to this awesome christian church. There were lots of dancing and music and a lot of young single women, in fact, so many available young girls, they would sometimes sacrifice one or two on the alter! It was such a progressive church that even sex before marriage was not frowned upon but actually rather rampant and there were more than one orgy if I remember. Although, I think they were low on funds to fix the place up because the cross was broken and hanging upside-down....ton's of great people though.

Christian guys are inherently beta.

Well, monotheistic religion is all about submission!

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Christian. I used to be a preacher, very short lived endeavor.

There are beta Christians. Then there's Teen Mania, the middle of the woods alpha fucks academy for Christian soldiers, a place where kids chant "I BEAT MY BODY AND MAKE IT MY SLAVE" and are told at their graduation ceremony in euphemistic terms that the moment they step into the real world everyone is going to try to fuck them. "So get married as soon as you can."

But yeah most social networking and dating sites are just attention farms for women. Men should only spend time there if they're high value answer low investment.

There is no excuse for being fat if you are religious. The body is a temple, and these fatties are letting Satan desecrate their temple. The good lord helps those who help themselves.

The scriptures have quotes that will help you shame those fatties.

I hate these posts. You're going to have a hard time dating if you haven't worked your way in to the top 20%. Get that? You have work.

Once you're in the 20%, you'll figure out who all these women rejecting you are having sex with. That's right. The top 20%.

I used to read Boundless back in my beta days and take it all as gospel. I would try to apply it on Christian women and fail. Even for strong Christian women, it doesn't matter if you are using a so called "Godly" approach to women and dating, if you are beta, you will not be successful. Period. I falsely convinced myself if I just did everything "biblically" when it came to women, it would work out because "I am doing it God's way", and it never worked out, because I was a beta and women rejected me.

I am still a strong Christian but Boundless is a bunch of garbage. My Church is full of beta bucks settling for post wall women and lots of "born again virgin" post wall single mothers. You can just tell a vast majority of the couples at my church have dead bedrooms. Betas galore. I don't want to boast but by me simply dressing well, grooming well, and having good posture, I double the alpha quotient of the sanctuary simply by walking in. That's how beta the men are - lots of neckbeards, triggered SJW glasses, long, ungroomed hair, fat/flabby or really skinny(no good bodies), slouching posture.

The church I go to is 90% Adults 18-29. Not many hot women there. I'd say there is one HB8-9, a couple of HB6-7s, and the rest are all unattractive women. It's a wasteland. So I think your dating woes on Christian Mingle are simply the way it is for Christian dating in general. Most hot women end up being sluts because they are unable to resist Chad no matter how much they go to church growing up and values they have, so they stop going in their prime years and return once they hit the wall and want to repent.

I live in Seattle and I think ugly women on dating sites is the standard for all of them. I go on Tinder every now and then and it's not uncommon for me to swipe right 200-300 times in a row. Slim pickings. Lot's of ugly.