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- Hide Preview | 90 Comments | submitted 3 months ago by omegajelly200 [Post Locked]

I am living in Malaysia, and I just have to let this off my chest of how bluepill male-shaming is very, very real here.

An instant example that I can think of is how every time a male expresses a desire to seek a mate, he is immediately branded as perverted and desperate. Worse still, he is immediately accused of only wanting to get involved in something to seek girls - and even the seeking girl part is instantaneously substituted with soliciting for sex.

Me: Hey there. I would like to join this cycling club.

Them: Oh cool. What made you interested in joining?

Me: Well, I have always liked to cycle, and by joining this club I am hoping to make new friends who share the same interests, and maybe if possible find a girl who likes to cycle too!

Them: GTFO.

Me: ...what?

Them: Fix your attitude. It seems to me that you just want to get laid.

Me: ...you didn't hear the part about me saying I love cycling and want to make friends, didn't you?

Them: PERVERT!!!! DESPERATE!! LOLOLOLOLOL LOOK AT HIM SHAME HIM SHAME HIM!!!

In a blue pill hell, it is sinful and disgusting for male to even show sexual desire. I'm not even talking for just straight men. The same goes for bisexual and gay men too.

If you glance at a woman and comment on how pretty or sexy she is, you are a pervert. You are not actually doing anything to her. You are not even touching her.

Make a move and you are desperate. Say you are single and you are desperate. Say if you want to exchange numbers to a girl and you are desperate. Say hi and good morning even with NO intention of hitting on a girl and you are desperate. Hell, indicating in your social medial profile that you are single and looking makes you desperate.

The D-word is thrown everywhere, shaming, shaming, shaming, and shaming men. How dare they let their emotions and desire show!

What is the blue-pill solution then instead of men honestly showing their desire to find a mate? Easy, they say "Be yourself and let things happen." Yes, because the blue-pill logic is things happen without a catalyst. They just simply happen because...reasons!

The blue-pill ideal is to have a man just pretend to not be attracted to a girl, not state that he wants to get acquainted with her intimately if possible, and just orbit her endlessly until stuff just happens out of pure chance and luck.

I can vividly recall that one time I had in a relationship with a most wonderful girl in my life. Breaking taboos, making bluepilers cry in their sleep and plot to murder me, I met this girl in a bus, and pushed myself to say hi to her.

"OMG SPEAKING TO A TOTAL STRANGER TO LOOK FOR A GIRLFRIEND! CREEPY! DESPERATE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" Bluepillers would say. But as I did it with full honesty, confidence and innocence behind my actions she returned my greet and we went off nicely to a lively conversation.

Then shortly when I needed to get off the bus I honestly said to her something along the lines of "By the way, you probably know this, but I am attracted to you. If possible could we share numbers so we can get to know each other, hang out and go out together?" Not even a maybe in my words. I want her to either be interested or not. And she actually said yes!

So we went on a short-term relationship, short-term unfortunately since she was actually a college student on a '2+1' program for studying overseas, but it was absolutely beautiful. Away from the bluepill bullshit of acting dishonest, timid and passive with a girl, I got myself one who was just like me as well, straightforward with me, confident in the way she carried herself and assertive in her own way as well.

She never tried to shame me in any way, saying that I am desperate or needy or rude in wanting to say or do anything. I still remember her saying something like "If you wanna do something, you just do it. Don't give a damn about what other people say about you." She embraces and encourages masculinity in a man. What a rare catch.

Imagine if I had followed bluepill advice on that fateful day, chatting with her but just pretending that I just wanted to chat to kill time. Or worse, just keeping my mouth shut out of fear of being labeled a pervert. I wouldn't have ever gotten myself into a relationship with a wonderful catch of a girl. It was brief but worth all the time it lasted.

Anyhow, this is my first post here in this sub. Hello everybody.

[-] mrpthrowa 229 Points 3 months ago

Lose the angry phase dude. You give off a real needy and hungry vibe - this is what people call creepy.

Also, don't go telling people you're looking for a girl... that's just aspie level talk. Read the 48 laws.

Holy shit I read some more.

Make a move and you are desperate. Say you are single and you are desperate. Say if you want to exchange numbers to a girl and you are desperate. Say hi and good morning even with NO intention of hitting on a girl and you are desperate. Hell, indicating in your social medial profile that you are single and looking makes you desperate.

You don't say you are single.

You don't go on your social media profile to say you're looking for a mate.

You don't say stuff like...

By the way, you probably know this, but I am attracted to you

Definitely some self introspection is required.

You're not red pill. You are blue pill pretending. And people smell that.

[-] GayLubeOil 3 Points 3 months ago

You are speaking to a Malaysian. He's of a difference race, culture and religion then you. Yet somehow you know what values are acceptable for him and what arnt.

This is peak anglocentrism.

[-] mrpthrowa 33 Points 3 months ago

Eh dude not are you being sarcastically hypocritical? How did you figure I'm anglocentric? I'm neither Malayan nor Western, though I'm much closer to his culture and background than you'd think.

[-] Schrodingersdawg 23 Points 3 months ago

Honestly part of it reads like something was lost in translation - maybe in Malaysian it doesn’t come off as cringey but when translated to English the phrasing becomes the formal mess we see here?

[-] BobLordOfTheCows 30 Points 3 months ago

Did you just offhand tell him to check his privilege?

[-] GayLubeOil 26 Points 3 months ago

Malaysia is a different world. They're asian Muslims. Western logic doesn't apply there

[-] valourtore 3 Points 3 months ago

I’m Malaysian and we ain’t all Asian Muslims. I admit Muslims are resistant to the effects of Hypergamy, but like the rest of the world many M’sians live in urban centres and are subject to the growing influence of the “progressive West”.

That said, head out to the countryside and it really is a different world, where tradition, family, community and game itself is a more respectful version. It’s like the pre-feminism days I read of, where hypergamy remains subtle.

[-] ogkushinjapan 9 Points 3 months ago

Totally agree. Although AWALT, as I am a Singaporean raised in Malaysia, the cultural landscape is simply different here.

The dominant ideology is collectivism where Malaysians share everything with their peers to bond together rather than being able to keep things to themselves like the individualistic west.

Pros: Malaysians are less superficial and selfish.

Cons: Easily swayed by the media that is blue pill dominant and say unnecessary things too much like the “relationship status” or “interest in girl”.

[-] pk3348 3 Points 3 months ago

thank you. Cultures are different, and people act uniquely to their surroundings. ffs some fucks don't have any sympathy.

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

I know what you are getting at however I have always been most successful when my behavior didn't match the prevalent values of western civilization.

[-] NextBad 2 Points 3 months ago

He got a woman, He never express anger, just trying to understand objective reality, the red pill is quite man hating group, if a man has any issue with a woman we hone in on what he did wrong unless a women has clearly broken a social rule set forth by feminist.

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> She never tried to shame me in any way, saying that I am desperate or needy or rude in wanting to say or do anything. I still remember her saying something like "If you wanna do something, you just do it. Don't give a damn about what other people say about you." She embraces and encourages masculinity in a man. What a rare catch.

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He has succeed , so what he is saying is right.

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> You're not red pill. You are blue pill pretending. And people smell that.

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But he got that girl, how is this blue pill, it seem you are defining blue pill as any conflict with women but red pill as success, this is more hateful male shaming

[-] PopularBug5 -45 Point 3 months ago

Oh, now I am angry, needy, hungry, creepy for wanting what I want! So negative! Much fail! Keep the negative adjectives coming!

Sorry bub, you are the one being a blue pretender if you feel you still need to appease a bluepiller in spite of claiming to be a red pill.

You don't say stuff like...

Still living by their rules. Blue piller.

[-] mrpthrowa 48 Points 3 months ago

I see. Why did you come here looking for advice malay sherlock? fuck off and learn some manners first you blathering twiddling spastic waste of good oxygen.

Also, don't post with alt account, you're truly an idiot.

[-] paul_ernst 1 Point 3 months ago

Although I agree, the whole "fuck off" part wasn't really necessary.

[-] Two_kids_in_a_coat 26 Points 3 months ago

What the hell are you talking about? Sidebar fool.

[-] _Legendairy_ 15 Points 3 months ago

Why are you on a alt lol. Anyways, I’m sure that he meant that “[If you’re trying to swallow the red pill] you don’t say stuff like...”

That is not remotely blue pill, you’re just angry.

[-] paul_ernst 4 Points 3 months ago

So you might have noticed that you've received some hate over this comment. This is mainly because respectfulness is a vital part of this community. Not respecting them will get you banned.

As the sidebar states:

Do not insult or harass members. Debate the ideas, not the person. If you have a point to be made, make it with well reasoned rationale. Calling members "beta" or "bitch" brings the level of discourse down to preadolescent schoolyard bickering.

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[-] bipbophil 2 Points 3 months ago

Why are people saying "bub" now ?

Everytime someone says it im like wow that dudes a fag

[-] thesquarerootof1 2 Points 3 months ago

This sub's purpose is to make you a better man and for people to tell you what you don't want to hear. If you are looking for people to agree with you 100% of the time, you are at the wrong place.

maybe if possible find a girl who likes to cycle too!

This right here is way too direct. Don't say things like this next time. Imply it, but don't be so obvious about it.

[-] keeponlifting 97 Points 3 months ago

So what if they do think that?

Are you lifting, reading books, working on improving yourself every day?

If so, then why would you give a fuck what someone else thinks of you? Adopt the DGAF mentality and you'd do well to ignore the average frustrated chump. They're living with a scarcity mentality, and you have to understand that in order to avoid it.

Remember, in social situations you're there to be confident and have fun, not to pray on women. That attitude comes off as needy and people notice it.

[-] PIQAS 6 Points 3 months ago

they're living with a scarcity mentality, and you have to understand that in order to avoid it.

i really like this, I always was a bit annoyed that I can understand the mentality of many tards around my country but they cannot understand mine. was wondering what silver lining is to all that, and as years passed I realize that there is indeed, and it's what you pointed, understanding for knowing what to avoid. yes I'm a bit vague but I still make sense I believe. it's a real learned skill to know how to stay away from the people you don't want to get mixed with and create your own bubble. after all, world is full of bubbles, whether you choose to be randomly part of anyone's else or have your own, is up to you.

[-] TruthSeekingPerson 64 Points 3 months ago

I thought this was going to be about how blue pillers (and even red pillers) shame single men for not chasing pussy like they do. (In part because men want the status of having a relationship and in part because they've been brainwashed to think they need one.) Then I read the post and it was about a blue-piller who was desperately seeking a relationship to complete him.

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Here is my advice to you:

(1) Stop being so honest. It's weak. You are baring your soul to compete strangers and these people are the last people you should be baring your soul to. I went through a long phase where I did this, I was suffering so much I had to spill my guts to other people. It always made it worse. I was seeking external validation and I needed internal validation first. Rather than seek validation from other people work on loving and accepting yourself.

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I'm not saying to lie people, that will hurt you in other ways. Honesty is a virtue. I'm saying keep your thoughts, wishes, and desires to yourself as you work on accomplishing them. Also, make sure you're honest to yourself if you lie to yourself you will only suffer.

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(2) Women do not like clingy men. You will attract more women if you are indifferent to them. That's not blue pill that is red pill. Do what YOU want to do with your life and more women will see your utility.

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(3) Do not feel like you have to make a move. Inexperienced men think that experienced men are aggressive and persistent. Perhaps but experienced men are adept at reading body language and also are indifferent to rejection so they can interact and then abort without any damage. Really you should ignore women unless one shows they are interested in you. EDIT: The time it worked for you you were not giving off a clingy vibe, you picked a woman you vibed with and talked to her and it worked. But that's on a bus where there's no risk--if it doesn't work then you will never see her again. It's tougher to do that in a cycling club where you have to interact with her if she says no.

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(4) If you do one thing it should be to stop thinking you need a relationship to validate your life. I suspect your mother was narcissistic (like mine was) and left you with a gaping hole that needed to be filled. Here's the thing: no woman can complete you. We fulfill ourselves by what we do. There is no perfect woman for us who will love us for who we are. (That woman is supposed to be our mother to an extent but even mothers largely love us because they see themselves in us.) Women only want us for what we can do for them. So work on accepting and improving yourself and go from there. Good luck.

[-] nzjbruh 6 Points 3 months ago

This is such a well written post. Numbered for an easy read too.

(3) was great. You'll find a lot more success with cold approach if you open based on indicators. If a woman makes eye contact with you and exchanges a smile that's the body language equivalent of "Hello". It's important to make these encounters genuine to add to their entire "it just happened" fantasy.

Also want to add on that when you do talk to her, she won't make it hard for you if she's down.

[-] SteroidsFreak 3 Points 3 months ago

^ well said. You can get laid by not telling the whole world you're trying to get laid. That's an experience you learn, adapt and overcome cause many dudes don't have the same mentality as you do. If anything, OP should of joined the club, kept his desires to himself and once he's in, get laid. Simple. Dude made it more complicating by coming here and complaining about it. No need for that, it happened it happened, move on and learn from that experience.

[-] Tact1cal_Pandaz 3 Points 3 months ago

Thank you dude, that last passage hit me hard.

[-] NextBad 2 Points 3 months ago

> So we went on a short-term relationship, short-term unfortunately since she was actually a college student on a '2+1' program for studying overseas, but it was absolutely beautiful. Away from the bluepill bullshit of acting dishonest, timid and passive with a girl, I got myself one who was just like me as well, straightforward with me, confident in the way she carried herself and assertive in her own way as well.

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Dude he succeeded, people can't even understand reality, you went on the attack when he is growing and having success , he is not clingy, he is honing his technique, share his failures and successes.

[-] odaklanan_insan 2 Points 3 months ago

I really needed to hear this man.. Thanks.

[-] rexdor2009 27 Points 3 months ago

Shaming low SMV men is a subconscious evolutionary female strategy to eliminate them from the dating pool. They discourage low SMV males from hitting on women so women will not have their time wasted with determining the SMV of an already confirmed low SMV male, and have a better chance of finding a high SMV male.

This is a natural and evolutionary phenomenon. Discourage all men from hitting on girls. Then the ones that still hit on them regardless of being told not to... obviously have balls and confidence and are the ones who they want hitting on them anyways.

Men could do the same thing by shaming fat women. If a fat girl likes you on Tinder or starts a conversation with you, just act disgusted and be mean to her. Shame her for even thinking she had a chance of getting with you. Then eventually she'll stop trying to bat out of her league, and will stop wasting guys' time.

[-] cilantromakesmepuke 5 Points 3 months ago

Then eventually she'll stop trying to bat out of her league, and will stop wasting guys' time.

Or they become sour grapes SJW feminists.

[-] Casd12 3 Points 3 months ago

This. Op increase your smv

[-] Scorchyy 3 Points 3 months ago

Not true, any fat woman has more options than the averages guy so it’s not like this is going to work

[-] NextBad 1 Point 3 months ago

> So we went on a short-term relationship, short-term unfortunately since she was actually a college student on a '2+1' program for studying overseas, but it was absolutely beautiful. Away from the bluepill bullshit of acting dishonest, timid and passive with a girl, I got myself one who was just like me as well, straightforward with me, confident in the way she carried herself and assertive in her own way as well.

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Or just move on, stop trying to be amazing, if a women rejects you, just move on, and learn game, like he did, he had a amazing short term relationship and was happy, sometimes even Alpha man get disrespected,

[-] CensorThis111 20 Points 3 months ago

People getting enraged over their TRP dogma, but no one is talking about the real red pill.

This dude is caught in a pit that was setup for him to fall into. Social programming is real. A globalist agenda to create dissonance, exclusion, and depopulation among the peasantry is real. It is definitely getting more extreme and there is definitely a reason.

Everyone wants to break down the fine details on how to be the master manipulator of the manipulated? Cool, that's fine. But wake the fuck up, take a real red pill, and realize there is a very specific reason why you are even playing this game to begin with.

Obsessing about pussy is just another distraction for you peasants to get fucked up on.

"enjoy the decline" is some submissive, hypocritical bullshit for cucks that want an easy way to slip on a noose.

[-] CountVP 13 Points 3 months ago

I believe this is because Malásia is a mayority Muslim country. Come to brazil. This is THE country to be a pervert

[-] exit_sandman 2 Points 3 months ago

Yeah, this honestly sounds more like the whole thing being the result of regressive (people wanting sex have to be shamed) instead of progressive attitudes (men are bad and only want to take advantage of those poor yet simultaneously super-independent and empowered women).

[-] CountVP 2 Points 3 months ago

Yeah. Here in brazil we got sjws but they are in no way a sizable portion of the population. Imagine then in an Asian country. I believe there are less than 100 sjws in the whole of Malásia.

[-] EPArt 10 Points 3 months ago

Commentators here are saying if people saying that must mean its true blah blah blah. It very well could be but regardless people really are out to attack and accuse men of anything. I literally just read an article about a man UK based being arrested for doing pick up vids. Seeing comments calling him manipulative/predatory, pervert, any 30+ is loser chasing 18 years, woman standing up to men by getting him arrested, he is most definitely a rapist e.t.c.

Literally a arrest-able offensive now talking to women. If its manipulative if must of worked can only think he's in trouble cause he was succeeding. Im always seeing a new accusation against a male who is successful. Honestly male shaming is really a thing it probably will be made illegal to approach a woman at some point some where in the world. I need to get it in while I can.

[-] TheImpossible1 3 Points 3 months ago

I read he was arrested for videoing other people's picking up.

The UK continues to fall to the matriarchy if you're right.

[-] EPArt 1 Point 3 months ago

Honestly that if true is even worse, and then to highlight my point further here comes the recent gillette man shaming advert on youtube.

[-] TheImpossible1 1 Point 3 months ago

I found a little more detail about that, that kind of shows why it exists.

  • UK based advertising agency (cucked to shit female supremacist country)
  • Woman in charge with previous works being even worse than this.

  • Partnered with unknown organizations (anyone checked for strange ties on these)

Formatting is terrible...

[-] rpsheepdog 8 Points 3 months ago

Ill preface this with saying I'm not familiar with Maylasia or its social dynamic, so I'm answering as if it were the states, also, I don't know you.

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But I would say maybe you need to have some self introspection, I tend to go by this rule:

"If everywhere you go and meet people they are assholes, maybe you're the actual asshole" as in

if everywhere you go people think you act desperate, well you're probably putting that off

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Biggest improvement I think you can make is be less forward with your intentions in a social setting, by no means is that chat to chat, still keep pushing, but less actual verbalization

[-] satlinrabbow 4 Points 3 months ago

I disagree

1)I read his post

2)He was able to AT LEAST get a gf

3)that quote is fucking stupid and outdated, there's no reason to bring stupid quotes like that into any discussion, especially if you were paying attention to what he said (you weren't)

To the OP: Good job for getting a gf, although you need to watch out for one-itis

Also, Make sure you are lifting, period.

Now. going to an activity club and meeting new friends including women is just fine, a lot of women go to these for that reason, as a man if you relax and have fun, opportunities will open.

that being said:

OP, you are a man. if no one wants you in their club (it seems the shaming was to just discourage as many men from the group as possible so that they can hve more chances at bloopering a woman, basically they want to increase their chances of "lucking up on some pussy")

Make your own club. meetup dot c.om is perfect for this. make your club 10x better than the one you wanted to join. not only will you be in control, you will be seen as the leader which = contextual alpha status. Think of cool places to go, takes lots of great high quality pictures, think of cool activities to do. maybe even a group dinner once a month.

dont worry about being shamed and being called desperate, just ignore, or agree and amplify lol.

I do agree with the sentiment that you never give out your intentions if you're looking for a woman, hell, even that pick up line to your gf was a no go, it worked for you so maybe you're a lot more attractive than you think.

Anyway, don't worry about getting "shamed" you're not going to change them, it's easier, and better to change yourself, make yourself the best version of your self. Start physically, then add professional improvements (better job or career etc etc) and eventually game (do day game, activity club game, whatever) and ignore the haters.

Imagine yourself as an unpolished jade, the more you polish it, the more it shines. The more it shines, the more good things come to you. Keep lifting, stay lean (or get lean if you're fat) get good nice fitting clothes, fix your posture, maybe even bang some tinder chicks (once your body is in the shape it needs to be in.) and it'll get easier and easier.

Men, Alphas lead their own wolf pack. so do this. Make your own club, put work into it, If you've been lifting and eating right for a long enough period of time, then you'll do fine.

Don't make a post about getting shamed or complaining about bloopers again. It's a waste of your time. Use that time to get to work on yourself .

[-] NextBad 1 Point 3 months ago

But OP got a girlfriend not everyone was a asshole, he just has to realize socially men are held to different standards, The red pill has too much blue pill advice

[-] rpsheepdog 1 Point 3 months ago

True, I think I might have read the tone differently than was intended by OP

[-] omegajelly200 -12 Point 3 months ago

everywhere you go people think you act desperate, well you're probably putting that off

And I love it. Bring it on. I love it when people say I am desperate!

People should stop getting shamed by the calling desperate. Being desperate is a GOOD thing. Desperate means you want something badly. Desperation leads to a call to action.

If you're desperate for water, what are you going to do? Put only 5 percent effort because you don't want to make yourself APPEAR you don't need it? Or be honest to yourself that you really need water and try your very best at finding it?

Were the successful entrepreneurs not desperate in succeeding? Do you think they broke their backs working super hard in making it because they just kinda want to succeed? You think success just dropped on their laps as they passively lived their lives - or as the bluepillers call it, "Just live their lives?"

I am desperate to remain fit even as I am in my 30s. That is why I ran out and jogged just this evening when it was raining. I am determined not to skip even one session except under truly dire circumstances, like an injury.

If you want to find a girl, just say and be true to yourself and everyone that you want to find a girl. Live the goal, breathe the goal, sleep the goal, and eat the goal. Think of the things you need to do or places you need to go to make it happen. TAKE OWNERSHIP and TAKE ACTION!

[-] rpsheepdog 14 Points 3 months ago

desperate: feeling, showing, or involving a hopeless sense that a situation is so bad as to be impossible to deal wit

Motivated: very enthusiastic or determined because you really want to do something

I think you have your words wrong here

women don't want to be with a man who gives off the vibe he is not capable of being with other women

[-] TruthSeekingPerson 4 Points 3 months ago

Dude why are you torturing yourself. You do not want people calling you desperate, unless you really have no interest in finding a woman and are trying to sabotage any chance you have of getting one. That kind of negative interaction takes a toll on you.

You may need to withdraw from chasing women. Re-invent yourself. That's one of the 48 Rules of Power. Stop caring what other people think.

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[-] TheeEmperor 3 Points 3 months ago

The antidote to the anger phase and prevent all of this is to adhere to the 38th Law of Power and to spin more plates. The more plates you spin, the less desperate you become. And you are desperate. Nobody gains any real instant power from being red pill aware. Everything your saying indicates that you are not your mental point of origin yet.

[-] NextBad 1 Point 3 months ago

You are doing fine OP, you aren't perfect but you know that, you will learn new things as you continue. The red pill has been man hating, remember there are no perfect people certainly not the red pill, most men hate you and you're success. Keep up the good work and don't give up,

[-] ogkushinjapan 6 Points 3 months ago

I disagree with the first parts, beta and needy game do work in Singapore n Malaysia to get relationships compared to West. My friends and I used to “confess” to our crushes and still end up getting dates and relationships. The real pain is when we moved overseas for school.

The reason why most Malaysian and Singaporean dudes don’t do well in dating compared to western men is due to the thirst and always saying too much instead doing things.

Like u mentioned dropping lines such as “maybe I’ll find a girl here” or others would say if “only I could a girlfriend”. Every mgag or msian FB page relationship post is about wishing you had a girlfriend. This is a desperate and low abundance mentality.

You guys also place women too high up on a pedestal. After I spent time in the US and went back to KL, these same princesses suck me off in Play or Zouk toilets. Girls on tinder are way easier and more straightforward than American girls.

After improving my looks and game, compliments to ASEAN girls become compliments rather than creepy lines. Same goes towards any other girls from other places.

In the end AWALT. These girls aren’t “better quality” not worst. Work out, eat less mamak and be more socially active.

Pm me n let’s have a chat!

[-] valourtore 2 Points 3 months ago

This is true.

As a Malaysian myself, seeing OP’s post, his apparent actions and reaction reminds me of the old beta blue days of mine. Back then, I was so thirsty for pussy that I ruined great friendships for a 4/10 girl.

If you are weak and low status and reveal this in both your words and actions, society will shame you and want to destroy you. Whether you are in Malaysia is irrelevant because speaking from experience even in Australia (been there many years) this is true.

I came to the realisation then that the world isn’t out to kill you, but it really won’t matter if you die in a ditch somewhere to anyone but yourself (and perhaps your family and a few close friends - even then, life moves on).

The only way is to have the strength to bear the shame and admit that you fucked up here and slowly but surely earn their respect by working fucking hard on yourself. Climb the social ladder and never stop for anything or anyone else.

[-] TitusBjarni 5 Points 3 months ago

The culture is just a shit test.

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[-] magicmetagic 5 Points 3 months ago

You seem to be a creep, dont be a creep and get laid

[-] 10211799107 4 Points 3 months ago

Never overtly make your intentions known. Don't verbalize your need for anything.

[-] monsieurhire2 4 Points 3 months ago

The only thing worse than this sort of thing is letting your frame collapse and giving in to it. Quite simply, just don't believe it. It's all a big fat lie.

But why all the man-shaming around sexuality? Consider the source. It's usually older people. What are they worried about? A young man knocking up a woman and having children that he can't support, sticking them with the bill. Or getting an STD. Or creating some sort of liability that THEY have to pay for. It happens ALL the time.

Just imagine if your parents ENCOURAGED you to do nothing but self-improve to the end of simply smashing as many THOTS as possible. Just imagine them paying for your gym membership, buying you expensive clothes, a car, hiring a personal trainer to give you the most chiseled physique. Oh wait, this is what WEALTHY parents do for their male children. They also line up jobs for them, through their social networks. But wait, your parents aren't rich? Uh oh, I guess that means that they will probably have a scarcity mentality. They view themselves as lucky to even have a job. Therefore they worry that YOU will never get one. They'll have to support you, or declare you a loss and kick you out on the street. The last thing they want, after raising you for 18-20 years, is to have raise your children for you. This is why civilization disposed of young men through the mechanism of wars. If they didn't, why, they young men might just take over and there would be chaos.

You have to EARN it. UNLESS you are born into a wealthy family. The shaming is just psychological warfare to keep you from seeking a mate. Would you give two shits if you were rich? You would have women BEGGING to marry you. Parents would be throwing their daughters at you. I have experienced this first-hand. The problems you are describing are wealth and social status related. If you were a rich man, the would shame you for NOT getting married, for NOT pursuing women. Why, you could even gaslight them by pretending to be rich and watching them flip the script.

So, anyway, all the shaming is just another shit-test. They are worried that guys are just going to knock up women willy-nilly with no thought to supporting them. Imagine yourself as a 50 year old guy with a daughter who is in her teen-aged years. Would YOU want her having unprotected sex with some unemployed teen-aged male who doesn't even have the discipline to lift weights, let alone get a job? If she gets knocked up, you can forget about easily marrying her off to the highest status duded available. Why, you could be stuck with her for another 10-20 years as she fumbles around trying to support her illegitimate child.

I could go on and on about this subject.

[-] thesquarerootof1 4 Points 3 months ago

I just want to see if I'm right, are you Indian by any chance ?

What I've noticed is that Indians are absolutely horrible with women and act really clingy. That is just my observation...

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[-] MattyAnon 3 Points 3 months ago

Them: Fix your attitude. It seems to me that you just want to get laid.

This sort of male shaming is directed at unattractive men. Attractive men don't suffer this sort of shaming as badly. And who the fuck cares anyway.

But obviously: don't be overt in your intentions. Why would you even suggest you're into cycling to meet girls? That's uncalibrated and unnecessary. Everyone socialises to meet friends and partners. But if you have to say it, something is seriously wrong with you.

[-] ex_addict_bro 2 Points 3 months ago

Read 48 laws as people told you already.

[-] ogkushinjapan 2 Points 3 months ago

Take an air Asia flight to Bali or Vietnam n slay tons of Aussie/European tourist chicks. It’s a benefit Malaysians have that we don’t realize.

[-] ArdAtak 2 Points 3 months ago

The 2 mindsets that I find most disturbing are the religious dogma of Islam and the cultural norms of East Asia. And these 2 atrocities blend nicely in Malasia.

[-] F_Dingo 2 Points 3 months ago

Me: Hey there. I would like to join this cycling club.

Them: Oh cool. What made you interested in joining?

Me: Well, I have always liked to cycle, and by joining this club I am hoping to make new friends who share the same interests, and maybe if possible find a girl who likes to cycle too!

Them: GTFO.

Hmm... I wonder why you are getting shamed for looking so desperate??? Are you joining the cycling club because you like cycling or are you joining purely to find girls? This is similar to a guy going to a yoga class at college - are you there because you really like yoga or are you there for all the girls who have nice bodies???

If you are doing the latter, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, never make the REAL reason you go known to people.

[-] CainPrice 2 Points 3 months ago

Attach the same behavior to a gym-hardened body and women won't be able to say bad things about you due to your dick being in the way.

[-] The_Chiselnator 2 Points 3 months ago

Lol. Who cares what fags think. Listen, you screwed up the moment you explained the why. "Because I want to" was enough. You sound like you needed them to help you find a girl. Are you 12?

[-] hearse223 1 Point 3 months ago

Tell others none of what you think and only half of what you know.

[-] NormalAndy 1 Point 3 months ago

FWIW worth I was treated like that too because it was bang on the mark!

[-] RPSilverfox 1 Point 3 months ago

Even in the United States there is a time and place to show sexual interest in women, and picking the wrong time and or place can get you labeled a creep. The gym is one good example. If you’ve been reading here for a while then you know the gym is for working out. Period. It is not a place to go to approach women or try and make friends. Everyone is pretty much in their own zone. The only exception is if you get serious IOIs and are given an invitation to approach, but even then be careful. On the other end end of the spectrum are bars and social settings where approaching is expected. No woman goes to a bar or club and not expect to be hit on. So maybe focus more on places where this is acceptable? And squelch your intentions in places that could get you labeled creepy? Just a thought.

[-] tempolaca 1 Point 3 months ago

Them: Fix your attitude. It seems to me that you just want to get laid.

"No, I also want to punch stupid people in the teeth. Look how quiet it's here now."

[-] DeltaDiezel 1 Point 3 months ago

Me: Well, I have always liked to cycle, and by joining this club I am hoping to make new friends who share the same interests, and maybe if possible find a girl who likes to cycle too!

Not even gonna lie, you do come off as needy and "only wanting a girlfriend", because there's literally no reason to have said that second part about finding a girl in that club.

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I still remember her saying something like "If you wanna do something, you just do it. Don't give a damn about what other people say about you."

Listen to your redpilled ex, it'll get you way further than listening to the bluepill beta rejects who find the very idea of talking to a women perverted because it's not them whose doing it.

[-] Satou4 1 Point 3 months ago

Who cares if you're labeled the pervert? If you're the only pervert then you'll get more attention.

Idgaf what other people say either. I'm more focused on the person I'm talking to. Does she enjoy the time or not? Is she reacting well or not? Do I need to try harder to keep frame or am I doing ok?

[-] Zippy1776 1 Point 3 months ago

This is why I simply don't engage with anyone who demonstrates any level of involvement in the bluepill bullshit and even some on the redpill side. I'd rather NOT have "friends" from the general population and keep saving my money until I can move away from people with these types of personalities. All the posts of people trying to force you into their template on one end or another are all people who don't understand any of it. "That side wants you to go their direction and shame you for not conforming, don't do it! Only go the direction I want you to and shame on you for not going MY direction!" They're exactly the same shitty people on polar opposites of the spectrum. Improve yourself on your terms. When people give their OPINION as advice and expect you to follow it, you can tell they're ones to avoid. If their advice is given through logic without opinion, that may be worth listening to. The way to identify the difference that I learned is to ask yourself if there is any logic in the advice that goes TOWARDS accomplishing the intended task or goal. If the answer is no, that person is nothing more than another NPC on either end of that spectrum. Those kind of people will always only ever destroy and drag you down, regardless of what side they fall on. You'll also never get good quality direction or specific advice from the comments on this web site in regards to intangible pursuits. Things like finances, engineering, mechanics and such are easy to calculate and identify quality information. Things like relationships, emotional anything and intangible pursuits like spirituality are all heavily biased towards whichever side the "popular" core group leans. Sidebar, old wisdom and your own experience as you learn what works for you is the best bet. Take the logical parts of the advice people give, strip out their bias and opinions, then measure your own changes in success as you implement the different mechanics.

[-] OfficerWade 1 Point 3 months ago

First rule of fight club states that you do not talk about it.

[-] Adegoku707 1 Point 3 months ago

You must not be handsome enough. Sorry that happened to you op.

[-] NormalAndy 1 Point 3 months ago

Just finished watching a Swedish comedian who seemed genuinely scared of offending female audience members. Waxed lyrical on sporty men with tight pants of course. I was amazed he missed the opportunity on 40 year old big Jugs in Lycra but there you go.

[-] C2074579 1 Point 3 months ago

Lol Just laugh at their inferiority. Sorry but that's what makes me feel better.

[-] NormalAndy 1 Point 3 months ago

Sounds like a bunch of kids.

But this sub does seem to be about growing up and standing up to the bullshit is a big part of that.

Either that or ask if one would like to step outside for a fucking kicking... :-)

[-] bwizzle91 1 Point 3 months ago

Bro stop wearing your heart on your sleeve. If I were you I'd get out of Malaysia, it's a developing country that keeps falling into Chinese debt traps.

Also life is war. So never let outsiders, or anyone for that matter, know your true intentions. Not unless they prove themselves to be loyal.

So fuck them, why do you care so much about what some randos think? Do you.

[-] DancesWithPugs 1 Point 3 months ago

'Things just happen' is the reality of mediocre romantic comedy movies. I guess it's easier to learn about the world from the TV, than to seek out mentors or start your own projects. Look for real-world success and talk to the people who made it happen.

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OP, my sympathies. I would suggest blazing a trail and maybe talking to some other people that are also frustrated with the social control. When the nags begin shaming and clucking, practice Amused Mastery^(TM) anfd wave it away with a smile. You don't need to take absurd rules seriously just because someone else is emotionally invested.

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No one is going to save you but yourself. Organize a singles dance, on the outskirts of the county line if you're like that town in Footloose..

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[-] antariusz 1 Point 3 months ago

You talk too much, and it comes across in your writing as well.

Stop feeling like you have to explain your actions to other people.

“What made you interested in joining”

“Shrug, just felt like it, you?”

[-] bostezo22 1 Point 3 months ago

Hello man, welcome. We are here for you :)

[-] SemiLoquacious 1 Point 3 months ago

Maybe Malaysia has the right idea.

One of the models of This sub is, you do not orientate your life around women but so many posters here clearly are using this sub as inspiration to reorder everything in their life around women.

I see it in daily life too. Word gets out at a company that a new girl is getting hired in, discussion turns to men asking about if she'll be hot. You have a gathering of guys where 1 girl is there for every 4 men, then the focus of the party turns to girls.

Tell me op, what is male bonding in Malaysia like? The societal function of tabooing desperation is for the encouragement of male bonding. It would be a safe bet to say that men probably stick together there better than they do in the states

[-] AshyLarry27 1 Point 3 months ago

Well, I have always liked to cycle, and by joining this club I am hoping to make new friends who share the same interests, and maybe if possible find a girl who likes to cycle too!

Law 38: "Think as you like, but behave like others"

Don't be so overt on these kinds of things. If you happen to meet a girl in the club you want, you talk to her and get to know her, escalate, ect. Why are you going around making these intentions known?

What was your expected response? "Oh really? Well geee I hope you meet the women of your dreams then! Golly, can I be the best man at the wedding??"

[-] awalt_cupcake 1 Point 3 months ago

Damned if you do

Damned if you don't

[-] SenorSwole 1 Point 3 months ago
  1. Be attractive
  2. Quit giving a fuck (life experience will do this)
[-] bonusfruit 1 Point 3 months ago

The shame only continues in the comments lol. Stoicism is the name of the game on trp. So never indicate that anything gets to you, even genuine injustices to you personally

[-] tchower 1 Point 3 months ago

Just finished reading a public post on Twitter with this thot saying “you guys are gonna have to do better than, you’re pretty, I have middle eastern men writing me poems and promising me their assets!” Lol I’ve also personally experienced girls who have guys sending them messages like this on social media flexing muscles and talking about how much money they make. So basically, don’t reveal too much interest right away to bitches, it comes off as desperate or needy. But then again, I’m from the west and not Malaysia, so don’t be afraid to approach even though there is shame, but keep in mind that girls get hit on by more dudes than you think. That’s just my two cents. There’s even shaming on the other end where guys will call you gay or fag in the west for not approaching enough girls or having a girlfriend, so I’d say just stop giving a fuck.

[-] Jake_le_Dog 0 Points 3 months ago

Please refrain from writing until you've spent at least another month reading from the sidebar.

[-] TheRedPillAccount_ 0 Points 3 months ago

I'm getting the sense that this is a troll. This post should get removed.