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- Hide Preview | 186 Comments | submitted 3 months ago by WarriorMonkMode [Post Locked]

No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.

-Socrates


The language of men has always been a physical one, before words were even a thing. Ultimately, every interaction you have with another male will be dictated by the undertones of physical violence. That's how men have evolved over ten thousand years, and the wiring is still there even in these peaceful times.

Your sexual market value is relative to your competition. Your competition is other men. There are multiple hierarchies at play, but the default hierarchy will always be the one of power.

Power perceived is power achieved.

So when you walk into a room, maneuver yourself to be the most dangerous man in the room.

Being dangerous is not the same as being lethal.

Being dangerous is both the ability to competently assess and navigate a social setting whilst also having the unspoken threat of power in your favor.

Now, I train MMA and although I don't have sheer size on my side, I have athleticism and the undeniable body of a fighter.

In every interaction with another person, there are the undercurrents of danger: I am polite and kind by choice, not by necessity. Which means my interactions with others are genuine and voluntary- not a matter of survival.

Which leads to your choice of environment. Remember, you want to be the most dangerous man in the room, right? That means you don't go walking into a police station to swing your dick around and impose your frame upon the officers inside. Remember, exercise your lethality with competence. Lethality without competence is no danger to anyone when you're out maneuvered. Look only to the King Cobra and the Mongoose. Although the Cobra is lethal by virtue of its venom, it stands no chance against the competence of the Mongoose, who competently out maneuvers the Cobra.

Another example is women. You can train, you can have body armor. You can exercise your second amendment right. You can easily overpower any woman you come across, and yet they are much more dangerous due to the culture.

Figured it out? You guessed it: the beta defense force. The blue pilled boys in blue. One self inflicted wound and one phone call to the police will render you helpless in the face of the Agent Smiths pointing guns at you.

The leads into my next point: a dangerous man always covers his bases, never takes unnecessary risks, and the best battles are the battles you've won before any hand has been raised.

The simple solution to never getting hit by a bullet is to never let your position stray into the range of lethal force.

So this means to always be recording. You're being recorded anyway, knowingly or not, by Big brother. You might as well make sure that the information is easily accessible for your needs, in case the unthinkable happens.

This means to have hidden cameras in your home. This means to always record your calls. This means to have a dash camera. This means to have a hidden body camera.

People will be less inclined to mess with someone who has their bases covered over the person who does not. Bullies and predators prey on the weak due to lack of fear of retaliation.

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare... The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities."

-Sun Tzu.

Having friends matters. Always be expanding your circle and always be bringing in people into your frame. Look for the long term benefits of relationships, man or woman, not just the short term.

  • Befriending law enforcement in your area is definitely a good move if possible.

  • Avoiding areas or crowds, like a group of meat head AMOGs at a bar with your pretty girl, is highly advised.

  • Always carry if possible: Always surround yourself with people with your best interests in mind, if possible: having close friends who are also dangerous becomes a force multiplier. See the police force for a good example of safety in numbers.

  • Always have an out: never corner yourself in an interaction with no exit strategy whether it be with a man or woman.

    "Trust, but verify." Record that girl in the best of times, even if she's showing no red flags at the time. You never know when those messages/footage/recordings will come in handy. This goes for other men too, although usually it means just making sure you have a clear shot at an exit in case things get physical and especially if you're outnumbered.


  • Train yourself up to fight so that you never have to.

    Both men and woman size you up in the first 30 seconds of any interaction. First impressions are important. When a guy looks at you, you want to him to look at you as someone who's confident and demands respect. Remember, power is seized, not given. If you don't have control in the interaction, the other party does. Always be the one holding the reigns.


  • Remove yourself from dangerous situations with no clear benefit at its conclusion.

    It's fine to take risks, but they must be calculated and the payoff needs to justify the danger. This goes back my police station example. Don't walk up to a group of guys just to hit on a girl in the arms of another man, without any IOIs, just to show yourself how alpha you are. Don't bite off more than you can chew. Stick to high success rate moves relative to your position, even if the odds of success itself is low.


  • Cultivate your own power.

It will change you on a metaphysical level. There is a saying here that a woman's kindness isn't genuine because in most cases they're kind as a matter of survival, not kind by choice. A man who is both dangerous and kind is simply exercising his power responsibly. He has the choice of being dangerous, but chooses to be kind and civil. This makes his choice authentic and genuine. He's kind and polite because he has control and is competent, not because he's a weakling who fears the conflict that comes with a high position in the hierarchy. You never want to be finding yourself at the losing end of an argument, asking yourself "if this gets physical, can I even protect my own life?" Desperation is a stinky cologne, especially when you're afraid of getting your ass beat. You want people to take one look at you and say "that's not a guy I want to fuck with under any circumstances." Your aura of danger effectively becomes an invisibility cloak, not to mention the fact that a high position in the power hierarchy will lead to your body rewarding you with 'feel good' hormones, such as serotonin that signal to your lizard brain that you're in a good position in life, which will bleed into your interactions with women.


In closing, being physically fit and also being dangerous leads to sexual success. Having friends at your disposal is a force multiplier. Always cover your ass with documentation, you never know when it will come in handy. The higher you are in the hierarchy, the less often you will be challenged. Power perceived is power achieved. Always be seizing power.

It doesn't matter if you don't want to play the game: if you're in the field you better know how to play and be good at it. If you stand around, you'll get tackled. If you don't want to work hard and take risks, sit on the sidelines while real men play.

[-] [deleted] 212 Points 3 months ago

I appreciate this message but why are these posts always self-jerkoff threads? Maybe it’s just me seeing this but it’s always “anyways I train mma...” type thing

[-] WarriorMonkMode 70 Points 3 months ago

Didn't want anyone thinking I didn't take my own advice. I touched upon it briefly only because it was relevant and for some insight into my own thought process. Wouldn't of included it if I didn't have to.

Just because I train doesn't mean I'm any good, either.

[-] goriladevainilla 61 Points 3 months ago

People that don't train will never understand the importance until they start training. There is nothing as humbling as getting smashed by a 130lbs guy.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 31 Points 3 months ago

Yeah, being competent in self defense exudes a confidence that cannot be effectively faked. In my experience women will begin to qualify themselves instinctually from the get go of any interaction due to the fact that your SMV has surpassed their threshold of sexual fitness.

[-] goriladevainilla 13 Points 3 months ago

You are absolutely right. Sadly, most here will never know what we are talking about because they will never try it or lack the willpower to keep getting smashed day after day. Most come for a week or two then you never see them again. They will instead just call legitimate posts like this "self jerkoff" posts, because they do not know the natural confidence that exudes from having knocked and choked people out. Instead they stick to their fantasy lift weights only world, because they have an idea of what they think they can do that is not based in reality.

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[-] sanos7 1 Point 3 months ago

Why can’t it be both? They both make you more dominant in life and bring you closer to risk and better equiped at handling it. Same would go for dirt bike riding, mountain climbing, shooting, hunting.

You want the skills to kill and the body that maximizes those skills. They stack and multiply.

[-] BlackPillBombings 5 Points 3 months ago

Why cannot it be both? Mostly because there are 24hrs in day not 48hrs and next time some TRPer will add another activity that takes up to 10hrs a week and every "alpha" must do.

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[-] TheStoicCrane 1 Point 3 months ago

Look. It's great being able to choke someone out and being in position where you've could've had your armed snapped by someone less physically dominant. I had a few rolls like this in college. Thing is MMA has absolutely 0 practicality unless you live in a rough region, or go out looking for a fight. Even then the fastests punch is eclipsed by the speed of the slowest bullet.

With lifting there's a practicality about it. For those who know what the hell they're doing it's therapeutic with the benefits of higher testoterone, higher concentration, higher discipline, and a physically imposing presence that may the deter fights that MMA is useful for. Plus well built men automatically acquire the silent respect of both the men and women around them.

If you want people to at least respect the benefits of MMA the least you can do is respect the benefits of wholesome activities like lifting and pick up a book on how to do it better if you feel you're seeing limited results. https://www.amazon.com/Strength-Training-Anatomy-Workout-II/dp/1450419895/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3BIPBQTNZE8JM&keywords=frederic+delavier+strength+training+anatomy&qid=1548049276&sprefix=Frederic+de%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-2

[-] heronmarkedblade1984 10 Points 3 months ago

Worst ass kicking I have ever received was by my Filipino combative instructor. I had 6 inches and 50 pounds on him, and he beat me like my feet had been nailed to the floor. Completely new experience for me.

[-] ghostcel2018 17 Points 3 months ago

Filipinos... The ones especially who spent their formative years in the Philippines... Most likely learned how their blood tastes like as early as age 7 or 8 in a school fight.

On average, the men have about 20 or so fistfights under their belt by the time they turn 15 or 16. Passive men get about 5. And the alpha jerk types who fight you over looking at them the wrong way... Rack up God knows how many fistfights... You get the idea.

And combine that with compulsory military training between the ages of 16-18...

Don't let their small stature and smiley attitude fool you. :)

[-] Andgelyo 6 Points 3 months ago

Can confirm. Dad is a 5’5 Filipino asshole who got into multiple street fights and landed in jail many times both in Philippines and in America. Told me he would threaten to shoot people if they looked at him wrong. Taught me not to take shit from anyone.

[-] MatrixofLe3adership 5 Points 3 months ago

I can't afford "getting smashed" and certainly not any more concussions. I have always been interested in trying BJJ, but contact sports puts me at too much risk.

[-] goriladevainilla 3 Points 3 months ago

I can't afford anymore concussions either brother. Getting smashed is a term they use in bjj for someone dominating you. I would absolutely recommend giviny bjj a go if you are interested.

[-] DrMrJrSr 3 Points 3 months ago

Only you know what risks are worth taking. It's your life homie, don't apologize for it.

[-] th33unsaltednutt 3 Points 3 months ago

I cant relate enough im still a newbie but anyone with experience that weighs less than me wrecks the living shit out if me.

[-] Aestheticcunt1996 7 Points 3 months ago

Are you serious about the „always record your environment“ thing? Sounds like a good way to promote paranoia to me.

[-] BigClitorisDick 7 Points 3 months ago

He is telling you about his personal experience. Maybe you should consider why your perception of this makes you upset. Do you think you are self conscious about your ability to defend yourself?

[-] WarriorMonkMode 17 Points 3 months ago

It's a hard pill to swallow for most men to acknowledge that they're not nearly as capable as they often daydream themselves to be. We all must go through this realization before any real growth can take place in this field.

[-] BigClitorisDick 15 Points 3 months ago

Agreed.

I'm a major advocate of training boxing, kickboxing, and jits. It is equally important as lifting weights for men who believe in TRP ideology.

With regards to frame- strength training makes you look intimidating to others. Knowing how to legitimately defend yourself gives you a golden aura of confidence in a perceived relaxed state that makes you feel intimidating to others.

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[-] BigClitorisDick 3 Points 3 months ago

May be tough to do them all and I don't recommend that.

Start off with one and over time you can dabble in multiple.

Choose one, focus on it for a solid year, then do another. One grappling Wrestling/Jits and one striking Boxing/Muay thai.

Strength train first thing in morning when waking up (5 am) then train martial arts in evening after work is what works for me.

[-] sanos7 2 Points 3 months ago

THIS. I do it the same way. Works perfectly.
Strength: First thing in the morning. 6x/week, 0,5 hour/session.

MMA: In the evenings. 3x/week, 1-2 hours/session.

[-] TheStoicCrane 1 Point 3 months ago

Not as time efficient or practical as lifting. That's the flaw with learning martial arts. No sleight to anyone who enjoys it though.

[-] TheStoicCrane 1 Point 3 months ago

Very few people have that type of time to spare. It's beneficial definitely but it's way less time efficient to master boxing, kickboxing, jits, etc than it is to pump iron and get shredded. Let's be realistic here.

[-] WalterEArmstrong 2 Points 3 months ago

Every guy thinks he's another James Bond.

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[-] RustyGatecrasher 4 Points 3 months ago

“Be the most dangerous man in the room”

“Wear a hidden body camera”

LOLWUT

[-] do_it_or_leave 4 Points 3 months ago

If you mess with someone who is recording he can use the law to his benefit. He doesn't need to fight you, and if you force it you will get your ass handled and without consequences for him.

[-] TheStoicCrane 3 Points 3 months ago

Then why put yourself in position to fight in the first place? Life's no Western movie.

[-] NecessaryPianist 1 Point 3 months ago

Read the post before making comments like these. He says to not intentionally but yiurself in ddangerous situations, but to always have a backup plan.

[-] Sakarabru 69 Points 3 months ago

Martial arts are all well and good, but as you said yourself, nothing teaches like experiance and I believe you can never truly achieve that "aura of danger" if you've never been in a serious brawl. Once you've felt the pumping blood, mouth dry and knees wobbling as your vision narrows and something dark stirrs within, you know. You know you could well have woken up on a fuckin wheelchair the next morning but you didn't and that is something no training can really prepare you for. Don't get me wrong, I love my sessions on the mat, but there's a wild world out there where no rules aply.

[-] Andgelyo 42 Points 3 months ago

This is why the people who have truly experienced street fights and live in dangerous situations are one of the most alpha of all. You can train MMA everyday of your life in a controlled environment but if you face actual danger and freeze, you’re fucked. I would rather have a gangster friend who’s gotten into multiple street fights and kicked ass than a rich suburban twat who just trains MMA as a hobby.

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[-] Andgelyo 10 Points 3 months ago

Well I’m sure as shit not gonna put my trust in someone who’s never fought in real life than someone who’s actually been a gangbanger. You could talk all the shit you want, but if you ain’t about that life, you ain’t about it.

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[-] Andgelyo 10 Points 3 months ago

You could do whatever the fuck you want nigga, you could go join the bloods and crips and gang bang for all I give a shit about. My point still stands, real life experience still trumps a controlled environment.

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[-] Andgelyo 4 Points 3 months ago

Are you mentally challenged? I never said that was the goal, I’m just saying that a experienced street fighter is better than someone who just trains in a controlled environment

[-] Throwaway-242424 22 Points 3 months ago

This is just coping from guys who are low-IQ enough to get into regular street fights but too lazy to properly train.

You'd laugh someone out of the room if they said they would demolish an NBA pro in a game of basketball on the street because they play a lot of pickup games, yet somehow this nonsense gets a pass when it comes to fighting.

[-] j_arbuckle2012 7 Points 3 months ago

Training is training.

I've put many "experienced street fighters" in the hospital because they couldn't properly fight worth a damn.

Don't discount the man who works for his skill. He'll kill you.

[-] Andgelyo 5 Points 3 months ago

Fighting is fighting.

You may be the exception, tough guy. I’m talking about those who have never experienced a real street fight and are psuedo fighters only. All of that training doesn’t mean jack shit if you can’t apply it in real life situations. Also, not all martial arts are equal. You really think karate would help against a bunch of guys trying to jump you than say boxing? There is a certain swagger that people who have been in dangerous situations have.

[-] Innug 2 Points 2 months ago

Are you serious or trolling lol? Take any experienced MMA dude and put him up against a tough gangster or guy from the street and see what happens - someone who trains fighting regularly is gonna destroy him. You may think it's a 'controlled environment' but regardless they spar and they know how to actually fight.

[-] emu_llama 2 Points 2 months ago

Sure but I have been in street fights with someone I knew I could beat. Then I saw his two larger buddies bust out of the pizza place nearby to help.

Ive got 20+ years of wrestling and kickboxing but situational awareness and defusing rather than escalating would have saved me lifelong sinus issues and scars

Training is great but real world experience helps to temper it. The guys who have been in a few fights know you don't get through unscathed. They know how quickly shit can escalate.

Ive had a few fights where I just arm dragged the dude, locked him and taken him down face first holding him there till he submits. The first time it happened I still should have walked away cause I took a right when I went for the arm and I cut up my knees real good on the concrete. It felt great to win but I regretted it when the adrenaline stopped.

It's easier said than done but be prepared for a fight and try to avoid them. Learn social calibration and how to goad someone into a 1 on 1 if they've got a crew (that's what I did when I avoided getting mobbed).

That guy accepted and only because I was able to take him down without hitting him and demonstrate restraint did I not get fucking mobbed.

When you get drunk confrontation over bumping someone's drink Saying 'hey sorry about that man I'm name how about I buy ya beer' with a handshake is often effective enough to defuse things. Especially since if he responds like a brainless ape he looks stupid.

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[-] krakalot 11 Points 3 months ago

this is so dumb and edgy, much like 50% of this post. The whole thing that is being pushed in this thread and these ideas are essentially the Gopnik style of attraction which since I'm from eastern Europe im very familiar with. If you're trying to look like a hard cunt all the time and keep putting yourself in dumb dangerous situations such as streetfights then you're just a dumbass much like most gopniks. Do yourself a favour, get mace and a mobile phone or some running shoes instead of trying to be a wannabe hard man to pickup the lowest quality women attracted to a dude who gets into dumb fights over stupid shit at trashy places.

I guarantee strong mace and a taser will defeat any level of MMA you'll ever do unless you're literally bruce lee.

[-] Throwaway-242424 6 Points 3 months ago

This is just coping from guys who are low-IQ enough to get into regular street fights but too lazy to properly train.

You'd laugh someone out of the room if they said they would demolish an NBA pro in a game of basketball on the street because they play a lot of pickup games, yet somehow this nonsense gets a pass when it comes to fighting.

[-] Throwaway-242424 11 Points 3 months ago

Getting into streetfights to prove how alpha you are is extremely low-IQ behaviour.

[-] TheStoicCrane 8 Points 3 months ago

It's good to be strong but martial arts imparts the illusion of strength. In the words of George Saint Pierre, "Nobody's as fast as a bullet." and he's an MMA champion.

[-] TopOccasion29 4 Points 3 months ago

Great points. One can do everything right and be well trained and prepared but may not get the desired result.

[-] MatrixofLe3adership 3 Points 3 months ago

That is true, but I won't willingly enter that situation unless I absolutely have to. As I told another commenter, I cannot risk any more concussions, and even contact sports are a big risk for me.

I briefly read through the post---intend to review it in-depth later---and it looks brilliant. The mongoose and Agent Smith metaphors are pretty good.

[-] MikeTyson91 65 Points 3 months ago

IMO if you have zero experience in something fundamental (boxing, wrestling) MMA is a waste of time. Jack of all trades, master of none.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 29 Points 3 months ago

The complete saying was originally “A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.” Formerly intended as a compliment, the phrase means that a person is a generalist rather than a specialist, versatile and adept at many things.

Doesn't matter how good you are at defending yourself when you're up against a woman. Better to be adaptable and knowledgeable about dangerous situations in real time.

But when I refer MMA, I'm actually referring to the fundamentals: Boxing, Wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai. Not something dumb like Krav Maga.

[-] inittowinit777 18 Points 3 months ago

I thought Krav Maga’s apparently the best discipline to learn if you want to excel in “real world” fight scenarios? What’s your take on it?

[-] knife_music 12 Points 3 months ago

If you're in America, you almost certainly can't do Krav Maga. There's no rules as to who can call themselves Krav, and the style itself doesn't have anything distinctive to it- the guy who made it up was a wrestler and a boxer.

Point is that most schools calling themselves Krav Maga are milquetoast MMA without the benefit of competition and bent towards running away. Training a 'sport' style and sparring hard or actually fighting so as to be used to aggression and comfortable getting hit is a thousand times more valuable than a couple of drills spent on standing chokes or groin kicks with willing partners. There's nothing that most Krav schools teach you that MMA wouldn't make you proficient with, past weapons- and there are a lot of schools that don't even cover that until you've got a lot of hours under the belt.

[-] -Fidelio- 8 Points 3 months ago

There's mcdojo's in every art. It's not the art, it's the quality of the person you're learning from.

I would recommend meditations on violence for anyone who wants to think seriously about how to look at fighting and violence.

The best idea I got from it, which still informs my training, is that a real fight is:

  1. fast
  2. hard
  3. unpredictable

And in order to train fighting, you have to take away at least one of these to make it safe.

When martial arts trainings grew stagnant, it was because they were rehearsed moves, what Bruce Lee famously called "Organised despair". They took away unpredictable element.

Every single competition eliminates some part of the unpredictable element by implementing rules (including no improvised weapons and having the fight take place in a sanitized arena, instead of throwing people over unsteady tables etcetera).

This means that nothing you watch really emulates a fight taking place spontaneously.

Krav maga has the advantage of training things that wouldn't be legal in competition, muay thai, kickboxing, savate, tae kwon do have the advantage of using legs effectively and so on and so on, they all have their advantages.

Just know that practically nobody you learn from is an expert, because practically nobody has been in more than a handful of life-threatening fights, even seasoned cops or veterans.

There are no ultimate answers, there are no ultimate arts, there is no perfect alertness, we're all squishy meatbags. Accept that and keep it in mind as you train. It also means that you might win even against the bigger, stronger, better trained opponent.

Besides people think of fights as this mano-a-mano one on one fight, but you really don't know if he has friends, if they'll fight fair and so on.

Don't wank yourself of by what style is better than what style, or even focus on what teacher is better than what teacher... now that I think about it, it's best to have crystal clear why you're training and finding the best situation to do exactly that.

In the end, fights are so rare in the modern world and so many avenues to resolve conflict (even viciously) without fighting, that it seems like a waste of time if you just do it for that purpose.

[-] knife_music 5 Points 3 months ago

Mate, I learn MMA because it's fun. You're preaching to the choir if you think you're dropping some revelations at me by quoting a book I first read at thirteen. You're kinda broadly right, but the idea that learning to throw people onto pads doesn't help throw them onto tables is a little flawed- anything that teaches you good, fundamental skills is helpful, and what's more helpful is to learn how to be aggressive.

Meditations on Violence talks about how and why violence happens, not how to train for it. Rory Miller just recently tossed out a book about drills for preparing for sudden violence, that was decent, and I know Marc Macyoung did some good ones about fundamentals of real-world violence, but Meditations is not the right book to use as the bible of your martial-arts training. Should go about expanding your horizons.

[-] -Fidelio- 1 Point 3 months ago

It may seem like I was telling you, but I was telling whomever was looking for advice.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote here, nor did I say that training doesn't prepare you at all; just making sure that people who get a too big ego around it have been suitably warned. It's an easy mistake to make and I've seen it been made often.

The only thing I disagreed with in your previous post is that you seem to think krav maga is inherently inferior to mma, which is nonsense. I don't even like krav maga, but I try to appraise effectiveness as honestly as I can. You don't need special qualifications to teach mma either. Or for any of the martial arts. It's a free for all.

Your previous advice might lead someone to become a member of a shitty mma group. There are good ones and bad ones.

[-] knife_music 1 Point 3 months ago

Krav is inferior because, by and large, they teach the same things but one doesn't spar. I train both Krav and MMA, have for years, and I like 'em both, but I've seen a lot of RBSD groups and I've seen very few that engage in the consistent, competitive sparring that you see in any decently serious MMA gym. There are helpful things to be learned from Krav- we do weapons, we do multiple attacker drills, stuff that you don't get out of MMA, but if I was going to choose one it would be the one that helps engage real aggressiveness.

[-] -Fidelio- 1 Point 3 months ago

I'm surprised. I've never come across a krav maga group that doesn't spar at least every second training.

Still, makes more sense to advise to find a group that spars, rather than advise based on the art.

[-] TheStoicCrane 3 Points 3 months ago

Which is exactly why lifting is encouraged over MMA here. At least lifting has functional applications. All using MMA outside of sport will do is land you in jail for the sake of egoism (At least in the US.)

[-] Hviterev 10 Points 3 months ago

Wouldn't advise krav, but better than doing nothing. Top strat would be boxing + bjj and training in real life defensive.

How do you apply boxing on multiple opponents, deploy a weapon, when to grapple and when not to etc.

Krav has a lot of larping in most places

[-] sanos7 5 Points 3 months ago

Did Krav for 3 years or so. MMA for 2 years now. Wing Chun as a teenager.

Ultimately it's about what brings you closest to real fighting. You gotta be placed in situations where you don't know what's going to happen. All you know that another motherfucker is trying to kill you/win over you. That also depends on the gym and the setting.

Almost all man-to-man fighting is ritualized dueling. Even in street fights you observe guys following certain "honor rules". They serve to make the fight fair and especially to limit lethality.

So there's always a gap between martial arts and even most street fights on one hand, and true, actual life-or-death, one survivor fighting.

Whichever discipline you choose, you want to come as close to real fighting (because it makes you the best prepared) while still observing the "limit lasting damage" principle.

In my experience, in this day, that is MMA. Wing Chun and Krav weren't realistic enough in this sense. Too much drilling (ie. you know what's gonna happen). Not enough real action; two men going for the win.

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[-] WarriorMonkMode 5 Points 3 months ago

Seeing as TheRedPill is about doing "what works" through trial, error, and verification through exposure to real world interactions and krav maga is "too dangerous" to be tested in full force sparring matches should tell you all that you need to know.

If you can't test it through personal experience, it's bullshido. You gotta curate all the information you receive and verify if it is true, not just blindly accept what you hear on the internet.

[-] Shitonya_Johnson 10 Points 3 months ago

cops and military seem to do it well... Krav Maga is an excellent path to take

[-] Throwaway-242424 2 Points 3 months ago

cops and military seem to do it well

Both of them carry and use guns, it's not clear why they should be the ultimate guide for unarmed combat.

[-] RP_Br3 9 Points 3 months ago

Krav Maga has the biggest potential for getting out of a fight in one piece since it's the only martial art promoting use of eye gouging, throat punching and kicking below the belt. However, it's downfall is the same reason as you seem to indicate it's the best, there's no sparring. Not knowing how to defend oneself or taking a punch makes most Krav Maga practitioners glass cannons that don't actually know how to implement their knowledge, since a real life situation means the opponent will fire back or not just stand in one place in front of you. Krav Maga is by far the best if you can train it with militaries or Israel/some places in Eastern Europe, since they promote at minimum light-contact sparring, but outside from those locations is garbage.
The best in real life use is most likely Muai Thai followed by kickboxing. Stand-up is in general better for self defense than grounded arts due to easier dealing with multiple opponents, which is likely in real life. If you're a smaller guy however learning BJJ isn't a bad idea due to it's ability to neglect size disadvantages in a 1v1 (see Gracie in early ufc), but you still need striking due to taking it to the ground in real life is a bad idea. MMA incorporates everything, but their gyms are a whole subject by itself, and if you don't want to make martial arts a huge part of your lifestyle it's better to spend all your time learning a full-body stand up art like MT or Kickboxing.

[-] Throwaway-242424 2 Points 3 months ago

it's the only martial art promoting use of eye gouging, throat punching and kicking below the belt.

All meme techniques that are overrated and can't be trained live.

[-] johnyann 4 Points 3 months ago

Poor man’s sambo to be honest.

Problem is that there aren’t a lot of places you can learn Sambo outside of Russia.

[-] PraiseBasedDonut 4 Points 3 months ago

You are right but having a base, like boxing or muay thai is actually way better for MMA. So if you are a beginner i would advise you to start either boxing, muay thai, wrestling or bjj. It will help you a lot more and make you a better athlete overall. If you are not a beginner, then i would advise you to focus mostly on two of them and do the others less.

[-] knife_music 7 Points 3 months ago

Start from wrestling. By far the strongest base for MMA and probably the most valuable self-defense wise; most people aren't familiar with grappling, and the ability to physically control someone else and spike them on their head if you do please is helpful.

[-] TesticlesTheElder 3 Points 3 months ago

All styles including MMA and Muay Thai are subject to bullshido.

People will give a zillion opinions about “zzz art is best!” “No yyy art is better!” Anyone suggesting a given art is better is a noob falling victim to one of the common pitfalls of noobdom: “amateurs discuss tactics, pros discuss logistics.”

What that means is there is no best art, and all that matters is if a given school does live sparring against resisting opponents. That’s it.

Rule of thumb: if a school does not do medium to hard sparring 50% of the class time at the end of a dedicated student’s first year, it’s bullshido.

Now that is not to say that a school of a given style is not more likely to do live sparring. Boxing = very likely. Krav Maga = fairly likely. However, ever seen a tai chi school that does live sparring? But they do exist.

It is important to note that BJJ and other grappling styles you can go harder earlier due to not using strikes to the head.

The reason that you don’t put noobs into sparring is that they will inevitably attempt to dish it out without being able to take it and thus will force someone to hurt them in order to not get hurt themselves.

[-] ELMasTurbo 1 Point 3 months ago

I disagree. I don't know if you have ever been inside an MMA school but most reputable gyms will have both reputable grappling programs (usually BJJ) and a reputable striking program (usually Muay Thai or Kickboxing). They both train different areas of your game so I don't think that phrase applies. If anything it makes you a better fighter because you will know what to do once a fight goes to ground. as someone who only trains muay thai/ dutch kickboxing, I'd probably panic if I were fighting a bigger dude and he took me down to the ground.

[-] Throwaway-242424 1 Point 3 months ago

This is just broscience derived from the fact that most guys in MMA tend to come from other combat sports, particularly in the USA where scholastic/collegiate wrestling is so common.

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[-] throwawaybpdnpd 62 Points 3 months ago

Can’t agree more

Since I started doing muay thai and brazilian jiu jitsu my aura changed, I am way more confident because I am comfortable knowing I can defend myself physically very well if I have to

Great post, keep it up !

[-] rpmc83 23 Points 3 months ago

Had my first 3 classes of BJJ this week. What an amazing and fun skill to develop.

[-] NiceTryDisaster 31 Points 3 months ago

So...you vs khabib in Russia next month? /s

[-] rpmc83 22 Points 3 months ago

Haha, we have guys who compete nationally at my gym. Last night after class, I stayed to roll for a couple hours with whoever showed up. Ended up being the competitive guys and me. It was a very humbling experience. I'm 6', 200lbs, lift lots and am (visually) very fit but it barely helped. It was one of those moments where you realize just how tough you aren't, while being forced to respect the art. It's an amazing opportunity to roll with people much better than you who take a moment to show you why you lost and what you could have done differently to have a chance. Unlike most other sports and activities, losing in BJJ is visceral and fascinating. It's an incredibly positive experience regardless of the outcome. I'll definitely be going back.

[-] sanos7 2 Points 3 months ago

Agreed. The is a big culture of respect in martial arts, and of seniors teaching juniors.

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[-] Eat_Animals 35 Points 3 months ago

While I won't deny that being a decent fighter is a fantastic life skill and that many of the points here are GREAR advice and good to learn from there's one problem that all these "fighter" posts seem to have. In the SMP, size matters, a lot. You can be that baddest little manlet on the mat but when you're a 5'7" 150 pound man women are not noticing you. I doesn't matter if you could best most men in the room in combat, if you don't look physically imposing, unfamiliar women don't care. AT ALL.

You could of course build a reputation within your social circle that you're an accomplished fighter but to women and men who don't know you, if you don't look like much, as far as they're concerned, you aren't. Being capable of successfully utilizing violence is great for survival but in the crumbling Feminized Western world today, utilizing even a little violence is a good way to wreck your life (get arrested and as a result, get fired, lose professional licenses/credentials, lose social standing etc)

All non-tangible things being equal (confidence, intellect, fighting skill) put two men, one being 5'7" 150lbs of lean fighter, and the other being 5,11" 180lbs of weightlifter/football etc, and the bigger man is going to command more respect and attention from unfamiliar women and even men. It's cave-man wiring.

I only say all that to say this, if you can reasonably put on 5-15 pounds of muscle, you probably should.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 15 Points 3 months ago

Watched a world champion get tossed around by a guy who had an extra 200lbs on him. You're definitely right. No amount of MMA training can overcome that deficit. No amount of size can stop a bullet either, though.

[-] Eat_Animals 18 Points 3 months ago

Ok but how many bullets are you dodging in your every day intersexual relationships? Are we talking about the Sexual Marketplace, women and being a regular testosterone driven man (the subject of The RedPill) or are we talking about the the Korengal Valley, Baghdad, or Nairobi?

[-] WarriorMonkMode 6 Points 3 months ago

I don't know man, every negative pregnancy test and every false allegation dodged seems like a bullet dodged to me!

My point being is that safety is an illusion, and since the Red Pill is about seeing things as they are rather than what we want them to be, we should be aware that our safety is not guaranteed whether it be dealing with women or men. We need to take steps to protect ourselves from threats both physical and mental. Men are at risk of physical death from other men, whereas men are at risk of spiritual death from women.

[-] Nicolas0631 11 Points 3 months ago

Any woman could also kill any man, even a MMA champion easily if she wanted too. There is no need for strength to kill one persone. Physical power is pratical, yes. It help tremendously on confidence and sexual success yes. It isn't a silver bullet.

[-] Eat_Animals 3 Points 3 months ago

Yes safety is definitely taken for granted by many many people. I certainly was one many years ago.

Si vic pacem, Para bellum

[-] clon3man 12 Points 3 months ago

true. but let's be honest - the 5'7" with the "sleeper" chiseled body, fighting skill and accompanying discipline and confidence from having gained that skill, is a Rockstar with most women and men once they get to know him just a little. That fact that many women will pass on a first impression is somewhat irrelevant at that point.

And he's miles ahead of 90% of people. He might still get ignored as a first impression when he has his clothes on and isn't in a confrontation... but people will feel is raw power and alphaness under minimal examination.

[-] Nicolas0631 9 Points 3 months ago

If you are an experienced fighter, you have the skill, denamour, body language and confidence and it shows.

Of course it is 100% true that brute force isn't much as it is always easy to out power you with cunning, a thing that humans do on a regular basis.

[-] Eat_Animals 7 Points 3 months ago

Unless you're talking about wearing a tapout shirt, no one can see your skill while you're talking to strangers at the pub. They see your tangible, physical appearance.

[-] Nicolas0631 7 Points 3 months ago

They see your confidence, your build and they see your body language. The way you behave, speak, look and move is different. That's enough.

Anyway it isn't like you actually want to fight.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

which is why both mass and fighting skills are important

[-] buttgoogler 31 Points 3 months ago

Post like this are the reason why I'm still coming back to trp. Great work, Sir.

[-] jackandjill22 25 Points 3 months ago

I strive to be the wisest in the room.

[-] OnlyCuriosity 65 Points 3 months ago

“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.”

― Confucius

[-] ShadowOfOrion 13 Points 3 months ago

It’s far better to not be a swordsman than a mediocre swordsman. Battlefields are littered with the corpses of those that are mediocre.

[-] jackandjill22 3 Points 3 months ago

Or you're the most cunning, in which case you can as a Machiavellian use everyone in there are pawns to your own ends. Just because they're not as smart as you doesn't mean they're not useful.

  • There are other types of forces than brute.
[-] WarriorMonkMode 26 Points 3 months ago

A wise man tends to not violate any more than one rule of stupid at any given time: going to stupid places, at stupid times, with stupid people, to do stupid things. Breaking more than one rule at a time normally increases the likelihood of bad shit happening.

[-] jackandjill22 1 Point 3 months ago

Agree 100% you would be surprised how successful you can be just by being wary of incompetence.

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[-] ILoveToEatLobster 20 Points 3 months ago

Lol this is some retard shit

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[-] OnlyCuriosity 18 Points 3 months ago

there's some good stuff here but some other stuff that is just silly. also, you contradict the meaning of dangerous multiple times.

[-] WarriorMonkMode -4 Point 3 months ago

Life is full of contradictions, but if you could point them out I wouldn't be above fixing my post if necessary.

[-] OnlyCuriosity 16 Points 3 months ago

dangerous = high risk/unstable. who is more dangerous, a trained SEAL with an AR or some drunk jackass who just went to his local Walmart and bought a pistol without ever having shot a gun before? yes, as you said, the SEAL is more lethal, but it is more dangerous to be around the other because he is inexperienced. so, do you still want to be the dangerous guy? also, nobody wins in a fight nowadays, you either end up hurt or in jail. and no amount of training will stop a bottle from being smashed over the back of your head. so, the best tactic is to de-escalate it. however, yeah, if you are forced to fight its best to be in the best form you can be. lmk what you think.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 2 Points 3 months ago

Competence separates these two definitions. A trained marksmen is a danger to others specifically, whereas a drunk guy with a gun is a danger to others as well as himself.

Double edged sword and all that. Dangerous in the hands of the inexperienced and incompetent, extremely dangerous in the hands of a master.

Naturally, being in a bad position like you described goes in line with my theory that the best fights are the ones that are never fought. De-escalate, have an exit strategy, remove yourself from the danger.

Case in point, someone was driving too fast in a parking lot and almost hit me as I peaked out between to parked cars to see if cars were coming. I yelled something along the lines of "watch your fucking speed." He stopped his vehicle, got out and faced my direction. Short chubby guy, threatened me and made a hand movement towards the small of his back. I kept eye contact with him as I made my way to my vehicle: no amount of training will stop a bullet if was armed. Nothing was on the line except my ego and ego often goes hand in hand with blue pilled delusions.

I ended up leaving without harm as a lady got out and started berating him for blocking her right of way.

Protected myself from a dangerous situation by being aware of unknowns and removing myself from a potentially disastrous situation. Juice wasn't worth the squeeze, obviously.

[-] OnlyCuriosity 3 Points 3 months ago

yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm trying to think of a word that means dangerous but without the downsides. perhaps physically imposing or simply dominant. if you are physically imposing, while maintaining frame/remaining cool and collected, you will be respected and probably not fucked with unless you are instigating or something is really off.

also, the 'threat of instigating' is useless (in a physical sense) in most interactions. idk how many fights you are getting into but 99.9% of my interactions have no sense of 'i could beat this guy up' or vice versa. maybe subconsciously they do. surprisingly enough, most people would avoid a fight at all costs. so, if you're boss (who has power over you) tells you to do something that you don't want to do, you're supposed to physically intimidate him? in modern society physical intimidation is rare.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 1 Point 3 months ago

Make your bosses addicted to you. Id you're working at a job where your employer treats you like shit, you're working the wrong job. The purpose of a job working for someone else is doing stuff you don't want to do anyway, in exchange for cash.

Yeah, I normally focus on being indispensable to my employer, so they're much less inclined to make me do dumb things.

Obviously, not every slight demands an immediate response, or even a response at all.

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[-] wrightedgeworthy 10 Points 3 months ago

Don't forget you have to write 500 word Field Report and read TRP post. Don't forget to find the bluepillers in reddit and downvote them. Don't forget you have to check Roosh blog and work full time to support yourself.

Average sleep time over here is 10-15 min only

I wonder if redpiller here ever have time to have sex

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[-] polskaPolio 2 Points 3 months ago

There are 168 hours in a week. Deduct the hours dedicated to sleep is 110-120 hours. A third of that goes to work; now, we have 70 hours - more likely 60 if we're being realistic.

You don't have to be a jack of all trades overnight. You need to know how to manage you're time and adjust to your priorities. People always want the shortcut to everything because they're unable to think beyond 30 days - hell, even 30 hours. They want to be the best at everything NOW. This isnt about where youre at in 6 months or a year. This is where you see yourself in 5 years. You should focus on one thing at a time build yourself until youre proficient with that skill then should you begin to something else, revising that previous skill every so often and add something to it.

People often start their businesses in their 30s, want to know why? They have accumulated enough skills over years - not weeks, so that they can take that gamble.

Don't become accustomed to the naysayers mindset because that just reeks weakness and you're not weak if you're still here.

[-] BlackPillBombings 1 Point 3 months ago

You will need to dedicate way more than third to work if you want to become a successful businessman millionaire.

[-] boy_named_su 9 Points 3 months ago

Being charming and able to talk your way outta shit also helps

[-] latinasonly 9 Points 3 months ago

BEST FUCKING READ on the redpill in a while i love it ! add it to the sidebar !!

[-] wobbleelbbow 7 Points 3 months ago

Sounds like paranoid bs, if you ask me.

[-] TopOccasion29 2 Points 3 months ago

It may seem that way but in reality what op is saying is true. How people treat other people typically depends on how dangerous and powerful they perceive the other person to be.

[-] checkmarks26 7 Points 3 months ago

Good read, always appreciate the posts that get right to the point and don’t confuse the issue. Good message, definitely making me reconsider boxing (most interesting to me) as self improvement and a means of protection. Thanks!

[-] WarriorMonkMode 4 Points 3 months ago

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

[-] tempolaca 7 Points 3 months ago

Great post. I trained BJJ for a long time, being somewhat short (5'8) I learned this: Can't fight a guy that have 20kg over you. Just can't. Unless he's a fatass, or you get lucky and got into a choke hold, or you happen to be a black belt and he's not, he will smash you. That's why size matters, and why girls go for the tallest guy.

You can counter this by being jacked as shit, but there is only so much muscle you can put on being short, without looking like a potato. Being short sucks.

[-] Collector797 12 Points 3 months ago

5'8" isn't that short. I have a buddy who is 5'8", all-state wrestler in high school, muscular but not exactly "jacked as shit," and I've watched him manhandle kids who have 4-6 inches on him.

One thing to keep in mind is that generally BJJ isn't huge on takedowns in the way wrestling is, which is a disadvantage when you're fighting a larger opponent. If you want to be a more complete fighter, might want to train a bit of wrestling or find a BJJ school that puts an emphasis on explosive takedowns.

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[-] konfettiboy 9 Points 3 months ago

How long did you train BJJ? I regularly roll with new guys that are 20kg more than me and I mostly play with them. And I have been doing it for only 2 years. Obviously in a real fight it would still be tough for me to survive but since I train a very self defense oriented style I am very confident I could win. Also the first UFCs.

Aren't you just hating on yourself for being "short"?

[-] WarriorMonkMode 3 Points 3 months ago

Look to be the tallest man in the room then, if you can help it. Look to be the big fish in a little pond. Location, location, location.

And as the saying goes: God made man, Sam Colt made them equal. Bigger doesn't always necessarily mean better. Be creative. Don't engage into a physical contest with a man who's got 20kgs if you can help it, just ain't worth it.

[-] Zabaoth 6 Points 3 months ago

I unintentionally became one. While in med school a neighbor attacked me, had me pinned down and the only way I saw for him to get off, was to slice his arm in a way I could break free and not cause permanent damage, but a nice display of pain and blood. Cops checked our injuries in the hospital I studied in. So everyone knew. With little time, as all stories do, it grew to the point I was the guy who stabbed people if they made him mad and got away with it.

So if I ever had a disagreement, I was very polite in telling them I'd be doing wathever I wanted. It's convenient to this day.

[-] 5hubham 6 Points 3 months ago

The things that you talk about in hierarchy, hormones and this being a game, Is that from Jordan Peterson's Book.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 5 Points 3 months ago

I've held these theories for about 3 years now, but I used his talks and my personal experience to flesh out this point, yes.

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[-] Radioactivebuny 6 Points 3 months ago

Implying you couldn’t reliably beat your average cop in a gunfight if you trained regularly for a month

[-] WarriorMonkMode 17 Points 3 months ago

Rather than winning a battle to end up losing the war, position yourself strategically so that you never have to find out if you'll win or not.

[-] Radioactivebuny 2 Points 3 months ago

I’m just being a prick. I’m well aware, WELL aware of and practice the “best gunfight is the one you never get into” mantra.

Or best fight, period.

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[-] WarriorMonkMode -1 Point 3 months ago

Even still, it's something men have to be weary of nowadays. Women have effectively weaponized the executive and judicial system through the power to vote coupled with their adeptness at manipulating weak-minded men. Police normally fall into that category because they're conditioned to follow orders and to not be critical thinkers in order to not be street judges/lawyers.

I actually failed years ago to become one because my IQ was too high. They said I'd get bored during long patrols or something like that.

What makes police dangerous isn't necessarily their authority, it's their monopoly on violence coupled with their sheer numbers. Like I said, agent Smiths under the color of authority.

[-] VisiblePlan 12 Points 3 months ago

You didn't get rejected because your IQ was too high. You just told yourself that.

[-] WarriorMonkMode -2 Point 3 months ago

It's common for police departments to target a certain range of test scores, with the logic being that a person who has "too high" of an IQ will leave for a job that scales better, rendering the high cost of training them a waste of resources.

I also got denied a job as a dishwasher, funny enough, for the same reason. They told me they would like me in a serving position after my test score, but I wasn't looking to deal with customers.

[-] Nicolas0631 5 Points 3 months ago

It is known that to get well along, people need to have similar IQ (something like no more than 20 difference). With a very high IQ AND fitting diploma, you could have been into the police, but maybe not just for patroling.

[-] ProgrammaticallyJob6 1 Point 3 months ago

Any idea how high it was? Like 115+?

[-] medsauce 4 Points 3 months ago

I see the logic, but things are different nowadays. Physical dominance no longer has the same value as it used to.

I heard Mike Tyson say in an interview

“This world we live in, this is not a tough mans world, it’s a thinking mans world”

[-] WarriorMonkMode 2 Points 3 months ago

Thinking is dangerous in a world where wrongthink is not only discouraged, it's punished.

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[-] WarriorMonkMode 1 Point 3 months ago

Exactly my point that I made in my post. Better to be a leader than a fighter in a situation like that. One man can't stand against 30 beats.

[-] Andgelyo 4 Points 3 months ago

I’ve always wanted to get into boxing so I can beat the shit out of other men if needed. Anybody know any good boxing gyms in NJ?

[-] TheStoicCrane 3 Points 3 months ago

"Always strive to be the most dangerous man in the room." For Black men in America this is a bad idea. Strive to exudea distinguished presence, yes but few things are as dangerous as flying bullets. To "be the most dangerous man in the room" in a literal sense means strapping one. For what purpose? Egoism? Please.

[-] Mangasbzo7 3 Points 3 months ago

DO NOT BE AFRAID TO BE A MONSTER

Society is only trying to feminize you bc they know once you tap into your animal power you are unstoppable.

Even more formidable is when you join with other men who have also unlocked their animal spirit

[-] Managicall 3 Points 3 months ago

"Power perceived is power achieved."

This is the antithesis of "Knowledge is power" often attributed to Francis Bacon, from his Meditationes Sacrae (1597)

The pagan culture of martyrdom as established by the Catholics is truly disgusting. What you should look for among the boys in blue is that none are with the Italian mafia. Its not a Russian if it understands Latin, wouldn't want to start another mistaken cold war.

[-] trentrez95 2 Points 3 months ago

Great post. Powerful stuff.

[-] Thefireman83 2 Points 3 months ago

Anyone besides me not want to spend my free time wrestling around and touching other men? (BJJ). Going to the gym everyday seems enough. Haven't been in a fight my whole adult life, have avoided unnecessary conflict and have found ways to deescalate bad situations.

[-] sanos7 3 Points 3 months ago

You can afford to take this position only because violence and fighting is outsourced for you to other men who are willing for and comfortable with it. You don't get to decide whether conflict is unnecessary or not, the aggressor decides that for you.

Strong collectives of men are the biggest threat to the powers that be. Don't ever let them make you believe that men sharing time and physical contact is "gay".

For millions of years each men and each tribe was required to hold his own in a fight. We are hardwired for it. A lack of fighting, much like a lack of natural foods, is what is deteriorating our spirit and health in this slave society.

[-] CaptainBW 2 Points 3 months ago

CCW > MMA. Lmao not that it doesn’t take away from the striving for athleticism aspect.

[-] DouglasPR 2 Points 3 months ago

I think I got what OP has in mind. We just need to translate to our different realities and environments. Mutatis Mutandis. In my case means to be in a corporate meeting room with 5 to 8 other men in suits, plus 2-3 women, understand that dynamics and power plays and apply TRP to it, have frame and mastery of your area, be part of the solution, not the problem, and so on. Physical appearance, money and grooming is still a factor, broad shoulders under the well fitting suit, a nice perfectly trimmed beard, armani cologne and a merc coupe parked outside. Its important you outstand the men around you.

[-] sanos7 2 Points 3 months ago

Great post.

A lot of guys miss the point.

This shouldn't be a fighting vs. lifting discussion. Should a football player train or lift? WTF. Gotta do both. Train for skill, study for understanding, and lift for raw power, strength, explosiveness, speed.

The bro who only lifts, could he win games? Similarly, will you win at life and interpersonal dynamics by just lifting?

Also points about the penalties on fighting in modern society only serve to prove the importance of martial arts.

Firstly, as a man you have an innate, hardwired need to confront conflict, seek risk, and experience fighting. We've fought for millions of generations, as individuals and collectives. Fighting triggers testosterone etc. So you exercise this innate need and be and feel like a bad ass, or become and feel sub-human. Much, much better to exercise it in a controlled setting with men you trust and who are all trying to become better men. Because yes, the penalties for actual physical altercations are real and lasting.

Secondly, exercising this drive and improving your skill will give you confidence and calm in real life altercations, that actually make it more likely that you will do the right thing. Instead of either shutting down and getting dominated, or blacking out and murdering another dude, you will stay in control and only apply the necessary force to stop things (or have the sense to get the fuck outta there if outmatched).

Lastly, getting acquainted with martial principles in practical, physical ways makes you better at applying them in meta-physical manners. Meaning, practicing fighting makes you better at hostile business situations for example, or competing for promotions, or competing for girls. Because you're inoculated to the stressors, because you understand outflanking, outsmarting, outmaneuvering, because you understand strategy, because you understand getting back up after being beat down, because you understand diversions, etc. etc. etc.

Lift AND fight.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

The mongoose doesn’t outmaneuver crap. It outlasts the cobra by cheating death. Cobra bites mongoose, mongoose kills cobra, mongoose goes into a coma for 30 minutes and wakes up to a meal. I don’t know about the rest of this drivel, “bro”.

[-] thewrecker8 2 Points 3 months ago

The mongoose has a thick coat and is actually immune/highly resistant to snake venom

[-] WarriorMonkMode 1 Point 3 months ago

You're thinking honey badger.

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Mongoose are also resistant to snake venom.

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[-] Iceklimber 2 Points 3 months ago

So this means to always be recording, in case the unthinkable happens.

Lawyers on records & videos & consent forms:

A person who has freely chosen to have sexual activity with another person once does not give general consent to sexual intercourse with that person

Consent may also be withdrawn at any stage during a sexual encounter. Recently I dealt with a case where the victim consented to sexual intercourse with her partner but asked him to stop when it became painful. He didn’t stop. The accused was convicted

[Pre-recorded consent evidence] is unlikely to be determinative when considering the issue of consent.

What about a woman giving consent and then withdrawing it? Well that is still a lack of consent. A woman can give and can withdraw consent at any time, even once it’s started

Such video or oral evidence is just evidence, it is not determinative of the question of consent, the actual encounter may have been different in nature or take place after the complainant had changed her mind.

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the recording may be used against the defendant to show how intoxicated the woman was, or that there was an element of control or coercion in the exchange. It may also be used by the prosecution to show that the defendant had doubts as to consent or knew he was taking advantage and deliberately trying to protect himself from an anticipated allegation. What’s more, if there is any hint that the woman did not know about the recording, and that the defendant may obtain sexual pleasure from the video, the defendant could find himself facing more charges (such as voyeurism). -Source

[-] bruiser18 2 Points 3 months ago

Upvoted as soon as I read the title

[-] Zech4riah 2 Points 3 months ago

How do you even sleep at night or is it really this bad in US? :D

Hopefully you didn't start doing MMA because you were weak and afraid but because you like the sports.

[-] sanos7 1 Point 3 months ago

See your point.

There are no lists in life though. There is no Alpha Must Do Activities list. Life is not an RPG.

Fighting promotes masculinity. Lifting promotes masculinity. Both is better than one. If pressed for time, choose one. And I agree that generally lifting will yield a higher ROI for the average man.

But mostly I think guys waste way too much time on bullshit (myself included) and could easily do both.

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[-] maljo24 1 Point 3 months ago

Always strive to be the strongest, smartest and least dangerous man in the room.

[-] 555WeWolf 1 Point 3 months ago

Although i agree with the fact that we should be physically fit and have a group of friends who we know can help us, some of this looks to me like to much paranoia?

Now i don't mean to dis anything you wrote here, the post is well written and everything makes perfect sense. But as someone who lives in Eastern Europe in a country that is even perceived a little more dangerous then your average, some of the things here just seem like straight up paranoia. Cameras in the home? Ok yes maybe useful for burglars and such. Record every phone call? Wear a body cam?? It almost seems to me like its beginning to just not be worth it anymore to do anything, since every turn around the corner there is a bus waiting to hit you. Is the situation really that bad in America and in the West in general because here everyone is going on about their everyday lives, there are alphas there are betas, hypergamy and everything but still people are just simply living their lives the best they can without all of the countermeasures.

[-] WarriorMonkMode 1 Point 3 months ago

In California it is. A home camera system saved my ass in a false allegation case, where I was arrested.

[-] MontaigneRP 1 Point 3 months ago

It's important to not get carried away with this and go on power-trips. Someone like myself, short, relatively weak - I've suffered as much as benefited by making sure /I'm the most dangerous man in the room. It can simmer in your brain over the long haul and make you a sad person, in many senses. Then again, we all live life for different reasons. I don't think it's a good thing to do, and I want other people to hear it from me. It's not healthy even if it adds to your instinctive need for bolstered security, to have certain avenues open for dealing with people. It's a fun idea beforehand - wow, imagine if I could click my fingers and 'deal with somebody' just like that - but the reality is it's stressful knowing it's an option, and it's stressful getting into confrontations with people who've no idea, and just 'letting it go' - stung with a sense of immaturity, shame, all sorts of feelings. It's always connected to a feeling of bitterness. I suppose feeling like the most 'secure' guy in the room is better than feeling like the most dangerous - and you can feel secure if you know you have true friends, and perspective. Danger doesn't come from having friends, and it doesn't make any friends. The most dangerous man in the room will self-destruct. It's such a fine balance. You want an ace up your sleeve, instinctively, but it just doesn't come with any positive feelings, adding it to your arsenal.

[-] GGG4673 1 Point 3 months ago

where can i purchase a hidden body cam? Everywhere i looked only sold big, noticeable body cams

[-] WarriorMonkMode 1 Point 3 months ago

Amazon has some in stock with a nifty hidden extension so that it's not noticable.

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[-] Gl0weN 1 Point 3 months ago

what the fuck is this retarded post I am not putting up damn cameras in my house what the fuck are you smoking

[-] TruthSeekaaaaa 1 Point 3 months ago

Is there any way to learn the basic of self defense without going to a gym, at least for a few weeks?

[-] Feelinggood702 1 Point 3 months ago

“In every interaction with another person, there are the undercurrents of danger: I am polite and kind by choice, not by necessity.”

Very James Bond undertone here. Glad to see your point but don’t forget the tenderness that you too can be capable of.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ki4UKsI8bms

World champion boxers. Yet the tenderness and openness they have shows beautiful brotherly love. Is there still the undertone of violence and domination? Absolutely.

“Always be expanding your circle and always be bringing in people into your frame.“

Read Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. The way you’re framing it here makes the expression look dark and manipulative.

“Avoiding areas or crowds, like a group of meat head AMOGs at a bar with your pretty girl, is highly advised.“

You’re showing you’re not very confident in your social skills and still view other men in an antagonistic light.

“Never corner yourself in an interaction with no exit strategy whether it be with a man or woman.“

Wtf do you mean by this? Look at yourself, dude. You think and feel like you’re cornered around people.

I like the archetypes of danger that you present. Good job. But keep it up, and I’ll end up calling you “The Danger Guy.” Not a good look. Having physical combat skills is good, it’s just you’re coming from a frame that there are repercussions if you don’t train MMA. I think a good chunk of men that focus on self-defense have some inferiority complex that they are not confident in who they are and will have to focus on the end- physical retaliation, in order to feel secure in themselves. Hopefully they get out of that thinking as they progress, but goddamn that’s not a good thing to start out with.

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[-] Pajca 1 Point 3 months ago

Hey, can you give me a clear list of tips and things I should do to be the most dangerous man I can be. And keep it as short and clear as possible because I had some trouble understanding the post.

Thanks.

[-] astralreflection 1 Point 3 months ago

Mob deep- survival of the fittest

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[-] Parvenu76 1 Point 2 months ago

Post suggests recording. Any tips?

Want to buy a hidden camera for home use but want to avoid some break-in-3-weeks "hidden USB charger cam" ebaeChina crap, without spending DSLR money.

Also, I have not seen any practical solutions for on body concealed camera EXCEPT glasses cams, and I do not wear glasses so that's not exactly practical. "Let me just get my fake glasses out!" Is anyone actively doing this somehow otherwise?

Also, I presume that on iPhone and Android, downloading and using any app that facilitates recording calls implies that the app gets and keeps all of your calls too. Privacy is dead yeah yeah but... Any tips here also appreciated.

[-] pre-death 0 Points 3 months ago

Coming from a fighting background, I can wholeheartedly certify that lifting is superior than fighting. This video hits some valid points even if it was intended to be humorous.

[-] dumbkidaccount 0 Points 3 months ago

Get buff. No one would mess with you

Problem solved

[-] FiveStarTendieDinner -1 Point 3 months ago

Always carry weapons with you, legal or not. The rule of thumb is if anyone lays a finger on you in anger, and only in anger, it is your right as a man to beat and bludgeon them within an inch of their life. Remember that bloodlust is good for a man to tap into when the moment calls for it.

If you have to fight. Only remember one thing. YOU. FIGHT. TO. KILL.

Shoot them. Stab them. Make them bleed out. Crush their fucking skull on a curb. Do whatever you must. It isn't your concern that they are someone else's friend, brother, husband, father, whatever. Once the first punch is thrown you do everything you can to take their life and do not give a fuck about their feelings or well being. They are an enemy until their last breath leaves their bloodied corpse. Your victory is the only thing that matters in those situations.

[-] 10211799107 2 Points 3 months ago

You must use equal force otherwise you'll be the one in jail. Don't listen to this idiot.

[-] wrightedgeworthy 1 Point 3 months ago

Sure bro, how's that working out for you?