I am angry about the Quarantine. However, the fault is not in our stars, but in ourselves.
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In 1980, Candace Lightner started Mothers Against Drunk Driving after her 13-year-old daughter was killed in a car accident with a drunk driver. Candy's mission was noble: bring attention to the issue of drunk driving and reduce fatalities associated with drunk driving.
Within a short time, the organization grew rapidly and brought an influx of new members.
However, an increase of new members also brought a shift in the tone of the organization. M.A.D.D.'s mission became more extremist, more prohibitionist. This was against the Founder's intentions.
By 1985, just 5 years after starting M.A.D.D., Candy was ejected from the organization she created because the extremism of the new members overpowered and replaced Candy's original vision.
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This community has the same issues as any other in-group: one person saw a problem and had an idea about a reasonable solution. That one person gets a few people together, and they start talking about this reasonable solution.
Then a few more people join in. Then some more people. Then more people after that.
Suddenly, if you're not paying close enough attention, the "reasonable solution" can shift away from the original idea. A lot of the times, that shift moves towards the less reasonable, more militant and angry direction.
Then, there comes a time when the original ideas are cast out and rejected as the masses have flooded the in-group, the majority of whom are incapable of understanding the nuance and details of the original reasonable idea. They prefer the short, simple, extreme ideology that doesn't require much thinking and is easy to understand.
Most religions began with some dude preaching peace and love but later morphed into justifying violence and hatred. Christian fundamentalist now hate the poor. Islamic terrorists quickly grew to hate nonbelievers. Shit, even the Buddhists in Myanmar advocate violence against the religious minority in their country.
TRP is no different than M.A.D.D. The original idea founding this community is reasonable: maybe our cultural values and expectations for male-female sexual relationships are inconsistent with how people behave naturally. Maybe if you want to have more success with attracting women, you should change your behavior in a way that might be socially counterintuitive.
However, like with any other group, the nuance and the details are too much for the average savage to understand. All they know is that things with women aren't the way they expect them to be. And the default human response is to blame the other person instead of looking at ourselves.
This is the Anger Phase described in this community, where men are dealing with the discrepancy between their socially raised expectations and the natural reality of human sexual behavior.
This Anger Phase is typically expressed as a rage against women. "Women are all fucking whores." "These bitches can't be trusted." "These fucking sluts are just animals." "Women are fucking stupid."
All of these are just reflections of a guy's expectation that a woman behave differently than how she might naturally be inclined to behave. But what the newbies often fail to recognize is that being angry with women is like being angry because your cat knocks shit off your counter tops. If you are angry because your cat knocks shit off your counter tops, then you're the dipshit in this situation for expecting a cat to not do cat things.
So the members of this community can often react negatively to ideas that women are anything but "subhuman animals who aren't capable of being as awesome as their naturally superior male counter parts."
Such extremist ideas are short, simple, and easy to understand without having to do a lot of thinking; and those ideas are off base from the original reason why this community was started.
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So here we are. Quarantined. Who can be surprised it happened?
In the handful of hours after the Quarantine, I have seen exactly the wrong messages posted as a result of the Quarantine: "They're just afraid of us." "They just want to silence the truth."
No, fucktards, they didn't Quarantine this sub because "they're afraid of us;" they Quarantined the goddamn sub because we failed to keep the mission of TRP in focus. We cucked ourselves by allowing bullshit vitriol to clog up our boards.
Many of us came here to discover new wisdom in how to improve our sexual success with women. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL POINT OF TRP.
But what happened? Over time, all the women-hating retards from rincels flooded our ranks and filled our halls with rancor for women.
All of their posts carry the same message: "women = different, different = inferior"
These posts and comments all follow the same pattern: if you replace the word "women" with "blacks" or "jews", then the post would read like something you would expect to hear at a Klan rally.
It would be exactly like if half the posts on rfitness looked like rfatpeoplehate. You can hate fat people if you want and you can hate women if you want, just go fuck off and hate them in a sub that isn't my community focused on improve ourselves to become better, more attractive men.
THIS IS WHY WE WERE QUARANTINED. NOT BECAUSE OF "LE TRUTH", BUT BECAUSE A BULK OF OUR MESSAGE BECAME ABOUT FEMALE INFERIORITY.
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So yes, we failed. Like M.A.D.D. and other organizations before us, we allowed ourselves to be overrun by extremists who missed the message. While the Anger Phase is a natural step along the path of progression, many users failed to move past this phase; and the popular message shifted away from "how can we improve ourselves" and moved towards "women r dum, amirite?"
The question now is: how do we fix it?
And before the autists come out with "who gives a fuck what the cucks and feminists think of us?", realize for half a goddamn moment that it isn't self improvement that other people are rallying against. It isn't the notion that women are attracted to men with high SMV that they oppose. Their problem is that this sub has become a fucking hate group, with the loudest users talking shit about women and the minority of users focusing on self improvement.
Why does it matter to not be a hate community?
The reason it's important to not tolerate bullshit hate speach is because it detracts from the purpose of why men join this community.
What is the purpose of TRP? To improve our sexual success with women (and to another extent, improve ourselves for the sake of self improvement).
So how the fuck does a post bitching about Serena Williams and then a cascade of comments complaining about women in sports help me improve myself? Other than "women r dum," what exactly is the lesson we're supposed to learn from that?
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I liked this place. Several years ago, I came here as a blue-pilled loser with a history of failed relationships. The wisdom I gained from TRP literature helped me get over being angry with my ex's and instead focused my attention on becoming a better quality Man. Since joining this community, I became a lawyer, an officer in the US Army, and a volunteer member of my county's Search and Rescue team.
I viewed this place as having had a positive influence in my life, and I have volunteered my time to contribute posts and comments in an effort to share the wisdom I have gathered over the years. Beyond this community, this place gave me the mindset to create my own mission in life; and as a result, I regularly volunteer in my real life community, helping men and women, and boys and girls, get to the next step in achieving their goals for their lives.
I want to belong to the kind of community that believes in lifting each other up, not a community that is focused on putting others down.
There is a distinct lack of self awareness if someone says that this place doesn't have a problem. And this isn't about "appeasing femnazis and white knights." It's about observing the feedback from outsiders and taking a sober moment to ask "have we actually become a shithole?"
For the assholes whose response to that question is "I don't care if we are a hate group", then you are exactly the noise that the newbies have to fight through to get to the signal of quality TRP information.
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In conclusion, TRP is disorganized. Despite the best intentions and best efforts of the mod team (whom I genuinely salute for their thankless, volunteered time trying to clean up after us savages), the phrase "enjoy the decline" was an omen that described our community more than it described society at large. Instead of being a beacon for superior men in training, we became a cesspool of refugees from rincels.
I'm not the only user who sees things this way. There are plenty of users here who seek quality lessons to guide them along the path of self improvement and aren't interested in posts that preach "women r dum."
Perhaps this is the time when the community needs to fracture and a new community needs to be created that focuses on TRP's original message.
The Quarantine is our wake up call. Either things are going to get cleaned up around here and return us to our original mission of improving ourselves and our sexual strategy, or inevitably a new community will be created that will break up with the complacent, unattractive, fat community and will hook up with the more fit, more attractive, new community. (And this place better not be like those blue-pill communities that want to blame everyone else but itself for the fact that other people broke up with them).
gELSK 5y ago
// , Because of my interest in the sciences and history sees the number of upvotes on shit like this:
and this, about Marie Curie:
in the same thread, I don't start thinking "oh, no, we must ban the woman-hater", but it does seem beside the point.
I can arm myself with facts and skills needed for sexual success without becoming some tool of the Jiggidy Jiggidy Jenda Warz™.
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GLO is right that TRP becoming more strictly moderated would only delay a ban, not prevent it.
The sidebar and subscriber count are more at issue than the posts.
iiOgetsu 5y ago
I'm a long time lurker, but I feel like something should be said about the overarching point that everyone seems to be missing.
OP is right, and wrong at the same time. OP kind of spreads his cheeks and lets himself get cucked, he kinda dismisses the fact that we were going to have to deal with quarantine in the future, if not now. It wasn't a matter of if - only when, thus the idea that it's entirely our fault is markedly beta. Another user in the comments put it best: "I don't have that much 'voluntary surrender' left in me anymore." That much is correct.
However, and this is the big problem: what's happening here in this comment section is a clash of ideas in terms of what it means to be alpha. We aren't having a conversation, we're swordfighting, and not with actual swords, I mean with our dicks. We're defaulting to one of two camps: the super savage, hotheaded, hypermasculine and aggressive type, or the calm, cool, calculated, and cerebral type. Whilst I happen to fall into the latter camp, I don't think either one is without its merits, and BOTH are VERY VALID species of man. This is not me qualifying or pandering to one or the other either - in my experience, both are very valid, in a markedly self evident sense.
The point isn't necessarily to snuff out those who disagree to preserve our echo chamber, it's to have this discussion and at least get everyone on the same page going forward, so that we can preserve what we have here as long as we can. Because as I see it, I have to agree with OP on the point that a lot of the sub, and even the manosphere in general, has become an echo chamber. As much as I love the RMG, every so often I have to literally take a break from Red Pilled content, detox, and check my beliefs against sources that AREN'T Red Pilled. I constantly have this conversation with myself, and seek out to attack my Red Pilled beliefs with extreme fervor every week, yet I can't shake them. The Red Pill is simply too strong a lifestyle, there is no way to argue against it short of mental gymnastics. And to the extent that I am a rational human being, as most men are predisposed to being, I think it wise to stick with this form of thought. While I am fighting against my Blue Pilled programming, I recognize that the point isn't to brainwash myself, it's to force myself to seek my own truth in whatever I look at. That's the essence of the Red Pill analogy that Rollo put together in the first place. We are here not as burned men, tradcucks, incels, marked men, or whatever edgy insult or whatever you can think of: we are here as seekers and executioners of the truths behind intersexual dynamics and lifestyle improvement. We're here to make a difference in ourselves, and hope that other men will follow in our footsteps. We're here to realize our full potential, to become the Super Sayian or god or Superman or whatever the hell you want to be.
The OP's concern isn't with the topics of discussion themselves, but the vitriol and the borderline misogyny that exists within the manosphere, the part of this community that continually receives media attention without being the whole part of the group. It's the 80:20 rule, only used against us.
If you cannot realize this, and resort to doing nothing but name calling and bitching about the quarantine of the subreddit, then you're essentially nothing more than the screaming child you started off as when you came into TRP. That doesn't mean you have to eat shit, that doesn't mean you can't fall in the former of the two aforementioned camps, it just means that you clearly don't understand the issue being presented here and one argument of it, and however shallow said argument might be, it doesn't negate the validity of the issue. We've had this quarantine for a long time coming, how do we begin to get past this? Well, in my mind, the first step would be to stop arguing about what is "alpha". Rollo calls these placeholder terms for a reason, and Rian doesn't like using them altogether, and with good reason. We aren't attempting to go toward one singular ideal, because that ideal is different for everyone, and there would be no shortage of ideas added to what that ideal would be if we tried to define it. The point is to evolve ourselves into badasses of any caliber, relative to simple standards of success that we agreed upon in the beginnings of the manosphere.
I'm ending my shpeal here. You wanna debate this? Bite me. Lets see who holds out, I'm not going to stay away from the convo like the OP. I'll debate anyone who has a problem with anything that I said. I'm open to having my mind changed.
p_and_q 5y ago
Rollo has been mentioning giving a speech at the 21 convention on the red man group podcast. Wouldn't be surprised if this comes up.
I agree with you OP. There is a lot of hate and degradation towards women in this group that usually comes out in the comment section. Women on average have a different role to play in society then men do. Many here belive that role is inferior to the male role. So we then defend hateful comments with:
At the end of the day, red pill is about bettering yourself, not others. If you see these types of comments, know that these people either have a ways to go in their personal growth or no do not care to change that part of themselves. Either way it's that individual's decision to make.
There's a lot of anger phase bros as well machismos that will just spew hate because this is the only forum that will validate those feelings. You'll notice that we often preach being able to validate oneself without the help of others, and then ignore the fact that most FRs are just dudes who are looking to have their egos stroked (yeah, yeah, some have 'important incite into intersexual dynamics to impart' but most are just same story, different setting).
So my advice: take a break from this sub. There are times when men need this sub for advice and guidance, but most of the growing will happen in the real world. You can always try to impart your opinion on others, but it won't matter if it falls on deaf ears.
TRParchivist 5y ago
Just the idea of Mirror Work really puts people into a tizzy, huh?
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There isn't enough quality on here anymore. Red Pill should be about learning to take account for yourself but more often than not the blame falls on to the women who have just been women and played their dumb asses.
Or it's a long detailed account of someone who got laid and relates every little bit of that back to red pill "I guided her into the doggy position and whispered I was gonna fuck her. Dominance AWALT. Then she fucked my friend d after I caught feelz. What a bitch AWALT. This country is fucked."
It's hard to read the forum anymore.
If I could vote, I'd say take the ban and start charging/advertising for a quality controlled forum.
bouldurer 5y ago
Not sure why there are so many negative comments about this post. Thank you for posting this OP, I agree with it 100%. I think the root of the problems come from stubbornness vs compromise. Alot of folks here think compromise is equated to weakness and giving into the "feminist agenda"
Doctordinglefuck 5y ago
The difference between Candy at MADD and our leaders here at TRP is this: GayLubeOil is not a woman, he is a man, naturally born to lead. Redpillschool, same thing, hes a man naturally born to lead. Without our endorsed contributors and leaders, sure, it could quickly devolve into a pile of shit. But with proper male leaders, thats not going to happen, in fact its going to flourish and accomplish its original mission.
gELSK 5y ago
// , How much of your money are you willing to put where your mouth is
JamesSkepp 5y ago
Yes and no. The "womanhating just b/c she s a woman" wasn't as common as more reasonable posts about actual strategy. It didn't start the process of quarantine, it only sped up the process. There's no due-process needed here, if they want to ban us they'll find or make up a reason.
johnpayne10 5y ago
Besides, it is only fair that a lot of men here will sound misogynistic. After all, opening your eyes is not exactly a smooth journey. When you see how you were misled by everyone around you, it is obvious that you will feel anger and hatred towards society, towards women, towards everyone. As you better yourself, you slowly learn to get over the anger phase, accept women for what they are and eventually learn to enjoy and have fun with them.
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immibis 5y ago
There really is hate speech in this sub, and it does go supported and unmoderated, but there isn't as much as haters think there is.
NotLuceBree 5y ago
There is no "or". The first part of that sentence is what this sub is about.
I am fundamentally MGTOW at this point, but I started my journey here. I still lurk here from time to time. While I do lament that this place (to me) has essentially become another PUA board with a bunch of college kids bragging about getting laid, what you're missing is that there IS no "cleaning up" in the eyes of those who hate us.
There is simply no palatable, inoffensive way to discuss the core of what is discussed here (or on the MGTOW sub, to be honest). Women are women, and talking about women honestly, and talking about masculinity honestly, will ALWAYS be offensive to the mainstream. Reality is messy, and sloppy, and harsh. You can't scrub it clean, and you can't expect those who post here to change their tone and their ways to appease others, that goes directly against what this place is fucking ABOUT.
NotQuiteyourHand 5y ago
Friendly Neighborhood Dipshit
KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
How is this not concern trolling?
AlmightyPerun 5y ago
It sure feels like it, intentional or not.
immibis 5y ago
For one, the OP has a "TRP Legal Expert" flair, so I assume they've been around for a while and are not anti-TRP.
I also evaluated it for myself using critical thinking instead of just calling it concern trolling and ignoring it.
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Rian_Stone 5y ago
I'm putting together the final touches of my 21con speech, and i hate the idea of self improvment. I refer instead to improvement of self.
I know it's a nuanced point here, bear with me. self improvement is how you get edo culture in your alternator videos. Because people assume evreything they like benefits them, so self improvement becomes cold showers, push up contests, and Peterson getting you to clean your dick.
People completely ignore self. your best interests etc.
Stretching your analogy a little far, if you're driving off a cliff, learning how to change an alternator does you no good. But learning how to drive gives the alternator the context you need to use it as a tool.
Here's my only rub with your post. you're not wrong, but the selfimprovement is easily manipulated into 'do it for her' improvement, concern trolling, tone shaming, all those tools exist to put men back in their box. And unfortunately, the only real defense you have against it is to allow guys to be free to talk like guys, warts and all. So yeah, a lot of retarded bullshit on here, but I consider it the best of the bad options.
It beats the Athol Kay forum alternative, of psycho soccer moms turning this into her henhouse, and bullying guys off the platform. Mark Manson, Athol Kay, Neil Strauss, Tucker Maxx... they all said similar words to yours, and I don't blame them, they sound perfectly reasonable.
Problem is after the 7th failure scenario, ya just got to admit that 'socialism doesn't work' if you catch the metaphor here.
remember, we didn't call this a hate community, we didn't strive to be a hate communitiy. That label is their garbage fire, they threw it at our feet and told us to deal with it. Not our problem, we didn't create it. And so long as they continue to view it throuhg their warped lens, they will continue to find what they are looking to find.
If you're bored, take a look at any large sub with that same lens, and you'll see it there in spades. The power or narratives man
immibis 5y ago
This is not supposed to be a hate community, and 90% of it is well done and not hate, but the other 10% is hate and everyone seems to turn a blind eye.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
It's ok not to care, just because chicks do.
It's not like they are in here anyways
ultrasuperthrowaway 5y ago
That's BS there are very few, if any, threads focused on female inferiority. Most of the topics are from endorsed contributors with overwhelmingly positive messages.
Conduct a real analysis of the post topics and you'll find that the vast majority have nothing to do with woman hating.
Razkolol 5y ago
Hmm, free speech? Not trying to push an agenda? Hate comments usually get banned, I've reported and seen a lot of angry newbies get banned from here. You can't possibly think that liberalizing trp would be a good idea. We can clearly see that you haven't been around lately, the world is changing, you can get arrested for approaching women in some of the liberal "forward thinking" countries now, what if you just ask for directions and the chick interprets it as you hitting on her, your fucking ass is on the line in every interaction. In some companies you can't look women in the eye more than 5 sec or it's considered sexual harassment, if that's not a sign of submission I don't know what is. You want your life dictated by a girl's interpretation of an interaction or conversation that you had with her? Luckily that retarded momentum from the west hasn't properly hit eastern europe yet, but we sure as fuck need to fight to keep it out.
ManguZa 5y ago
Thx for your post. I agree with you.
There are still the issue of free speech obvisously but fellow redpiller shouldn't ignore their responsabilities. The Anger Phase aren't the issue, but the space it take on the reddit is.
And be cautious to not fall in a Anger Phase against the quarantine ;)
LikeARocStar 5y ago
"different doesn't=inferior". Go look at what happened to Greece when feminism became mainstream. Women's nature is they were born followers, not leaders. Do followers make decisions for the pack? no, so what happens when the followers gain more power than the leaders? Anarchy. The govt is providing welfare for single mothers, siding with women over men in divorce court, and endorsing cucks and misinformation about the real world. IF they weren't there would be mainstream red pill tv shows on cable television. Feminism is wrong, men being superior to women is right. I've said it since I was 5 years old. Ask all my friends, ive said this from a very young age. My Emotional IQ is a lot higher than the average bear. Tell me why there's feminism all over TV, and nothing about the RED PILL. We are losing this fight, we need to fight fire with fire. The louder side that cares less wins.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
The louder side who cares less wins?
Do you see the red pill as a social movement meant to combat politics and I cited change?
Or is this a secret meeting place to swap controversial truths in a dark world?
Option 1 = publicity and you aren't getting on TV calling people stupid faggots without class. If you are sophisticated you can get away with calling people trickle down bukakkee whores, but just saying it out right (which many commenters here do) will not work.
Option 2 = keep things under the radar = don't be loud.
LikeARocStar 5y ago
Yes I do see TRP as a social movement, if every man in the world knew about it, feminism would be annihilated in one night. No more beliefs>facts. If every man in the world knew what a shit test was, the world would be a better place.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
Yes but you can't lead a horse to water so you are going to be the red pill in to people's throats or you leave it as it is a secret collective
LikeARocStar 5y ago
shut your mouth boy, you know nothing about me. You want it as a secret collective because you have nothing else in your life. You fail to see the bigger picture. its almost like your ancestors were from a 3rd world country.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
I know that you promote a one world United together utopia that sounds an awful lot like the Leftist egalitarian society. That's all I need to know in order to disagree and discredit what you say .
Trp is a secret collective cus anyone can access the information but few do.
Either u force pal to be red or dont.
The big picture is either our planet is small and insignificant or we are all interconnected with one another in a cosmic consciousness so which way you want to take It bro
LikeARocStar 5y ago
If think you are small and insignificant. Talking to you is like talking to a woman, no wonder you want TRP hidden under wraps. Youre a natural beta male.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
You misunderstand what I say.
I don't want the red Pill to be a secret.
However even though the red pill is freely accessible, many men will never believe in it, read it, or apply any of the theory. Of the 300,000 readers, how many do you think actually put in the work?
80/20 rule.
Just like no matter how many times a spell it out for your retarded a** you Cannot force a horse to drink Water.
WaterYou can't force people to be red pill. The whole point of the matrix is people will fight and die to protect the matrix.
Now shut the fuck up you stupid ignorant bitch.
LikeARocStar 5y ago
You can force a horse to drink water, you drug it and force a tube down it's throat and make it drink. Youre weak, a natural born beta male. Neo fought and killed the people trying to protect the matrix.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
OK now we see your real thought process.
You're crazy lunatic who thinks like the Marxist left. "Kil Everyone who disagrees or thinks differently. Dissent is disallowed"
Also I'm not Beta or week I'd find you beat you up and kill you in person.
So yeah you know you could kill people if you really wanted , And start a movement Hitler did it you 2 can also start a genocide and be alpha.
Have. Fun when the horse decides to throw you off while you're riding him. . And don't forget neo didn't force people to take the pill he let them come to the pill when they were ready
Fucken dumb a**
immibis 5y ago
so how are you going to shove red pills down peoples' throats?
You can't just pipe ideas into peoples brains with a tube.
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gELSK 5y ago
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The guy who wrote it, if this can be believed, is not much of a patsy.
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destraht 5y ago
I just don't have much voluntary retreat left in me.
HiFr0st 5y ago
Man, from all the years here, i think il miss your shitlording the most
CainPrice 5y ago
I've always admired you. It's easy to bitch about men, women, sex, relationships, society, or whatever else on the internet and pretend to be enlightened.
You actually take time to meet guys, one on one, and try to help them out, one guy at a time. Maybe it's not a huge, world-changing, universe-crushing big deal, but you're actually doing something besides just pissing and moaning on the internet about how hard life is.
Somewhere along the way, guys lost their sense of brotherhood. Taking a bullet for the guy in your platoon, stretching that extra inch for your team even though you know you're going to take a helmet in the stomach for it, helping your brothers get laid and get ahead professionally. Not many guys do that any more. Most guys get a girlfriend and disappear entirely from their friends, and get ready to beat up their best friend of 15 years when he tells him that his girlfriend of 3 months is a bitch.
It's easy to lose sight of the bigger picture and see some random incel or social retard as a stupid loser, worthy of condemnation, when really, these guys are just lost boys who need to find their way, and at times be guided in the right direction. Even if a random loser doesn't end up becoming a multi-millionaire pussy magnet, if he puts on 10 pounds of muscle, stops eating Cheetos, and dresses a little better, just that little change is often enough to get a job and a little more sex here and there. That tiny difference is huge.
clavabot 5y ago
You're like the Dad/Older brother I wish I had
dontgiveupcarib 5y ago
He’s a lawyer, what more do you expect
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immibis 5y ago
Looks like I can't link to comments. But there was another comment here talking about how Jews control everything and the guy has a Firefox plugin to detect the word "Jew".
The comment has 15 upvotes. I do not understand how that is appropriate redpill material. People who come here to talk about unrelated conspiracies should be banned.
gELSK 5y ago
// , They could just be joking around, I guess.
Sounds like something from a stand-up comedy routine.
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immibis 5y ago
If there was a punchline, which there wasn't.
gELSK 5y ago
// , Some people are funny intentionally. Others, well, are funny in other ways.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
After he said this I knew he was calling you out. "Leader of internet hategroup"
I always thought agree and amplifying on that title was ridiculous idea. "You're part of a hate-group."
"Oh yeah, I'm the leader of an Internet hate group"
"Oh it is a hate group? Banned"
Even violence focused subs, like streetfights, have more professionally speaking communities.
The irony of the red pill is it's a community designed with the intent to help men become better men, all while every measure is taken to keep those same men out. Sure, all a man needs, except community, can be found on the sidebar. Community, however, is found right here In these threads.
Call them fags bitches, 100 IQ normie. Make every mis-step into a deep rooted failure. Is it possible to self improve without dealing with the abuse? Probably. As effective? Not sure.
I dont remember my gym coach call me a stupid loser fagot while I Dead lifted 225 for the first time.
Anyways there you go now we can debate whether militaristic teaching is superior to boxing coach learning.
Anyways /u/coldicezero is NOT suggesting "a cuckservative nonsense" his gripe wasn't resonability, is was with the perversion of the subs side bar mission. He also doesn't like the tone of TRP. You say its burly and masculine, I say its caty and unprofessional, not to mention the double standard. Who'd allowed to call who faggot without being banned? Regular people call eachother fags and its 30 day temps for slap fighting & breaking the "dont harass users" rule. Non-regulars do it and get upvoted. Rules are meaningless.
U wanna rant about baboon William's? TRP off topic. That IS a "Haha look a dumb girl" post - plenty of those in where all the good women go.
And before you try to peg me as a cuckservstive politically correct fag, let's not forget I yell nigga at the top of my lungs in my red pill videos. I just think the commenting community isn't as focused on improvement as the sub is. Can you imagine calling someone a stupid faggot loser in a court case? Lol
Edit: my comment isn't about maintaining outward appearances, its about inward comradery.
You can be king of men and lead them to greatness or king of trolls being lead into flames you can't see both sides of the coin at once.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
i call people fags regulairly and cucks and feminine bitches and tell them to suck my dick regularily. I've even said it to endorsed contributors. not banned yet.
yes. it would make the guy calling the other one names more relatable and palatable for a regular citizen, rather than a corporate fat cat out to fuck him.
that's exactly what trump did and why he won.
Dtris 5y ago
Men give each other shit. That is one of the unique aspects of male to male interaction. Men who have worked or played in male space understand this is not done in a mean or hateful way. It can be motivating but it can also be a form of recognition. If a friend comes over and smells terrible you might say"hey man you don't smell very good you might want to clean up". If your best friend does it you say"damn dude you smell like a dead skunk". A best friend knows this means you want him to take care of himself.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
I live in the same life you're living in -- I know men give eachother shit.
Of course though, we know & recognize the difference between good-natured ribs Vs. antagonistic abuse.
And like you said, it's kinda reserved for closely bonded people - anyone who called another random person stinky like a dead skunk could expect a smack in the face,.
livear 5y ago
Men insult each other but don't mean it.
Women complement each other but don't mean it.
Jampak_5000 5y ago
agree. OP is a cuck, and understands nothing about trp. For him to suggest its our own fault at the point when the sub is basically deleted is a disgrace.
hardtostarboard2016 5y ago
Not a cuck. A Soviet agent.
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TryDoingSomethingNew 5y ago
I agree wholeheartedly. It was far too much lecturing and completely misses the basic point of the western movement towards an Orwellian attempt to stifle free speech and "badthink."
Being "reasonable" and moderate has no effect on those who are, quite frankly, mentally damaged and seek to silence free thought.
History has yet to show where if a man was "just a little bit nicer" the ones attempting to crucify would allow him to go his merry way.
A lawyer of all people should know better and should be able to understand agendas.
> So how the fuck does a post bitching about Serena Williams and then a cascade of comments complaining about women in sports help me improve myself?
It's doesn't, but you've forgotten something, and aren't looking at the big picture. It's not perfect by any means and no publicly accessible forum can be.
Sometimes men just need to vent because it's a very harsh, anti-male world, and there are little to no other means of discussing things on our mind without fear of serious retribution or social consequences. This is one of those few places.
I would say the moderators generally do a pretty good job of keeping the noise out, but becoming passive and limiting free speech is not the solution. The enemy will have no mercy.
We are hated by default, no matter how "moderate" we may try to be. That's how the real world is.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
the men who win are not those who are moderate but those who are radical/those who do not compromise and move forward like a tank.
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immibis 5y ago
Maybe it wouldn't be, but regardless of that, we are letting the unreasonable people in. I saw a comment just now about how everything is controlled by Jews. How is that to do with redpill?
The OP is greatly exaggerating when he says the sub is primarily a hate group. However I do think there are sometimes problems keeping it moderated so the crazies don't get in.
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TryDoingSomethingNew 5y ago
I just can't understand why these guys don't get the very obvious anti-male propaganda being pushed.
When it's literally in your face like the TRP splash page/redirect anti-masculinity page is, how much more clear can it be?
immibis 5y ago
I never said anything about Reddit's link, I just thought the OP had a point on why redpill is often seen as misogynist.
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immibis 5y ago
I never said anything about the Bible either. Don't put words in my mouth that you pulled out of your ass, they're all shitty and it ruins the decor.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
I appreciate OP's message for the nuance carefully written in.
I don't buy into the hyperpolarized, us versus them, our shit doesn't stink versus they are evil incarnate mindset that had been on a long decline since its heyday in the 1950s but the last election brought roaring back.
It is a weak chimera of masculinity that believes gay people are against us and are legitimate targets of insults and worse. It really makes a person look like a throwback to a simpler, stupider time; and by association, those who tacitly accept it are painted with the same brush.
I am reminded of a coach I had in high school; he had the old-school mindset that HIS SPORT was the center of the universe and everything else was a trivial interruption thereof. I once approached him looking for solutions to a scheduling conflict, and he just stonewalled me with a "YOU HAVE TO EITHER TREAT THIS LIKE A PRIORITY OR NOT BOTHER" attitude. If this was supposed to motivate me, it had the opposite effect; I changed sports at the next semester and this coach literally begged me all the next year to run for the team because he had so few athletes under him by this point that they forfeited every meet.
This crisis point wasn't reached by being too PC or too nuanced in our discussion. It was reached by being too accepting of an anachronistic model of masculinity that mistakes attacking weaker foes as strength, and polarizes differences as blood enemies.
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immibis 5y ago
And we wonder why it's called a hate sub.
poohead3 5y ago
Don't forget that gays largely "reproduce" by grooming teen/pre-teen boys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur27vTcCaA8
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MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
So many faulty premises here.
A lot to unpack here, and I intend to discuss it at length in the back room while we deal with this quarantine.
gELSK 5y ago
// , He's the court jester, let him jest
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
and what makes you think modern ideas are superior to those that have survived almost unchanged (and continue to do so) for thousands of years in most parts of the world?
if homosexuality was a bunch of guys in a closet fucking each other, there would be no problem. but gays spread propaganda of their lifestyle, they make it fashionable, they make guys susceptible to trends or that do not have a firm position go with the flow and accept homosexuality as 'normal', causing them to potentially experiment themselves "because everyone is doing it". this balloons the amount of gays out of proportion. also it makes men act feminine and makes even straight males unattractive to women - something we are seeing now.
this isn't john lennon's 'imagine' that we look at 'all of mankind'. countries that have a low birthrate will not be able to sustain their standard of living or compete with other countries soon. Canada for example, will not have enough taxpayers by 2050 to fund its healthcare plan which will cause a collapse of the Canadian healthcare system. The government admits to being unprepared for this eventuality. This is only one example.
look above
all people are religious, just 'religious' in different things. some believe in God/Allah others religion is communism or 'muh democracy' or sjw-ism. it is better to 'give' society a religion that will benefit them.
it is. because men have been shown to be more tribal (in studies) and xenophobic. if a man becomes 'accepting' he is contradicting his own nature. he accepts the feminine imperative of 'cooperation' being more important rather than competition between groups.
You'd be surprised, but yes. every anti-liberal position has a philosophical and pragmatic reason for existing.
its not. it was invented by Christianity, helped it spread (because it is easier to accept everyone than to have no standards) and has now been integrated into the modern 'democratic' system.
gELSK 5y ago
// , That's a good point about Canada's declining birth rate leading to long-term financial issues. Japan is already starting to feel some of the pain from this type of thing.
What if homosexuality and these lifestyle changes are caused by the low birthrates, and not the other way around, though? This hypothesis, or the hypothesis that there is some force causing all of the above, seem just as credible.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
That is unlikely. Low birthrates came first historically and THEN we saw the rise/acceptance of homosexuality.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Philosophical and pragmatic are not the same as optimal. Most "pragmatic" explanations aren't hashing out an underlying truth that led to a given outcome, but post-hoc rationalizations that don't stand up to rigorous scrutiny or apply in broad practice.
You're broadening the definition of religion to fit your worldview, to the point where it's meaningless. By religion I mean belief systems that assume existence of a god or gods. Holding this out as a "tradition" worthy of keeping makes me unwilling to entertain your other tradition-based arguments.
"I'm against gay people because I'm genuinely scared of succumbing to their lifestyle" seems to underlie SO much anti-gay sentiment... like virtually all of it once you start digging with a psychological play shovel. Your words make it clear you don't know many gay people closely.
Another clear indicator that you haven't studied the topic of birthrate and demographics and are throwing out talking points that support your existing point of view. Education and opportunity lower birth rates, not internalized cuckoldry or a top-down conspiracy to "destroy the West."
Really can't stand the "I've got mine, Jack- screw everyone else!" brand of "conservatism" that believes its own bullshit uncritically.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Pragmatic is usually optimal. That is where the conception of 'Realpolitik' arose from.
No. "My" definition is straight from the dictionary.
a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices. In other words, a particular 'worldview' as I said before. When I say things to you, its best you listen. Argument is futile.
In other words, you are trying to do what you accuse me of, twisting the definition of a word to suit your beliefs.
The point is, religion does not need to be belief in a deity as an entity but it can be belief in a system (democracy/liberalism) as a deity with the corresponding rituals and belief systems that is accorded to an "official" religion.
I know you are an EC but you have a disappointing lack of reading comprehension. I was not talking about gays affecting me as an individual - but the millions of other frustrated boys and young men who may be frustrated with women and turn to homosexuality for companionship and sex suppressing their digust because "it is not progressive" and it is fashionable to be gay.
So what you are saying is there is NO LGBT lobby or propaganda going on in society?
Don't lie to yourself or to me either.
Right and you have?
Where did i say its the jews or a global conspiracy lowering birth rates? Stop putting words in my mouth/lying and go reread my post.
I recall saying that the falling birthrates in a country is bad because of competition with other countries and because there will be falling SoL over time as the tax base falls.
/u/MentORPHEUS I had a higher expectation of the reading comprehension and understanding of diverse topics from an EC. You disappoint me.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
By the same token, nothing makes me hang up faster than a recorded voice leading with, "Do NOT hang up the phone!"
Good day, Sir.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
And you are acting like a petulant child. Not the behavior of an EC.
I suggest you read the rest of the post, perhaps you will learn something.
Theres a reason for that phrase.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Really its disappointing how easy an EC is to manipulate. Is it because you are an American? I wonder if the same experiment would work on other nationalities? Hmmm
I am not American and so am not susceptible to the same issues. I know Americans better than they know themselves. I knew you would respond in precisely the way you did. It just proves my thesis that everyone is religious in different ways. Your religion is "muh freedom, muh democracy, dont tell me what to do!". For others its christianity/islam/communism.
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It is - when it's the most productive people who are not reproducing. The last paragraph of GLO below is perfect.
immibis 5y ago
The solution to that has nothing to do with gay people...
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immibis 5y ago
At the same time, putting tradition also above all else is also fucking stupid.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
pragmatism>tradition>liberalism.
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JimmyTwoTimez 5y ago
The tough guy approach isn't going to help the community in this situation. We don't have much leverage. If reddit feels that the main focus of TRP is talking shit on women, they are just going to ban the whole sub. They already are giving up the ad revenue, so i don't think they give a shit if we are banned. If that happens then it is a huge loss for the community. A lot of man hours and information down the drain. Best case scenario would be to buy some time until we can make the other trp site way better than it currently is. That website looks like shit. Hard to use and we cant attract new users as easily as we can on Reddit. Or we can tone down the woman hate on this sub, supplicating reddit and start funneling users from reddit trp to the other site for the more exposure.
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markinsinz7 5y ago
Ahahahahaha Swatting them shit tests like a pro u/GayLubeOil the red pill ho
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
If you moved communities you wouldn't have to compromise. You're on their reddit, on their turf.
Just like new users come here, either do as red pill rules say or banned. Their community. Their turf.
You can not one step backwards on your website, not reddits. They could pull the plug tomorrow for no reason.
JimmyTwoTimez 5y ago
Any better ideas? Bitching about the situation isn't going to help solve the problem.
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Erfbender 5y ago
Be careful not to idolize the flawed psyches you're sucking up to, it seems as though your approach to masculinity is to get loud and angry. A truly powerful man doesn't let the words or deeds of others control his emotions, or feel the need to rely on disparaging remarks to sell his argument.
gELSK 5y ago
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But seriously, don't get sucked into the Tone Police fallacy, here.
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Erfbender 5y ago
Nobody is angry? I refer you to vyrst's comments in this thread, and the fact that we literally have a part of the maturation process called the "anger phase". That's fine, but it isn't the goal.
It's fine to talk tough about social reform, but history teaches us that CIVIL disobedience works better than impotent aggression, and that you catch more flies with honey than calling them faggots
MaelMordaMacmurchada 5y ago
This man is correct, everyone knows a real man is quiet, reserved, and always cleans things up when his wife's boyfriend is finished
Erfbender 5y ago
It hadn't even occurred to me to conflate self-control with cuckoldry, because cuckoldry doesn't have a place in the thoughts of those of us who are free from perverted, emasculating fantasies. Have you got something you'd like to share with the group? Self Control was the virtue I was advocating, and its a shame GLO and his ilk neglect it.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
People get stuck in the anger phase.
PleezSitOnMyFace 5y ago
Real men are calm, cool, collected.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
is that so?
ghenghis khan would disagree when his Mongolian berserkers charge you in a wild rage
PleezSitOnMyFace 5y ago
unfortunately we cannot take what we want by brutal force and expect to get away with it for very long.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Masculinity is violent. It always has been and always will be. The point is a "real man" is violent and capable of cruelty and delivering and enduring pain. However, as you correctly noted in our modern world brute force is not favored. So you must let that violence/barbarity come out in different ways.
red_philosopher 5y ago
Where are men supposed to connect with other men who understand where they are coming from and to help guide and support them through an angry and depressing transition? Out on the street? Where communicating a countercultural social perspective can get the shit beaten out of you or worse? Talk to your priest? Find a therapist that majored in gender studies?
So the transition is vitriolic. Big deal. Reddit didn't quarantine TRP because the message isn't "nice™". Reddit quarantined TRP because it is a fucking business risk to have TRP grow larger than it is. Platforms like Reddit have a significant legal and financial interest in stopping content that could cause a user to be a danger. Reddit can be held accountable for actions taken as a result of material found on their platform. Yes it's bullshit and yes it sucks for Reddit, and that means yes, it sucks for us. Pull on your big boy pants, because guess what, the world isn't fucking nice. The world will fuck you over and over and over again for as long as you let it.
LeadVitamin13 5y ago
Well I like the ownership which is very red pill and the kill them with kindness / smile in their face while stabbing them in the back attitude.
I don't think anything not feminist/gynocentric will go over well despite the niceness of the message.
Fulltilt_Ronny 5y ago
This is the most reasonable post i have read here in the Little time ive been around. at the end of the post, i was literally cracking my Hands thinking "get ready for some pure hatred in the comments".
was not disappointed. normal conversation seems to be impossible here. if have another opinion, be prepared to get called names around here.
concerning the Topic, i dont know if you are right, but i think it would help if reddit clarifies the reason behind the "quarantine".
"offensive Content" Sound really made up. i could go to any other Sub and spam it regularly with hatespeech. what should happen is that i get banned - not that the Sub gets banned. we nee more insight here.
Erfbender 5y ago
Agree. It's not about the consequences imposed by admins that ought to matter, though. It's that people who bitch and moan about the sour grapes in their lives are awful examples of powerful men, and detract from the goals of amused mastery and mature masculinity to which we aspire.
PS2Errol 5y ago
I completely disagree with the OP.
He totally ignores the left-wing, cultural marxism that is currently taking place and which is trying to suppress all non-mainstream thought and any 'irregular' discussion.
In any event, there is nothing criminal or wrong in being an extremist. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. You either have it or you don't. There is no half-way house.
TryDoingSomethingNew 5y ago
Yes, I just posted a similar comment. It's very obvious where we're headed. I knew it when it started in the 1990s.
rebelde_sin_causa 5y ago
You lost me at Christian fundamentalists hate the poor. If you've become convinced of that then you've become convinced of all manner of echo chamber horseshit.
immibis 5y ago
Googling it only brings up "Christians twice as likely to blame a person's poverty on lack of effort"... which is exactly what redpill is about anyway! Lol.
Vyrst 5y ago
YOU'RE. A complete fucking Clueless Loser. Fucking Delete your internet. I Never want to see some Autism Soybitch Retard Post from your dumb ass ever again. Fuck yourself
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
Lmfao this comment is retarded but funny
Luffysstrawhat 5y ago
Long time lurker here. This is the single gayest blue pill solution I've read in regards to the quarantine. Shame on you sir
Auvergnat 5y ago
I used to think like you after a couple years on TRP. Then I understood why the mods never acted to tone down the anger. The very idea to "tone down" a message to suit the palate of the more easily offended is exactly how the feminine takes hold in a male space. From there it's all downwards.
Male spaces like the locker room, the old pub, or the fishing boat don't have a tone police. There's an all-powerful authority (mods) establishing laws to abide (rules) and organizing a hierarchy based on merit or might (ECs), and then it's free masculine expression within that context to allow the enterprise going full steam ahead fueled by testosterone. And if someone breaks the rules, disrespect the hierarchy, or undermine the authority, he'll get a beating (ban). And that guy in the locker room who's telling the others to tone it down and stop talking about "grabbing by the pussy" because it could be offending to some? He'll get a beating to learn his lesson to stop being such a pussy.
You want to see what happens when people start enforcing "toning it down" so as not to offend specific people? Look around you at that fucked-up western world. That's what you get.
flashbyquick 5y ago
But there definitely is a "tone police," you pretty much described it yourself. The tone must be X or else you 'get a beating,' or a ban, like you say. I'm not saying that's for better or worse but it does cut through your argument that there isn't policing going on.
Auvergnat 5y ago
Policing: "The rules are X. Infraction to the rules result in Y"
Tone policing: "You should not say things in such way X, but rather in way Y.
Get the difference? That's why TRP can have a set of rules (policing) that includes "No concern trolling" (tone policing) without being self-contradictory.
flashbyquick 5y ago
I don't see a difference, and don't see that you see a difference either. You're saying tone policing is a subcategory of policing, not that they are different.
Auvergnat 5y ago
Look I have better things to do in life than trying to bring up arguments to convince a random guy on the internet that his perception of a contradiction in the rules of a subreddit is due to different perspectives on semantics. You're welcome to go write an official letter of complaint to the mods.
RobotAntidote 5y ago
I think your two posts together perfectly illustrate how to play the game - or both sides of the game. It's the same debate with liberals and conservatives, it's the two forces guiding our think. In the end what really matters, is the now, explaining the past is a fool's game.
daffy_duck233 5y ago
You just pointed out where he went wrong with this post. Thank you.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Yup, it's a necessary evil.
Besides, we have garbage bins full of actual hate speech and other nonsense (((rants))).
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Rian_Stone 5y ago
oh, and circling back, you're bang on with the focus part, unfortunately, with 300 000 spergs who don't know any better, and maybe 200 guys with half a clue, this is about the best signal to noise ratio you can expect.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
You can't say its locker room antics because even on teams, top shooters get roasted. We aren't that tightly knit, not to mention. the double standard on "dont harass members," rule. Attack the ideas not the person, unless you have flair then call everyone a fag.
You can't say there's no tone police, the have a rule that dictates the tone. I Interpertet that rule as an invitation for intellectual and philosophical discussion, but others see it as "lol ur a fuckin fag"
If people with flairs aren't fair game, it's not locker room fun. It becomes militaristic, which is a fine method of teaching but not my cup of tea.
When guys in the locker room call eachother fags with smiles, it's funny fun and games. It's all fine.
Here however you're suggesting is "lay down and take the Insults we give you."
There's a difference between ur a faggot in the locker room manner you suggest, and ur a faggot in the "you suck I'm better than your worthless ass," we see here on the red pill. My mates used to roast each other all the time before wed play hockey together.
My experience playing hockey and that type of masculine environment Vs. This are 2 totally different things.
"Stop being such a pussy" is true advice- being called that shouldn't affect anyone. However I'm a man and my patience thins.
I already outgrew being called a stupid faggot or other names by internet randoms. Xbox 360 era kid reporting in. It's not worth the mental energy. Get blocked. Just like in real life, you can call me an idiot fine, I just won't speak with you anymore l
I always saw this place is more of an online philosophical college auditorium speaking forum rather than a locker room anyways but I guess I've been looking at it the wrong way the whole time...
Keep the locker room antics, ditch the misanthropic spirit
JamesSkepp 5y ago
They are, using arguments. If you think fair game should pertain to the freedom to call anyone a fag, you're missing the point of TRP. Insults don't make people grow, they are not an incentive to understand other viewpoint, on the contrary, they alienate ("he called ma a fag, he has no arguments, i can dismiss his opinion and dismiss him for being immature") and antagonize (self explanatory).
Didn't really noticed that coming from EC in any meaningful amount. From the non-flaired users tho, on the contrary - namecalling is basically one of their tools in online discourse.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
Dude, James, everything you said in your first paragraph, I agree with.
However, I'm surprised you missed it. I can't go on a. day without seeing someone with flair call someone a hopeless idiot, among other things. Seeing that encourages pointers and normies to do the same, which results in "discipline". Especuslly this one : ec love to call other people faggots, but if someone questions the ideas of another ec. Bring on the ad hom.
Not all of course, but enough to where I have to say "not all".
Trp isn't a locker room anymore. It's a community. But yes, your entire first paragraph, is exactly what I was trying to say. I'm glad we agree and understand.
The police badge doesn't mean "above the law" it means "will enforce the law, lawfully" . I think EC should mean the same thing.
And if you bring up some fact about how police are actually above the law... save it. That's exactly why I dispise police, and other "rules / forms of control."
A man is allowed to have a vision of the world, and mine is where badge means enforcer. Rules are enforced. Not stepped around through gray area.
Call me cynical, but I should be able to call people fags - so long as the virtue of truth is behind it. Attack the idea not the person. Hate the sin not the sinner.
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Rian_Stone 5y ago
it's good james is in this one. ever know how he got his flair?
neoreactionsafe, one of the OG flaired users here started going off the rails, talking about the juice and the torah. James was relentless, jumped on him at every opportunity.
James was mean, and harsh, but he was right, and neo got the boot, james got the flair.
I wouldn't dream of equating that to some edgelord calling flaired users fags just because
granted, you have a point, we've all had our share of calling some kid a 'hopeless faggot'. difference being, that slack one gets is a perk of being a solid contributor.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
Why did both you and James interpret that from what I said? I literally wrote an entire essay on why a community built on controlled intellectual discourse is superior to low brow name calling.
Maybe it's my fault as a communicator, but I always feel misunderstood. Glo calls me a blue pilled GDQ conservative egalitarian, when I literally say "men and women are not equal." Or like, "I believe murder is an alpha behavior." Or even "police are just monkeys in suits. Like doctors. Take everything with a grain of salt."
That seriously can't be my fault, right? Wtf?
Like I said, I see plenty of meaningless insults flung around, like big angry man children.
I tuned into the donovan Sharpe show recently, an episode where he featured rollo tomassi. The topic was supposed to be about "why there's no such thing as red pilled women."
What actually happened on the show is a caller and donovan got into a disagreement that evolved into a 30 minute long shouting match, where everything was fair game. Family, personal life, all insults and name calling. Even rollo kinda got involved. Not bashing them, I respect them both, but like I keep saying really unprofessional.
It reminded me of when I was a kid, and i used to prank call blog talk radio broadcasts with my buddies from 4chan, and we would make the radio hosts go into a flying rage and derail the show.
Needless to say, the actual topic was not discussed.
This is a common problem in the manosphere.
Interesting story about James though. I love trivia. (Not sarcasm).
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Lol, yeah, Donovan and I have talked about his temper and baitability before. Even when Kitten holliday baited him into raging on her, I tried to warn him, it was clearly playing the victim to make him look bad.
He's been making some progress though, but damn did you nail it.
poohead3 5y ago
What exactly do you mean by "going off the rails?" Was he exto-posting or something? I know GLO is J-woke, and he's like the top guy in here.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Blaming the (((juice))) for everything, and completely avoiding the topic of male sexual strategy. I think what james called him on was how nonsensical it was, often.
Plus, most of the anti-juice on here are just edgy jewish kids pissing of square jewish kids. At least the ones who I've seen doing so. Most everyone else isn't worried about nazis so much, especially since we all stomped em good 70 years ago
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Vyrst 5y ago
Yeah because you're a clueless reject idiot like OP. why are you here? don't you have some girlfriends dick to take in your ass
Erfbender 5y ago
Wow if vitriol had benefits beside making your dick hard you might actually contribute something to the community. Claiming a monopoly on value judgements doesn't make you cool, it makes people draw comparisons between you and the sort of argumentative highschooler that had no friends