If you follow the sidebar advice about lifting and raising SMV, as well as apply basic picture-taking advice, then eventually you will start getting a ton of matches via online apps. Your issue will then shift from getting matches in the first place to filtering for who is actually interested.
What I hate more than anything is being some chick's backup option or meeting a girl with "meh" interest level. I find it much more difficult to bang these girls, and the dates usually aren't that much fun, either. The best and easiest sex is with girls who are truly excited to meet and fuck you.
One simple interest gauge that I use is the call to action. Not only does it filter for compliance, but it can also spark what is known as the "Ben Franklin effect".
My own bio includes the following:
Tell me a fun fact.
That's it. If she sends some generic message like "hello" and ignores my call to action, that's usually a good sign that the interaction won't go anywhere. She either doesn't care that much about impressing me or is too stupid to think of a fun fact. I don't have patience for dumb broads like this.
On the other hand, if she actually does tell me a fun fact, it shows a minimal level of investment and compliance. If she's interested enough to engage the higher-order cognitive process necessary to conjure a "fun fact," then you know that your chances of passing through the three remaining resistance barriers (phone number, date, intimacy) are fairly high.
Of course, the call to action should ideally reflect some quality that you value. I prefer girls with a modicum of intelligence, so the fun fact shtick works well for me. If you want fit chicks, try something like "how much do you squat?" If you want adventurous girls, "favorite travel spot" could work.
Moreover, the very act of doing you this "favor" can actually cause her to like you more. People don't do favors for people that they like; rather, they like them because they do favors for them.
Benjamin Franklin, himself an apex Alpha/legendary chick magnet, noted this phenomenon over 200 years ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Franklin_effect
With sites such as Tinder, you will still be expected to open most of the time, so this advice isn't as useful there. Still, I have a nearly 100% track record of success with girls who do open me, so take that for what it's worth.
On Bumble, though, where women have to send the first message, the call to action is much more relevant as a filter. Ironically, the app that markets itself as women-centric is actually the best tool for high value men to determine who is serious about meeting. Typically girls on Bumble are only going to open their top prospects, and you can use compliance as a secondary test for seriousness.
Frich3 5y ago
I've always considered the Brad Pitt rule something to live by when it comes to women. I don't by any means see myself as a Brad Pitt or Justin Bieber, however if you think about it, it kind of makes sense. Ask yourself how would she treat you if you were that caliber of a man. I know I will hear "dude not everyone is brad pitt" blah blah blah, but the truth is that it comes to a certain point where if someone's interest level is high enough, they will do whatever it is they are willing to do with Brad Pitt, with the next best thing at the bars or out at a club. My point is is that if she's interested enough, she won't go through a series of games and making you "earn" shit from her. Maybe a bit of last minute resistance to make you think she doesn't/wouldn't do this often. But other than that, no games to be played.
Moral of the story: If she wants you bad enough, women know EXACTLY how to get laid. Plain and simple. It's not rocket science and life is too short to spend time thinking about "well maybe if I wouldve said this then she wouldve responded like this, which would have given me X percent chance more of fucking her". Just my experience.
dropit_reborn 5y ago
I know this is late, but back when "pickup" was the catchall for rp stuff, I remember seeing a post titled "The Musical Standard," wherein the author set as his premise: "I refuse to be held to any standard that Mick Jagger (or whoever) gets a free pass on. Dating young? A harem? If Mick can get away with it, who the hell are you to refuse it to me?"
It's not so much something you demand of society, but more something you demand of yourself: to refuse to stop working until you hit that point.
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
Exactly; that's the principle behind this post. u/mallardcove 's recent " You're not her top option" - one of the most important essays ever written on this sub IMO - really gets to the heart of what the Brad Pitt Rule is about. The problem is that most guys, even here on this sub, have never been a girl's top option, so they don't have any frame of reference whatsoever.
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TheOneWhoDidntCum 5y ago
Does Brad Pitt use the Brad Pitt rule?
freshona 5y ago
No, he follows George Clooney rule.
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TheOneWhoDidntCum 5y ago
Someone stole my name and i had to shorten it , thanks jerk!
ROTHSCHILD_GOON_1913 5y ago
actually a pretty good idea, thanks
tayowsp 5y ago
Sightly related, but how to handle women that do this? E.g. when they have stuff like "say something funny" or "don't be boring" in their bios. Or "tell me why you're different from all other men". I've seen shit like this a lot on Tinder
superyute 5y ago
don't give value to shit like this. that's you playing into their frame. Just pretend as if it wasn't there.
the only things you should seek out in girls bios are logistical shit, then proceed how YOU want.
Remember, this is all about you. Your show. She's either with it or not
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
Ignore the obvious shit tests.
I remember reading a Reddit post awhile back about a girl who had "no military and no tattoos" in her bio. Goes and messages some Chad about how hot he is. Guy responds with something to the effect of "I love your direct approach, but just so you know I'm ex-military and have multiple tattoos." She doesn't even acknowledge...merely responds "ok, when are we meeting up?"
Obviously an extreme case, but the general idea holds. Usually I do try to reference something in her pics/bio, but my response rate to "hey there" isn't much lower than a more thought out message. All depends on how hawt she thinks you are.
At the end of the day, though, I avoid girls who are blatantly abrasive (e.g. don't be boring). Even when I win by getting them to meet, I still lose because they're no better in real life. Ain't nobody got time for negative hoes
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She'll break the rules for alphas.
swordshab 5y ago
Make a fake tinder with chad pics and you’ll see why it’s a waste of time unless you’re a 8-10 in looks
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[deleted] 5y ago
If you're a 5 right now, go to the gym and get a good v-taper. Take quality photos and you'll be a 7-10 on tinder.
novalentineforyou 5y ago
Also, get an expensive haircut (ask a lesbian friend for advice) and go to a dermatologist if you have any skin problems or acne.
swordshab 5y ago
You can’t grow height though. You have to be taller than 6’
antariusz 5y ago
Oh really? Where on tinder do you have to put what height you are?
Being attracted, in person, absolutely does depend upon your height.
But every guy can be 6’ “online”
An ideal profile she’d know you’re attractive, and there is no reason for her to know how tall you are. If you’ve got a 6 pack, how can she see how tall you are in a shirtless bathroom selfie.
[deleted] 5y ago
I'm not 6'. I'm much shorter. Height is just one aspect of a person's game. Learn something else that will differentiate you from the taller guys.
The game is all about figuring out how to overcome your disadvantages.
heronmarkedblade1984 5y ago
Bullshit, I'm short for a male at 5'6" but I tower over my gymbro whos 5'2" .... but he brings in more pussy than hugh Hefner. He's built like a tank, thick neck, shaved head, with shoulders an axe handle across... hes also funny and one of the most confident dudes I know. Dont let being short stop you from whatever you want.
swordshab 5y ago
He won’t succeed in dating apps where it’s based solely on looks
PMmepicsofyourtits 5y ago
Then you frame the photos like they do for Tom Cruise, dipshit!
heronmarkedblade1984 5y ago
Ok, so shift fire. If you know that you have a weakness then play your strengths. Think militarily, you dont fight an opponent in areas where hes strong, you play to your strengths. If your face looks like it was attacked my 100 midgets with ball peen hammers, then you need to be well read, in great shape, and funny. If you are a 9/10 in the looks department but your dumber than a box of biscuits your going to have a different strategy, same as if you bring in 24 grand a year and live with 2 roommates.... each of these guys have their own problems and each is going to have slightly different plans of attack.
PepinoSF 5y ago
In the good old days of telephone internet and IRC, almost every one exchange of photographs and eventually date in the real life ended up with a slay.
Because only top tier man had access to internet flowing the preselection rules women wasn't terribly picky and doubtful. Nowadays every jerk has access to internet and this results in 1% in DATING success (not FUCKING success)