TL;DR -- Friend joined a sex cult for a 10 day camp getaway trip. Had sex with several different women, and he now feels like a good of some sort.
Last night, I attended my usual Toastmasters meeting. Heard a couple of newcomers step up to the table, and give their speeches as usual.
Once we got to the last speech, a guy Roger (fake name) went into this presentation about his camping experience with the "New Culture Movement." As he went on to explain his deposition of his experience at a 10 day camp, he talks about how 80 people in attendance were open to breaking social norms and being open about sex. He goes on the explain, the basic norm and all this place asks for is for you to ask where you can touch, and how far you can go.
"Can I give you a massage? Can I touch your face? Can I caress your boobs?" you know the rest...
Cuddle parties, swimming pools, sex workshops, workshops on masturbation, you name it. While he is sharing all of this with me, I couldn't escape the fact that, "maybe women with a lower SMV" would consider attending what sounds like a sex cult party from eyes wide shut.
While we were sitting down over dinner, I asked him to show me a handful of what the ladies looked like. He friended a few on Facebook, and unbeknownst to me, a few of the ladies appeared to be unattractive. We're talking HB6 and at best HB7.
As a Nigerian man who almost ended up being the token black man, he has an affliction in understanding race dynamics here in the US. Dating a white woman is like eating the forbidden fruit, and it doesn't matter if she is attractive or not... as long as she is white, she is "beautiful." So of course he ends up hooking up with a couple of different women, and I couldn't help but think, "how does he view sex now since coming back from this 10 day sexscapade."
Its distorted. His entire perception is people who we see at work, school, gym, and anywhere else, all put on a front. We're all acting with a filter because we want to be accepted in whatever environment, but we still want free will to do as we please.
His perception towards sex has officially changed. He believes now, he has a greater chance than ever at hooking up with someone he meets in public. Between the exhibitionist, and the masturbation workshops, I still see Roger as the same desperate person.
No matter the case, even if you hook up with 500 women in one weekend, I still find attending a sex cult getaway as a dangerous premise away from reality. Instead of adding value to your life, you have no succumbed yourself to hooking up with random women for the sake of creating a "new society."
At one point I even asked, "can I come?" I had to collect and think, is this a buffer? How frequently on a day to day basis would I get the chance to attend a cuddle party? I couldn't help but think, this is more of a detriment towards his own masculinity, than thinking its this easy to hookup with someone.
Again, as expected, no woman with decent quality and different plates in rotation is going to get up one morning and join a sex cult (or maybe), I digress.
[deleted] 5y ago
At one point I even asked, "can I come?"
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Stop being a fucking bitch, this guy got laid over the weekend and you're being a little bitch about his success. what the fuck is this point about...This a subreddit about getting laid.
The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
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Don't shame others, that's not masculine.
It's his journey, not yours.
clavabot 5y ago
Off topic how would I join a sex cult btw
DavidEagle68 5y ago
Google the title, and go from there. You might end up like Tom cruise though
clavabot 5y ago
Time to go all batman on this bitch
gELSK 5y ago
// , I agree with the rest of the comments that your take on it seems a bit more negative than warranted by the facts you've brought up, but perhaps there's something more that you haven't told us.
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And anyway, it's an interesting story. I'm impressed with your friend's courage to bring that up in a speech to a Toast-Master group, and I hope things turn out well for him.
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I've had a few Sudanese and Nigerian friends over the years, and they have always given me the impression of quiet honesty and determination. I agree with you that, being from another country, they are often unaware of just how strange the race dynamics are in the USA.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
The cute ones he puts on Facebook are not the ones he fucked.
In any scenario that looks like "easy sex for betas" (sex clubs, BDSM parties, new age hippie whatever) the women are always fat, old, unattractive or unattainable.
There are no shortcuts.
DavidEagle68 5y ago
I think this was my point. One of the girls he showed me WAS fat, chubby, big boobs, and hardly had any teeth. So yea, there really aren't any short points. I didn't know how to word it properly.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
oh jeez... and you probably still saw the best ones...
j_arbuckle2012 5y ago
QFT.
Better to be the guy that expands the sexuality of his girl(s) by introducing them to all that than it is to use it as a shortcut.
mattizie 5y ago
Now I feel like an old man. Society is going down the toilet.
This bit here is a real gem:
Yes, because part of being
an adulthuman, is having self control and not just doing what feels good in the moment, especially if it is detrimental to the future.I'm curious why your Nigerian friend is in your country, rather than in Nigeria.
[deleted] 5y ago
Lol are you serious? People are always in different countries. It's 2018 not 1600
mattizie 5y ago
Holy fuck. Everything from [current year], to the exact date of 1600!
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/061/588/5e2.png
[deleted] 5y ago
not sure your point, you just asked why his nigerian friend is in a different country. That's the dumbest question I have ever heard regarding something that doesn't pertain to immigration or countries
mattizie 5y ago
Why?
I get asked all the time why I (as a westerner) am living in China.
[deleted] 5y ago
HB6’s and 7s unattractive? WTF?
Dawnguards 5y ago
At the least sex cult is to promote dishonesty, diseases and to promote women entitlement which they already have too much.
Prison4SideofBeef 5y ago
This is some degenerate shit. Stay the hell away from these loons unless you want STDs and endless #metoo accusations coming your way.
AshyLarry27 5y ago
While there are dangers to these things (STD's, #MeToo highjakers, ect), the way he came out of it is the way you want most men to come out of it. Most guys go from one girl to just another girl. It's really only college where most guys have that chance to sleep around with a couple of women in a set period of time. Sleeping around is that first nip of realizing women are just women, there are no unicorns. Sex with multiple women shows you that reality that people and things are expendable. You can get tired of anything. The only reason men fall victim to one-itis is because they have to work for their options. If they are going through a lot and are dating someone, they feel "comfortable" again because no work is needed to put in for sex or affection at this time. Men typically want to cling to whatever woman is still offering him sex and affection in that moment, so that woman becomes his world.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
You're going to have to clarify. I don't imagine HB7s at a sex cult.
http://i.imgur.com/EsOwgTg.jpg
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
That’s a terrible chart imo.
[deleted] 5y ago
it's always bad when you consider yourself a 1 jesus lol
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
As a side note, the rankings in that image are highly subjective and some make no sense, while others are simply girls of different categories wearing more or less makeup.
But you get the idea.
BlackendLight 5y ago
I kind of wonder why it's so subjective. What makes different types of appearance styles more or less attractive to different people?
[deleted] 5y ago
When I look, i thought "Hey, these 7's are better than those 9's...."
I always made a mental panorama where 5-6 whore worse than what is representing there.
max_peenor 5y ago
They've turned into softcore porn readings?
Anyway, this is what happens when they see the wall is looming or their hit the light switch in their marriage. I know these women. I've fucked some of them in front of crowds. They are all saying the same thing, "See! Many men still want to fuck me! I'm wanted!" Use as a semen receptacle and move on.
caneyfan 5y ago
What in the hell did I just read?
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Ill_Will7 5y ago
Whats the difference between a 10 day sex trip and a 10 day vacation to hawaii?
You go to escape the stress and monotony of your life for a time. Look for opportunities to do different things that you couldn't normally do. Participate in activities that is only offered at this unique location. Meet some new people. Look for new ass.
Sounds like your confused. If this 10day sex romp helped him build confidence and learn more about the true nature of humans and by extension himself, then by all means.
Nocryingok 5y ago
I don't think me or you can understand what this experience was for him unless we go through it, like he did. If it works for him (having confidence is half the battle), then I think this could be worth it.
None of us experiences reality. If we did, we would be so overloaded that we wouldn't be able to do basic human activities (imagine seeing every atom and feeling every soundwave? seeing light as it is, and understanding the reasoning behind everything people do? Being somewhat delusional is necessary and very helpful, if the recipe is correct
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justtenofusinhere 5y ago
Read the accounts, there are absolutely parties where large groups of gorgeous women show up to be used by a small cadre of rich, famous and powerful men in the hopes it might somehow benefit them.
So yes, all women will do this, no not all women will do this for any men.
As for your friend, if he's getting better strange than he thought possible, good for him. If you're on a higher plane, good for you, don't shit on his progress just because you're ahead.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
TBH you sound butthurt. Your black bro had fun during weekend, fucked some bitches. Bitches consented to coal burning so they're fine too.
I don't exactly understand what's the difference between that "new cult sex movement" and my life, as I date various women at once and whenever I feel like fucking 2 different girls on an evening, I have no problem with that.
I don't exactly understand what's the point of this post. You sound like you're virtue signalling. In a situation when your friend gets some strange and you don't, honestly - unless you post your picture with a six-pack abs, you have no right to virtue signal in my book.
For 10 days this WAS his reality. Throw away blue pill goggles and grow up.
Nighthawk_Black_ 5y ago
Yeah sounds like his friend had a great time and gained some confidence.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
I’d also smash for 10 days if I was in his friend’s position
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