I've known about body language since I was about 16 years old. I'm 25 now. I was heavy into it for about 2 years and then my interest waned because life. When the concept first entered my sphere of awareness, I was in 10th grade and had just been introduced to David DeAngelo with DYD. Worst thing to ever happen to me, but that's a topic for another post.
I remember reading "Stand straight with your chest out, shoulders back." I walked around high school for the next 2 years looking like I was consistently holding in a massive shit whilst simultaneously looking like a massive try hard doing it. Haha. I would've laughed at myself so badly. Over the years as I've learned more and more, I've tweaked my game, toned down the intensity of some actions and really refined others. One of the things I've really refined is my general posture.
About a week ago I was in the bathroom and was checking myself out (Yes. Really.) and thought to myself, "Is my SMV really that low that my body language game doesn't even move the needle?" I'm pretty good looking and I still never get checked out as much as a feel I deserve. Then I did something I've never done before. I checked my posture out from the side in the mirror.
It was the stupidest, simplest thing and I've been kicking myself since about why I never did it sooner. I had never realized, but over the past few years, instead of that doofy high school posture it had morphed into a posture that, overall was decent, but somewhere along the line I had started leaning back 10/15 degrees too far and I had never noticed it. I looked like this guy but slightly worse. I Couldn't believe I had been standing like this guy for the past 3 years. No wonder I had awful lower back, leg and foot pain. Jesus.
Been standing much better for the past week and, combined with my new eye contact game that I've been seriously working on, my IOI's are reaching something like a 75% success rate with girls I make eye contact with. My peripheral vision is excellent and I'm blown away with how many women are checking me out when I'm not looking, and super submissive when we do make eye contact.
It seems so small and insignificant, but the results are blowing me away. Sometimes the smallest tweak to your game can yield massive results. Good Luck fellas.
Loveembodied 5y ago
Too far back is too coy for most women's taste as is too far forward as it wreaks of desperation and neediness. Right in the middle, relaxed upon your spine and well grounded. This is what women love posture wise.
Gr0o0vy 5y ago
"He increased girl success rate to 75% using ONE WEIRD TRICK. (PUA hate him!)"
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
I read that as "I've known about body language since I was about 26yrs old. I'm 25 now." On that note, time to get the fluck off of Reddit.
SimilarHamster 5y ago
Maybe we went to the same school because I remember someone walking around like they had a flagpole up there butt.
arcwhy 5y ago
Quick tip to align your upper trunk: when standing, raise both arms above your head (like you’re doing the wave).
Bring your arms down without releasing your shoulders (ie: just arms move down).
Your shoulders and upper trunk will now be in correct alignment and you’ll feel it.
Try it! Don’t be discouraged if you can’t do it for more than a few mins at a time
jasondougies 5y ago
sorry can you clarify? i still dont understand
arcwhy 5y ago
Stand up in a normal stance. Feet shoulder width apart. Hands flat and open at your sides.
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raise your hands above your head... (you should feel like your shoulder blades tighten)...
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keeping hands flat, and open, bring them down in front of you like (like the wand exercise:flexion ** but down not up **) to the original position
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Don't let your shoulders drop... just your arms. your shoulders will be pinned in the correct position, and your body is aligned properly.
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savvy?
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jasondougies 5y ago
this is what i did when i first read the post before the comment but it feels like im pinching my shoulder blades together once i bring them down in front of me, and like OP it doesnt feel natural. and plus i genetically have bigger traps so it feels that im flexing my traps the entire time lol...
arcwhy 5y ago
Sooo what you’re actually saying is... that you aren’t sure if you’re doing a new posture exercise correct because your shoulders are engaged differently than how you normally have them? Is that what you meant to say?
I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear that your shoulders SHOULD feel pinned/pinched because you are activating them and it will feel awkward/different.
Practice makes perfect. .. pm me if you want more help.
cowb3llf3v3r 5y ago
Just tried this. It works! Good tip.
Jake_le_Dog 5y ago
It certainly helps your posture if you train for strength a lot, especially with a barbell.
There was a time when I didn't feel like I "deserved" attention, not enough gains yet, but I'd have women literally everywhere sneak into my vicinity. Like when you're shopping for groceries and you know she's only looking at that can of beans because you were picking from the items next to them. Or when you're waiting for the train and there's a long way to the end of the platform yet somehow she either stops to wait just before you or a little after you. - can of beans girl, it was a funny opening opportunity, later a good inside joke
I was getting these before I could say I looked good (let's just say better than average perhaps). And it was a combination of immensely better posture and persistent eye contact at the same time, the results were immediate.
What really changed my posture at first was just innate, look everyone in the eye, stay up straight. But what took it to a further level, making it a comfortable, later on completely natural thing, was barbell strength training and the understanding of biomechanics surrounding it.
It's just another reason to get/keep lifting. There's just no other substitute to strength training. You can only lift atlas stones for all I care, it will still teach you proper posture, and ingrain it into your supportive musculature.
Zoddo 5y ago
After sitting down for long periods of time sometimes I'll stand up flat against a wall for a second or two to check my posture. It's fairly easy to do, you just gotta make sure your ass, upper back, and head are touching the wall. I'll even do this before a deadlift if I feel my posture is off that day.
The first time I did this I was shocked at just how much my head was hanging forward.
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badgerninjacow 5y ago
Look up anterior pelvic tilt. I used to stand the same way you do and it was fucking up my back and making me look fat from the front.
420KUSHBUSH 5y ago
Foam roller definitely helps fix it along with a few other exercises I forgot
LiftMeditateApproach 5y ago
wow... you went from 3/10 to a 10/10 chad by standing straight... in 1 week.....amazing... please write more
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
....please don't..... write... like this.... we're not.... in the telegraph.... era.... anymore...
LiftMeditateApproach 5y ago
thats funny... because the country that you came here from still uses telegraphs... and cant figure out how to build toilets for people... take the poo to the loo... buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll0GCPFpNQs
Anonymous-O 5y ago
But how many has he f-close? That is the question.
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
If you have to consciously put your shoulders and tilt your head back, you're doing it wrong.
It's really simple, just press the back of the tongue in the roof of the mouth, in the lower palate to be more specific, and let your head float back.
cowb3llf3v3r 5y ago
Sometimes the best thing you can do is have a third person give you an honest evaluation. Or have somebody video you. You noticed the posture in the mirror, but there’s a ton of things you could be doing that you don’t realize. I noticed in videos that I was in that I hold my hands in weird positions.
elcremero 5y ago
Anyone got good routines for correcting anterior pelvic tilt or forward head posture?
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
So... you basically never had a good posture to begin with...?
Kidding aside, that's the way it works. My first reduction, my first set of training, my first PT, my first moments I decided my posture needs correction... yes, that's how it works. Often a 2-week hiatus could brings more inspiration, than a 3 days/week of gym. The ability to discern when you need what comes with time too.
Throwawaysteve123456 5y ago
From looking at the diagram, your ab muscles are weak. Strengthen them.