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Summary: A huge number of women under 25 who are slutty and women over 25 who aren’t married yet suffer from anxiety or depression. Learning about mental illness in general and how these women’s minds work can help with your game. Also, don’t get married. There’s a good chance she’s mentally ill and will burn the shit out of you.

Somewhere between 1 in 3 and 1 in 5 people are said to struggle with mental illness. This is in part due to the expanding array of mental illnesses and the expanding definition of what constitutes a mental illness, but whatever we do or do not think ought to count as a legitimate mental illness, a lot of people are fucked in the head sufficiently enough that it affects their daily lives.

If you look at the stats, women are significantly more likely than men to suffer from mental illness. Depression in women is diagnosed about 1.5 times as often as men, anxiety even more often, and women are twice as likely to develop PTSD after a traumatic or stressful life experience. Hormones play a role in this – estrogen makes people emotional and suppresses serotonin production, which makes women more susceptible to depression and anxiety than men. Not to mention all of the fluctuations and crazy crap that happens to a woman’s body during pregnancy, menstruation, or taking hormone pills every day that keep her from getting pregnant.

Women are tornados of emotion compared to men, and in modern society, when everybody posts pictures of their happy families and lavish vacations on social media, an emotional social media addict (e.g., any first world woman born after 1985) whose life is less than perfect (like any human being) might start to feel inadequate and insecure, anxious and depressed, and start to act to mitigate these feelings by seeking validation. Validation often takes the form of pursuing male attention, such as via casual sex.

People often declare that “game” and “The Red Pill” are predatory tactics that target, and only work on, anxious, insecure, mentally ill women. While that declaration is up for debate, I would counter that learning how to game women and play on their anxieties is the only option when 1 in 3 women are mentally ill. In fact, the majority of women you meet today may well be mentally ill.

“Normal” women, who lack any form of mental illness and practice normal methods of attachment to form secure relationships with normal guys have boyfriends their entire lives and get married in their early to mid 20s. You’re not going to meet them in a bar or see them on Tinder, and they’re not going out twice a month on girls’ nights to get drunk and see if guys hit on them.

If you’re a guy in his mid to late 20s, or even in his 30s and 40s, who recently got divorced or got out of a bad relationship, or just haven’t been successful with sex or relationships for most of your life, you’re not going to find a stable, normal 22-25 year old who wants to have a good relationship with you. She has a serious boyfriend or is already married and not looking to cheat on her husband.

The overwhelming majority of women you meet will fall into one of two categories: 1) Women under 25 who are slutty; and 2) Women over 25 who aren’t married yet (and are slutty but try to make guys jump through more hoops for sex than they used to).

Out of all women, these subsets of women have the highest likelihood of mental illness. A non-mentally ill woman who practices normal methods of attachment to form secure relationships has boyfriends most of her youth instead of being slutty in her 20s, and is typically married by 25 or at least has a serious boyfriend on the path to marriage. The remaining women - women who are slutty in their early 20s and unmarried in their late 20s (and 30s) have the highest incidences of depression and anxiety.

Normal methods of attachment to form secure relationships don’t work when you’re dealing with a woman with anxiety or depression. Things will be okay at first, but eventually, she’ll self-destruct and burn you. I don’t need to elaborate too much on that. Half of the guys reading this are nodding right now and could tell some crazy stories.

This is where game comes into play. Outcome independence, acting aloof, practicing push-pull techniques, putting women on an emotional roller coaster where you love them one day but wouldn’t care if they left the next day – that excites the hell out of an anxious woman. And odds are that if you’re meeting a woman who’s not married or involved with a serious boyfriend, she falls into the under 25 and slutty or over 25 and unmarried (and slutty) categories. Diagnosed or not, there’s a pretty significant chance you’re dealing with somebody who has at least mild anxiety and/or depression.

Learning how to toy with a woman’s anxieties is pretty essential when the majority of the women you meet are mentally ill. Instead of running from crazy, research it. A huge number of women you encounter are going to be mentally ill. It would be silly not to arm yourself with knowledge about the topic. Learn how to identify signs of depression, anxiety, OCD, and BPD (especially that one – run like hell from BPD). Learn what words and behaviors can trigger depression or mania, what words spike anxiety and what words quell it. Learn how to deal with mental illness, and you’ll start to notice patterns and ways to get anxiety-ridden women into bed and keep them coming back when they start to turn on you.

And most important of all, don’t get married. A disproportionate number of women you meet are going to be fucked in the head. That doesn’t mean they can’t be fun, you can’t be good to them, they can’t be good to you, and you can’t both enjoy each other tremendously. But giving a mentally ill woman power over you is catastrophic.

[-] Dorkan 97 Points 3 months ago

Just be careful of the backlash you can have when you stop seeing/dating them: their obsesion and anxiety can drive them crazy and try to hurt you in any way they can (even though you trusted them, treated them well, didnt lie to them, didn't betray them, etc) No matter how well you treat them in every way the "run away from crazy" thing is in a big part not just to not lose time, but because of the effects later on it can have to your life might not be worth the enjoyment you got from them. I don't say don't do it ever, I just say be careful.

**Be careful SPECIALLY if they are in some of your social circles some including: friendships, work, hobbies, passions.. relationships and reputation you have built during a long time can be destroyed quickly, seting you back on your way to bigger goals and happiness.

In TRP we've heard stories of girls even assaulting, making false legal acusations, and breaking condoms just as part of their mental problems. All contributing to the "run away from crazy" statement.

[-] CainPrice 47 Points 3 months ago

In general, it's a good practice to avoid social circle game. Have casual sex and relationships (if desired) with women outside of your social circle, work, hobby groups, etc.

When casual sex or the end of a relationship with a woman can affect her socially, she'll burn you. When you're a completely discrete part of her life, she'll be more likely take the loss a lot better. Maybe bitch to her friends, but she's less likely to make extensive efforts to try to harm your life.

[-] tempolaca 29 Points 3 months ago

This might explain a lot.

Most of my life I dated mentally ill women. Some very ill, some just a little.

Many of those women really tried to destroy my life when we breakup, but the funny thing is, there is no correlation between illness and the amount of damage they did.

Very crazy and violent women outside my social circle did take the loss surprisingly well, and relatively normal women inside my social circle all tried to destroy me. So you might be onto something here.

[-] Aesthetik_1 11 Points 3 months ago

Makes sense. A socially outcast woman used to mean her death. Smearing her reputation within the group is taken to heart at such higher levels compared to us men.

[-] p3n1x 3 Points 3 months ago

Reputation is everything to them. It is the core of their game.

[-] SKRedPill 1 Point 3 months ago

That itself tells another more important fact - you have a certain vibe about you that is attracted to this type. You need to do some soul searching, find this pattern and get rid of it.

[-] tempolaca 1 Point 3 months ago

If you are trying to say I'm mentally ill? well that's very very likely lol.

[-] alphabachelor 11 Points 3 months ago

There’s a big difference between damaged goods (spendthrift, has mild anxiety, low self esteem so driven by FOMO, etc) and mentally ill (schizophrenia, BPD, narcissism, etc).

The former is perfect for plates, the latter is a hard pass. I wouldn’t fuck them with OP’s dick.

[-] geo_gan 1 Point 3 months ago

I worry that I still have no idea how to recognise the last three

[-] sehns 1 Point 3 months ago

Don't forget about the icing on top - false accusations!

[-] WarViper1337 57 Points 3 months ago

"Don't stick your dick in crazy." - ancient chinese proverb.

[-] yarrak26 3 Points 3 months ago

can't agree more

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[-] Imperator_Red 52 Points 3 months ago

They're mentally ill because biologically, starting when they are about 16-18, they are meant to latch onto a man that will take care of them. All they are supposed to worry about is taking his cock, being pregnant, giving birth, nursing infants, raising children, and performing menial labor around the house (or gathering vegetables for the hunter-gatherer troop if you want to go way back).

They're not meant to be out in the world competing for promotions, worrying about money, doing jobs that they don't give a shit about, and least of all thinking about the nitty gritty details of politics (ugh). I think there was a Roosh article not long ago that women who don't have babies in their 20s basically start going crazy. Their psyches are confused. What the hell are we doing here? We're supposed to be shitting out kids - I don't care about this spreadsheet. To shut it up they buy a dog or a cat so they can pretend to be mothers.

[-] -saltymangos- 6 Points 3 months ago

damn i love insightful comments like this

[-] Zech4riah 5 Points 3 months ago

My next little TRP milestone - burbing this out in the social event so that by friends' GFs hear this. :D

I love to see their disgust and building rage and right after this comment I pick some of them, who I know to be having "baby fever" and say "For example, you and you would be much happier in home with a baby instead of having a boring and stressful job". Most likely they deny it but internally they totally agree with me.

[-] Shankar_ 5 Points 3 months ago

It's golden little comments like this that keep me coming back to TRP year after year. This community is amazing.

[-] flatpapers -14 Point 3 months ago

You have a very sexist view of the world by your logic women wouldn’t need education either or work or vote for that matter so basically slaves?

[-] sehns 18 Points 3 months ago

What you call sexist, I call the system that delivered your sorry ass to existence. You should be a bit more appreciative.

[-] Htowngetdown 5 Points 3 months ago

Slaves to who? Most women would rather be “slaves” to the family than be “slaves” to a job or corporation

[-] TryDoingSomethingNew 1 Point 3 months ago

And yet at the same time, women themselves admit later in life, when it's often too late, that they regret wasting their best years on a career and foolish goals rather than having a home and family.

Denial of the facts doesn't change the facts.

[-] uwey 37 Points 3 months ago

Be careful, young one, to be aware who you raw dog.

Raw dog a crazy carry high risk.

[-] riot2100 13 Points 3 months ago

Raw dog and crazy can also carry a risk of disease. I’d also suggest using condoms you brought yourself as well, extra precaution can do nothing but help.

[-] omega_dawg93 34 Points 3 months ago

i could break the Reddit servers with the number of "dis bitch is crazy" stories i can tell about me and my friends.

seriously... how many women do you know that are NOT taking one of those, "my life ain't perfect, I'm depressed, make me feel better" pills?

[-] CainPrice 11 Points 3 months ago

It's shocking how many women in their 20s and 30s regularly see a therapist and take drugs for their mental health issues.

It's not a bad idea to know your drugs, too. Some of them affect libido. For example, SSRIs kill libido in most women. Some of them affect libido in the opposite direction! You want to find a woman who will make some bad decisions about you? Try an anxious girl on bupropion.

[-] geo_gan 9 Points 3 months ago

I think this is actually an American problem. It seems to me your country is overrun by drug companies advertising and throwing all sorts of drugs down everyone’s throats to increase their own profits. I couldn’t believe the pervasiveness of the drug advertising when I visited America a few years ago. This level of infiltration and control does not exist in other countries. If you are there all your life you may be blind to how bad it is.

[-] CainPrice 15 Points 3 months ago

It's definitely primarily an American issue. Everybody in America has a thing. If your kid is stupid and lazy and can't do math, instead of giving him an F and declaring him stupid and lazy and making him study more, we get him diagnosed with a learning disability so that his teachers are legally required to teach down to him. If your kid is a little weird socially, we've invented about a dozen new disorders under the autism spectrum to describe him, so it's not his fault. He has a thing.

If you don't get the job or promotion you wanted, it's never because you're not good enough or someone better applied. It's because whoever made the decision is racist or sexist. If you encounter the same normal life difficulties that everyone else encounters, and they're difficult and you're not happy, that's totally abnormal and you're depressed and need to be prescribed drugs that blunt the negative feelings you're having.

Whatever normal problems people have, there's a diagnoses and drug for that in America. It's a pretty serious issue. People don't know how to cope with problems, which is itself a mental illness.

[-] omega_dawg93 5 Points 3 months ago

my ex girl got on one of those drugs... and we went from 3-4 romps per week to literally nothing.

the biggest issue was that she still thought we were going at that rate... it was a total afterthought & she didn't care.

[-] AdviceMaster1412 4 Points 3 months ago

hahaha I can't even say I'm surprised, solipsism at its finest.

[-] kiwifx 5 Points 3 months ago

It's not a bad idea to know your drugs, too.

That's make for a useful post. I found Prozac killed my ability to cum, got real awkward when I started taking it in the middle of a relationship

[-] SKRedPill 1 Point 3 months ago

You know that the contraceptive pill can alter women's normal sexual personalities? No one wants to write about it, but it's true.

[-] weezylane 1 Point 3 months ago

I don't think so. They use AWS.

[-] DigitalDragonSlayer 21 Points 3 months ago

Brutal but lot of truth in this. What percentage of American women do you think are without a debilitating mental drawback (let’s include the little stuff like anxiety for this exercise)?

[-] CainPrice 18 Points 3 months ago

I'd say if you're meeting an unmarried woman over 25 or a promiscuous woman under 25, you're dealing with at least a 50-50 chance of anxiety or depression.

If we expand this to any woman in general, age 18-50, regardless of marital or relationship status or sex history, you probably get something ranging from 1 in 5 to 1 in 3 depending on what sources you want to believe. Which is in line with the normal populace.

The alarming point is that once you separate women from men, then once you separate low to mid 20s slutty women and late 20s and early 30s unmarried women from the pack, any woman you grab from that group has a pretty decent chance of mental illness.

[-] studentsensei 17 Points 3 months ago

Women are generally high on neuroticism, especially younger ones, and we're in a climate where a lot of young adults are anxious, depressed, stressed and broke. So the issues compound on each other.

I think it's best to get seriously involved when you're older, that way you can meet people who have, for the most part, dealt with their issues. I say mid thirties is when people start to mellow out a bit in general

[-] CainPrice 9 Points 3 months ago

I think there's a sweet spot. Mid 30s and mentally ill is usually better than 28 and mentally ill. But if she's in her mid 40s and still not married or settled into her casual lifestyle, that's even worse than an anxious/depressed 20-something.

[-] p3n1x 6 Points 3 months ago

A caveat to this sweet spot, Men. Men are in their worst mental state at the early to mid 30's.

You have also left out "that ticking clock" for the ladies. If you don't want kids, leave the 29 to 32 yr olds alone. 30 is an absolute BRUTAL time menatlly for childless woman.

[-] DigitalDragonSlayer 1 Point 3 months ago

Post wall though? Or is age the trade off for stability?

[-] studentsensei 3 Points 3 months ago

Age is the trade off. I've dated older single moms in their mid 30s and they have a sense of humor, purpose, and are generally better to get along with.

I will never commit to one though because raising someone else's child is a hard no for me, but they have something called perspective. Too many women don't.

[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 3 months ago

You get to choose from what remains that is people that never found anybody or just broke from their previous relation.

In statistic this population is more likely to be of lesser quality. Not all, but in statistics.

[-] j_arbuckle2012 3 Points 3 months ago

Which is unfortunately the majority of the women that TRP bubbas are going to meet and date unless they go deep and try to get past endogamy and into the "good girls."

[-] CainPrice 5 Points 3 months ago

That's why I felt this issue was important to address. The mental health issue is way too critical to just brush off and say "Forget those damaged sluts!" If you're not educated about mental health issues and how to identify them and deal with those kinds of women, whether it's your plan to avoid those women, be sensitive to them, or take advantage of them, there's a decent chance of being bitten in the ass.

[-] whatsthisgarg 20 Points 3 months ago

Outcome independence, acting aloof, practicing push-pull techniques, putting women on an emotional roller coaster where you love them one day but wouldn’t care if they left the next day – that excites the hell out of an anxious woman.

Blue pill retards love to say TRP only works on damaged women (right after they say TRP doesn't work, as a retard would). So this post should generate some hilarious hate over on that other sub.

But the truth is, this works on almost all women, in fact, in my experience, this works on high quality women more consistently and with better results than on anxious or depressive women.

So your attitude and strategy should pretty much be the same, no matter what kind of woman you're dealing with, EXCEPT, be on your guard against crazy. They're fun for a while, then when you cross them, and you will, your health can be in danger.

I had a woman break into my studio and slash 20 paintings I had worked on for months, right before the opening. About a week later, I was sitting at a table in a bar with another woman, and she came up, grabbed two beer bottles and smashed them together less than a foot in front of my face. Good times.

[-] JellyRev 2 Points 3 months ago

Nice post. Never change one's game. It always leads to bad results. Once you break frame its over.

[-] geo_gan 1 Point 3 months ago

Did you get the police after her for causing this criminal damage?

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[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 3 months ago

Let's be realistic, if you got a nice girlfriend, you have a good relation and all is going well, you are quite unlikely to go on TRP.

On the contrary if you had bad experiences or have difficulties to find a girl, you are much more likely to be there. Even if TRP was quite beneficial, helped you grows, saying that all womens are like that is also because we have a bias.

By definition, TRP teaching mean you'll never convince or favor women that would not cheat, are not slut and overall sane AND attractive to begin with. Such women are already taken and maybe on the dating market a few month for all their life.

On the opposite the ill women, the unattractive one, the annoying one are going to be almost aways on the market. So even if say the population is 50/50, you are much more likely to find that 90% of the available women are not part of sane/attractive/loyal/easy going group.

This is the same for job market or real estate. High quality products sold as a bargain are taken instantly. Even decent products sold at a decent price don't stay for long.

Only untinterresting products are always on the market because nobody is interrested. And this include us too, at least for the one that still need to make some progress.

Not saying that TRP is overall wrong, saying that we tend to exagerate it because it what we experience. Doesn't mean that experience is universal. Nice guys that got they hit together and managed just fine are never going to be on that reddit.

[-] maljo24 -9 Point 3 months ago

Your studio experience is proof TRP does not work.

[-] DoneScannedIt 8 Points 3 months ago

proof TRP does not work

  • I've screwdriver scars from damaged goods, that I treated with the most blue, well-mannered, courtesy, kindness, generosity of my time, talent, and treasure. There was not a TRP moment in the whole 4 months and 2 moves of my appartment, that it took to get away from that crazy.
  • I've been given the most-graceful, kind, gentle brush-off, and goodbye, from a young woman who was very mature and stable.
  • I've been used by the sweetest thing who was so messed up by her parents divorce that she couldn't approach a "normal" relationship.
  • I've learned from TRP. Including some of the ideas around, "don't stick it in crazy". I feel that no-matter if there was a "score", the things I've learned, were vital in me navigating a drastically different time than when I was younger. I feel that in every case, it has not let me down. It has resulted in a variety of outcomes and I would say that most have been mutually agreeable/enjoyable. Guess what?
    • I've had better results.
    • I've saved, I would guess, 90% of the time I used-to, in pursuing things because I hope they would suddenly see what a great catch I was.
    • Now, things are clear. I don't have to guess as much.
    • I also seem to be under less pressure to read their minds.
    • In relationships, I feel I waste less time reacting, and more time enjoying. I feel that is the same for both people.
    • All that thing about withstanding the onslot that she unleashes and bringing calm to the storm.

TL;DR: studio experience has 100% to do with the woman's state of mind. If a non-TRP person broke up with her, he'd get the same treatment, but be in no position to handle it in a way that minimizes damage.


[-] whatsthisgarg 4 Points 3 months ago

Your studio experience is proof TRP does not work.

That was years before TRP was even a glimmer on the horizon, dum dum. That's a moot point anyway because TRP is about attracting them, not curing their mental illnesses.

[-] p3n1x 3 Points 3 months ago

Where is it written that TRP comes consequence-free? All actions have consequences.

[-] nofilmynofucky 18 Points 3 months ago

I mean dude you're not exactly wrong here but you also kinda sound like Dennis Reynolds

[-] binkerfluid 16 Points 3 months ago

I just want to say RUN from BPD (borderline personality disorder)

These people will RUIN YOUR LIFE. I know that sounds dramatic but they will. They will lie and manipulate you. You may think you know what that means but you dont until you have experienced it with them. When you first get with them they will be AMAZING the BEST THING THATS EVER HAPPENED TO YOU! You arnt lucky, you havent hit the jackpot, you are not special. (she is probably at the very least talking to other guys if not fucking them even now). This is their illness. This is what they do with everyone. You will see this after they have destroyed your life and moved on to the next one instantly. They will rope you in, they will change, they will do every evil and manipulative thing you can imagine.

Never ever EVER deal with them. They are hopelessly broken people and no one will say it because its mean. They are an anchor and they will bring you down with them...then move on to the next guy.

I think about killing myself every single day because I had a kid with one of these women. "I cant even get pregnant right now we dont need a condom" DO NOT DO WHAT I DID. I dont care how hot they are or how they make you feel.

She recommends intensive therapy sessions multiple times a week!

Who can or will do that?

Just avoid.

[-] Avertus 2 Points 3 months ago

I just read the sticked link about the BPD, and realized that my sister who's living in my mom's house with 3 kids from 2 guys and been wrecking problems for the last three years might just be one of them. No wonder she's driving the whole family nuts.

[-] Shakydrummer 2 Points 3 months ago

Pulled out of a relationship fast with a BPD girl and I consider myself lucky because it would have been a SHITSHOW otherwise. BPD is fucking nuts.

[-] geo_gan 1 Point 3 months ago

That was a very informative video. I could never understand what BPD was before now. Thanks

[-] CensorThis111 15 Points 3 months ago

you’re not going to find a stable, normal 22-25 year old who wants to have a good relationship with you.

Stopped reading right there. The sky is not falling, chicken little.

Yeah sure a lot of people are fucked in the head but once you go off the deep end like this, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[-] nattlife 8 Points 3 months ago

which is an interesting point, isn't?

Thats the thing about self fulfilling prophecy. We already have a kids tale about the lion living among the herd of sheep believing he is a sheep himself.

This OP is basically promoting the incel tier "black pill" mindset here and people seem to not notice it other than you.

OP, you are on RED pill. The point of this sub is to navigate the current culture with the tools at your disposal and making the cold hard reality to your favor.

[-] Htowngetdown 2 Points 3 months ago

Yeah, Reddit is cynical but that was a bit much, lol

[-] redpillschool 15 Points 3 months ago

run like hell from BPD

This isn't just a suggestion, this may save your life.

Study this page. Memorize it.

[-] SKRedPill 1 Point 3 months ago

I wrote my own experience with it. It's like being with a human nuke. Never again. Hell, I can give a personal example for each and every one of those terms on that link!!

Others have had far, far, worse. That guy who's wife burned herself and tried to take him down with her, leaving him with third degree burns? That's BPD.

I don't know what's with the fanbase on this subreddit since I came here. It's changed.

[-] Derailed94 1 Point 3 months ago

What if you are a diagnosed bpd male yourself?

[-] _iisu -2 Point 3 months ago

Why? I find BPD attractive.

[-] Htowngetdown 6 Points 3 months ago

He literally posted the “why” .... but if you’re asking for concrete examples... They will do shit like stalk and kill you. Get it now?

[-] venatorZ 1 Point 3 months ago

Yeah, a ONS with someone like that wont end that fucking well hahaha

[-] ActiveAir 1 Point 3 months ago

Do not date BPD girl bro. I'm dating one currently (or did date one, no clue what the fuck is going on with her anymore), and it has turned into a nightmare. I wouldn't wish a BPD woman on my worst enemy. Don't date BPD or emotionally fucked woman. I never listened, and you probably won't either, but here is what happened.


Been dating an Arab girl met 4 months ago during the summer, extremely attractive, absolutely beautiful. At this point in time I was very blue-pilled in nature, and wanted to have sex really badly (kinda an incel at that time). Girl seemed perfect on the outside, stunning face, big fucking tits, nice personality, but EXTREMELY socially awkward. We fucked on the second date, and we walked everywhere around our city. Within our first ten dates we had sex in the park (multiple times, lost count), by the airport, in parking lots, fucking outside your library, pretty much everywhere. The sex was really good. We also did a lot of other shit such as walk and just talk about life. Our dates would go on until 2 or 3 AM (she was a night owl).


Then I find out about her past. She has been in foster care for the good majority of her life. 4 years ago she was abused by her prev foster dad, and did shit like beat her with a belt, burn her hands in water, never fed her. How did I find out? One time in the park I was tryin tie her up before we were about to have sex AND SHE FUCKING STARTED CRYING IN THE MIDDLE OF SEX.


When she was little her dad hanged himself cuz her mom cheated on her dad, and she saw it happen. Same step dad's uncle would molest her. At this time I didn't think much cuz I had oneitis for this current (still do a little bit), and she seemed fined on the outside. The thing is these girls WILL LOOK FINE on the outside, but on the inside they are fucked in the head.


So everything was good we would constantly text each other, up until the point where she said she wanted to get married and not be with me. WTF marriage at 20 you say? We'll apparently her new foster dad (current step-dad) is a rich ass arab dude that wants her to get married at the age of 20 (well, engaged, really), and she has started putting me off lately, I say that in the most sugar coated way possible. I've been getting speeches such as, don't worry you'll find another girl, we were never meant to be, I don't love you, there is no spark anymore, I wanna explore my options, I wanna be with someone that has money and is more mature than you, basically the works.


Then she started joining dating sites and mocking me with flirts from other guys.

She would give other guys her number, not knowing how fucked up that was. (This was when we WERE together).

Then she talked about meeting other guys for 'long drives', and meeting them at her university campus WHEN LOGICALLY WE WERE STILL TOGETHER. I kid you not, she had no clue that this was not typical, that this was wrong. She genuinely believed in her head that it was O.K to make 'guy friends' on dating sites.



So the first 3 months I thought I was her first UNTIL she told me she had two previous boyfriends, and her first boyfriend left her because he fucking got CANCER. She implied she had some sort of oneitis at that point, when she told me she doesn't feel anythin' anymore.


So to sum it up, I dated a BPD girl who:

First boyfriend diagnosed with cancer

Molested as a teen

Hands boiled as a teen


Rarely fed

Dad hanged himself in front of her

Mom was a prostitute


The only 'attractive' thing is that they will 'love' you up to the point where they get the confidence to talk to other guys. At that point, you will be boring and won't be anything to them anymore. They will USE you


i've been hitting the gym alot but i'm still trying to get over this bitch... so i'm here... just don't make the mistake that I did. these emotional vampires don't give a shit about you, even if they say a billion times they do, even if their actions speak otherwise. they'll fuck you over in one day. I wasn't stalked or anything, but even if she doesn't hurt you,you'll get emotionally fucked,



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[-] askmrcia 13 Points 3 months ago

Last year I felt i dated one mentally stable woman. Came from a really good family and only had two long term relationships and she was 26. Everything was going well between her and I until about three months in she started complaining about work.

Then she kept mentioning how she was busy with her Mary Kay side business. You guys know that's a mlm pyramid scheme.

Only got worse from there. One time I was over her house and she got called in for work the next day (she was a hr assistant) and she just flipped. Like went crazy. Screaming and yelling and throwing things around the house.

Me trying to get out of her way I came across a door I never noticed before. I opened it after she told me not to. Inside was a bunch of boxes of Mary Kay items that she hadn't sold.

So she was pissed because she was losing money and flat broke from her job and her so called side business. Then the best part was she went into the bathroom and took a handful of pills of whatever medication she was on.

Moral of the story. Op is right. After a certain age these women go bonkers. I brought up that example because the one girl I found that wasn't a partier or slut was still crazy as hell.

[-] CainPrice 6 Points 3 months ago

If you're ever at a girl's place taking a piss and get curious, go through her medicine cabinet and look up some of the crap you find on your phone. I'd give it 50-50 odds that if the woman's over 25 and unmarried, you'll find at least one kind of happy pill.

[-] TheLongerCon 3 Points 3 months ago

What's the causality here? Do women who are mentally ill have a harder time not getting into a realtionship, or does not being in a committed realtionship put a toll on women psyche past a certain age.

[-] askmrcia 2 Points 3 months ago

What's the causality here? Do women who are mentally ill have a harder time not getting into a realtionship, or does not being in a committed realtionship put a toll on women psyche past a certain age.

I think it's the latter among other things. Not being in a good stable relationship while also comparing their lives to their peers on social media.

There's numerous studies on more and more people complaining they are depressed.

Depression leads to people wanting to get more and more medications.

[-] redbearsociety 13 Points 3 months ago

This article makes a few too many generalisations. If women that go to bars to meet guys are mentally ill, what it everyone in this sub? You make a decent point in learning how to deal with women that do have their intricacies, but it's fucking stupid to say that most women you meet are mentally ill, and either shows you know nothing about people or don't in fact meet many women. Or you have the vibe that attracts crazy, which is totally possible. Anxiety is a part of the human condition, so is depression. Everyone goes through it at times. It's not normal to be completely happy, and calling the majority of people mentally ill would logically make it normal and therefore not 'ill'. A more truthful way of looking at this would be to recognise that humans are generally imperfect and a lot of women these days are insecure as shit and less stable than in decades past. Fuck who you want, but don't put your dick in crazy. If you want to make it work, then understand your partner. Also as far as generalising age - bars full of people below 23 are the perfect place to meet people that are confused as shit with their lives and some of those people will inevitably be stuck in a hedonistic spiral. Does it write them off as people? No(unless they are borderline, then run!). Does it mean they will be this way forever? Hell no. Mental illness is not the definition of a person. It's a season and everyone moves through a season if they are willing to.

[-] TryDoingSomethingNew 1 Point 3 months ago

it's fucking stupid to say that most women you meet are mentally ill, and either shows you know nothing about people or don't in fact meet many women.

Quite the opposite, actually. The more women I've met and known, both in and outside of relationships, the more and more I've seen a general pattern.

A substantially high number of women both young and old very clearly have mental/emotional disorders.

This isn't anything new we're saying.

[-] redbearsociety 1 Point 3 months ago

You're missing the point. It's only a "dis-order" if it is out of the ordinary... At what point do you just start to accept that women are less stable than men and stop labelling it mental illness unless it's completely fucking their lives up? This post just reeks of a guy that is comparing women to men rather than women to women because it's all he knows.

[-] Pooptrition -1 Point 3 months ago


Women have to face conflicts in their lives, including "hitting the wall" or whatever TRP wants to call it, as well as the many other challenges of modern society for which we are all ill adapted evolutionarily.

But, like anyone, they are capable of overcoming these challenges and finding balance.

Mental illness diagnosis and prescriptions are a goddamn crime on this country. Those pills are poison and stunt emotional growth.

Personally, i am fine with dating many women and associating with many men that society calls crazy. But you can keep the ones that are being "treated".

[-] maljo24 12 Points 3 months ago

Remember the mentally unstable woman you're dating is probably dating a mentally unstable man as well.

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[-] redbearsociety -1 Point 3 months ago

Calls all women mentally ill because of society - fails to see he lives in same society.

[-] TheBadGoy 7 Points 3 months ago

The difference between an 18 year old and a 23 year old is baffling. You can tell Chad has done too much damage and it's too late fix it

[-] GayLubeOil 6 Points 3 months ago

A quick meta note. Obviously this post is gonna offend bloopies. However if we take the inverse:

1/5 women are batshit stay the fuck away

Bloops would also be offended. So really it's not about what our position is. The reality is that mental health and depression are trigger words that make NPC bloopsters feel some type of way.

[-] snowmoose1 5 Points 3 months ago

My ex grew up with an absent father since 4 years old. She was 25 at the time and i 26. Reflecting on the 1 year long relationship we had, my BP brain failed to recognize that she was fucking psycho. BPD, anxiety, the whole shitshow. Was very attached then on the lookout at the end until i dropped the cancer she was. They’re all loose and promiscuous with high n-count seeking validation from 1000 dicks.

My point is, society is failing in parenting the right way which is also a big factor in how stable women are. Women without a strong present father are fkn no-go for LTR. Single mothers are the worst..

[-] maljo24 3 Points 3 months ago

Some are, some aren't. No rule applies. Trying to put everyone in a box is a mistake.

[-] TryDoingSomethingNew 1 Point 3 months ago

We use generlizations because they're generally true as a rule. Exceptions to the rule don't disprove it.

A wise man does not leave much to chance. Much better to be on guard and be well aware of the dangers as there's far too much at stake.

[-] snowmoose1 1 Point 3 months ago

It’s not about putting all in a box but to filter out and wet the right woman. Also there are solid studies showing the effects on the children growing up with an absent parent, mother as father. But yeah, maybe you’re right, a BPD and crazy girl with 200 n-count can actually be a unicorn and change just for you cause she might be different.. lol

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[-] sadomasochrist 5 Points 3 months ago

Spoken like someone who has no idea what the fuck they're advocating. Ever had an attempt on your life?

I'm gonna say... No.

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[-] ThePantsThief 5 Points 3 months ago

This is the kind of post title that gets our sub quarantined lmao

Like we can obviously read between the lines but not everyone can, and this looks really bad y'all…

[-] kanteroalberda 5 Points 3 months ago

How to tell if she is mentally ill or not?

[-] CainPrice 6 Points 3 months ago

If she's in her low to mid 20s and promiscuous or above her mid 20s and not married yet, just assume you're dealing with at least mild depression or anxiety, even if it's undiagnosed. You'll be right a lot of the time. In the mean time, educate yourself about mental health - not just on manosphere sites, but in general, from real sources. Learn to identify mental illness and how people with various mental issues tick.

[-] Felixsilly 4 Points 3 months ago

They don't have to be promiscuous at all.

Today's society fosters anxiety, depression, etc in women especially. Look at social media and how they use it more, how they exercise less, how appearance is more important, how dieting is nearly cult like. You can tell women are going to be against those odds.

Best thing you can do is read about these things.

[-] p3n1x 4 Points 3 months ago

Become very familiar with BPD. Learn what emotional manipulators tactics are. Listen to the "my boyfriend/husband is so shitty" with a very objective ear and know it is a onesided story. Never fall for any crying that doesn't have to do with a death in the family.

Ever hear a contemptuous woman speak about her ex/current man? Thinking about it gives me the shivers.

When you start getting "captain save a ho" feelings, you are doing it wrong.

[-] 44361066 5 Points 3 months ago

I once read on Goldmund Unleashed’s instagram that every 27+ year old single woman he met was on the verge of insanity.

Keeping this statement in mind in the recent few months after my smv increased a lot and I became good with women, I realized how fucking true it is.

[-] p3n1x 3 Points 3 months ago

27+ year old single woman

Not married, no kids, 30 creeping up. Pay very close attention to the culture they come from also.

[-] pbar 5 Points 3 months ago

But giving a mentally ill woman power over you is catastrophic.

This ought to be obvious, but if I had realized it about 35 yrs ago it would have been worth several million dollars, both literally and in terms of misery.

[-] Thizzlebot 4 Points 3 months ago


TLDR: Play with fire but even pyrotechnicians get burned at some point.

[-] Shadowthrice 3 Points 3 months ago

This long long post has no content!! I kept waiting for you to say how to game these mentally ill women, but you never do!

Your entire unnecessary long post consists of 1 point: most single women are mentally ill, so you should learn how to game them.

A big nothing-burger!

[-] CainPrice 0 Points 3 months ago

It's a little beyond the scope of Reddit to copy some notes from a master-level therapist practicum course. My hope is to encourage guys like you to educate yourselves. The next time you pick out a book to read, instead of another random manosphere book about why feminism is stupid and destroying society, read some psychology or therapy texts about depression or anxiety to help you identify women with these issues and get ideas how to deal with them.

[-] apost54 3 Points 3 months ago

Regarding BPD, I heard BoJack Horseman is basically representative of it. Don’t take my word for it, but it’s relatively easy to understand if you watch the show.

[-] Warrior_King02 3 Points 3 months ago

Sometimes it's hard to even see if someone actually suffers a mental health issue. I'm 16 and there are all these chicks who keep saying shit like "Omg I just had the 7th mental breakdown today" and do shit just for attention and comfort.

I do agree with your point of giving a mentally ill woman power over you is catastrophic

[-] stripethrowaway 3 Points 3 months ago

Whatever happened to "Don't stick your dick in crazy?"

Sperg shit like this is why TRP is behind the great wall of Reddit.

If you are so lacking in confidence that you need to be gaming mentally unstable women that's really sad.

[-] NeedingAdvice86 5 Points 3 months ago

Well, I would say like attract like.

Seriously some people sperg themselves so bad is it any wonder that their only experience is with "slutty women under 25 and women over 25 that are crazy".

You really can't make this shit up...….I mean what type of mentally stable person would actually post this on the internet even if the thought popped into their head some drunken night.....none.

Nothing but a sign of a person who spends vast amounts of time doing nothing but wallowing around the internet and alone holed in their home imagining what is going on outside in the dark....

Sad really.

[-] CainPrice 4 Points 3 months ago

If your dating pool consists of promiscuous women in their 20s and 30s, you are unavoidably going to end up dating women who suffer from anxiety and depression. The amount of mentally ill women in this segment of the population is enormous.

Whether you want to avoid these women, be sensitive about their issues, or take advantage of them is up to you. I'm not your pastor. The mental health issue is too serious to ignore, and every man should educate himself on identifying signs of mental illness and how women with various disorders work to avoid getting slapped in the face with an unexpected and unpleasant surprise.

[-] stripethrowaway 0 Points 3 months ago

Why plate when you can ONS and next? Doesn't the sidebar offer cautionary word?

[-] audit123 3 Points 3 months ago

wait, so what about divorced women? say they got married to a abusive man, and then were divorced in their 30s? or doctors? surely not all women are crazy

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 3 months ago

Not all women, sure. But if you randomly pluck a woman from the pool of women in their 20s and 30s that are unmarried and promiscuous, your odds of ending up with someone having mental health issues are much greater than the normal population as a whole.

I'd honestly be extra-careful about divorced/abused women in their 30s. Women are 2.5 times more likely to suffer from PTSD following a traumatic event than men. And women are 1.5-2 times as likely as men to suffer from anxiety or depression if they feel like they're underachieving and their life isn't where it should be or isn't going according to plan.

A woman who's been through a lot of shit is more likely to be mentally ill, not less.

[-] xMB99 2 Points 3 months ago

I'd rather marry a man than a women and I'm not even gay, but at least you'll know he has your back. Most women now are usually playing for the other team on the down low.

[-] SKRedPill 2 Points 3 months ago

Anyone with an overthinking or feeling mind that needs constant stimulus, needing pleasure as an anesthetic to hide their inner pain and restlessness, lacks abundance, or cannot respond as required and switch off like your car engine when not required is ill. When the mind is using you, you ARE ill. When I say mind, it's not just thoughts, it's also emotions and sensations. People in 3rd world countries suffer mother nature, while those in the 1st world suffer their freedom. Leave the mind free without some kind of stimulus, and all of a sudden its shit begins to flood you and drive you crazy.

To understand just how sick you really are, quit everything, wake up and do nothing except eat, sleep and sit in one place for an entire day, with only your own mind and body for company - no mobiles, internet, big goals and targets - in Buddhism this is essentially a kind of meditation to itself. At the most you're allowed exercise. You will meet every single demon inside you by the end of the day - you will know what Satan really means. If you've not vanquished that restlessness, you will not find true abundance.

Every second of your existence, your mind is plotting a way to run away to somewhere else to escape from it's own shit, but the more it resists, the worse it gets. A mind too full of baggage and shit wants ever more anesthetic.

If you are not comfortable with the nothing, you can not be comfortable in the midst of anything. Most of your activities are just means of hiding this insanity. The mind essentially can't switch on and off like your car and stay quiet where there is no need for it to do anything, but just stay calm and be.

So we are all ill to various degrees - and guess what, in today's society that gives too much importance to the noise of their minds like it's precious inheritance, it is easy to fan a benign illness into a cancerous tumor, so you will see people ill for the simple reason that their minds can't stop where they should. 1st world societies are living proof that mental illness can be self generating. In essence, this also means a corollary -- there is almost no such thing as an abundant relationship. What we call love is essentially the body using someone else to give you a biochemical high, but really, it's your own body that's causing the phenomenon.

The question then is all about how far you can go before the rider has fallen off the horse.

Men given testosterone are more prone to anger and physical outburst and due to objectification, can dehumanize life. While women, due to sollipsisim, lose all objectivity and discrimination between what's serious and what's small, everything becomes as important as they are because ego. And in a culture that encourages this behaviour in women, mental illness is just a matter of time.

So before you go crazy, witness and acknowledge your mental monster through meditation - you are more than just a mind and a bag of never ending chatter. Only then it settles down. And only then will it focus on the stuff that really matter without resistance.


[-] dutchgguy 2 Points 3 months ago

Why would you even want to game mentally ill women?

[-] CainPrice 3 Points 3 months ago

It's not a matter of seeking out mentally ill women to game. It's more that if your dating pool consists of unmarried, promiscuous 20s and 30s women, you are unavoidably going to encounter a significantly larger-than-normal proportion of anxiety, depression, and possibly even worse mental health disorders.

It's important to be educated about this and learn to recognize the different kinds of mental illnesses and know how to deal with these women, whether it's your plan to avoid them, be sensitive to their issues, or take advantage of them. Otherwise, you might end up blindsided by something unpleasant you didn't see coming.

[-] NDMagoo 2 Points 3 months ago

In my experience/observation the rate is even higher than that.

[-] edge_lord_super_17 2 Points 3 months ago

The best way to game a mentally ill woman is by not gaming her at all. Don't stick your dicks in a meat grinder gents.

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 3 months ago

That's definitely an option. Unfortunately, women with mental health issues don't wear signs, and if you take a random unmarried, promiscuous woman in her 20s or 30s, your odds of encountering someone mentally ill are significantly higher than the average for the population as a whole.

Recognizing signs of depression, anxiety, and even more serious mental health disorders is important. Or just going through your girl's medicine cabinet the next time you're at her place, though a lot of crazy women aren't diagnosed, seeing a therapist, and taking happy pills.

[-] TheGoldenLeprechaun 2 Points 3 months ago

The stats check out more or less. And from the stats I've seen, scarily higher in the states. 2bn + on social media, almost 1bn on Instagram = pretty much every american girl is on it. And it has been proven to be THE leading cause of all of these mental disorders, along with being responsible for the 30% increase in teen and young adult suicide. Add the misdiagnosis of BPD which is actually Psychopathic Narcissism and you have your answer.

TL;DR If you like a girl and don't want to have to learn BS/BA levels in psychology, game her off instaThot and half of her problems disappear.

[-] hastalavistabb 2 Points 3 months ago

I’ve been saying this for a while. As a 20 y/o male I’ve noticed it and it’s absolutely rampant. I would say at least 80% maybe as much as 95% of the women in my general age group that I know, are suffering from some form of mental illness. The most common ones are: anxiety and self (and professionally) diagnosed depression. These people are not healthy to be around and commitment to them will bring you down. If you want to plate them and play with fire, then by all means. But guys I mean it, it’s fire. So many of them are afflicted to mental illness I feel like I may never meet a woman worth settling down with. The numbers are just not in my (or anyone else’s) favor.

TLDR: 95% of young women are undateable.

[-] DadOnDabs 2 Points 3 months ago

Jesus this post reads so fucked up. Like I get what you're saying since I've been here a while but I see why people hate this forum.

[-] CainPrice 1 Point 3 months ago

I don't exactly post on The Red Pill to be popular.

I think the mental health issue is something not enough people speak about, and when it comes to single, promiscuous women in their 20s and 30s (which is the dating pool of the majority of Red Pill readers), a guy is going to encounter a disproportionate amount of mental health issues among the women. More than other segments of the population.

Recognizing what kind of mental health issue you're dealing with and knowing how to deal with women like that is something guys ought to educate themselves about. Whether they want to avoid women like this, be sensitive to them, or take advantage of them.

The next time some dude picks out his next book to read, he ought to consider a psychology or therapy text instead of some random manosphere book about why feminism sucks. It'll be more practical when he tries to meet girls.

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[-] CainPrice 10 Points 3 months ago

If you're 16 today, found The Red Pill early in life, and you're planning on working out, getting fit and hot, getting your social life in order, and meeting a great girl in college, feel free to move on. But if you're most of the men around here, the mental health issue is too important to ignore.

If your dating pool consists of promiscuous, unmarried 20-something and 30-something women, you've got a really high chance of running into anxiety and depression.

If you're not educated about mental health issues and how to identify them and deal with those kinds of women, whether you want to avoid them, be sensitive to them, or take advantage of them, you're at risk of being unpleasantly surprised by something ugly.

[-] vfb14 0 Points 3 months ago

This TL;DR tendency is what is ruining our society man.

[-] DeGENZerate 8 Points 3 months ago

Ok I'm fluent in retard so I will translate this for the rest of you.


"Hello I live in a Westernized country and don't have any other context. I don't see mentally ill women as such because mental illness is rarrr and these womyn here are completely normal."

[-] looksmaxxingcurry 1 Point 3 months ago

I'll bite. How does one find these women . Specifically in college

[-] Zech4riah 1 Point 3 months ago

Wow, you guys in US have really hard time if this was worth posting. It's seems to be more of a warning (or bitching) instead of advice how to game mentally ill women.

tl;dr Game mentally ill women the same you would game normal woman but in addition plan an exit strategy and don't get too involved.

[-] SICFJC 1 Point 3 months ago

This doesn't teach anything about how to game mentally ill women.


Is just says " learn to game mentally ill women"


what a waste of a post.

[-] Izzenw 1 Point 3 months ago

I was dating clinically depressed girl.

She is blonde, green eyes, petit body, a solid 8.5/10. Caring , loving, attentive and so on. My dream coming true.

Then, gentlemen, it backlashed. Thanks to her anti-depressive medicines, she has 0 libido. Her pussy simply does not work at all. We had to use tons of lubrificant and it was very unpleasant for her. Also, she became obsessed , and I was always worrying about her mental state.

Thanks god, she went back to her state, very far away from here, and the distance made it unviable to keep the relationship. Also, thanks to her looks, she found another guy.

But if she stood here in my city, I would have serious problems with her.

Stick to the rules. Dont stick your dick into crazy.

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[-] faustian_talos 1 Point 3 months ago

I wish I read this 4 years ago.

Before I stuck it in crazy.

[-] Sveris 1 Point 3 months ago

Confirming run like hell from BPD. In my lesser years I was trapped in a relationship with a girl that had severe bipolar. You don't know just how messed up life can be when you have to hide kitchen knives just to get a good nights rest.

[-] binkerfluid 1 Point 3 months ago

fwiw BPD is actually borderline personality disorder not bipolar (though that would make sense from the letters as well)

[-] Sveris 1 Point 3 months ago

Feel free to explain any positive difference. Either way, run far, run fast.

[-] SKRedPill 1 Point 3 months ago

Bipolar is slower - like extreme summer changing to extreme winter. BPD is like pouring gasoline all over your house, and putting some land mines in between.

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[-] DeusVultRightNow 1 Point 3 months ago

If that's the case, this is where I'd rather mgtow thn dealing with these psycho bitches.

[-] SKRedPill 1 Point 3 months ago

Today, apart from the ones who are genuinely mentally ill (and dangerous), most people cultivate many other mental illnesses, and it's so widespread now, it's become the new normal, so no one recognizes it as such.

[-] Shakydrummer 1 Point 3 months ago

Can confirm. Briefly upgraded a plate to LTR and it spiralled out of control quickly. Learned a solid lesson there and I'm being a little more discerning over who I game and who I consider an LTR at this point because this last one was a total Wackadoodle haha

[-] profpoo 1 Point 3 months ago

I’m not sure it’s up for debate - it’s predatory. Simple.

[-] BurnoutRS 1 Point 3 months ago

Anxiety and Depression are biological motivators designed to urge you to acchieve higher status and seek out a better quality of life.

Devoid of an actual, realistic and objective definition of what a real, quality life is, most people glom on to the first thing that seems promising. This is why its important to keep kids off of drugs. Because the significance of the experience of getting high is so incredible that a kid might assign inordinate meaning to it and live out the rest of his life doing nothing but getting high. Its also why people are so suscept to joining cults.

Women have it rough in two ways. They are born into a world that immediately pressures them to be both a man and a woman. you must be beautiful, have perfectly perky double d titties that get caught in the milling machine and ripped off when youre manufacturing new parts for the assembly line and they are biologically designed to prefer subervience more so than dominance so even if she has an inkling that the societal pressures are retarded, her biology makes it harder to resist them.

Women have higher levels of neurotic behaviour in part because they are more likely to be lower status. The highest status female? A Queen or and Empress etc. she still has a man over her. The higest position a woman can seek to attain is still a number 2 position.

[-] TigerXtrm 1 Point 3 months ago

Or, just don't stick your dick in crazy.

[-] russian_nigger 1 Point 3 months ago

most are definitely mentally unstable. the only thing you can trust a woman with is her being a woman. once you learn that, then the bullshit shouldn't be a surprise anymore. so there's your takeaway.

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