So it's been a while since my last FR... I actually wrote this one a while back, months ago, and then forgot about it. I stumbled across it when checking some old unfinished pieces I'd been putting together. This one reminded me just how important non-verbal communication is. Aura, exchanged looks and dominant presence, used to achieve an extremely rapid escalation. So here you have it.
I was driving overnight to visit a friend. (It's a good way to avoid traffic.) Decided to stop at a services to stretch my legs and get a coffee. I'm not looking my very best, my hair is a bit of a mess but my style is still very unique so I tend to still get some looks anyway. If I just did basic t-shirt and jeans, I don't get the looks. Cultivate your own unique style gentlemen and you'll get noticed for it. So I head for the coffee shop and order my coffee to sit in. There's barely anybody around, the place is almost deserted except for a couple of people eating at the burger king.
The petite chick who served me is very much the definition of a butterface. Looks early 20s, face is about 4 or 5/10 but she had a banging body 8/10 and her uniform couldn't hide the distinct hourglass shape and big perky tits. I'm not even thinking about gaming this chick, so I just wait in silence and read the scrolling news on the big screen telly. All of a sudden, she engages me in conversation, wants to know what I've been up to. Now banging this chick was not on my mind at all, but I'm used to running a very lazy style of game (I don't go out of my way to approach, I let the situation dictate the terms of engagement for me which allows me to achieve a much higher conversion rate than a PUA - I waste a lot less time and focus on myself)... as a result of this style of game, it tends to flow more naturally and makes me much more reactionary which has helped me to improve my ability to identify signals and read between the lines. If you want to practice this, then just put in less effort and start analysing more for signs. Care less about whether you bang her while you're learning. So this chick keeps stealing glances at me, some of which were certainly not looking for my face/eyes. So I indulge the conversation and talk some bullshit about being a model and getting back from an exhausting shoot.
She ate this up and was interested and asked more questions. (Seriously, me... a model. I am nowhere near good looking enough to be a model... but chicks will eat whatever bullshit you give them if they're into you. You can use stupid shit like this to test her.) It's at this point I decide I'm going to game her, throwing a quick neg about her hair being disgusting at the moment. She laughs and shoots me a smile and some eye contact. She serves my coffee and I use the chance to do some intentionally "accidental" kino. (Get that psychological barrier broken.) She asks if there's anything else she can do for me and I tell her I'll let her know. Walk off, don't look back and go enjoy my coffee. She cleans up and glances in my direction now and again. I'm busy on my phone browsing stuff while I drink my coffee and plan my next move.
With the coffee finished, I head back over to her and ask where the gents is. She tells me, but I tell her she should show me instead. She's hesitant and I point out there's nobody here to serve except me and "I require your service." (Note: If my SMV wasn't high enough, that would have come across as weird or creepy, but because my SMV is high enough, it's cute flirting.) Cheeky grin with that and she's smiling ear to ear, then comes bouncing out through the door at the side. At this point I'm pretty sure she's a little confused but also intrigued. Add some casual kino as she comes to lead the way. (Back of hands touching, arms touching, simple casual stuff when you're in her space.) I push her gently on the small of her back saying "lead on" as a way to estimate and see if there's any negative signs. None.
So we get round the corner, literally like a 20 second walk. It was truly pointless from a rational perspective, but I needed to move her to a position where I could escalate properly. There's nobody about, so I just open the disabled toilet door and say "after you." Her eyes go wide and she covers her mouth to try and hide her big smile in a slightly coy, cute way. Extended eye contact from me that she keeps breaking, she's just rooted to the spot. Probably thinking "is this really happening?" She tells me that she can't and I just continue to give her the "I'm going to fuck you senseless" look with a smirk. So I don't break eye contact and step forward and take her wrist. Then make a bit of a show of looking around and seeing nobody. I smirk and then tug her wrist gently and she follows me inside. No words. Close and lock the door and she's got her hands all over me immediately and is practically ripping at my shirt.
Not a huge amount of foreplay, but while she's sucking my dick I pick up my jacket and thank my past self for putting the couple of condoms in my wallet. Always make sure you've got some condoms on you guys. - And make sure you take the time to get condoms that fit properly, it will improve the experience immeasurably.
Anyway, we're all done and I tell her to wait inside until I knock on the door. I'll just stand outside checking my phone if anybody is around, and when the coast is clear I'll knock on the door. I don't want her to get sacked for having fun with me and giving in to the tingles. So I check the coast is clear, knock on the door and leave.
I think this FR is particularly useful to guys because you should note how little I actually said to her. Most of that was identifying opportunities and making the small escalations I could within the circumstances... most of which were heavily between the lines. Pure non-verbal communication won the day. Practice your non-verbal communication, prepare yourself to react as things develop. Sexual desire can't be negotiated, if it's there then it is there and you may act on it. If it's not, then it's not and you can't act. This was purely flying by the seat-of-my-pants and helping her into a position where she could let go to her urges without her social status being in question. Check the attraction, then escalate, use escalation as a double check and just lead her into a position where she can throw rationality out the window in favour of sexual desire. I still don't know her name and she doesn't know mine. Desire is the only thing that was important here. Probably fulfilled a fantasy of hers too... and nobody else knows except me... and probably her friends. And now you too.
EDIT: This also reminded me of a talk I watched about a year ago by Liam McRae on Rapid Escalation which is very relevant to this discussion. Take what you like from it. I'm nothing new, guys have been learning to spot the signs and escalate for years if the desire is there.
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Likely ending to the story ...
After her shift was done, the waitress went home to her flat, where her live in boyfriend Bob eagerly awaited her return. Bob greeted her at the door and gave his precious snowflake a tender kiss on her lips. "How was your day babe?" She replied, " Oh, the usual. Nothing exciting. Same boring customers except a couple of dicks, that's it." She showered and made her way to the bed when Bob made his move by massaging her shoulders. "Not tonight hon", she told him. "I'm tired. Had to do a little extra cleaning in the bathrooms tonight."
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verify_account 8y ago
Nobody here is a cuck and nobody wants to be Beta Bob. That post was a reminder not to be Bob. Be OP, be the Chad.
Quarter_Century_Club 8y ago
So much truth here! He got Chad'd.
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M0RKET 8y ago
He's more likely to find the truth if he has a painful experience. So in a grand scheme of things by cucking a guy you do him a favor.
Quarter_Century_Club 8y ago
Not a dig on him at all, just acknowledging the reality of that situation. I was Bob just a few weeks ago until I woke the fuck up.
BurnYourFlag 8y ago
Your strategy worked because it was genuine. You have to internalize The abundance mentality to the point that is natural.
[deleted] 8y ago
You just became my personal hero. I mean, she sounded like an uggo-face but still: to close that quickly in a coffee shop while she's at work? Fist-bump.
I think the point about non-verbal communication is understated. Body language makes up 70+% of how people communicate. I've realized recently how important it is to talk less, especially in a group setting, and focus more about how I'm standing/sitting, where I'm holding my drink (keep it low), and when I catch girls' eyes and smirk. Subtle movements, slow movements, and no big spastic arm gesticulations gives off that "strong, silent type" vibe that women love.
Borsao66 8y ago
One of my JSOC interrogation buds says body language is closer to 90% of the truth.
"Pay attention to what she does, not says."
laere 8y ago
I've had great success in learning body language, managing my own, and just watching other peoples from their personal interactions. A lot of people are all about "talk talk talk, be social." And I am not knocking to not have conversational skills, but body language/nonverbal is fucking huge, and being able to read it, between it, over and under it, should be on the top of any guy's list.
Also OP's style of game is very similar to mine. It's nice to see other people using things that you've done yourself.
alphabeta49 8y ago
And the introverts are rejoicing.
"You mean I don't have to approach, I just have to be in shape, read people well, and get my dick up? Done."
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Yes and no. You don't need to make a beeline for some chick on the other side of the bar. But at the same time, you can't not talk to the chick who's stood next to you at the bar that you find attractive. It's more about utilising circumstances for a more natural game rather than introvert vs extrovert. I think introverts need to break the habit of being an introvert.
This FR was all about an opportunity presenting itself. An introvert probably wouldn't have been able to seize that opportunity because even though the chick spoke to them... they wouldn't take the lead and create the situation so they could close.
alphabeta49 8y ago
I agree completely, and I made that comment somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I'm an introvert, and the techniques in your FR fit nicely in my little world. However, I also understand the need to challenge myself.
I used to think I needed to change myself to be successful. TRP and PUAs can come across as being the life of the party, so on one hand its nice to hear that you don't have to be a social butterfly to be attractive. But on the other hand, I must be completely confident in my introvert/silent/mysterious image. If I have approach anxiety, I'm not really an introvert. I'm just a loser who needs to grow a pair.
SW9876 8y ago
The best part about this story is that there is probably some guy who knows her and has a crush on her. Maybe she is working there while going through college. He admires her work ethic and dedication and intelligence. He sees her hot body and attributes it to her devotion to fitness, desire for a healthy lifestyle, and her superb athleticism. To him, she is perfect LTR material. Little does he know that she fucked some guy in a rest stop bathroom that she had met 5 minute prior when she served him coffee. The Art of Whore, gentlemen.
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Makes me realize just how many women have done exactly this that we'll never know about.
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
This excellent field report stresses the importance of taking the lead in every situation.
A skillful seducer must be able to create opportunities to isolate and escalate, and he must be able to do it in a way that affords the girl a feeling of plausible deniability for her actions (the "one thing led to another" excuse).
Unless she has an ulterior motive for fucking you, a woman will not help you seduce her. Your success is ultimately in your own hands.
TheRedWay 8y ago
Situational awareness.
With any conversion there are a number of things done right. I am particularly impressed with how aware OP was of the surroundings and how he even was thoughtful to her. Being truly in touch with your surroundings and self is what created an opportunity that not many would think to capitalize on.
The touch at the end ensuring the coast was clear was great. I could see this leading to him coming back, seeing her and she wouldn't hesitate because Nightwing branded himself as mysterious, confident, adventurous and she knows she can follow his lead after the fun.
For styling, am I right in saying that you are on the artistic side? The reason for this is that a person that is less on the creative side can still follow some basic fashion rules, but someone who truly is creative can take it to another level. Preppy is probably the easiest style to pull off because it is simple, to me at least. I was wondering if you had any further insight to provide on how you developed style or evolved your style so that we can use this to create our own personal touch.
To the downvoters/haters, regardless of whether this field report is true or not, it’s logical, well written and entertaining. It’s laid some framework that you can use to make your life more exciting, if that is your desire. Not a bad read at all.
Thank you for the contribution and keeping Red Pill interesting.
Rougepellet 8y ago
Right after reading that I realized that is one area I am really lacking in. Not just passively waiting for an opportunity of plausible deniability to appear but actively creating one. I'm still very young though so I have time to work on it
NightwingTRP 8y ago
That's not always possible. Sometimes you simply can't create the opportunity. For example, if the place wasn't deserted... I couldn't possibly have created that opportunity.
joeyvllttf 8y ago
I guess we'll just have to take your word for it. Not like there's anyway to prove this didn't happen.
[deleted] 8y ago
Excellent post. Would be interested to see what your "unique style" is.
haxjag34 8y ago
Couple questions.
The neg about her hair. How is the tone of your voice when saying it. Witty/funny or psuedo-serious?
NightwingTRP 8y ago
It was pseudo-serious with a smirk. Try to pick something true when you neg and she'll typically agree with it if she likes you. (as if to qualify herself to you and go, "oh yeah, I'm actually hotter than this.")
Don't believe I've ever used a condom for a bj. Haven't caught anything in the past and I don't think all STDs can be transferred orally... those which can have visible symptoms like herpes. So just make sure her mouth doesn't look messed up. That's just off the top of my head though. I've never actually looked into it in depth. I remember reading something once where it's actually the person who's performing the bj who is more at risk of catching something. But yeah, I think it's so common without condoms because there isn't a serious disease risk. Any experts on this are welcome to weigh in.
TRPhd 8y ago
It is possible to contract herpes without any visible sores on the other individual. It is less likely, but still possible.
It is possible to contract gonorrhea or chlamydia from receiving oral sex, but it would be unlikely.
It is more common for men to get thrush from performing oral sex on women than vice-versa.
HPV has unknown consequences for the performer of oral sex, but I've not heard of it being transmitted from the mouth to the penis. Stranger things have happened!
If she's a circus performer, she might get crabs in her beard if she gives oral... but a condom ain't gonna stop that no-how. Yee-haw, y'all!
SinisterSwindler 8y ago
Dropped in to confirm your second point.I caught chlamydia from a blow job.
Quarter_Century_Club 8y ago
LMAO! Luckily I wasn't drinking or I'd need a new keyboard.
bluedrygrass 8y ago
Say what? All stds can be transferred orally, and even if there are 0 visible sympthoms. Mouth or vagina, is still mucoses; well, maybe not all stds can, but most of them, surely.
Don't be so naive.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
you cannot transfer HIV through saliva
haxjag34 8y ago
If the individual has an open sore or cut in their mouth it's possible. I'm pretty sure there is still a risk.
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
Yes, but then it's via blood, not saliva.
EmDeeEx14 8y ago
I always found it hard to actively look for signs while having a conversation. Leads to me slipping uo my speech/ awkward moments, ect. As soon as I trip over my words I just feel it's over..
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Embrace the fuck ups then. Seriously bro, the biggest thing about good game is attitude. Care less whether you achieve the bang or not and just have some fun.
thickskinnedwhiteass 8y ago
Can you drop a few more hints about your dressing style?
NightwingTRP 8y ago
I'd rather not. It's rather... unique. But I think I can answer the question you really want to ask: what hints would you give me for finding the right style that I should wear to maximise my SMV?
Identify your personality and style of game. Are you the strong and silent type? Are you the stylish joker? Are you the life of the party? Are you the reserved intellectual? Are you the aggressive arrogant ass? Once you know this, then you want to dress a style that fits your personality, think of the stylish and attractive stereotype of that person, then add something to the style that peacocks.
Work with your real self to optimise your game, style and appearance in order to appear as natural as possible. I've said time and again that women are excellent at spotting fakes. I have had no less than 4 women now tell me straight up how they knew what was going through my head within 10 seconds of meeting me. Build on your natural self. Fake it until you make it is good advice, but I would add that you need to build on your natural self so that the transition to that attractive version of yourself you want to be is easier.
rp-oldgame 8y ago
Excellent advice. Adam Corolla once said that his advice to his son would be to take whatever you're into, and be the 'most' at it... If he's a surfer to be the most 'surfer-y' guy, if he's in a band, to dress the most rock and roll out of all the other band guys, if he was into tattoos to be the guy with the most tattoos, if he was a nerd to be the biggest nerd on the planet.
He then explained further by saying, "Women date like they're a casting director... This month I need a surfer, this month I need a stock broker, this month I need an rock-and roll guy. Whatever you're doing, you have to be THE guy, there can't be any mistake about what you are."
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Amazing advice. If I may also recommend, from personal experience, make friends with a professional men's clothier. Someone who wheels and deals with high rollers. They can help your style become the head turner you dream about.
trinitys_dildo 8y ago
I also am interested in your style but not about what it is but at what level it is compared to guys around you. I can't even imagine its context.
Is it as outrageous (in its context) as this ? Or just more unique but not at a different level like the guy on the right here ?
Quarter_Century_Club 8y ago
This dude is swimming in pussy. SMV = ∞
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Somewhere in between. But closer to the second example. My clothing choices are not out of place... but they're not always in line with what other people around me are wearing either. And as much as I wish I could pull off some kind of outrageous Michael Jackson style outfit... my status is simply not high enough to look that cool. Personally I don't think the guy on the right really stands out much from the other two.
trinitys_dildo 8y ago
Thanks I think I get where you're at now.
Agreed that was my example of unique but "at the same level". Granted his shirt has a collar and the other two are wearing t-shirts
Sdom1 8y ago
A lot of field reports seem weird and contrived to me, but this one is spot on. If the opportunity is there, the girl lets you know. She's not going to come out and tell you, but if you're not stuck in your own thoughts it's pretty fucking obvious. At that point, you just have to know the basic principles, which you illustrated well here.
CuntyMcFagNuts69 8y ago
Honestly I found that situations like this always workout best. Granted I am in a LTR that I'm happy with but I still "game" to keep up and fight off the beta. The times when I am just sitting at a grill watching football, out at a cigar bar or just sipping a coffee outside with no fucks to give is when women swarm.
Boovs4life 8y ago
How can a woman tell what your SMV is?
SeekingTheWay 8y ago
there is no objective SMV, there is just percieved SMV and in HER eyes, his SMV was high enough
[deleted] 8y ago
Unbelievable.. one day I'll reach this level. Still fumbling around with reading the signs, but getting better at it every day.
fasterpussycatdie 8y ago
Don't mean to be a wet blanket, but I'm going to give you a bit of a reality check.
I'm sure you think this was all about your mad seduction skills but I assure you, it was not. Any chick that is going to bang out some strange dude who pulls in to a truck stop has serious, SERIOUS issues. I am sure you were not the first, nor will you be the last. I mean come on, you have got to recognize that.
And seriously this FR sounds like an impending sex addiction waiting to happen. Anonymous sex at a truck stop, really?
I await the down vote to oblivion...goodnight everybody!
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I agree with this, it wasn't purely the OP doing proper TRP basics and applying them. The woman was also in a spot where she was just straight DTF at that exact moment. At work, even. Something was up, argument with boyfriend, daddy issues getting out of hand that day in particular, she had some kind of trigger. OP was smart enough to read her like a book and good enough to play her like a fiddle, still clapping my hands over reading this field report.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
These are reasonable points. However you are needlessly confrontational by calling me "kiddo."
In my experience butterfaces do tend to have some issues. I assume it's because they've been gifted such a great body and see women with less attractive bodies getting more attention than them, and that they can only seem to get attention by flaunting their bodies.
Thanks for the warning on the sex addiction. However, I think I should be okay. I tend to keep long term plates rather than lots of ONSs.
fasterpussycatdie 8y ago
You're right. Old guy, I tend to do that. I edited it.
There are times, with some women where you'd think you were some sort of zen like game god, but really all you needed was a dick and the ability to convert oxygen to carbon dioxide. Right place, right time, right slut.
situ139 8y ago
do people actually believe this shit.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
I don't really care if you believe me or not. Check my post history and you'll find numerous examples of where I state that I don't really care if someone doesn't find my stuff useful. My responsibility is providing it. Yours is about whether you can add something and your current comment adds nothing. I've checked your post history and you seem like someone who hasn't entirely swallowed the pill. Either that or you're so deep in the anger phase that you feel the insecure need to try and put other peoples' accomplishments down.
If it's the former, you shouldn't be posting. If it's the latter then I'm happy to throw you a little advice. Don't make postings like this. Just downvote and move on. You just look bitter and it's a very beta trait to display bitterness. You need to work it out of your system or it will lower your SMV. Women need to drag down competition, MEN will work to outdo the competition.
Regardless of whether you think my particular story is true... shit like this happens. Remember the story about the girl who cried rape in that bar in the disabled toilet? The bar then released the CCTV showing she happily followed him in there and then clung to him for like an hour afterwards. Therefore, either you care about this type of sex and should be aspiring to this level of game. Or you don't care, in which case it begs the question as to why you are posting a reply.
This is not even the strangest sex story I have in my repertoire. I did a previous FR ages ago which I had to take down because the night was so bizarrely unique that the girl would have been able to identify herself from it. Naturally it was said when the bloopers got a hold of it that it was complete fiction... but I can happily swear on my mother's life that it was true and such bizarre night did happen and it did culminate in sex. So I'm already used to that and I don't care about it. What I do care about, is about you and giving you the chance to recognise your fault and improve yourself.
But ultimately that is your choice, not mine. Therefore it is not my responsibility. By writing this message, I've fulfilled my responsibility as an EC to offer help to others. Now I can only hope you recognise what I've said and act in your best interests.
LazyMagus 8y ago
Beautiful reply, man. Any possibility of finding your strange sex story? If you saved it somewhere can you message me?
NightwingTRP 8y ago
It is saved, ask me again in a few months when you've got plenty more experience and comments under your belt. I couldn't send it to a new account with few Red Pill comments because of the obvious trust issue.
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alphabeta49 8y ago
I'll take a copy. Its friday, I'm bored at work, and could use a little entertainment.
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FrameWalker 8y ago
Yes this is real. Women ready to fuck all the time for AF
Incubus130 8y ago
Quick question. How good do you look? Not knocking your skills but are you like 6ft Nice face? Really don't think I could do this. I'm average face and a little short.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
I'm short. Or at least I consider myself short since most men around me are taller than me. I play the game with an automatic minus one to my base SMV.
My looks are pretty average. From what I recall when I was younger and checked those rate me sites as a teen, I was typically voted a 3 or 4 out of 10. I think one chick voted me an 8 and I was thrilled for the day. Having good looks is like adding +2 to your base SMV. Being average subtracts nothing.
Work on your body, the muscles will counteract the shortness to some extent and maybe even flip the scales a little. Style is essential. Game is absolutely mandatory. Attitude is everything. Have a read of my TRP Field Toolkit series if you haven't seen it already.
More importantly than this, adopt the attitude of the underdog and great willingness to next a chick who shows no interest. No matter how good your game, how good you look or how high your status... there are women out there who will reject you. Maybe they're currently dating movie star or something, or maybe they were alpha widowed by a professional athlete and see many high status men as unworthy of her. It's a fucked up, overly entitled bunch of women out there... but they're in massive numbers and most are willing to take an interest in a top 20% man regardless of his height or looks not being in the top 10%. Do you see what I'm saying?
Abundance, confidence and attitude. Internalise them all as a matter of priority.
Incubus130 8y ago
Thanks for the reply. I'm 5'5 by the way and I'm already in the gym. I know that for me a good body is mandatory. I'm working on confidence. I approach everyone on the city bus and talk to everyone at the bus stops. Its exhausting but that's why I need to keep going.
Will read the Tool Kit.
TRPhd 8y ago
Constant approach is good for your professional skillset too.