Just saw this exact topic on TF1, the french mainstream channel ! Conclusion was : "according to specialists, women are right because they want to use less energy on AC"...

The temperature adjustments in office buildings are more of an architectural/engineering issue than simply turning a themostat...

If the air handler is close by you, you're going to have a bad time.

Women are too comfortable. They need drama to live and have a nagging unquenchable need to spout out nonsense to test men. Men being men, they invented things to make the household chores and activities easier and more efficient: the vacuum cleaner, microwave, conventional oven, wash & dryer, sweeper vac, sewage system, the toilet, the sink, the refrigerator, the freezer, etc. The problem is that by relieving women of hardship, they have nothing keeping them occupied and are left to their own devices to entertain themselves. When the environment fails to create anxiety, she will conjure it. Manspreading, gender plowing, patriarchy, rape culture, gamer gate, 'equality in the household chores', etc is all a manifestation of women's need for drama and shit testing.

My mother always said "If that is your biggest problem, You should be happy"

Where my Grand Mother would say "Stop complaining and do something useful. Take the rifle and go and get dinner"

And my Father "Son, you seem to assume I care about your piss ant problems. Now fuck off and so something constructive"

And my Grand Father would just mutter "Pussy" and walk off in disgust.

Ultimately, these bitches (Not in the sense of just women, but pussy men) shouldn't get such a complaint looked into. Take what strategy you want. I am sticking with my Grand Fathers approach.

...."Pussy"....

This is just another dumb fucking story to feed the men vs. women narrative.

Everyone has their own version of what's comfortable. I'm sure some men like it warmer than 69 degrees in the office. I know I do.

wear more clothes to work or wear pantyhose and bring a sweater.

Wow. That's all I can say. This reads like an extreme parody of feminism.

I was laughing while reading this. I kind of think the more of this crap that gets pumped out the more people are going to start ignoring it. It's TOO ridiculous.

AC couldn't be about the computers and other electrical equipment that give off heat that need to be cool to last long and work efficiently.

I mean that's just one of the many factors. They just came up with another thing to blame men for.

You go to work to work. Not be comfortable, or wear a cute summer dress. What about the men who wear suits in this weather, or all year round?

Bring a sweater or something to keep warm.

Man these women are so dumb. There are women getting stoned to death and they're worried about who is controlling the thermostat. Glad they're making themselves look so stupid.

Everyone's overlooking the obvious.

If people prefer different temperatures it's better to err on the side of colder, because it's easier to put on a sweater than to stop sweating.

Not that complicated.

Imagine working in a bank and being in a suite in a 77 degree office.

Put some clothes on, ladies.

Anyone whose worked in an office will tell you that women complain about temperatures all the time. However, women have much greater options in their wardrobe and are solely responsible for being comfortable. To blame this on men or anyone else is pathetic, albeit not surprising

perhaps she would prefer to "slave over a hot stove" instead of working in an office?

Hey there aren't probably any office thermostats deep down in a coal mine... why not work there ladies? In fact.. I demand equality and we put MORE women into coal mines.

I honestly feel dumber just reading that.

And this woman is (metaphorically) freezing herself out of the office by writing a thousand words on thermostat temperatures instead of developing a useful fucking skill. I guess it all works out in the end.

It's all about the entitlement for the Female Feelz!

/s

Everything oppressing them is Evil plot against all whom possess a Vagina. Even if you have a paper tray which will cause her to bend too low for her comfort because she is wearing unrealistic heels for after friday party.

Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNH0bmYT7os

Actually it's more than likely the fat females in the office who are responsible for it being colder than Hillary's twat in there.

Every office has a fatty, who insists on it being super cold because they are covered in mounds of fat.

Meanwhile men get cooked during the winter when they crank up all the heaters. I say we make a deal with women. We will set the temp halfway between those numbers. In the summer, women can put on a light sweater to keep warm. In winter, men can strip naked and jiggle their balls around in the open air so they don't get too sweaty.

Compromise, right?

I work shift work and have let all my co-workers (male and female) know that I own the thermostat while I'm on shift and it will be permanently set to 68 degrees all year long. I was challenged for thermostat-ownership once, during winter, and just opened my office window and left the door open. The challenger relented and bought himself a sweater vest and a space heater.

I was just thinking about this article when you posted it. One of the "researchers" even said that part of the reason is men wear suits and ties. and women show cleavage. So maybe women should wear the same amount of clothing as men??? But no that's slut shaming.

If it is literally too cold they can take up the job of trash collector. Here in Texas it reaches a nice 90-100+ degrees in the summer!

Some how women won't be clamoring for 50/50 equality in that profession

She wants women to be able to cocktease better.

Fuck her.

Yeah, like men WANT to wear stuffy shirts and suits.

No office I've been in enforces the dress code on women. So either you get rid of the dress code for men or at least you put in some goddamn A/C, especially in the summer.

But my solution is even more sensible: either kick women out of the workplace again or at least segregate them. Mixed workforces have been an unmitigated disaster.

I've run a small business before, and women are the absolute worst workers I've ever seen and cause ridiculous office drama where there doesn't need to be any. At least one week out of every month they are even more inept than they usually are. If you have several female employees they can be awful all month long. It is funny in a way.

Once again, Feminism has proven that there is no glass ceiling when it comes to reaching the upper limits of mental retardation; that even the natural confines of average intelligence quotient can be overcome through hard work and dedicated cognitive sacrifice.

What do you do if you're too cold?

1. Put on more clothing
2. Go get a hot beverage
3. Do some exercise, stretching, walking, etc...
4. Get a small space heater for $20

What do you do if you're too hot?

1. Suffer

Just told my dad about this and he told me they had this same drama in the 80's at his workplace. They solved it by rigging the thermometers to show 3 degrees more than the actual temperature was and all the women were happy with how warm it was after that. The lesson of the story is quite obvious

New "research" based on a sample size of 16 women

I couldn't make it any further..

See now this is why this girl is stupid.

If she went to her boss with the suggestion, "why don't use less AC and see if we can save some money on power without losing work productivity" she might have gotten her way, a slightly warmer workplace.

Instead she had to frame it as, "turn up the thermostat otherwise you are a woman hater" and turn the whole thing into a big deal where the boss is now damned if you do damned if you don't.

Women have a ~25% lower metabolic rate than men and typically have less thermal mass to buffer temperature changes, since they're smaller and shorter. I don't blame them for complaining about it.

As for me, i went from 270lbs to 185lbs in a year and noticed that i am way more sensitive to the cold. I live with 2 women and set the thermostat to 75 degrees as a compromise.

These problems are easily solved and do not require drama fits to figure out.

The author of some bitch with a bull dyke haircut. Of course. It all makes sense.

When I was younger, I always got put in the hot, sweaty, manual labor jobs outside. I wanted to work inside in the office, but that was always for the ladies. Inside had no bugs, no backbreaking work, the same or better pay, access to the bosses, and that glorious air conditioning.

Holy shit, if the AC is just a little too cold, maybe consider going to work some of that backbreaking and dangerous work outside. There will be a young man, very happy to take your place.

It's shit like this that makes people revert to the anger phase.

One thing to realize is that you're better off with people being chilly than hot

People who feel too hot are far more irritable and there's nothing you can do about it. If my office is almost 80 degrees I'm miserable and sweaty and disrobing isn't an option.

If my office is 55 degrees I wear a jacket and I'm fine.

This is true where I work, but that has more to do with being an old building with uneven AC. It can easily be 75 degrees in the main office spaces and 55 in some of the conference rooms.

The irony here is that the HR department is always the first to bail en masse when the AC hiccups and the mercury hits 80.

Standards for comfort in the working environment are set by ASHRAE Standard 55 and are very dependant on relative humidity. The numbers and models might have been developed in the 60s but the standard was updated in 2013. In fact, just looking at wikipedia page for thermal comfort gives 4 different models so this stuff runs pretty deep and gets quite complex. This is an entire field in academics that starts at the master's level in mechanical engineering but I doubt our intrepid author wants to go that deep. Better to just insist that my collection of 16 people's opinions overturns this entire field and all the research that they have worked hard doing.

Hello, I'm a 1970s feminist transported to the modern time... And what is this article about?

The epitome of 3rd world problems

Half the women in my office bitch about the environment while running a space heater full bore for 10 months out of the year at their desks. It got so bad that our parent company actually had to ban them because they had almost doubled our electrical costs.

They're almost all in the over-40 set, I have no idea if that has anything to do with their incessant bitching about the temperature.

A sample size of 16 women? If you live in any decent sized city in the country, you could triple that sample size in a half hour by just hanging around outside and asking chicks questions.

She has confused the US with Canada. Canada recommends 69-73°F, the US recommends 68-76.

Also, "literally freezing" would mean a temperature quite a bit below 32°F. Maybe somewhat pedantic, but "literally" is a good word with no good substitute and I hate to see it lose its meaning.

I for one support raising the temperature as our reptilian overlords suggest. The increased temperature of the room working in tandem with underwear heat packets should inhibit sperm production and Gene hijacking. A little discomfort for long term wellbeing.

Slightly off topic, my friend moved to a place where propane for heat had to be delivered by truck which was stupid expensive. His wife had a habit of turning the thermostat to its highest setting if she felt cold, and would never comprehend explanations of how a thermostat works and admonitions to turn it up a few degrees and wait.

So he made a circuit that caused the heater to kick on for a few minutes when the thermostat was moved, but then it reverted to the control of a hidden thermostat his wife didn't know about.

In my own house I had the same problem with basically every GF ever, but I was more obvious about it and put a stop screw at 75.

Jesus fucking Christ... This whole thing just REEKS of First World Problems.

Seeing shit like this is making me, more and more, open to the idea of Sharia Law.

So, she's admitting that men are better at something (staying warm).

Fucking misogynist bitch

This popped up on the Australian news website I read this morning. In the Aussie version they also managed to wedge in the whole 77% pay garbage and it was much more aggressively written. I was going to post it but you've already done the heavy lifting.

All the comments on the article were predictably boring.

Having been to Iraq and lived in Europe, air conditioning isn't nearly as widespread as it is in the US. You learn to dress for your environment and stay hydrated if you're overheated.

These girls wouldn't last two days outside the US.

"Put on a fucking sweater!"

-Dad

Y'know that stove in the kitchen will keep the ladies plenty warm.... ;)

I saw this reported on by some serious news outlets...how utterly pathetic.

"Adjust cooling levels to account for women's comfort" and "dramatically slash energy consumption" while you're at it.

Assuming you're cooling and not heating. For much of the year in much of the world, this would mean more heating rather than less cooling, for a net increase in energy consumption.

You'd think women would want it cooler so they can put more clothes on and escape all this workplace sexual harassment I hear so much about. From women.

I'd be fine with a higher temperature, so long as I can take my shirt off.

Everyone is more alert and efficient in a cooler temperature. If you're too cold, put on a sweater.

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I do commercial hvac for a living. No such thing as a comfortable temperature for a woman. I find the placebo works best. Just say I made whatever adjustment and they are validated in thinking they used their power to solve it. Seriously, complaining woman make up for 30-40% of my work load.

Get warm by working harder.

How does this stupidity survive bullying? Jeez...

You know what would warm her up a bit.

gaslighting.

They won't drag you out if you're hot in a speedo.

Well women aren't forced to wear fucking tie, suit and jacket are they? They waltz in wearing whatever they want each day. Goddamn female manager walked in yesterday wearing jeans, which are supposed to be prohibited.

I'm glad my female co - workers aren't massive fucktards when it comes to "feminists" like these. They just put a coat on when it's too cold. You know, like anyone with the ability to think outside a hive mind will do.

Yup, we call it Operation: Glass Cutter.

A sneaky plot to find the hardest pokey nipples in the office.

Because mens suits are so cool and refreshing to wear.

For the love of god please stop giving this idea any attention whatsoever. I work for a dumb hippy feminist cunt and if she sees this she's going to start running the heater in August.

The problem with my office is that they do not adjust the temperature between summer and winter. It is always about 70 degrees. If it is 100 degrees outside in the summer, I freeze at 70 degrees. And the AC consumes an insane amount of energy. I would be okay with 77 degrees in the summer.

I am quite sure she or the editor meant "Men are figuratively freezing women out of the workplace." Unless there is actual freezing involved.

They have to come up with something new and unique in order to really get ATTENTION.

This puts a further nail in the coffin of the Wage Gap Myth. Unless some feminist can explain why a for-profit corporation would employ any men at all, when they could just employ all women instead, save 33% of salary expenses, and spend less on AC/HVAC.

Actually if you look at the biology women have more body fat which is a great insulator, which means that women on average can be comfortable in lower temperatures than men.

However, if you walk around a lot, stressing, working hard, your body temperature will rise. But if you sit still doing close to nothing you will create much less heat. So how hard you work, and what clothes you wear affect how comfortable you feel in a current room temperature.

I prefer higher temperatures myself, and consider 23 Celsius (73.4 fahrenheit) to be the perfect indoor temperature, so I can wear just a tshirt. However, in most government and office buildings they keep it lower than that. 20-21 celsius (68-69 fahrenheit) is common. In my country it is to save money on heating though, and it is a factor that people get more lazy in warmer temperatures.

According to the author of this article

I gotta ask though: why are you giving a fuck about this? it's another lazy talentless hack trying to score point with the easily outraged and the campaign-happy slacktivists who will get behind a "raise the temps" pseudomovement. Something like this comes out pretty much every hour.

Also, google the author's face. She couldn't get more stereotypical "professional bitchy lesbian turbofeminist" if she died her hair pink. It's another cunt trying to cash in on social media feminism, let's just ignore her.

They should move to Europe. Most buildings do not have AC. So it will be hot in them in Summer. But else I somewhat agree. Cooling down to 70 when it's 90 outside is a waste of energy. 77 (eg. 25 °C) is perfectly fine temperature when it's 90 outside. This should work in most office environments in which you aren't limited by a dress code. If men have to wear suits and women dresses, then one could see that this is a problem.

In fact I find it amazing that this has not been identified as an area were companies can save a ton of money. Less cooling. Power really seems to be dirt cheap in US.

In contrast in Winter 70 seems ok. You are wearing a sweater anyway when it below freezing outside...And saves energy and money.

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Go home feminists, you're drunk.

This study can't be right, any job I had were women put themselves in charge of the thermostat, it was always too damn cold, because they were obese or alcoholics sweating it out.

I don't believe it. I worked in 2 companies that were 99% women. They always bitched and moaned when the temp was above 72 and made a point of asking around to see who changed the temperature. A witch hunt over the thermostat! LOL. There is always some older woman getting hot flashes. They hate nothing more than to sweat.

Just stop wearing deodorant then.

Honestly i dont think it relates to men or women lol. i work min wage but i work out in 90-100 degree temps. 1st thing a women does when she comes outside is say it's too hot out there but im use to it! i will admit though i pretty much leave a window open in my room during the winter time. house gets too hot. :)