This happened with the ex that landed me here. Shed contact me occasionally for an emotional pick me up and when I didn't budge she'd bail. Last time was last valentine's day. I got back to her a week later. After it was clear she wasn't going to get my attention she stopped talking. Shortly after she was in a relationship. It was funny.

Is it actually possible to stay RP while being in monogamous relationship? Or will it always lead to entering girls frame as she is the one who would like you to be her own?

The issue with the premise is that look at girl one:

she was banging this taller dude with tats and a bigger dick. When he didn't commit she tried her roster for commitment feeling used and hurt

You act like she only wanted commitment after she was reject but she clearly wanted commitment all along, she was just aiming for as high as she can go and like all modern women overestimated her value thinking because this guy will use her as a fuck sleeve she is on his level. Modern women pretty much only offer pussy because they refuse to learn feminine qualities which are actually good qualities for any person, like cleaning up after yourself or being able to cook.

The lessons here are the same as always, be the best that you can be, trust their actions not their words, etc. Posts like these still reek of anger phase beta qualities that miss the forest for the trees.

Women are all prostitutes. They all expect something for sex. Sex for Sex sake is a man only thing.

I learned that lesson rather the hard way. I gladly admit that I was the worlds biggest AFC/Beta or whatever you wanna call it. I also admit that this might still be the case even though I have swallowed a great portion of the pill but I have been subjected to such a great amount of AFC/Beta Brainwashing that I am afraid this shit will never come off completely.

If you have sex with a woman, no matter what the circumstances, she considers you in debt. After all, she was "generous" enough to give you pussy. You might tell her beforehand your "conditions", you might let her sign a contract, you might fucking take her to church and take a wow on gods glorious name not to keep you liable for anything that happens in bed. She will still hold you liable for having sex with her. Thats how she thinks and no amount of reason or logic will stop her at that.

You have sex with her, you are her bitch...at least from her point of view.

It takes a superhero alpha to keep her in line forever. For all of us normal mortals, there is always a countdown. Depending on how much alpha you are, you might get more generous time from her but at some point, she will demand payment and if you dont pay, even if it hurts her, she will take her leave to look for someone who will.

The Housing Bubble is nothing compared to the Bubble of Pussy. Thanks to Mens inability to control themselves and their desires, womens worth is skyrocketing to new heights. If this continues, even alphas will have a hard time affording the amount of pussy they demand for a reasonable amount of effort.

Just take a look at the amount of interest men are ready to show towards even the most mediocre of pussy in social networks.

Sure, you can always be a better "alpha" and not care about this but tell me, how much effort do you consider is worth for a HB6 to 9?(forget 10, only a fraction of men will be able to afford a 10, just assume you are not among them and you wont be wrong).

When being a Millionaire isnt enough will you then try to be a Billionaire just to get pussy? When having a good Body is not enough will you then try to get a godly Body? (while at the same time getting to be a Billionaire?) When being smart and intelligent is not enough will you then try to be brilliant and genius? (while at the same time getting a godly body and being a Billionaire)

At what point will you realize that a day has 24 hours and a week only 7 days and a life just too short to do all of this? When is the point reached where we consider a deal "Everything in exchange for just pussy" a bad deal?

Where is the point where we men have a soul and interests of our own and not live for pussy alone?

Strangely I found no answers to these questions in any TRP Theories. All they ever say is "Lift".

How she acts:

To girls, we as men are not people but toys to be possessed. Flesh dildos that cum money.

What she says:

Oh. my. GOD. You're, like literally objectifying me you right now misogynist pig!

Women only want monogamy when their time is running out and their quality takes a noticeable drop.

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This is the most lyrical thing that I have red here so far. Beautiful yet so true.

All these three scenarios have one thing in common. You SMV is increasing while their value is decreasing. If you ask them, none of these women would admit the reason behind their actions, but they instinctively know that their value is declining. So they need to score the best blue pilled billy as soon as possible.

So girl #2 actually really likes you and wants to be with you on a more permanent basis and.... no?

Don't get me wrong, I can respect that, but it seems like there is something I'm missing here. You think she's looking for a sugar daddy as she is a very sweet girl and quite feminine. Do you think maybe she's just into you hardcore?

How does this apply to hypergamy though. If they are looking for the next best thing and seeing to move up? If they find a better looking/higher value/etc man but they went control him, how does this mesh with this message?

Remember men she only wants monogomy when she's already been giving out pussy like a Chinese chicken sampler at the mall. For some women it's control. For some women it's comfort. For others it's settling for the next bidder. But for each reason, it has always come about because the woman did not get what she wanted in return for giving out pussy for free.

Exchanging sex against resources is a beta bux -type relationship. Though it's pretty clear in your text that you weren't acting beta.

The way I'd analyze it is that all these girls started feeling the need to settle (comfort). They tried to settle for the highest SMV man in their current roster (you?) but you wouldn't give the exclusivity that settling (comfort) requires by definition. I don't think they're upset they "gave their pussy away for free". If you're alpha, sex with you is not a trade for something: they just genuinely enjoy the tingles. But if you don't offer commitment at a time of their life they need it, AND since they know they can only get commitment from a man by being (at least apparently) exclusive to him, they've got to stop the sexual relationship with you (temporarily).

I think The Red Pill is a legitimate answer to the hijacked, degenerate Cultural Marxist society we live in. It may satisfy us as men for a while, but I think we have a higher duty than bathing ourselves in dopamine released by sex. We have to save our Western White civilization. The Nuclear Family is the only way to save our people. It's sad to see this happening...

I think you make a mistake when you tell a girl you are non-monogomous and that it's ok if she is too. It's not ok for her to be non-monogomous. She's a woman. No good woman sleeps with multiple men at once. A good man does though. My message to plates is this "I am a real man. I sleep with as many women as I want and it's none of your business. Take it or leave it. As for you, if I ever find out you've let another man touch you, we're done."

That double standard shit actually works for me. It's crazy.

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I am confused by the purpose of this post.

Women want to fuck hot/masculine guys. For pleasure. Women want money. For her shoes, bags, etc. Women want kids. To satisfy human nature? To have a responsibility? Women want commitment. To satisfy their ego? To have comfort?

Although all of these are valuable to them, they are in a hurry to get the last two.

This guy wanted to continue spinning plates. He won’t give them monogamous commitment, money, and kids. Therefore, the girls chose to leave.

The women knew their value and capability to have kids is going down as time passes on. Also, their physical appearance will not improve over time. Therefore, they have no time to waste. That’s why they made new boyfriends, who were willing to give them commitment and money, immediately after they stopped hanging out with the guy. They have been banging hot/masculine guys before. They are confident they can find hot/masculine guys later.

The guy has lost these plates but there is no issue because he can just find new girls to fuck.

What was the surprise for the guy? What’s the new important lesson that he learned? I feel like I missed something. Can somebody help me understand?

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Yep. That about sums it up. Don't forget this, don't ever fucking forget this. It's not even malicious, that's just the way they are. (Most of them)

You can see this from both perspectives. I get your point for not wanting to be monogamous, and they probably hoped to be that with you. Since they didn't see any future with you, they hopped to something where they have security. It only makes sense.

Having plates and fucking around is fun, but there are people who would prefer a single partner to invest everything in too. I have work, I have my own things I want to do in my free time, and when I had to maintain 3 plates I found it a nightmare. Now I just have a main one and a orbiter I see occasionally and it works just about right for me.

But maybe because just fucking doesn't do it really for me. Eventually it gets normal and you just wish for something more exciting like downhill mountainbiking or whatever. That's just me.

As for the women just getting a boyfriend the next day, you were as much of a plate for them as they were for you. She just stringed them along until they decided who will become the boyfriend. You didn't become it, so number 2 did, and since you weren't available, number 2 was the next best thing.

It's a buyers market for women, they get countless offers and they pick the best.

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I think you waste your life with the "Enjoy the Decline" mindset.

Switch to:

 

• Enjoy the Destruction of the Blue Pill mythology.

 

In other words the pursuit of hedonism is and always will be a dead end. Plates will lose interest because they realize it's a waste of time to be with you and get on with living their own lives.

Better to switched to the Amused Mastery mindset and actually use your Game skill to bend the women into creatures under your control.

By definition a Plate is a woman you have no control over as she is motivated only by her own hedonism.

Hedonism is a weak bond... it's next to nothing.

Ideally we want that masculine-to-feminine dynamic where she is the well trained girl and you enjoy being her master.

Plates are just random sluts... not trained... loosely affiliated.

 

Somehow I think a lot of guys stuck in this hedonism obsession believe they are proving something by doing it. Probably the best thing is to wake up and realize all the "proving" means nothing. No one cares how much hedonism you experience... no one cares how much cake you force into your mouth.

 

• The stoic mindset is the opposite of hedonism.

 

Both girls and boys have been robbed of a proper education on gender relations in our modern society. I feel like if only these girls were taught by a good mother how to behave, they wouldn't be acting in such a shitty and desperate manner.

"Giving out pussy like chicken at the mall"

Greatest quote about these hoes...

Damn. Thanks man. You really opened my eyes wide awake. This form of classifed information is absolutely essential for every man to know. Thanks again. Stay safe men..

You definitely offer some good insight here into the possessive nature of committing to a woman. She'll pretend as though she really likes you. But then as soon as it's revealed that she can't own you, you are replaced in a matter of hours by someone (less desirable) who will do her bidding. Now that's what I call objectification.

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I'm confused. You say that some of these women want monogamy because giving away the pussy for free didn't give them what they wanted. We all know women desire commitment. But if they were "giving away the pussy" for commitment, doesn't that mean they wanted monogamy in the first place? Monogamy has always been their goal. They just wanted monogamy with a more valuable male.

Girl one is clearly a case of this. Girl two is similar, looking to get commitment from higher value men but then settled for a poly situation until she rejected it in search of, you guessed it, commitment. Girl three couldn't get it from you, so she compromised her standards all in the name of commitment.

Monogamy is the exact opposite of a last minute precaution for women. They desire it innately, but only with men they truly respect. What you're pointing out is how easily they compromise their standards to achieve this monogamy.

I think some girls really are driven insane by the thought of, or a short ride on, the carousel. So much that they would rather lower standards to be with a boyfriend than be a cock jumping whore.

It's fucked up either way, she'll either date losers or have casual sex with winners. Either way she's damaged goods. All the more reason to land em when they're young, gents. Higher chance of being in that situation where you and the girl are both getting what you want. Thanks for the post!

Lesson learned: It's okay for the GUY to be one of her many options (and easily replaced) but when a guy treats a lady like that, he is "USING" her for sex. Sure.

A man should only settle down with a woman that was virgin when he meet her.

Dude I'm so sorry you've been treated like this by manipulative women. I hope you find a good one sooner rather than later. Redpilled women exist, as I am one and have been in a stable relationship for 3 years. I have only been with 2 men in my life, and I wish I had only been with my current bf. We intend on marrying within the next 4 years. We are both conservative and met in college. I only know 3 or 4 other women who share my views and lifestyle but we exist. Maybe look in the physical science field. I'm a physicist and he's a mathematician. The only women I know who are decent are in those fields (one in geology, one in astronomy, one in chemistry) and I do have a limited social field to be fair. Very hard to find us though, I can't stand 99% of other women, they're shallow and manipulative, impossible to befriend as they'll stab you in the back. :/ Try checking out some of subs like femininenotfeminist or womenfortrump or pm me. Good luck dude!

Your problem is you are speaking overtly of non-monogamy.

They're being covert and sending you guarded language about wanting to lock you down.

You need to be socially-aware, and use more tact when you tell a girl that you're going to continue fucking other women.

Your plates drop because you go full-autism level of "I will keep fucking other women". Don't say that shit, imply that shit. Imply that they still have a chance.

Remember men she only wants monogomy when she's already been giving out pussy like a Chinese chicken sampler at the mall.

all humor aside, this is true for the majority of women. not all of course, but one of the behaviors that i've witnessed that repeat themselves over and over is this particular one.

remember, girls just wanna have fun. when the wall gets nearer that's when they'll start flipping pages in their book of exes (you know those guys that they told "i'm just not ready for anything serious right now, i want to experience new things (cocks) in life") to see if they can lock one of the good guys down.

one tip, if an old ex comes back out of the blue trying to get back together - run.

what's a chinese chicken sampler?