Don't feel like I need to be a man that's dated crazy to know crazy, I'm a girl who's had friends with issues and out of all the mentally ill women I have known I can tell you guys this: do not stick your dick in bipolar.

Bipolar girls love to talk shit, it makes them feel more stable with their own issues and gives them a toxic superiority complex. after dealing with a bipolar friend who would convince me this one guy was a terrible human being so I would never talk to him, then go on to date him the next day, insult a group of other girls in our high school, hang out with said group the next day, repeatedly leave me stranded in places where we were supposed to meet because at the very last second she decided to go drinking with the most grossest men you can find at a bar,

and basically just do anything that she could to let everyone know she was never ever reliable. On top of literally acting like a nut-job I can safely say i'm staying far away from these people till they get proper help.

I remember this one time all I wanted to do was show her a funny comic strip on my phone and she freaked the fuck out "I CAN'T READ THIS IT'S TOO MANY WORDS" and slammed my phone back down on the cafe table we were seated at, freaked out again because she almost broke my phone, proceeded to get up and run with her hands covering her face like she was embarrassed and I had to take off after her while convincing the owners we were okay.

Y'know how female influencers with bipolar have ALWAYS ended up doing something massively hypocritical? it's not a coincidence. They literally are emotionally draining assholes.

OF YOU HAVE A MENTAL ISSUE DO NOT TRY TO DATE ANYBODY

I think when a woman is very mean or nasty and blames anxiety, past issues, or her upbringing, its a red flag as well. Then, they rope you back into the cycle of emotional abuse with good behavior, forcing you to walk on egg shells to avoid another blow up. In essence, their crazy behavior drives your behavior to conform to what they are trying to control you to do. It's a hard cycle to break, especially when feelings are deep, but it will never get better.

I'd say don't date the men with mental health issues, either. The possessive and controlling types. If you are 5 minutes late coming home, he will grill you with questions and accuse you of some terrible stuff, like cheating. ^this is usually caused my massive amounts of insecurity and and unresolved trauma; such as a guy's past lover cheating on him and now he is super on the edge about all women cheating on him. He never truly healed and now projects these insecurities onto all women he is interested in. When someone confronts him with these issues, he becomes VERY defensive and takes serious offense from what you are saying. You are just trying to help him, but he is taking the help as passive aggressive fighting words. He thinks he is in the right and will not self-reflect or see that he is doing wrong. I have had personal experience with this. Almost had a really good southern fella except his crazy showed the second day of me talking to him. He was very triggered from what I was saying, sounded like a guilty conscience. If he was truly comfortable with himself, he would not take offense.

Everyone is a little crazy to a degree, what matters is that we work on ourselves and better ourselves. I wouldn't mind a guy that is a little depressed sometimes, as it comes and goes throughout life for all of us. As long as he works hard, sticks to his grind, takes care of himself, etc. Nobody wants to date you if you never take showers and you live with your mom or grandparents because you have no motivation to better yourself and your situation. The same goes for women, if you are seeking someone, your partner, LTR, pick a female that has her shit together and has an insane amount of ambition. There are all sorts of red flags to look out for. A big one, IMO, is her social media. This is coming from the perspective of a young woman who, for a few years, used to use social media heavily, trying to fit in with the 'popular' girls who would get 100 likes on their selfie posts and seemingly a lot of praise. (my posts never got as much as the IG thots got, so I switched to political memes, then eventually just deleted my IG). If her social media is filled with selfies of herself, RUN. She is narccissistic. You can tell a lot from someone's social media, the things they love would be in their posts/photos. It's all them? They love themselves and their ego. A good woman knows her worth and does not rely on the validation of others (often times strangers) to know that she is pretty. If her social media is full of interesting photos, her hobbies, passions, work, education, places she has travelled to, etc. I think this is perfectly acceptable and you should feel no worry.

I'm in the process of a divorce right now from this. I was with my ex for 7 years, and I knew she had some issues but it was always something that we could work through. She had severe daddy issues, and constantly craved his attention and approval. She was abused as a child by both of her parents, watched her dad beat her mom, watched constant fights and divorce, did excessive drugs, the whole bit.

Fast forward 7 years(to this past November) and buying a house together triggered her to the extreme. Complete light switch almost over night. One day I have amazing I love you texts and all I want to do is be with you, why aren't you giving me enough attention, etc. The next, lying and fucking around with another guy, but still going through with a mortgage together...

I met a new girl recently, and it really opened my eyes to how crazy my ex was and how much I was bending to keep her craziness at bay.

I've been debating recently whether to share an experience I had over the course of 18 years dating a woman with diagnosed narcissistic personality disorder. Not sure if it's something people would be interested in reading.

To put BPD in the same category as any other mental illness is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Best to say avoid all BPD women 100%, everytime, no matter what; see any other MH diagnosis as a huge red flag. Nothing wrong with a girl that has mild anxiety on occasion. Putting her in the same category as a BPD chick? Leads to a useless analysis.

THERE ARE WOMEN WITHOUT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES? Holy shitballs! Where?

How about just Do Not Marry. ?

If you are still hard headed about this issue...please feel free to dm me...and I will give you all the insight and hell you can possibly take. Just imagine what happens when a mentally ill woman is jealous of her daughter.

I see this coming up all the time. What what is your take on mean with BPD, bi-polar and so forth? It's nit like these men are non-existent. I, for one, am cyclothymic (milder form of bi-polar) and somewhere on the scale of BPD. Not enough for full BPD (CUT-25) but stil high on some data points

This statement is pretty blanket, and the specific mental disorders described are solely personality-based and in the cluster B category. Would you say a woman with depression and social anxiety who is trying to improve herself and her life is on the same level as a woman with BPD who is genuinely abusive? Also, have you considered that if someone's mood swings are genuinely that debilitating, she may have an undiagnosed condition or need pharmaceutical treatment and may not be a lost cause?

"In what ways do you think you need to grow, or change, as a person?"

Ask that, ASAP, to anyone you're considering hooking up with. If they appear bewildered, can't answer, or worse- get angry- you're talking to a poisonous bitch and should get out of there immediately.

(This is a narcissist test from YouTube that rings true to me)

(Another is, one time when you're ready, tell them "no" and "I'd really prefer not to" to some mundane request, like would you pick up some milk on the way over, or let's watch that movie tonight, can I borrow your car, or will you drive me to work tomorrow. If they flip out, instead of normal reaction of disappointment and confusion- get out immediately.)

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Can confirm.

The thing about crazy women is that they are easy to fall in love with. They are exciting, thrilling, emotional, hot and cold, brilliant, often artistic, deep, poetic creatures.

Which is why they will absolutely RUIN YOUR LIFE.

Take it from an older guy, if you absolutely must be in a long term relationship, a boring, stable woman is going to be your best bet. I know, it sucks, but trust me.

That brilliant, fucks like an animal artist with daddy issues?

Marry her, and one day you will wake up with all your shit gone, a false rape charge, or your left nut cut off.

And that is if you are lucky...

Just spent 2.5 years with a borderline personality disorder girl. Can confirm it will fucking destroy your soul if you let it.

At the end of the day I managed to get out and come out a stronger person, but borderlines can quickly do irreparable damage to an unsuspecting male, dont become their next victim.

Could not agree more. I dated a girl once with OCD. It is not your job to adapt and take care of her disorder. People get paid good money for that, and you'll only end up resentful and frankly unsuccessful anyway. Don't do it to yourself. You deserve a partner who doesn't have any major problems.

Also apply this advice to women with substance abuse issues (alcohol, illegal drugs, etc.) Stay away from those women. Nothing but pain there, and a hefty dose of AWALT.

This is The Red Pill. DO NOT MARRY.

I thought we established this years ago.

DO NOT subject yourself to the perils of marriage, there is NO BENEFIT for men. The only exception is if you really want to have kids and maintain a stable family, but even then consider if it's really worth it.

Somehow I've ended up with these ptsd girls who flip the fuck out and lock up and scream and rock back and forth like the world is ending for hours on end over the stupidest of nothings. Might be legit, might not, but either way the outcome is indestinguishable from extreeeemely juvenile manipulation.

I love so much that we have the full beta card. It's kind of an ego blow to be seen as a little clingy bitch, but at least it gets you out of situations you really don't want to be in.

Can relate. Spent almost 3 years with a chick that was swimming in Histrionic Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Disorder..... you see any messed up traits early on? RUN!

I just avoided one. First date went well but there were flags. She follows a religion that doesn't allow alcohol, but she popped a Xanax and had 10 drinks that night (I bought her ONE because she paid my cover).

Sent her home at 5 am after being up all night. She's texting 4 hours later, and then soon became upset I had not responded. Eventually she said "ok I can take a hint". I hadn't even woken up yet from the night before.

I decided to end it right there "I don't think I can give you the relationship you're looking for".

She replied, "whew I dodged a bullet"!

isnt this common sense? is there a one guy who hasnt heard "dont stick your dick in crazy" ?

this has to do more with have self control and dont be desperate

Don't kid yourselves. They ALL have mental health issues.

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Like saying "Do NOT Milk a cow with 4 teats."

Any brother who’s dealing with a BPD witch can PM me. Guys listen to the advice, don’t even talk to these creatures. They are fucking evil.

I don’t know if we should start diagnosing asshole women. Most people are neurotypical, and sociopaths such as myself have to deal with a lot of blame due to normal people being assholes.

Wait for a confirmed and documented diagnosis. I don’t want to turn this into lovefraud.com where we start diagnosing people left and right.

The problem is that all women have mental health "issues". Just because they don't have a clinical diagnosis doesn't mean they don't. At best, it is on a spectrum from quirks to massive pathologies. The second problem is that they are good at hiding their crazy she-hulk/werewolf side. Third is that some of the red flags are awesome such as the hot girl who falls for you quickly, gives you the most amazing second date sex ever, and then rocks your world on an ongoing basis. The natural tendency is not to check yourself and think that she is crazy.

Crazies are good in the sack though, but my past experiences with them have been mercifully short in terms of relationships. 3 months maximum before they freak out and break up with me.

Good posts always start with words like chucklefucks, nice post op

All women have issues. Just gotta know how to deal with it lol

Listen guys. I'm not saying to marry them, but you will never have better sex than with a bipolar woman.

The hard part about this so-called Exit Strategy, is that fake-it till ya make it, works both ways. Start acting like a pussy, and do it long enough, and you'll BE a pussy.

There are other strategies- including move away for 3-6 months, always have a video camera (second phone) on you, to roll tape if she messes with you, and just refusing to play ball (live your life, if she hurts you, karma could hurt her 10x harder)

Example: she trashes your car. You're careless and accidentally flood her apartment. She sets you up with fake rape charges. You reveal to the authorities, her surprising habit of narcotic trafficking. She kills your dog. You have a female gangbanger talk to her about street physics.

Never let a man or woman draw your blood without retaliation. Better to go to jail, than let someone punch you out, stab you, or hit you with a weapon (I've seen all three of these happen to male friends, by women). If you are attacked unjustly by lethal force (a knife, a car), always use whatever force is necessary to protect yourself. It is not unheard of, for a BPD harpy to attempt to kill her ex-boyfriend. Or worse- does Lorena Bobbit ring a bell?

At all times, be able to roll tape with one device, while calling the police with the other. It's best if she can't tell you are taping (hidden camera in a baseball hat). This is only legal in public, outdoors.

Spent 2 years with a girl with bulimia. Not fun.

Most stressful time in my life. Definitely not worth it

Can confirm just came from a 4 year relationship with a bipolar girl. Even though she had huge circles - meaning she was depressed when we met and became manic after almost four years - it still managed to bring my whole life down. Even though you think you may fix her, sometimes they don't even want to be fixed. I literally got told that she enjoys her mood swings, it's fucking weird and especially for rational people who date those girls it will text your insanity. At the brink of depression I found out the Red Pill and now I'm trying to educate myself as much as possible. For your own safety keep them at distance or in the worst case scenario keep them as plates , cause the sex is glorious. Be aware.

This includes hairstylists and accountants.

Good thread. Used it once. Works great but the girl might try to fuck one of your bros.

My mother has BPD and she's driven my Dad and I toward suicide for the past 20 years ceaselessly.

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I'm assuming this also means that women should not date or marry men with mental health issues?

I have a weird magnet for these type of women.

I've been accused of stuff I never did and would never do. I've woken up to shit being thrown all over the apartment; ON A ONE NIGHT STAND. I've been threatened with knifes, shoes and even at gun point. I had a dog stolen and my clothes cut into squares.

Any girl could be fully sane and cute one day, the next she is trying to burn your smartphone.

Heed the advice, run upon craziness, SHE WON'T BE OK EVER. Just go to the next.

There's a thousand different red flags and tells, but you can't truly pull your head out of the fog until you do this...

1. Sort out your own mental health issues. If you are well off or have resources available to you, see a well reviewed and credentialed psychiatrist and be honest as hell.
2. Once you are certain that you do not have any mental health issues, make sure you are not described in NMMNG. You needn't be codependent to be in trouble.
3. Have outcome independence and have had enough women in your life to understand them, both how they work and their phases and techniques.

With these three things you're basically poison for a woman with issues. You're not codependent so she can't use you for her desire to fix you up (and leave you when she finds a new project). In the same stroke, you're not desperate for female companionship and willing to let the trojan horse into your life.

Women with HBP, NPD, BPD etc (cluster-b) are looking for various forms of supply. Attention, adoration and abandonment respectively. They get these supplies by finding men who will worship them and be their puppets. They look for men who provide a high return.

Let's be real, these women still want to or need to have sex with their "victims." But what makes it ultimately work for them, on top of the SMV features, is that they can manipulate the men involved to get their supply.

Once their supply dies, the relationship dies.

So your actual protection against these women is to as Shari Schreiber says is to grow real "true self worth." Once you do this, you will repel these women because their gambit is based on said man's willingness or ability to leave. Not only that, you may out her leaving her without her supply. How would the HBD get the adoration of her orbiters if someone with a pair of balls and the ability to leave posted a video of her crying for almost no reason at all and screaming at your neighbors? She already knows that routine doesn't work on guys with their act together.

At that point, red flags become a sort of moot point since you're already up to your eyeballs in suitors and those red flags will work as quick filters.

And since you're a veteran here you won't be deciding you've "vetted her" and that she's the one now will you?

There are a number of guys in the BPD crew here that can help you, but if you don't have kids, the answer is to leave.

FYI I consider "gettinbetter" by Sheri Schreiber mandatory reading for guys here. This forum is a NPD hot bed of men dating BPD women.

It is my pet theory this is an in group forum for sociopaths systemizing interactions primarily disordered women, who are women who are the most receptive to being "plates." Given fearful-avoidant attachment mechanisms.

For any purple or blue pill readers, I was able to exclude this as a total explanation for the existence of the TRP model, but it is a sort of bias that explains the hyperbole though.

Either way, read up on this stuff. The chance you will be involved with a woman in the cluster-b if you're on this forum is very high. And these women do tremendous damage.

The previous hypothesis of why you should read up is below. I have more to add, but it's not really relevant and no time. All the good stuff is here.

Hypothosis

TRP is a forum with a significant number of NPD males, discussing female traits, using cluster-b hyperbole missing the larger debate, which is that relationships end when finite releases of serotonin by the female, in the male's company ends. This system, then recognizes the drivers of these chemicals, but fails to understand the significance of the end of these releases. And the purpose is to understand women (overtly, and self aware), but also to shield from narcissistic injury (covertly, without self awareness).

Neuro-normal men then fall victim to a separate delusion, one that NPD males call "female primary" narratives in terms of their behavior and the reason why their relationships ended.

Systemically, high level planning recognizes these things, and the system reinforces these roles institutionally. Socially, these roles are also subconsciously reinforced. Which is the explanation of why all relationships, at the end, become controlling. Because a woman at that point is out of control and the other men are waiting for their turn. By "controlling her" you are not accepting the rules of the game.

The power hierarchy (male disposability) is then

1) Institutions

2) Unconscious, covert, social influence (from subconscious level attractions and institutional role advertisements)

3) Social convention & social role models

4) Females

5) Males

Observations

Women who display strong red pill traits, are cluster B women. Women who show a tendency for these traits, are neuro healthy women. The description "of women" is inherently, I think hyperbolic, and use cluster-b types as their descriptors.

This forum then, would be a collection of a significant number of NPD males, organizing a system to avoid narcissistic injury.

The outward manifestations of this

• Focus on personal beauty (lift)
• Lack, or low empathy in discussions
• Personal achievement focus
• High involvement with disordered women (HCI's in divorce situations are disproportionate in this community)
• Descriptions of women are highly attuned to BPD, HPD types.
• PUA roots are highly geared towards LSE women.

In my experience, ALL chicks are crazy except those that are horribly boring. The trick is finding a chicks whose craziness is compatible with yours!

I fucked up at 24, got a bipolar bitch pregnant, and stupidly married her. 8 years of fucking hell ensued. Irrational fights, using sex as a weapon and tool of manipulation, violence on her part. Everything was my fault, I was cheating, wasting money, being abusive, lying, and horrible to live with... according to her. She was all that shit and more.

That cunt fucked up my life until I was 46. Try starting to put away for your future and get ahead in your late 40s after being held to less than $1000 a month because the rest it's going to a worthless crazy cunt.

Off you see the crazy, go full beta and beg for sex until she shows disgust towards you, then cut all contact, dropping her like a boss will only make her crazier and she'll destroy your life.

For the record it’s totally possible to date a girl with mental health issues. I’m living proof as long as I don’t misbehave. Other women have learned this as well. I just wanted to share my positive experience despite my weakness (5+ year redpill relationship)

The men that women like these are most dangerous to are Blue-Pillers wholly ignorant of the Red Pill. These guys will be your genuine nice guy, and constantly try to make a toxic relationship work thinking that it is the right thing to do. But when their actions are consistently countered with the actions of mentally ill women, they will start to question what is wrong with themselves instead of seeing the mentally ill women for what they are. If they had known the Redpill, they would have had the self-validation to move on from these girls and know that they themselves are perfectly fine.

So... don't date or marry women

Another important point to consider:

A woman with documented mental illness will be even further absolved of any responsibility for her actions and be coddled to the highest degree. This includes the police, courts, friends and family, and pretty much anyone when it comes to believing her fake rape stories, troubles making payments, getting a leg-up with jobs, etc etc.

If you still want the pussy:

Never tell her your real name or where you work.

Use snapchat only.

Only ever go to her place and never meet her friends.

You won't need an exit strategy with these safeguards. Any accusations or B.S. will go nowhere since she doesn't know any identifiable information about you.

Dated a BPD girl. Not even fucked her.

Found out she was fucking her boss all the time. Never talked to her again. One year later (ONE YEAR) she sue me for abuse. I have 4 lawsuits, four. I not even kissed her, just went for coffee dates with her. Crazy crazy woman. But she was so fine.

1. Crazy hot manic sex? Check.
2. Chance of dying? Check.

What's not to like? How do I screen out the normal girls and only get the crazy ones? Asking for a friend.

Current girl is a 22 y/o smoking hot bpd type II disorder imo, maybe hypomania? Probably other shit to, never been diagnosed but i'm a doc so i can tell lol.

She tests my frame like no other bitch, keeps me on my toes. the second i start to soften, i can see the change.

Some don't like it, I want it. I've been with way to many boring women, give me a women with daddy issues all day. Its only my turn anyways.

I'll go even further and say that you should not involve yourself with physically unhealthy women, either.

Sounds pretty cold-blooded, I know, but once you realize that you live in a world of abundance, why would you voluntarily put yourself in a situation with someone who is going to drag you down or hold you back with her fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, or weird allergies?

In all honesty, everyone can be described as having mental illnesses. You gotta realize it’s a spectrum. There’s no such thing as a unicorn. You just gotta go for chicks you can relatively trust not to stab you in the eyeball if you piss them off. You can find something wrong with anything bro. Be more positive. It’ll change your life.

No shit...but i guess it should be said because theres always those few that say "Had I known..."

What is life without mental health issues like?

I'd say keep an eye out for medication they're on. If you see Xanax or Valium or really anything in the same family she's not worth the effort. If after a dozen years of marriage she needs help then be there for her but never knowingly walk into this buzz saw. I've seen some garbage advice in here recently but this is dead on.

I remember being depressed last year, and blue pill wanted another half to complete me (lmfao?), my therapist suggested to find a girl who has PTSD like me and etc so we could work together on our issues lmao?

Society doesn't give a fuck about you, you pay your taxes and take the leftovers.

most girls with mental health issues are fucking dormant nuclear bombs.

Just got out of a 6 year relationship with a girl with bdp.

We had a semi open relationship and regularly had threesomes with other girls, so the sex life was great. But honestly looking at it now from a distance everything else in the relationship sucked. Recently ended due to her going off her meds and going batshit crazy "leaving me" this happened once before years ago. Told her if it happened again it'd be the last time.

This time I followed though. Within 3 days I was gone. Days later sure enough she wants to apologize.

Took a lot to kind of start my life over, but gotta say I should have done it sooner.

Thing is you get comfortable with stuff and the routine.

Honesty the biggest thing this has had me realize is how I've allowed myself to become.. Idk while not beta, for sure not alpha. I've let my fitness levels drop in the years, been far less in control of things I normally would have been.

I've never truly been a follower of the red pill, not a denier mind you. But never took some of the more key talking points to heart.

This sort of thing has me more focused on bettering myself. Hence this being my first ever post in this reddit despite browsing for years.

I've been in no less than two relationships with women who had nigh-extreme cases of NPD and bipolar, respectively. It's funny because after a while they both ended ending up landing "longer than usual term" relationships with dudes, who for lack of any better descriptors were these very naive, open-mouthed idiot types, where you could tell they were both thinking "how did I get so lucky landing such a HAWT SEXY DAME!!" Guys that the women could easily pull the runaround on for a long long time without the guy suspecting anything. Guys that will be utterly destroyed at best/turn raging psychotic at worst when they finally figure out how utterly played they've been. They're the dumbasses out there buying houses and cars for these women, as we speak.

It's always interesting to me how a huge percentage of NPD/BPD/bipolar chicks - even super hot ones - go this route in and around the time they turn 30 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

and if she has or ever has had an eating disorder, run, don't walk, run in the opposite direction

Being with a BPD girl brought me to the redpill so I am grateful on one hand. On the other hand she anchored some weird emotional states in me that'll take quite some time to dissolve completely.

OP is right. Don't date/marry/fuck a crazy person. Unless you are a sociopath or narcissist yourself, it will SEVERELY damage you. The damage can be undone, yes, but some stuff you'll probably never forget.

If you spot a crazy, do a 180 and run!