This is exactly the misdirection I said would occur because MRAs appropriated the term 'Red Pill' for their misguided documentary The Red Pill.

Not sorry AVfM you own this shit now. Cassie Jaye is laughing at your pathetic lives all the way to the bank now.

The interesting thing is that TRP membership will grow because of this.

a small % of people will read an article bashing us and come on over

"Wow- they are making some great points actually"

And will stay...

As OP said- we welcome the hit articles... Intelligent people see through them and our truth spreads.

The result is that she becomes a "damaged woman accustomed to a tier of man she can no longer attract". Or, as TRP bros will say, she becomes "post wall"

Jesus Christ, this woman didn't get anything.

Honestly I wonder what made her so attracted to coming here. She was here for a week on her own accord, obviously nobody invited her, and there's no requirement to stay.

When I'm repulsed from a place, I leave. She stayed for a week.

The narratives created by TRP, in my opinion, are myths to enable its users to justify face rejection, overcome a lack of self-confidence and are the result of a crippling discover inner power in a complex sexual marketplace.

The author almost understood TRP. Like so many here, they just a little bit of help in seeing it thru.

: shrug:

I expected this from vice. Heck, I expect it from most popcorn media.

To all the newcomers, try reading the sidebar. Form your own opinion. Try, this once, to divorce yourself from what you believe to what is objective in function.

See where you fall on that once you have both sides.

See quite a few of you, soon. You'll be back.

Thanks for the free publicity, VICE.

The narratives created by TRP, in my opinion, are myths to enable its users to justify rejection, overcome a lack of self-confidence and are the result of a crippling power complex. Before I delved into TRP, I thought that the harmful, hateful opinions held there were alarming but unthreatening, occurring in an online space so distanced from my own personal political anchor. But perhaps we shouldn't be so detached: if today's politics are evidence of anything, it's that those who feel ignored have finally managed to wield the most power.

Translations: "I came up with this narrative before I even visited the site. Everything must be related to politics; I cannot see people for what they are: people. These MRAs must be Trump supporters, and are therefore HATEFUL. Masculinity and physical violence are the same thing. I am SCARED of these people and you should be too! (no specific reason required). I do not know how to think logically. I'm so open minded, I sneezed and my brain fell out."

On a slightly offtopic note, I find the notion of people being here "because they're outcasts who always had trouble with women" to be laughable. Not that there's anything wrong with that -- are those who have trouble to just sit back and accept their lot, or are they to proactively tackle their issues? Idiotic. I've never had trouble with anything like that, but I usually lurk in this sub because not only are there always interesting posts here, but also because it's a really distinct perspective on masculinity that you won't really find elsewhere in the modern world. And I'm sure there's a ton of people like me on this sub, too. There is clearly something of value offered by this sub, else I wouldn't bother coming here, would I?

About that article: I'm gettin' real fucking sick of people trying to make it like this place or men's rights is full of conservatives. I'm as fucking left as they come and I would never vote for Trump in any universe. I'm all for equality but I draw the line at people trying to be more equal than others. Just because we call people out on their illogical bullshit doesn't make us alt-right or Trump supporters.

Red pill exists because no one knows the rules for the interaction of the sexes in our society anymore. We need some sets of guiding principals to make order out of the chaos. Progressives tore down 2,000 years of accumulated social norms and customs in less than a generation and replaced it with nothing.

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Link to another article in that archived article: "Why Australian Men's Rights Activists Had Their Bullshit Documentary Banned"

huh.. Biased "journalism" anyone?

Hey trp, one of you should pick up this author and fuck her brains out, then come back here and post a field report

That would be

Very funny

I come here for the real truths about society and dating, not the PC culture, sugar coated, feel good lies.

why did the authour politicise this place?

its neither left or right leaning. just a group of men using the information here as a toolbelt to improve their perceived shortcomings.

this is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj9dA6E3fJw that is alluded to in the article. the context of it has nothing to do with MRA vs Feminism. its a more elitest individual proclaiming their opponent is more elitest than they are, only to be proved wrong by their opponent.

the article really feels as though its grasping at straws to condemn this place. it pulls in random political snippets of information that has no relevance or links to this place, other than the false dichotomy that left is pro-women and the right is anti-women.

what's more is that the authour didn't even bother to read the sidebar. disingenuous beyond belief.

You spend a month on a subreddit and you can barely muster a few meager paragraphs? I can guarantee you that woman spent no more than 4 hours around here.

The whole article kinda reads like it's been patched up on a two hour notice.

Which one of you bastards been talking about fight club?

Jesus. What a read. Ugh. We're all alt-right now? Half TRP isn't even white. How did telling you to lift, dress well, and be successful and interesting if you want to attract the opposite sex make us Nazis. I hate Nazis and Trump.

> Men's Rights Activist Forum

> The Red Pill

lmfao

Edit: I answered my own question.

Here's the link to Men's Rights flair: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/search?sort=new&restrict_sr=on&q=flair%3AMen%27s%2BRights

I'm not a big red piller, I stop in here from time to time to read some things as I think you guys make a lot of good points.

But I just wanted to say all Vice and Viceland related things are typically bullshit. Usually highly sensationalized, low on facts, high on opinions, inaccurate bull shit. Some stuff they show is okay but after watching two seasons of their shit, it became obvious that much of it was scripted and written to fit a narrative.

They will twist what you say, portray you in a bad light to fit their liberal/sjw agenda, and you will not be shown favorably. You just gotta say "fuck it, who cares, it's all bullshit anyway."

The one shred of truth in an otherwise disingenuous article:

One of the incredible feats of TRP is how it's managed to pack
so much clout behind the ideas it purports.

Mensrights will never be a threat to the SJW agenda. Men who take responsibility and transform themselves with work are an existential threat.

It's not a hitpiece. It's not yellow journalism. This is giving the author too much credit.

Stuff like the Vice article are the inevitable consequence of internet media, which is driven by clicks and shares, e.g. by pandering to an audience segment — not telling people new information and viewpoints, but reinforcing what they ALREADy believe.

Here's what happens to produce articles like this:

Some bright, enterprising kid graduates with a liberal arts degree, a MacBook, a carefully cultivated sarcastic persona, and a boatload of debt.

They move to NYC or a major city, and—joy of joys!—land a job at a red-hot media property. Now, they can not only keep churning out sarcastic hot-takes and ironically uncapitalized tweets, they'll actually get PAID to do it — and develop a "following" along the way. Blue star on Twitter. Plus, dogs allowed in the office, wear jeans to work, and beer on Fridays. Life is good.

Until a few things happen.

First, they come face-to-face with the bitter truth that when the metric of success is clicks and shares, the content that wins is the most nakedly pandering content. Which means they aren't journalists, roving the world for interesting stories and producing a unique viewpoint on them. They're marketers. Their job is to churn out crap that gets clicks and shares. That's it.

In other words, their job is not to be objective; it's to bounce back their audience's viewpoints at them. Remember, VICE's audience are insecure millennial narcissists. They aren't interested in objectivity, and they certainly aren't interested in questioning the narrative in any way. That's not how the game is played.

So in a weird way, I actually respect writers like this. They've figured out a way to be successful, and they're doing it.

Of course, it's making them into repulsive human beings who are enslaved to pandering to an equally repulsive audience. Most of them struggle with some level of depression, substance abuse and anomie. Nothing is sacred; they don't exercise, they don't eat right, and they spend their waking hours hunched over a computer. This is pitiable. But it is what it is.

There have always been people like this. Now the internet gives them a voice. We can't do anything about it; we can just keep our focus on living healthy and productive lives that make the world better. Let them have their cynicism. It's all they actually have.

That was interesting to read. As a subscriber to this sub for at least 4 years, I found it mildly amusing that the author, who can't spell "peddle" correctly and thinks "falsities" is a word, is trying so hard to convince his readers to conflate this sub with the deeply unpopular and unstable Trump presidency and the alt-right in general. Sure, it may be true that a majority of the people here support the president and conservatism in general, but he obviously didn't pay attention to anything this sub actually provides.

Does anyone here actually hate women? No. There are more than a few losers new to TRP who are in the anger phase because they're finding out the Disney Life Experience shoved down their throats since age 5 is a lie, who are trying to improve themselves and their understanding of human nature and gender dynamics so that they can stop being losers. I include myself in that category. We're here to learn. Not to hate. There is a huge difference between being a misogynist and making yourself better so you can be happier in the future. If you truly hate women, you don't belong here. Maybe try MGTOW. If you support the orange crybaby snowflake in the White House, there's a RP politics sub for you where you can heap praises on him all you want; more power to you... Speaking your mind is not illegal yet.

I am here to improve the quality of my life. I'm sure many, if not most, of you, my fellow assholes, are here to do the same.

Rant over. Time for another set. Can someone spot me?

This is another part of what /u/redpillschool mentioned in his post from last week, "Censoring the Internet". The media found a scapegoat that nobody would defend (kkk, nazis) and used them to justify censorship of ideas (these ideas promote violence, therefore it is reasonable to curtail free speech).

Now as was mentioned in the comments under that post, that censorship can possibly be used to censor other discussions, like trp. It's not a stretch at all to imagine groups calling for a ban of our ideas, citing that trp ideas lead to violence against women. This vice article is trying to tie trp to the "alt-right" and white supremacist groups.

The problem with mentioning all this is that it sounds so conspiratorial, like there are players pulling strings in the background manipulating the direction of society and directing people like this vice writer to author hit pieces like this linking us to hate groups. It could be, but I think we are just seeing the zeitgeist of our times in action.

Hold fast and wait for the pendulum to swing back around.

The narratives created by TRP, in my opinion, are myths to enable its users to justify rejection, overcome a lack of self-confidence and are the result of a crippling power complex.

i went from being an early 30s loser who had 2 bluepill relationships horribly crash and burn. i only had sex with a few women in my life. TRP turned me into a guy who can pick up most women in a bar, and i crush it on bumble/tinder. i've had sex with more gorgeous women in my 30s than all the rest of my life combined, many times over.

when i found TRP, i was already ultra-confident, but i wanted more on techniques and understanding of why women do things, and actual data on dating strategies. as i read PUA and TRP techniques, i found PUA to be parlor trick type manipulation that often doesn't work. i found that TRP is a sexual strategy that revolves around (1) understanding how women truly think, and (2) improving yourself into a high value person based on how women truly think. some of the guys in TRP actually posted data, links to studies, etc.

i never see counters to TRP theory/truths... no one ever says "that's false, here's why." it's always SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME. that's not an argument. that's an admission of defeat. if a goofy ass motherfucker like me can become a bachelor playboy through TRP, any of you fuckers can do it too.

Well, that's what this author sees from her point of view. I can see some of it, disagree with most, and disregard the rest. Since reviving my journey of personal growth, of which TRP is a part, my life has less and less to do with being "mediated" by the media--less to do with consuming and more to do with creating.

I try not to drink the Kool-Aid here or in the MSM.

The author wanted to "understand the right" so they came to a forum on sexual strategy and self improvement? I'm not sure what that says about politics.

There are a ton of beta losers all over the political spectrum. Political leanings and the ability to get laid are completely separate attributes.

By the way - I'm about as Red Pill as it gets and I think Trump is an egomaniacal blowhard and Clinton was unelectable. So which part of 'The Right' am I on?

Really wish this author had an account so we could have some back and forth. What a clown.

That article is such trash lol. Of course a woman would gladly deny truths of the sexual marketplace. I used to be in denial of this sub-Reddit too when I was younger but the things talked about here and the sidebar material has rang true time and time again.

Any newcomers, I recommend you come here with an open mind and really try to understand the ideas that are written. Compare them to what you've witnessed in your life. There is a lot to be learned here even if it doesn't align perfectly with your beliefs.

This article couldn't even be further from the truth. I usually just lurk, but it's filled with so much bullshit that I had to comment.

Since I've found this sub my life has improved drastically for the better. I was doing ok before but I can hands down say that all aspects of my life: social, mental, emotional, financial etc. have improved just from stumbling upon this sub and applying some of what I have read in my life (I loved lifting/sports already but there's also some solid advice on that too).

I'm not going to say it's the perfect sub(what even is perfection?) but it is a place that you can get guidance and knowledge on important aspects of life that no one really talks about/teaches young men about these days.

The biggest message that any new person on this sub should take away is that of constant self improvement. What you choose to improve is personal but it isn't about just picking up girls, misogyny and being "alpha".

The "journalist" took one piece of what is sometimes posted and just ran with that angle to fit her narrative, shit's sad because I actually respected Vice's material. Why would you even come on TRP to "understand the right" more? Shit, somebody sign me up to be a journalist if I can just write bullshit, not even do the right research and still get paid.

"It's a home for the self-proclaimed 'beta-male' rejects."

It's more like a school for the"beta-male" rejects, and it works.

The only thing the red pill has really taught me about women is to pay attention not to what is requested, but what is EFFECTIVE.

And that's a good policy whether you're dealing with women, or other men, or your boss, or anyone else. Don't listen to what they say, listen to what they do.

Once I got that through my head, I was happier, and the women I encountered were happier, too.

Always a woman going after TRP with these articles. Hey she got pumped and dumped by a Red Pill Chad.

One of the incredible feats of TRP is how it's managed to pack so much clout behind the ideas it purports.

It is obvious that TRP is gaining traction and women are losing orbiters on a daily basis. They see the ever growing redpill/MGTOW/men's rights movements are a threat to the status quo. I expect major changes to the social structure in the coming decade, where more and more men are unplugging from the matrix.

As the author rightfully states:

it's that those who feel ignored have finally managed to wield the most power.

I myself managed to convince my brother to read into the red pill theory and he changed himself for the good. I also told a close friend about it and he is the process of changing too. If an average guy like me is able to convince two other men to stop being orbiters, think of the "damage" a whole sub could cause. It's no surprise that feminists are panicking about the growth of the red pill community.

Eventually, gone would be the days where women would enjoy the free luxuries thrown at them by beta orbiters. With an ever growing population of red pill aware men, women would have to start doing the dirty work themselves if they are to survive, just as we men have been doing since prehistory. After all they wanted gender equality and henceforth they should work just as hard as a man. But we all know that they want gender equality only when it suits them.

Also - if you are here from vice and are tired of constantly striking out with women and reading media that habitually attacks men and deifies women, you're in the right place.

 

False Flags and Fake News are everywhere these days.

And be aware...

 

• It's Only Getting Worse

 

Add in censorship (which is way up) and we are under a full scale attack by the Globalist Tyranny trying to prevent any awakening from happening.

 

• Truth is never Popular

 

If it's an important Truth then it exposes a crime.

Crimes are part of the control system.

Just like in the "Matrix" the control system sends "Agents" within the system to confuse and redirect (or destroy) those who are waking up.

 

• Cue fight scene of Neo versus the "Agents".

 

We are deeper into the Matrix movie now... way past first taking the Red Pill.

The system is releasing anti-bodies as "Agents".

 

Didn't read that article past the description of a "typical Reddit user." What a fantasy. Reddit is populated by millions of people. Check out any forum's post requesting commenter selfies and you will see how many redditors look completely normal. The site skews male and white, but that's it. It's pretty mainstream.

Vice is like the younger brother who finds out about the cool band 3 years too late, completely misunderstands it, and then pretends to be an expert. It's like they're fueled by insecurity and laziness.

been reading articles and discussions on TRP for years. A great source for self improvement with a dosage of true reality, the brutal truth is rare in most journalism, but it is absolutely necessary to understand how to turn the world into an enjoyable, and fruitful place for an individual. In face to face discussions, people don't often have as open conversations as they do here, regarding the important and necessary steps a successful male must observe and navigate through the modern world.

I personally went through some unnecessarily difficult times with the women I chose to date and chase before I found TRP, after some introspection and concepts better understood here I managed to establish a continuing and very enjoyable LTR.

The unfortunate truth is that to those still plugged in we look like some of the most vile and manipulative individuals on the face of the planet. I mean think of it in their terms: instead of letting "the magic of love" and being yourself dictate intergender dynamics we are in an almost psychopathic manner conning women through pick up artistry and inflated egos. Of course while not true What they will never get is that some of us are here due to the tremendous betrayal we felt when we found out that this concept was a lie. They will also never view TRP as I and others do: as a theoretical science. Thus, as we cannot prevent these instances we should use them to our advantage as for as long as this sub and corresponding communities gets the hate it receives the great majority will ignore the wealth of knowledge and expertise we present.

It doesn't surprise me one bit that this is the product of vice news. Not one bit.