Gentlemen, please analyze the following gif: https://gfycat.com/HopefulWetAlaskanhusky
In this gif we see a woman, who is attending a Bernie Sanders rally, faint and fall down. Do you notice something about the nearby response from people?
Not a single woman exhibits an instinctual reaction to help. It's as if they get caught in a deer-stuck-in-headlights trance, watching helplessly as others jump to action.
The men, on the other hand, react immediately. And even when a few guys are already on top of it, you still see more men continue to approach to help. They do no concede their opportunity to help.
Men are adventurers, capitalists, risk-takers and entrepreneurs. Women are passive, socialists, insecure and concerned with safety.
We are not necessarily better, for lack of a better word, but we are different. VERY different. And this has very serious implications when it comes to dynamics involved with leadership (see: business, family, military, etc.). Edit: we are most definitely better leaders.
Equality is a falsehood. The differences between the sexes need to be recognized and embraced. You do not get a day off as a man.
Icohunter 7y ago
This is exactly right, there's a reason men evolved to be larger and stronger. We are supposed to be the pack leaders and be a step above women, its not sexism just the natural order!
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no_face 7y ago
Equality in terms of political terminology means that everyone has the same rights and responsibilities.
Modern feminism has conflated equality with uniformity.
Hence the movement went from "we have the right to vote" to "we can do anything men can".
The truth is that no two individuals are uniform. No two sportsmen from different sports are uniform in their skills at any sport. No two people have a uniform tolerance to UV rays or spicy food.
We are non-uniform in ability but we are equal in rights
Demonspawn 7y ago
And that is a falsehood.
Society will never hold women as individually disposable as it holds men. Due to that, society will refuse to hold women to the same level of responsibility, and therefore there is no case for equal rights.
We are not equal in rights. Men are second class citizens due to the lie of politically equality being possible.
TheeRyanGrey 7y ago
Equality is cruelty. Equality is why socialism and communism never work(amongst other reasons)
If I work harder and better than you I deserve more stuff. I'm better than you. Sure we're not allowed to say it but we're not allowed to pretend it doesn't exist.
people like me because i'm better than you. women fuck me because i'm better than you. I get better jobs and better chances because I'm better than you. I get respect because I'm better than you.
Forcing me into equality forces me to stoop down to the lowest persons level because no one is going to work harder for less stuff.
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TheeRyanGrey 7y ago
and that's the point: the past 2-3 generations, 45 years worth, have been inundated and brainwashed with theis type of thinking.
It's a Brave New World
hunkerd0wn 7y ago
Thank you. This is exactly how I feel.
LiveFreeorDieMAGA 7y ago
The biggest problem they don't understand is that somehow their life choices which result in lower pay in their profession, is some how discrimination, when in fact it's simply because of lost opportunity for experience. You can see this when Nigel Farage debates a feminist for a good example.
malignantbacon 7y ago
You're over-complicating it. The classically liberal ideal of equality refers to equality of opportunity. Nuance is lost when people don't think about their principles and this allows people to start referring to equality of outcome, which is where the authoritarian left starts to dig in its claws.
RubikTetris 7y ago
Lol youre the one overcomplicating things
Hoodwink 7y ago
You're saying the same thing as he did, but you're using some recent buzzwords.
I like his version better because it is universal and draws upon some classic utopian/dystopian stories. It is easily digestible and gets the same exact point across.
Entropy-7 7y ago
The complicated things further by introducing formal equality and substantive equality. The latter basically means giving everyone opportunities that lead to equal outcomes.
Captain-hatefact 7y ago
Incorrect. The liberal ideal is equality of OUTCOMES. The rational right ideal is equality of OPPORTUNITY.
Corndog_Enthusiast 7y ago
Why not just start off with that then? What you wrote above is half rhetoric.
malignantbacon 7y ago
You either didn't read or didn't understand my comment. "CLASSICAL" is the operative word. There are more types of liberal than the simplified left/right axis most people consider, way back in the times of the Greeks and the Romans "liberal" did not mean the same thing it's used for now.
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choomguy 7y ago
I think liberals believe in equality of both opportunity and outcome. And I'm pretty sure that's how they define "fair". Which unfortunately is all very flawed. So for example they think everyone should have the opportunity to be in a combat role, they lower the standards for some, then when they get killed disproportionately, something is wrong so it needs to be made fair.
nooooou 7y ago
no, you can't have both equality of opportunity and outcome unless you're dealing with identical actors. If all actors are identical then equal opportunity will give you equal outcome over the long haul.
A typical example would be women comprising 10% of STEM fields. So, you first determine this to be arbitrarily "bad" and then you decide to put in encouragements by giving scholarships based on gender with a floor of 50% women. On day one this means that a woman has 10 times the opportunity of a man in terms of this type of scholarship at the bottom line. The goal being to even the outcomes.
Except that it doesn't do anything because women are not failing to enter STEM because of lack of financing. If money was what they were thinking about then they would be entering. It's not fulfilling to most of them so they don't go in. No amount of throwing money at them will make them change what they think is a fulfilling career.
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ramaga 7y ago
I hope that young lady is okay. I really do. But, let me address the elephant in the room. (Hint: I just did.)
CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 7y ago
I would address the elephant in the room, but she covers about 6 postcodes
Hughtub 7y ago
Umm, it's the current year. Obesity is now healthy or some bullshit.
Dopebear 7y ago
Excuse at every fact? Oh oops, health at every size.
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hhamama66 7y ago
"STOP OPPRESSING ME!!!"
proceeds to eat an entire family sized bag of potato chips
aDrunkenWhaler 7y ago
Burst out in laughter over this. Good one, sir.
flyercomet 7y ago
To me that looked like fainting from hypoglycemia. She may be diabetic.
showhadoing 7y ago
Probably not. She'd likely be displaying other symptoms before actually passing out. I was thinking dehydration, they're at a rally probably with limited access to water, she's been standing there for an hour or two and maybe it's hot and she's fat so she sweats a lot. And I can infer from her weight she probably "hydrates" with sugar water, like coke and gatoraid, and I bet she's usually fairly dehydrated.
CheesyWeiner 7y ago
More likely vasovagal syncope
They had to be standing there for a long time. Hypoglycemia would hit you in other ways first. She would become weak, exhausted, and confused that she would have needed to sit down long before fainting.
Vasovagal syncope will hit you all of a sudden.
upupvote2 7y ago
From memory this why they suggest standing with slight bent knees. Something about blood flow being blocked when you're standing straight up and you're knees are in a locked position.
speed3_freak 7y ago
Yep. Grandpa said people used to do that to get out of PT on really hot days when he was in Korea.
nooooou 7y ago
yes it's true that standing upright and not moving a long time can cause this. Doesn't help that she's fat as fuck because it requires a lot higher blood pressure to pump through all that meat.
Lyradex 7y ago
I always liked this clip of the dolphins beaching themselves and all the people watching immediately helping.
Wait, I meant, all the men help. The women just stand there and watch. https://youtu.be/ekmMD8oYtJ0
As with life, men do, women don't.
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
Actually we are better by any conceivable metric that you care to name.
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FinallyRed 7y ago
Women are better at Machiavellianism and navigating social landscapes, at least insinctually. If you've got that going for you why would you need to be good at anything else? It's practically essential being the weaker and more vulnerable sex to be able to leverage the skills and labor of others.
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Elliot_Loudermilk 7y ago
Would you like your wife to be as courageous as you? If your wife and your child are in danger without you, would you rather that she run and escape or confront and fight?
The point is to say that often times the good qualities in women are bad qualities in men, and vice versa.
Swanksterino 7y ago
I would expect her to eat the baby and keel over.
Edit: Da fuq you idiots downvoting?
WeHaveIgnition 7y ago
I am going to try to think of something. Hang on I'm going to google a bunch of shit.
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[deleted] 7y ago
I hate when dudes on trp try that "they're not inferior, just different. Don't hold them to mans standards" BS.
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
It's purple pill weakness.
I believe in equality of opportunity and equality of rights. But equality of skill/quality/ability/value... "same but different" requires a lot of hamstering and is provably untrue.
Different can never be equal in the sense it is meant. Just can't be done. Some traits are just more important than others.
NotUpToAnythingGood 7y ago
I'm all for equal under the law, equal in standing (as a person) in society. Those are basic civil liberties and such there.
Equal in capability? Capacity? Merit? Outcome? Pay?
It's impossible to equalize those as they are individual traits governed by education, skills, interests, aptitudes, and choices. You cannot equalize them.
There's a story from a long time ago I read that talked to everyone being equal. It was written by Kurt Vonnegut. The story title is Harrison Bergeron. I suggest people read it to see what an 'equal society' could look like.
I would much prefer an egalitarian society driven by merit; a society where differences are celebrated for the uniqueness they bring. We should enjoy the colors of the rainbow instead of mixing them all together into a drab grey.
Yes, I know I mixed colors for lights and paints. Deal with it.
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And yet every time I say shit like that, I'm called an angerphaser. Makes no sense when I'm down voted for saying the same shit ECs agree with. Must be the EC tag.
I agree. Everyone has the same opportunity. I don't believe women should have the same rights as men. In my opinion, if women aren't completely subject to male authority and superiority at all times (e.g. Islam), a culture will break down. The civilization cannot thrive. Male Superiority-Centric patriarchy is the best bet for any civilization. I believe women's ambition should be ignored, and they need to be raised as housekeepers/reproducers. Bout it. And totally. Nobody on this earth is equal, and women will never be equal to men. They're the inferior gender for a reason.
MakeEmSayAyy 7y ago
And Europe is proving you right every day. They let their women run amok and have committed cultural sepuku.
G4RRETT 7y ago
Comments like this, especially from a "TRP endorsed" user, are the reason everyone thinks this sub is misogynistic. Just think about it before getting all defensive please.
edit: changed chauvinistic to misogynistic
DaphneDK 7y ago
What does it matter what everyone thinks? Let them think its misogynistic. So what? Fuck them.
G4RRETT 7y ago
Idk, I want more people to understand this sub and not think it's just a bunch of misogynists.
Sawagurumi 7y ago
Chauvinism: 1) exaggerated or aggressive patriotism, 2) excessive or prejudiced support for one's own cause, group, or sex.
If in fact we can point to many (as in the majority) of traits where men are objectively better, is it still 'excessive or prejudiced' or simply stating a fact?
Feminists are, and always have been, chauvinists by this definition, with little to no justification, yet they call us (and in fact all men) chauvinists. Pot, meet kettle. Personally, I don't care if they call me a chauvinist, or sexist, or misogynist. None of these petty insults holds any sting.
G4RRETT 7y ago
The point is we, as a subreddit and group, should be discussing issues men face and strategies to help us, not spouting out how men are so much better than women. I mean come on.
Sawagurumi 7y ago
we are not that far apart, in that there are some stupid things said recently which conform neither to reality nor red pill theory generally, and it helps nobody. However, taking the red pill is about facing reality, whether it is popular, approved by women, liked by us, whatever. Because to be effective in a situation it helps to have a clear and accurate understanding.
If we say that men and women are 'equal', not just in a political or legal sense, but in all senses, this is just delusional. Two different things cannot be 'equal'. How does it make sense to do some sort of calculus of things men are better at, things that women are better at, things where there is no sex difference, and somehow come to the conclusion that it all exactly balances out? This isn't putting women on a pedastal (above us), but it is seeing them as better than they are.
So, I see that men are, on average, better at physical things requiring strength or speed (but somewhat worse at those requiring fine motor control/small fingers), have more high-end intelligence people (but the average is only a couple of points better), better able to control our emotions, more loyal to our friends and partners, better at creating business in the small scale, and civilizations at the large scale, have a better developed sense of justice, and I can go on.
Perhaps you can come up with a balancing range of thing that women are better at, because I really struggle to find it.
So the point is, saying men are 'better' than women on the whole seems to be to be acknowledging objective reality, and not excessive. Given that this is the reality, it effects our strategies, eg in having no qualms about saying that men should lead in a relationship.
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TRP IS CHAUVINISTIC. Fuck what people think. Chauvinism is just seeing women how they are. Men > Women.
G4RRETT 7y ago
women are far better at manipulation, and that counts for a hell of a lot.
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+1 true that. What else?
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
You are fast to criticise me, but slow to think of counter-examples to my point.
G4RRETT 7y ago
can't believe I even have to make this argument, but on an individual level, there are plenty of women who are better than men at particular things. Example: Ronda Rousey can totally kick my ass. She's a superior fighter to most men on earth. Serena Williams is a better tennis player than most men on earth. Stop generalizing entire groups, look at the individual.
And to respond with something that women as a group are better at than men: Manipulation. And that counts for A LOT.
As a subreddit we should be discussing men's issues and strategies to help, not just spouting off about how much better men are than women. Come on.
cashmoney_x 7y ago
Well, I can't believe I have to make this argument: Individual exceptions do not speak to the larger rule.
You just clucked like a hen but said nothing.
G4RRETT 7y ago
how about the part of my argument where I mention something that most women are better at? You stupid or something? Stop hamstering your way around what I wrote.
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RedMoonAscendant 7y ago
You actually came close. You should have stuck to the "manipulation" angle. Or, just pick any number of things that are proven:
Admittedly, MattyAnon is implying "any metric I would want someone to be better at," but you could pretend not to notice that and still do okay.
Spidertech500 7y ago
The only time Bernie Sanders will ever appear on this subreddit
RedSugarPill 7y ago
Unless he gets elected. Then there will be a flood of blue-pill examples right up to the supreme court.
showhadoing 7y ago
EMT and long-time lurker here.
EMS and to a point medicine in general (there are many nurses, mostly female, who freak out when shit hits the fan and become useless but that's more or less few and far between) attracts a variety of female that is very hands-on, and can take the lead and have a steady hand. Not ALL women have the dear-in-headlights reaction these females demonstrated.
I'd also point out that the female who fainted appears morbidly obese and probably has a myriad of health issues associated with that, especially considering she's no spring chicken. Passing out like that certainly should be checked up on, but rarely constitutes an emergency, unless she hit her head or otherwise hurt herself falling, or if she doesn't regain consciousness in the next minute or so. I bet standing for an hour or two watching that speech is more exercise than she's had in months, and her body couldn't handle it. She could also be dehydrated, seeing as she's at a rally where she has less access to water, and she's overweight so she probably mostly drinks sugar water aka coke.
What's really interesting to me is most the Bernie supporters I meet are very beta, usually college kids, feminist white-knight types. It was surprising to see a few of them jump in and take the lead like that.
Splyced 7y ago
All the women were like "aww hell no I can't pick that chick up!"
jamesbond0512 7y ago
Well then we have that one on a million woman that reacts and the other women want to take pride in her.
nzgs 7y ago
I agree with your point but I would hardly describe the "men" at a Sanders rally of being adventurous capitalists. More often than not they are highly estrogenic, effeminate, sensitive, cowardly, and stuck in academia or government jobs.
MakeEmSayAyy 7y ago
and even these numales did something while the women didnt
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the_trp_dude 7y ago
I've been thinking about this since that video of the olympic lifter made the rounds: https://www.instagram.com/p/BDg28psw1E8/
Better angle: https://www.instagram.com/p/BDhFkO2Q1Os/
Also, DadReflexes in particular this: https://i.imgur.com/8RQtRcc.gifv
Invalidity 7y ago
To be fair, I would prefer women to stay out of matters where they may potentially compromise the situation more than it already has been.
And besides, I would prefer women to be passive, rather than actively trying to meddle in every single affair. Aggressiveness in women is the reason that we have the plague that is known as feminism.
colucci 7y ago
Why do we evacuate women and children first?
So men can think of a solution in peace.
Haha I'll be here all night folks!
fokum8 7y ago
That's one of the best jokes I've heard
colucci 7y ago
It's a shit stirring joke. Use it sparingly.
lurkingtacopiller 7y ago
Yeah, definitely can't use that anywhere I frequent (university, kill me).
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thrway1312 7y ago
If you're in STEM there are some areas where women virtually never appear; in my experience the electronics lab and machine shop are a non-mandated albeit virtually women-free zone. Coincidentally they are the only areas on campus in which I can make crude jokes (such as /u/colucci's) with virtually no repercussions.
colucci 7y ago
One of my best friends grew up to be a fiery SJW. We radically disagree with eachother on pretty much every political issue, but we grew up together so we respect eachother. Anyway, it happened that I went out quite a bit with her and her little gang of feminists.
Frankly, if you make it obvious that it's a joke and you flaunt your anti-SJW reputation in a playful manner, you can say very dire shit around feminists.
YMMV though. Some of them were great despite their weird views and I still hang with them. Others were ultra feminist and ended up hating my guts. But who cares, fuck em.
lurkingtacopiller 7y ago
Even then, the number of white knights and feminist assholes that exist still scare the shit out of me. I feel like I'm one hilarious joke away from being reported to the campus authorities for insensitivity or some bullshit (I wish I was exaggerating).
thrway1312 7y ago
I feel you. I'm sure there's a few betas in there that would jump at the opportunity to drag me down but that's why you have to test the waters over time and as soon as a new face is present, drop it back down.
As my dad taught me from his corporateland experience: let others demonstrate their shit talking first, then you both know you're on the same level.
eccentricrealist 7y ago
Man, I'm glad that shit doesn't go down as much in Mexico. I'm the generation's cynic, and it's awesome.
Goomich 7y ago
Because words are scary http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433091/stem-fields-women-courses-competition
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hhamama66 7y ago
My English professor can't seem to go a day without subtly mentioning the patriarchy or the oppression of women. She constantly exaggerates stories of her childhood and how her mother was abusive, and her dad was a dick, and her sister is an oppressive conservative Christian.
Redasshole 7y ago
Nowadays, teachers tell girls to suck dicks and to piss on the word "virtue".
God, what have the world become?
hhamama66 7y ago
This is what happens when kids listen to liberal adults make fun of conservatives as if they're somehow a bunch of deranged children. Women are more depressed than ever, and men are checking out of society more often, so maybe just maybe, free sex and teaching guys to be more feminine while at the same time teaching women to be more masculi-excuse me, I meant empowering didn't turn out to be so good at all. Maybe, the "strong independent mothers who don't need a man" feminists have been shoving down our throats aren't capable of creating functional members of society. So maybe, it's time to go back to conservative ways of thinking and start thinking about the family rather than our selfish short term desires.
EarthExile 7y ago
I second this. I work in a catering kitchen and there's nothing worse than when the flock decides they need to have input on something or god forbid, "help" me with my work.
MakeEmSayAyy 7y ago
first 15 minutes spent deciding how to decide who gets to talk first
Marsupian 7y ago
We are different in a good, complementary way. Its disgusting how regressives want to erase this beautiful duality.
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We are better too though. Yeah, yin yang complementarianism masculine/feminine dymanic blah blah. Men > Women in pretty much everything.
hhamama66 7y ago
Look, I know you might have been recently burned by a female family member or a girlfriend, but for the love of everything that's important in this world, take it easy and learn how to get over that bad taste in your mouth. Not all women are evil despite a lot of the bad ones being beyond redemption. Good luck on your path to maturity
[deleted] 7y ago
Never been burned by a female. Never cared about or trusted one enough to ggive em that power over me. I just hate women. Always have, always will.
hhamama66 7y ago
Just take it easy a little
DeputyDelicious 7y ago
Look I'm glad you found this place early in life. It'll help you out tremendously, but for the love of god man. Just trust me when I say lurk more. You're still a teenager. You haven't thought through everything very deeply yet. Just lurk more and learn quietly and you'll be a better man for it.
Also take a break from the sub from time to time if you must. Believe it or not not all women are just absurdly evil inferior creatures. It's just that most people here are here because they ran into one of the evil ones. Just take a chill pill for a while. Good luck out there
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And I disagree. I believe even in the sweetest women, there is an undercurrent of irrational immoral/amoral sociopathic self interest. That is just simply female nature, andhhow women prioritize themselves to keep themselves alive and perpetuate the race further.
joh2141 7y ago
Somethin you wrote a lot of men here forget. All flaws we view women in red pill are basically products of hormones. In the same way we can't help ogle at that hot chick when your girl and kid is next to you, women can't help how their emotions take charge of their logic. Even the most red pill force fed woman is still a woman at the end of the day and her body rushes estrogen throughout her body. Understanding the duality beauty or whatever poetic words you use is important. It keeps humanity going. If you believe women are inferior because she is the victim of her own body chemistry then what are we men when we also fall victim to our own body chemistry and decide with our dicks.
There is no gender equality but there is no true inferior gender either. Men can't make offspring without the women. Afaik that ability in itself started wars and genocides and massacres.
maldittoduende 7y ago
This is what I don't understand about this community. We congregate here to talk about how women are, by the literal definition of the word, inferior.
Inferior at showing empathy. Inferior at loving their partner. Inferior at negotiating salaries. Inferior at showing initiative. Inferior at pretty much everything physical. Inferior at getting out of their minds and seeing the bigger picture. Inferior at accepting responsibility. Inferior at finances. Inferior at maintaining healthy relationships with the same sex. Inferior at running a business. Inferior at leading...
We congregate here to talk about how society as we know it is the product of thousands of years patriarchy, in the best sense of that word. We point out if women have equal rights it is because us, men, let it be so.
I could give you, off the top of my head, a list of things men are better at than women:
Man I could go on and on. I am sure most guys here agree with me on everything I wrote above and have some things to add to that list.However, it is the word inferior that seems to, ironically, trigger them
Things women are better than men at? I can only think of nurturing. I don't buy the whole "women give life" narrative. Life begins in the testicles.
Why is the word inferior triggering to redpillers?
If you're thinking of downvoting this comment, I ask you to please explain your position; for educational purposes. I promise I'll read your explanations of my bigotry with an open mind :)
I am genuinely curious as to what goes in the mind of someone who can identify so many flaws in the opposite sex and still be, dare I say, offended at the word INFERIOR.
[deleted] 7y ago
I don't understand it either. Men> Women. That simple.
DeputyDelicious 7y ago
He's a teenager. If you think he doesn't talk like this in public then you don't understand teenagers. They can't help but speak their minds. He'll get murdered or shunned by his friends and family for talking like this around them. He's literally not at a level of maturity where it is easy to just listen to people and not argue with them if you disagree. He probably spends the majority of his internet time on here. That in itself is unhealthy because it will warp his idea of women too much.
This word inferior that you think triggers me is hilarious. By it's very definition it is relative. Women are typically shorter than men. Does that make them inferior? In some situations yes, but in other situations no. Asians are fucking midgets compared to black people. Does that make them inferior? In basketball? Sure. In computers? It is irrelevant.
And that is the fucking point. These things that you use to dehumanize the opposite sex are irrelevant in certain situations and mean....nothing.
If women were completely inferior to men then no matter what they wouldn't be graduating with more degrees than men. If women were completely inferior to men then they would never do better in school no matter what. Even if the grades became based on the ability to conjure up bullshit in reports and sit for hours on end listening to nothing. Even if you drugged the boys into a sedated stasis.
Look I don't really give a shit about whatever point you're trying to make. I'm just trying to teach the kid that you don't have to comment on every fucking thing in the sub. Which he can't help but do because he hasn't recognized his teenage narcissism. I'm a man helping another man recognize his flaws nothing and try to improve on them. If you want to think of women as subhuman because they are inferior in the things you put the most priority on as meaningful; by all means do, but it'll get you nowhere in the grand scheme of the redpill.
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I don't talk like this in public lmao. I'm not an idiot. And my mother knows I hate women in general. Doesn't really mind as long as I'm nice to her and treat her well, partly because she doesn't particularly care for men either. Not Noe, she's too old fat and hit the wall too hard.. She knows my redpill views. She doesn't agree, but she knows. Loves me regardless. I don't discuss this type of shit with anybody, except for my best friend and that's because he's rp aware too. My idea of women has been "warped" since my memory starts. I've always hated women, since I was a little boy. Long before redpill awareness. I was always redpill aware to a degree, I knew women were fucked in the head and loved alphas. I know how to listen and not argue, even though I'm arguing with this. I enjoy the discussion though. I spend the majority of my internet time on here, learning algebra so i can catch up in school, and just reading random shit I find interesting. I read about a lot of music artists since I love music. I honestly don't see what's wrong with dehumanizing women though. They love it. Granted, I'm also biased since I hate them.
You're right I don't need to comment on everything, but when I'm stuck in the house and don't have shit to do, kinda solves the boredom.
Do you mean my own narcississm + I'm a teenager? Or do you mean the narcissism kids get at the teenage age?
maldittoduende 7y ago
Who said subhuman? I find it funny you think I'm hilarious given I am quite certain I just triggered you. Look at all the cursing and general tone of your response. I'm not so sure you're a grown up either. Have a good day.
thrway1312 7y ago
Nah, we congregate here to talk about sexual strategy. Sometimes that involves pointing out the flawed nature of women (and beta males, too) but that's not the primary objective.
Don't get me wrong, there's tons of areas where women fall short but there's careers where women dominate because they're better adapted for those positions: caretaking, hospitality, etc.
When's the last time you met a male nanny? I can't say I ever have, yet there's 5 girls I know off the top of my head that make good money doing it.
maldittoduende 7y ago
I am not denying the female quality of nurturing. But as you see, thats the only thing that comes to mind when we think of areas were women are superior. Is it not?
pseudousernym 7y ago
Just wondering how many men you fucked before cumming to the conclusion (yes, I did just do that) that men fuck better than women?
maldittoduende 7y ago
I don't keep count. Somewhere in the 20s is my best guess.
Do you agree with me and are genuinely curious about my sex life? Or was that at attempt at putting me down?
Yes. I'm bisexual.
pseudousernym 7y ago
No don't agree, and not curious either. Just playfully questioning your post.
maldittoduende 7y ago
Glad to know I've provided entertainment for my fellow superior man :)
Invalidity 7y ago
It wouldn't be wrong to consider women inferior when comparing men and women side-by-side. But the reality of things is, we cannot compare men to women even though we are all a subset of the group humans. Instead, we must judge both genders to their respective standards.
There are some qualities that are more pertinent in women than men, and likewise some more pertinent in men than women. Hence, men and women need to be judged to two entirely different standards.
kellykebab 7y ago
Because women do not meet men's standards. Your total relativism on this issue is honestly less in line with Red Pill's general philosophy than /u/deleted screed.
I can understand encouraging a younger member to move past the anger phase, but you are condescending to the point of distorting TRP's hard-nosed realism. Women mostly contribute a vagina and womb to society. In general, these are their best assets.
In countless other measurable skills and attributes men tend to dominate. Believing in some kind of magical "balance" is essentially religion. Healthy relationships between men and women will involve a strong, clear-headed man leading and a kind, generally selfless woman providing support. It's pretty obvious this is not the rule, though.
I cannot think of any objective criteria where men and women are "equal" unless you define the term so loosely that it simply means adult humans.
This doesn't mean women are evil or worthless. They provide a terrific survival benefit to the species, and in many cases are charming, fun, intelligent individuals. But this idea that men and women actually embody polar forces in harmony or something just isn't based in reality.
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We don't. They use the yinyang dynamic to help new rpers learn. Are women happiest being feminine and submitting to dominant alpha masculine men? Yes. That's not the whole story though. No matter how redpilled any man is, no man will ever truly understand the chaotic irrational emotional void that is primal female natre. As much as i respect the man, I doubt even Rollo truly does. As logical beings because of our gender, we can't understand it. Maybe call it a form of male solipsism if you want.
I constantly say the majority of women are good for sex and kids only. And I'm down voted, I assume because of the misogyny in my comments. Yes, I fucking despise women. Doesn't change the validity of my words tho. Women exist for reproduction. That is about it, truly. And I honestly don't think true selfless women exist. Maybe a woman less selfish than others, but selfishness is inherent in female nature. Its how they protect themselves and keep the species going, they let others die for them.
No matter the masculine feminine balance you have, the relationship will end, she will move on or cheat, and that's just life. Even if you are the perfect man. Women will never be satisfied. No matter how alpha and redpill you are, there is no fixing women. You simply choose to play or not to play.
Invalidity 7y ago
Nowhere did I say that men and women are equal, nor did I say that both genders embody opposite but unifying traits. You're mistaking my intent in that you believe that I am stating the opposite of inferiority.
I don't care that women are evil or not, or worthless or not. Whether or not they are inferior has no bearing on what we as men do with our own livelihoods.
The bottomline is that they can't be compared to us for all intents and purposes. They are a completely different set and they must be held to their own standard. The problem is that feminists want everyone to be judged to the same standard, which is inherently impossible. Women are intended for one purpose and men for a completely different purpose.
kellykebab 7y ago
I totally disagree. Feminists want all women to be judged by the standards of the most elite men (i.e. successful, attractive playboys that people tend to defer to out of meekness, respect, or appreciation), regardless of their character or achievements.
They do not seem to want other groups, namely non-dominant men (probably 85%+ of the male population) to be judged by these same loose standards, however, because that would be a nightmare for both the economy and female dating options.
I assume you don't mean this exactly, but I soundly disagree that men and women were intended for anything. Biologically, men and women evolved to be better suited, in general, for different social roles. Based on the fact that men have shrunk in size in comparison to women over the last several thousand years (not sure on the specific numbers), as well as other factors, I suspect that evolution is not pushing women and men apart in terms of fitness and ability, but actually may be doing the opposite.
However, I think that men in general are far more skilled than women. I'm confused why you think we can't compare the two when there is so clearly a mixing of roles and occupations in the current market. Women have and increasingly are taking over male occupations and male activities. If we are to maintain any kind of fairness in modern life, we have to start judging women by male standards. If we're going to let women into combat roles of the military, they should pass male standards of fitness, plain and simple. Forcing groups of men under extreme duress to carve out pampered roles for women to occupy during periods of great need is going to seriously tax military morale. That's just one example. The sad thing is, it's far easier to quantify quotas than it is psychological strain and resentment on the battlefield. Or the workplace. Or at the gym.* Et cetera.
The whole idea of women being a completely different set, whatever that means, is fine when society is already based upon a strict division of roles by gender. In a fluid society, where women do show up in male spaces, you have to judge them accordingly, especially when they show up on the first day, assuming they already own the place.
*edit: Quick, unrelated story. Was at the gym last night. Chain gym, riding out a free trial membership. The demographics are easily 80% men, 20% women. Guys are obviously doing most of the lifting and using most of the equipment period. The soundtrack is an in-house radio station playing song after song of processed pop music with lyrics about figuring yourself out, fitting into the cool group, and heartbreak. It's 14-year old girl music and yet I don't see a single person under 19 or 20 (at the very youngest) in sight and almost no women. What the fuck is going on? Why is this the cultural norm, that most commercial public spaces are disproportionately geared towards adolescent women? And no dude is going to complain, because that's "bitch behavior." It's a weird world.
maldittoduende 7y ago
Under that logic we couldn't consider any other animal inferior, yet I'm sure you agree you're superior to a chimpanzee.
Invalidity 7y ago
I'd agree yes, but does proclaiming that I am superior to a chimpanzee serve any purpose? Maybe for self-gratification purposes. All I need to know is what makes me most useful as a man, and what would make the chimpanzee most useful as what it is.
That's why for all important matters, we must hold women to one standard, and men to a separate standard.
maldittoduende 7y ago
So you agree women are inferior then. That's why we hold them to a different, inferior standard. Just as with the chimp. I agree proclaiming it serves no purpose, but to straight up deny it? Here at TRP of all places? Why?
Invalidity 7y ago
As far as I know, very few people (if any) denied the notion that women are inferior to men. Few people bring it up, and when it is brought up, it doesn't contribute any value whatsoever.
CornyHoosier 7y ago
No, men are not better. We're just different.
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We are better. Were different, but also superior. We are literally better at pretty much everything. Shit, Bruce Jenner won woman of the year last year. Were even better at being women then women are. Lmao I kid, I kid. Still, point still stands.
CornyHoosier 7y ago
We're complimentary genders. There are things men excel at and things women excel. C'est la vie.
psychocutiepie 7y ago
Superior how? I'm genuinely curious. Aside from the obvious physical differences (strength, speed etc), what are some ways in which men are definitively "better?" Reliable sources would be appreciated.
BowlOfCandy 7y ago
I'll give this one a shot:
Men are better than women the same way the King is better than the Queen, but you can't accurately claim that the King is better than the Queen at every facet of life.
psychocutiepie 7y ago
But why is the King better than the Queen? There have been many cultures throughout history that were matriarchal so going off power and position in society alone proves nothing.
maldittoduende 7y ago
And where are those cultures now? Men are better at war. Better at politics. Better at science. Better at anything you can think of except for nurturing. We have what, 5 thousand years of written history? If women are equally as good as us, how come they were treated as inferior until very recently? And to top it off, they got their rights because men gave it to them. What else so you need?
Off the top of my head men are better at:
Man I could go on and on. Now you explain to me why women are NOT inferior.
psychocutiepie 7y ago
I hesitate to even dignify this with a response seeing as this list is nothing more than your baseless opinions. It's good thing you didn't add reading comprehension to the list because the reliable sources I asked for are no where to be found.
stonepimpletilists 7y ago
Jesus, how many new endorsed are there lately?
I thought I had all you marked, but lately theres just tons of ya
Invalidity 7y ago
I've been endorsed for over a year.
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scubar 7y ago
Human Beings vs Human Doings
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TheRedStoic 7y ago
The only exception is if the crowd alpha drops.
Women will come running, screaming, crying, but doing nothing useful for miles.
GC0W30 7y ago
She was the ugly one in the crowd. She was a threat to none of then.
DaphneDK 7y ago
Hard to say who is most ugly when they're all rather ugly.
[deleted] 7y ago
We are very clearly better. I hate all this "were different" bs on top. MEN > Women. Yes, we are different. Men are also superior. Superior and different.
UrsusG 7y ago
To be fair, the woman with the short hair on the right is the first to react and grabs the fatso trying to stop her from falling.
The men are second in order to notice her falling, and react.
The women on the left are last to notice that something's happened, and by that time there are already 4 guys standing around Moby Dick's carcass.
If I were late to notice the event like those women were, I'd have stood still too. No need to make a crowd, and four people helping is enough.
I know op is eager to see the world through his newly acquired red lens, but this is not the best example.
Redasshole 7y ago
She was helping her to a given extent and not more. She didn't do what it would have taken to help, she just did a little bit to be able to say "hey I tried something". She wasn't willing to help, just to show off how caring and everything she is
ddy4sissy 7y ago
pfft she reached out to giver her a little comfort. But she was damn careful not to drop her little flag.
lurkythelurkingbean 7y ago
Da fuck you talkin' about? If anything, she pushed the bitch down!
Captain-hatefact 7y ago
Wow your little hamster is just going mad up in that little noggin of yours.
NOT ONE WOMAN STEPPED UP TO HELP.
Corndog_Enthusiast 7y ago
Wow talk about newly acquired RP lens...
Pastelitomaracucho 7y ago
m-maybe you are over-analyzing, mang....
All I can see is that all women in the gif are fucking fat
cholomite 7y ago
Women and feminists can preach about how we are all equal, but in any high stress situation that causes us to react instinctually the truth comes out. Natural law is ingrained in our DNA. Men handle shit in stressful situations, we are better at it and women's deep brain realizes this and they instinctually step aside or look to men to react. Even the most ardent feminist will revert to looking for a man's reaction in a situation that invokes an instinctual response. You can't shut off millions of years of evolution because you read an article or a tumblr post.
Captain-hatefact 7y ago
Ex firefighter here. Having worked countless emergency scenes, unless a female has received specific training in how to deal with emergency situations I have found it a universal truth that during emergencies women AT BEST are in the way. At worst they react/ overreact in totally the wrong way.
malthuswaswrong 7y ago
The genetic reason for this is men are not valuable to reproduction. Any man will do. A colony of 100 women an 1 man can survive. A colony of 1 woman and 100 men is doomed.
Women have evolved to stay safe. Men have evolved to protect women. Tribes that didn't follow this rule didn't survive to the modern age.
no_face 7y ago
I have lost the reference to the research, but someone once determined that only 20% of the males in each generation need to survive to repopulate the next generation with sufficient genetic diversity to avoid birth defects.
Historically 80% of women reproduced but only 40% of men did.
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putin_vor 7y ago
A colony of 100 women and 1 man cannot survive. Not enough genetic diversity.
walking_ape 7y ago
A clan of 100 women and 1 man will be raided by a clan that has more than 20 men. Their women will be raped and the genes of the 20 males will reproduce, while that 1 man will be killed.
A clan still needs men to thrive.
harkrank 7y ago
You mean a clan with more than 2 men?
theDarkAngle 7y ago
I would revise the numbers to be 500 women and 100 men so that it actually is plausible, but I think the point is that the other clan is all dead. In fact, some of your 500 women probably came from that other clan, perhaps with some sons that will come of age in the next few years, if you can accept them and avoid the whole infanticide angle.
devilkingx2 7y ago
um... 1 man and 100 women isn't very workable either
disposable_me_0001 7y ago
If there was 1 man and only 100 women left in the universe, they'd find a way to make it work.
Redasshole 7y ago
Depends, if they are feminists they might chop his dick off to free themselves and the future generations from male oppression.
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DeputyDelicious 7y ago
Did....did you just post a dank meme in TRP and get away with it? BRAVO SIR.
BowlOfCandy 7y ago
Straight from The_Donald my fellow centipede
RedMoonAscendant 7y ago
...centipede? I think I missed some memo.
kayrabb 7y ago
There's a girl with short hair to her left that reached out right away and stepped up to help?
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Smexsi 7y ago
But failed, and then slowly tried to step forth, as if somehow only "faking" a real effort. I wonder if the fainting womans weight had anything to do with it. Das a big gurl right dur.
fokum8 7y ago
They're clearly reacting first so they can molest her while she's down!
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BAMbaca 7y ago
Umm the lady on the right that try's to stop her from falling is the first to react...
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Moneyley 7y ago
She's just empowered, you seem intimidated.
*Fuck, I couldnt write you that without laughing
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
She reacts a tiny little bit, then stands around helplessly while others dive in.
FickleMerryBin 7y ago
Yeah, what can she do? A bunch of other men got there first, eager to help.
Demonspawn 7y ago
That didn't stop the man from 3 rows back.
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
I mean, this is one example. It's hardly representative.
But there is little doubt that in this case, the guys are wayyyyyy more helpful than the women.
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Moneyley 7y ago
The dichotomy here is that women know each other and men instinctively dont care. I've read that if you try to render aid, you can be susceptible to being sued. Women are more likely to sue after being saved, then men are. They just instinctively stay back
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
Yeah, maybe the women have it right here. Self interest prevails with them.
Ericgzg 7y ago
Let's be fair, all the people closest and adjacent to her were men. The women who were closest looked concerned but probably figured (rightly) that any more people "helping" would just amount to extra people in the way. We're not feminists here its ok to be reasonable in our assessments of women.
ghee99 7y ago
Actually, it does look like the woman next to her tried to help her as she was falling (although as the woman next to her was a sort of butch lesbian type, perhaps it was her manly side that caused to want act in a helpful was to a woman in distress)
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AzzyMcGee 7y ago
Some people are new, some people NEED TRP to be justified.
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quelques_heures 7y ago
This is the fallacy of feminism. Men not only conquer but are expected to conquer. They're the ones that have to put their lives on the line when the wolf is at the door, while the women and children are safe and protected.
raisins3142 7y ago
Same thing on a youtube video that will be the top hit if you search there for
dolphin rescue.
There are many beached dolphins and the women sit around with their hand to their mouth or taking pics while the men immediately save the whole pod. Some women in the comments actually notice this as well and call the women out.
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MEN> WOMEN
Women absolutely should be dichotomized like this. Mother Hen Career Whore (You know, most career women) who takes too much pride in her own opinion and demands her co-captainship should be punished. She is mentally diseased with penis envy, like most feminists.. Women are not equal and when we say they are "different" lets get real, that is just a euphemism for inferior. There's nothing wrong in admitting this. They are as a whole less intelligent, unethical, irrational and incapable of reciprocating love with an adult male. They know this. We know this. Yet somehow we continue to give these grown up-children a seat at the table. Why?
MoneyStatusLooks 7y ago
Stuff like this explains that why in my niche, 90% of women are the customers and 90% of men are entrepreneurs running the businesses.
You would think women would have an edge at understanding the market, appealing to other women through marketing and just generally being able to relate more to the products and other women, thus having a sales edge. But nope, it's all men running the companies, taking the risk, it's the women consuming the product.
Hard to complain though, there is a small group of men in my industry getting excessively wealthy.
stonepimpletilists 7y ago
Lol, all I could think about were parades. There was always a 100 pound girl in each one who would pass out, because they didn't eat breakfast, and didn't wiggle their toes.
You think we would be good at standing for an hour. Some guys would too, usually because they were hung the fuck over from a night of drinking.
Women = Man post drunk hangover.
nevva_Again 7y ago
WE ARE BETTER.
Who are you scared of?
Its true that we are different, but we are better.
Even women women agree that men are better.
psychocutiepie 7y ago
What is your evidence for this?
BowlOfCandy 7y ago
Men are most definitely better leaders, but I cannot agree that we are better in all regards.
We are better than them the same way the King is better than the Queen, but you can't accurately claim that the King is better than the Queen at every facet of life.
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This. Men are better. Anyone who's scared to admit that is an idiot. The most useless man on earth > the most useless woman on earth.
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Caucasian-African 7y ago
This is one of my pet peeves. Anytime I get light-headed, I squat down. This increases blood pressure, and I feel better in a few seconds... Doesn't everyone know this? It happens to me a few times each year, and I've never fallen over like that.
Oh, and you're right, I'm amazed that the women did nothing inspite of their being the "more empathetic" sex...
autoNFA 7y ago
Or they can see, accurately, that the men are handling it and that there's no slack to pick up. That's a heavy woman who just fainted. It's better for men to help rather than women in this scenario. Men are more capable here, and these women know it.
jasonmiles2014 7y ago
Did she faint or did her knees just finally say, "Fuck this."?
Sawagurumi 7y ago
Not just 'here', I don't think they were standing there logically calculating her body mass, they just didn't react. Meanwhile, the guys immediately jumped in. You say 'the men were handling it', but I think the point is the men went in to handle it. In that same moment the women could have too, but that was not their instinctive reaction. The woman to her right did try to grab her (ineffectually), but other than the black guy to her left all the people closest to her were women, yet it was men who got in there.
It isn't a great example, but the initial split second response to a situation like this is quite telling. Of course, if there were no men there, the women would have stepped forward and helped; I think it was the fact that there were men present that caused them to hold back and let the men handle it, which is telling in itself.
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paynehouse 7y ago
My mother is a nurse, she would have reacted perfectly to this situation. In fact, many women are excellent caretakers. There are people in the way of all the women in this gif. There's one woman who looks very concerned and steps forward looking to help, but by then there were already people helping her because they were closer. This is just a dumb post.
DavidEdwardsUK 7y ago
I agree about the first part, my mother would certainly have jumped to help given her line of work, and I know this because I've seen it happen on two occasions. But I disagree about the 2nd because none of those girls in the gift made any attempt to react.