Thanks prez, we had no idea that raping people is bad. Just a bunch of rabies infected dogs here raping away like it doesn't matter. Thanks for pep talk.
P.S how are those drone strikes going? Did we kill more babies that could potentially turn into terrorists?
There is absolutely no fucking way he should be taking about trivial bullshit like this when there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT things happening in our country. Fuck this guy.
Translation. I am desparate to cling to the senate. The republicans are gonna hammer the crap out of me on things like using the IRS as stormtroopers to attack my political enemies, creating ISIS, supplying mexican narcothugs with guns.... Quick lets pander to the narcissistic vote.
It is remarkable to see how poorly Democratic political strategists at the highest levels understand psychology and leadership. They are currently attempting to make gender a wedge issue to solidify the female vote as permanently democratic, presumably in preparation for Hillary's run in 2016.
However, their strategy is to go 100% with the victim feminist narrative, as opposed to the agent/leader feminist narrative. Either they do not understand they are mutually exclusive, or they have tested both, and gotten better results with the former.
But this badly undercuts Hilary's ability to present herself as a strong, cool-under-fire, leader/agent. She will be swimming against this woman-as-perpetual-victim narrative for her entire campaign.
One cynical read is that they are trying to get all of the women's issues taken care of now, so that she can avoid talking about them without pissing off her base, in the same way as Obama mostly avoids the subject of race.
But this badly undercuts Hilary's ability to present herself as a strong, cool-under-fire, leader/agent. She will be swimming against this woman-as-perpetual-victim narrative for her entire campaign.
You're making the usual mistake of being rational... For the average voter, esp female voter rationality does not come into play.
IMO Hillary missed her chance in 2008, and won't get that chance again. I've actually been looking at political betting websites so that I can put some money on Hillary not even being chosen as the Dem candidate in 2016.
If you remember, Hillary got on stage and started crying like a child because the world was just not faaairrr when Obama was beating her in the 2008 nominations. It worked and she took a state or two, dragging out the nomination process longer than it should have.
Don't underestimate the power of a woman throwing a tantrum because she isn't winning. It still works, apparently even for the most powerful position in the country
If someone is a "conservative," they would never vote for Hitlery. Never. Perhaps these women you know are more conservative in comparison to other women you know, but they are not even remotely "conservative" if they would even consider voting for that hag.
Agree. To a little less than half of American women, Hillary is one more baby murderer. I think the focus on sexual assault is a macro-move to make feminism more "anti-rape", (which is hard to be against in public,) and less "pro-fetus-murder".
New idea I hadn't considered before:
Conservatives have been largely successful at limiting access to abortion in Red states, and the core of the feminist old guard is still terrified that one day Roe v Wade will be overturned or neutered. However, pretty much every anti-abortion bill is DOA unless it includes exceptions for 2 things: to save the life of the mother, and (you guessed it) rape.
Is it too much of a conspiracy theory to suppose that the recent push to expand the definition of rape to "basically any sex that a woman regrets, or after she had a drink" is part of a defensive maneuver to preserve access to abortion?
This is very difficult for the right to counter without sounding pro-rape. (They are mostly not capable of speaking on the subject without committing political suicide. See Todd Akin)
I have been puzzled by the sudden urgency of this recent coordinated push to make sexual assault an ISSUE, given that the studies quoted are mostly old and well discredited.
Going after the women's vote, and preserving feminism's relevance when women outnumber men in college, is the most obvious motivation. But this feels more coordinated and urgent than that would account for.
I think that the power core of academic/political feminism got together in a smoke filled room a couple years ago, and decided to broaden the definition of rape enough that a woman will always have the option to legally murder her fetus, as long as she's willing to sacrifice the life of the father.
Tell me I'm crazy. I really want to believe I'm crazy.
(For the record, I'm Pro Choice, especially if it might be mine, but I don't try to pretend it's not baby murder. I'm just OK with baby murder I guess.)
The redefinition of rape to be very broad is definitely a power grab. SJW types now are doing everything they can to get as much power as they can while society seems to be supporting them.
I hope I live long enough for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction. It may already be slowing down or turning around right now. It does seem that people are fed up, but that may just be my confirmation bias.
Like how most progressives feel awkward being critical of Obama because we are conditioned to avoid ANYTHING that could even hint at an accusation of racism, Democrats are going back to the same well.
Do you not value women? "GUESS NOT if you aren't voting for Hillary." Are you a good boy, blue pill, ally to women? "VOTE FOR HILLARY AND GET BACK IN YOUR CORNER, SEXLESS FREAK. We have hate paste to swallow."
I would argue that the Republicans are just worse, but I take your point.
Obama's primary campaign against Hillary is also instructive, and she still has not corrected her primary flaw, which is an inability to truly lead in an emotional way. I think 3/4 of her female supporters are loyal to the idea of a female president. If a woman candidate with stronger character and better political skills came along, I think they would forget Hillary existed.
Already exists, called Elizabeth Warren, might actually make for a decent president, I think Hillary is a Worf candidate. But if, by some miracle, the Rs get their heads out of their asses and put up a decent candidate (fucking Romney?) who doesn't backpedal on everything that made them popular as a politician to nail down the middle fringe (McCain), Dems would probably be making a stupid move like actually going for HC because when Rs do smart shit, Ds do dumb shit because we have too few political parties and megacorps own their butts.
I was thinking of Elizabeth Warren when I wrote that actually. I think she is too softy/lefty in her delivery. Not presidential seeming, even though she has a firmer grasp of economic and fiscal issues than all but the smartest 1% of congress. I doubt we will hear her make a peep about college rape culture or the fake pay gap, because she likely knows they are fictional straw men, and she is much more interested in going after Republicans on socio-economic issues. I wish she would make an effort to sound less populist, more technochratic/stateswomanly, which she is clearly capable of.
I'm so tired of hearing this Feminist bullshit regarding sexual assault. Yes, sexual assault is a serious crime, but 1 in 4 women are not victims of sexual assault. That statistic has been thoroughly discredited.
There are two types of value: ascribed and earned. Women are considered inherently valuable in society, because vagina. Men are considered inherently worthless. When it comes to earned value, however, a woman has to struggle to achieve a portion of the value men earn throughout their life.
This leads to women exploiting their inherent value, because exploiting earned value is simply inefficient. Why should a woman waste time getting an education when she can coast her way through college with slightly above average looks and marry an engineer.
It's cyclical: the less emphasis give to earned value in women, the more women are forced to rely on inherent value, and the less incentive to pursue earned value.
Men in the United States better prepare themselves, when Hillary is elected we are all going to get supremely fucked by the gigantic Strap-on of Feminist Gender Equality.
Yeah, any man that thinks reparations won't be paid by the male population for the thousands of years of female victimization at the hands of the Patriarchy is in for a rude awakening.
I hope they do that, and I hope they're Treaty of Versailles harsh - then the backlash will be glorious, and since there's only two sides to this war, there won't be anyone to save them from the blitz.
He has done his job perfectly. Let the rich people really running the appear they are not racist by letting a black man be president, but have him appear so incompetent that no one will ever vote for consider voting for another minority president for the next 50 years.
Obama knows that he could reinstate Jim Crow and still win the black vote. He also knows that white women put him into office, and that white women could potentially put Hillary in office as well. Unfortunately, the perceived interest of white women and black men rarely align.
I was on a jury who gave a fair trial and an acquittal to a black man the prosecutor and judge wanted put away. Jury half white half black. Two strongest voices for full acquittal were myself and another white man.
You get some affirmative action to help you get a job, but not as much as black women. So I think you are just telling a sob story about being unable to get a job because of your skin color.
It is true that women are being given more and more; it's beyond ridiculous. And now that there's some organization among men to fight back (MRA, Red Pill, Game, etc.) Obama has to step in to try to push harder against it.
You sir are correct. Not to mention race baiting. No one I know from California ever bothered to bitch about the skin color of people before he was elected, liberal or conservative alike. That said when I moved to the south, a lot of people I know say that race relations were better before he got into office. Just my .02
Black people affirmative action for college and jobs, a massive benefit by any definition. It sounds like you're just trying to rationalize your subpar credentials.
I wonder if one could assemble statistics comparing a black college age male's likelyhood of being raped in prison to a white female's likelyhood of being raped in college. I bet black males "win".
But I haven't looked into it.
It would make a delicious soundbite if it's true.
The biggest mistake was giving women the right to vote. Male vote represented the family. Women vote for themselves, and since they're emotional (as opposed to rational) it's the absolute worst possible outcome for society.
Woah, I've never thought about that somehow, it is like a whole another level of understanding.
I think it is time to invent a voter license, similar to a driver license. If you want to commit, then, please, be a knowledgeable and valuable person. Other people? If you have no idea what you are doing your vote is essentially useless and just creates a noise.
It's worse than that. Most people/voters can't think critically, and can't do simple arithmetic. They're just there to be herded by simplistic soundbites. Democracy is broken.
Do we need 90% female enrollment in college instead of 65% female and only 35% male?
Do we need 100% male incarceration in prisons and concentration camps with 0% of women in prison instead of just 96% male and 4% female?
Do we need more femcentric elementary school classrooms and curriculums? Perhaps we should just exclude young boys from school altogether and put them to work in the fields at a young age?
Do we need 100% of the money spend on "female diseases" because spending 80% of the money on them is still not valuing women enough? Even though far more men die of prostate cancer than breast cancer we spend 5X's the money on the 'female' disease (and devote months of pink towels and socks for breast cancer awareness month). How many of you shitlords even knew that factoid?
Should we turn marriage into overt rather than covert slavery? Perhaps force men to work full time and require them to hand over their paycheck to their wives while they sleep with the hawwwt guy in your bed? Oh wait, we already do that. We need to do more!
What do we need to do to value women more, Mr. President?
Yeah, it's his way of beginning his payback for the help the Clinton's gave him the last go-round, but doing so in an indirect manner so that they keep their political distance.
No one votes on anyone's merits because all voting is implied violence.
You vote for your brand because the other brand is going to harm you, so, better to harm them first? Classic divide-to-keep-conquered. Billions of dollars are spent every election cycle to reinforce this belief. It doesn't matter one whit the gender of the politician the masses "choose." Gender, race, sexual-orientation and religion are just segments of the mob to play against itself with carefully crafted public-relations.
It doesn't matter who is in office---just that you keep believing it will "help." There is no salvation in some other "great man," because the system was never grown to solve problems or enable a "great man" to lead. People are flawed and every election cycle is a parade of magical thinking of "This time it counts!" or "This time it's different!" In the end the system was grown to conceal the violence that makes everyone a beta who believe that somehow "if they're nice enough again" they might get a "piece of the action." The system was grown to justify the violence be hiding it under a veneer of "authority" via the mystical ballot-box.
It's women coupled with minority men against white men, but the effect is that Feminism gets worse and worse.
At some point the African male and Hispanic male will go Red Pill and realize they are making things worse.
The future political parties will likely lose the racist angle and go towards the gender angle.
Democrats look to be the "Party of Women".
And I guess you "other guys" need to become Republican one day.
I'm a white guy... the Republican party largely doesn't exist as a real competitor anymore, so unless you love Feminism (not likely) you are just being foolish supporting them.
Hillary looks like the next president.
I might add that "Republican" used to mean "rule by men". The idea of a Republic is about the most Red Pill political idea possible. It was the racist angle that got males voting for Feminist causes.
Women vote for Democrats because they are the Feminist stronghold.
These are the cold hard facts.
The Republican party is mostly male and mostly white. What is needed is more African and Hispanic males to go Red Pill and vote along with other males.
I need to start working on my 'bail from america the second she gets elected' plan. I really really hope the republicans have someone strong and reasonable who can compete but it's looking unlikely.
I'd settle with a democrat who even did anything. Obama has been absolutely fucking awful. Half his campaign has been pandering to women. So atrocious. American politics makes me sick, truly. I really want to move to another country but I don't have any idea how I, as a college aged male, could accomplish that without massive funds.
As soon as you graduate, go anywhere in Asia and teach English. You'll need, maybe, a grand and a plane ticket to make it work. 2k if you want to get certification. Best decision ever. Women aside, as long as your business doesn't attract too much attention, a lot of these countries are crazy free economically. Think Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam, some parts of China. You can do whatever you want, hire whoever you want, pay whatever you want, etc. If you ever get big enough that the government cares about you, it means you have enough cash to bribe your way out of problems, so you can just take it as a mark of success.
Be careful about advising bribes. I understand that legally nothing you say is binding blah blah blah. Bribes can land you serious time should you ever return to the homeland. I have a friend attempting to negotiate a mining contract in the Philippines and won't move forward because one of the officials he needs to deal with thinks his signature is worth 60k USD
Just a thought. Be safe and smart.
Yes. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say bribe. I would never contravene the letter or spirit of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. I meant fine. Legal and statutorily established fine for economic activity of a certain size. That's how it works often enough anyway.
Don't become official until you have to, and then do business as a foreign firm within the country. Also useful for immigration issues. What I'm doing isn't big enough to need any official papers yet, but I have a friend who runs a decently sized software consultancy firm founded in San Francisco with a branch in Hanoi. The business infrastructure here is so poor that he's been trying to go official for 2 years (all the poor guy wants to do is pay taxes and be a good corporate citizen!), but has had a very hard time getting any information about the paperwork. The government could care less about his operations. For some perspective, he has a Vietnamese wife, so it's not just a language problem. A lot of things that are true on paper here aren't really true on the ground. It was a very weird transition coming from a place as bureaucratically thorough as the U.S.
It is riskier than starting a business in the U.S., especially from a copyright, trademark perspective. But I lean pretty far libertarian, so if someone can steal my brand and do it better than me, God bless them. The market has compensations for this already in place: people are hyper-aware of counterfeit, pirated products, and hyper-aware that they're less valuable than the real thing. Also, risk v. reward. The risk is definitely higher, but the potential reward is enormous in emerging markets like this.
I lived in a couple other countries besides the US. The real problem is US influence. Hollywood and the State Department are pushing all these 'wonderful' progressive ideas everywhere, poisoning whatever healthy societies may still exist.
I don't have much recent info about Norway. Sweden is a disaster area of feminism and third world immigration. Finland seems to be holding so far. More boring than Norway though.
Fuck sweden. For real. They were supposed to be the promised country man, then feminism and bigotry and immigration got ahold of them. I'd rather cut my dick off than live in finland too. I had a friend I met on some forum from finland and he would constantly message me about how he couldnt do anything cause there was nothing to do.
No that's going to go to Obama. I swear someone I know on Facebook posts some stupid shit about how he's such a great person and a great president. At least once a fucking week. Thing is, the news media can't seem to get enough of his dick
Well, women have been outvoting men since the 80's. It simply makes sense to pander to that. While that's just politics in it's purest form, the focus should be making men vote in higher numbers.
It is interesting though that since women have been outvoting men that they haven't elected more women. The usual excuse is "feelings being hurt" and other tales of misogyny and "old boys club" intimidation stuff, but it is also that most women don't mind, and actually like a man in charge while most men don't like a woman in charge. That's an oversimplification, of course, but generally speaking...
Think of governments & voting in RedPill terms and it makes sense.
Early terms of election periods are all about AF. Instant gratification and what the voter wants now. The mid period is BB, ensuring that your chosen party has suitably influenced certain aspects that benefit you in a longer term. The end stages leading up to the next elections are about ensuring that pre-ground work is in place to influence who is next chosen as AF.
Then on a Male/Female perspective, it boils down to the old basis of Women like to feel dominated and told what needs doing as per standard RP. Having a female president or ruler would probably alienate most female voters as what the female president wants and tries to implement will not work for the majority of female voters.
This keys into the whole 'Women In Competition' with each other aspect. That and that in the long run if a female leader does wrong, they view it as a bad reflection on all womanhood, not the individual party members (remember women work on a collective basis, not individual basis) so blaming a male leader works better if things do go wrong.
Women vote based on feels, thus are perfect to manipulate. The Scottish Freedom vote was an example of this. Cameron used a lot of emotive language designed to inspire fear.
It worked, mostly women voted to stay in the Union, despite the horrendous track record of Westminster.
People are just fucking dumb. "Hope and Change"? The emptiest slogan ever. Allows every moron to imagine that whatever change they hope for they will get. And people fell for it.
Can Obama explain to us all what do women contribute to society in order to be valued as much as men? sandwiches? blowjobs? acceding to more important offices just because of the feminist brainwash?
mstersmith 9y ago
Start acting like a man and we will treat you like one.
Toof 9y ago
18 seconds in, "Well wait, that's what we're doing to the Middle East..."
Squeezymypenisy 9y ago
He's speaking to part of the base that elected him.
MikeyCSGO 9y ago
That's a very SAFE thing to say if you are the president of the united states.
If I were him Id say the same shit
weightsareheavy 9y ago
He can't get re-elected so who gives a fuck how "safe" it is. Grow a set.
reality_is_rorschach 9y ago
Thanks prez, we had no idea that raping people is bad. Just a bunch of rabies infected dogs here raping away like it doesn't matter. Thanks for pep talk.
P.S how are those drone strikes going? Did we kill more babies that could potentially turn into terrorists?
[deleted] 9y ago
I'm sick of this politically correct culture.
[deleted] 9y ago
This isn't being politically correct.
This is being politically manipulative
anonlymouse 9y ago
You need to unpack what politically correct means.
theycallme1 9y ago
There is absolutely no fucking way he should be taking about trivial bullshit like this when there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT things happening in our country. Fuck this guy.
AnotherLostCause 9y ago
Translation. I am desparate to cling to the senate. The republicans are gonna hammer the crap out of me on things like using the IRS as stormtroopers to attack my political enemies, creating ISIS, supplying mexican narcothugs with guns.... Quick lets pander to the narcissistic vote.
anonlymouse 9y ago
Operation Cyclone was started under Carter. There's a solid argument that Democrats are creating terrorist organisations that are attacking the US.
General_Fear 9y ago
And what if the rapist has a gun? Do they expect men to talk a bullet in the chest in order to protect a woman?
In the age when we have hash tag KillAllMen on twitter, I think that I will not risk my life. Besides women say that they don't need a man.
Occams_Shiv 9y ago
It is remarkable to see how poorly Democratic political strategists at the highest levels understand psychology and leadership. They are currently attempting to make gender a wedge issue to solidify the female vote as permanently democratic, presumably in preparation for Hillary's run in 2016.
However, their strategy is to go 100% with the victim feminist narrative, as opposed to the agent/leader feminist narrative. Either they do not understand they are mutually exclusive, or they have tested both, and gotten better results with the former.
But this badly undercuts Hilary's ability to present herself as a strong, cool-under-fire, leader/agent. She will be swimming against this woman-as-perpetual-victim narrative for her entire campaign.
One cynical read is that they are trying to get all of the women's issues taken care of now, so that she can avoid talking about them without pissing off her base, in the same way as Obama mostly avoids the subject of race.
I don't think it will work though.
vaker 9y ago
You're making the usual mistake of being rational... For the average voter, esp female voter rationality does not come into play.
NakedAndBehindYou 9y ago
IMO Hillary missed her chance in 2008, and won't get that chance again. I've actually been looking at political betting websites so that I can put some money on Hillary not even being chosen as the Dem candidate in 2016.
rebuildingMyself 9y ago
If you remember, Hillary got on stage and started crying like a child because the world was just not faaairrr when Obama was beating her in the 2008 nominations. It worked and she took a state or two, dragging out the nomination process longer than it should have.
Don't underestimate the power of a woman throwing a tantrum because she isn't winning. It still works, apparently even for the most powerful position in the country
UGoBoom 9y ago
Is there a video of the crying Clinton?
WeAreAllSheep 9y ago
tl;dr Women are going to vote for Hilliary solely because she is a woman. Even the most conservative women I know are voting Hilliary.
Dancingqueen89 9y ago
You're crazy. People HATE the clintons. There is so much hate left over from bills presidency I don't see how she could win, but my luck she will.
My wife, daughter, mother, sisters, female in-laws will not be voting for her. They can't stand pig in a pant suit.
brother_red 9y ago
If someone is a "conservative," they would never vote for Hitlery. Never. Perhaps these women you know are more conservative in comparison to other women you know, but they are not even remotely "conservative" if they would even consider voting for that hag.
rebuildingMyself 9y ago
Women vote with their emotions. Politics rarely has a part in it. Getting their vote is stupid easy
Occams_Shiv 9y ago
Agree. To a little less than half of American women, Hillary is one more baby murderer. I think the focus on sexual assault is a macro-move to make feminism more "anti-rape", (which is hard to be against in public,) and less "pro-fetus-murder".
New idea I hadn't considered before:
Conservatives have been largely successful at limiting access to abortion in Red states, and the core of the feminist old guard is still terrified that one day Roe v Wade will be overturned or neutered. However, pretty much every anti-abortion bill is DOA unless it includes exceptions for 2 things: to save the life of the mother, and (you guessed it) rape.
Is it too much of a conspiracy theory to suppose that the recent push to expand the definition of rape to "basically any sex that a woman regrets, or after she had a drink" is part of a defensive maneuver to preserve access to abortion?
This is very difficult for the right to counter without sounding pro-rape. (They are mostly not capable of speaking on the subject without committing political suicide. See Todd Akin)
I have been puzzled by the sudden urgency of this recent coordinated push to make sexual assault an ISSUE, given that the studies quoted are mostly old and well discredited.
Going after the women's vote, and preserving feminism's relevance when women outnumber men in college, is the most obvious motivation. But this feels more coordinated and urgent than that would account for.
I think that the power core of academic/political feminism got together in a smoke filled room a couple years ago, and decided to broaden the definition of rape enough that a woman will always have the option to legally murder her fetus, as long as she's willing to sacrifice the life of the father.
Tell me I'm crazy. I really want to believe I'm crazy.
(For the record, I'm Pro Choice, especially if it might be mine, but I don't try to pretend it's not baby murder. I'm just OK with baby murder I guess.)
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MetacognitiveMan 9y ago
Interesting thoughts.
The redefinition of rape to be very broad is definitely a power grab. SJW types now are doing everything they can to get as much power as they can while society seems to be supporting them.
I hope I live long enough for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction. It may already be slowing down or turning around right now. It does seem that people are fed up, but that may just be my confirmation bias.
LastRevision 9y ago
"Cthulhu swims slowly but he always swims left."
SweetiePieJonas 9y ago
Well, Hillary is a conservative, so...
LastRevision 9y ago
Like how most progressives feel awkward being critical of Obama because we are conditioned to avoid ANYTHING that could even hint at an accusation of racism, Democrats are going back to the same well.
Do you not value women? "GUESS NOT if you aren't voting for Hillary." Are you a good boy, blue pill, ally to women? "VOTE FOR HILLARY AND GET BACK IN YOUR CORNER, SEXLESS FREAK. We have hate paste to swallow."
Occams_Shiv 9y ago
Yes, but victimhood is not compatible with leadership. Even women voters will be turned off if she goes for the victim card even once.
Imagine Thatcher or Golda Meir doing it. Never happen.
LastRevision 9y ago
Why can't it be:
1) The majority of women are victimized
2) Hillary champions these women as acts as an advocate for them and a strong, bold leader.
Dancingqueen89 9y ago
Because that only panders to the sjw liberal crowd. They love being portrayed as victims. How do you get the other half of women?
johnbranflake 9y ago
Remember the 2 am Red phone call commercial Hillary did? I think it backfired, people imagined a woman being on the phone.
anonlymouse 9y ago
Maybe they understand it very well and are ignoring it. Comparing Romney's campaign to Obama's suggests the Democrats have the better strategists.
Occams_Shiv 9y ago
I would argue that the Republicans are just worse, but I take your point.
Obama's primary campaign against Hillary is also instructive, and she still has not corrected her primary flaw, which is an inability to truly lead in an emotional way. I think 3/4 of her female supporters are loyal to the idea of a female president. If a woman candidate with stronger character and better political skills came along, I think they would forget Hillary existed.
[deleted] 9y ago
Already exists, called Elizabeth Warren, might actually make for a decent president, I think Hillary is a Worf candidate. But if, by some miracle, the Rs get their heads out of their asses and put up a decent candidate (fucking Romney?) who doesn't backpedal on everything that made them popular as a politician to nail down the middle fringe (McCain), Dems would probably be making a stupid move like actually going for HC because when Rs do smart shit, Ds do dumb shit because we have too few political parties and megacorps own their butts.
Punctuation.
Occams_Shiv 9y ago
I was thinking of Elizabeth Warren when I wrote that actually. I think she is too softy/lefty in her delivery. Not presidential seeming, even though she has a firmer grasp of economic and fiscal issues than all but the smartest 1% of congress. I doubt we will hear her make a peep about college rape culture or the fake pay gap, because she likely knows they are fictional straw men, and she is much more interested in going after Republicans on socio-economic issues. I wish she would make an effort to sound less populist, more technochratic/stateswomanly, which she is clearly capable of.
She is the only woman I would vote for.
redpilldude 9y ago
I'm so tired of hearing this Feminist bullshit regarding sexual assault. Yes, sexual assault is a serious crime, but 1 in 4 women are not victims of sexual assault. That statistic has been thoroughly discredited.
Funkychedder 9y ago
He's right, but not in the way he's thinking.
There are two types of value: ascribed and earned. Women are considered inherently valuable in society, because vagina. Men are considered inherently worthless. When it comes to earned value, however, a woman has to struggle to achieve a portion of the value men earn throughout their life.
This leads to women exploiting their inherent value, because exploiting earned value is simply inefficient. Why should a woman waste time getting an education when she can coast her way through college with slightly above average looks and marry an engineer.
It's cyclical: the less emphasis give to earned value in women, the more women are forced to rely on inherent value, and the less incentive to pursue earned value.
[deleted] 9y ago
Men in the United States better prepare themselves, when Hillary is elected we are all going to get supremely fucked by the gigantic Strap-on of Feminist Gender Equality.
T-rexTea 9y ago
We're already being fucked by it. If Hillary is elected, the strap-on will merely protract its spikes.
[deleted] 9y ago
Yeah, any man that thinks reparations won't be paid by the male population for the thousands of years of female victimization at the hands of the Patriarchy is in for a rude awakening.
anonlymouse 9y ago
I hope they do that, and I hope they're Treaty of Versailles harsh - then the backlash will be glorious, and since there's only two sides to this war, there won't be anyone to save them from the blitz.
bangbangahah 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1nO_whoB-E&list=UU2nNa3nblzfIG_yNmoOqLEg
Obongos pussified feminist speeches are pretty lulzy
[deleted] 9y ago
Lol at obongos. Haven't heard that one yet and gave me quite a chuckle
bisexie 9y ago
Let me be clear...
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LastRevision 9y ago
Imagine the SHIT STORM x 1000 if he had said, "our society has begun to not sufficiently value men."
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[deleted] 9y ago
He has done his job perfectly. Let the rich people really running the appear they are not racist by letting a black man be president, but have him appear so incompetent that no one will ever vote for consider voting for another minority president for the next 50 years.
[deleted] 9y ago
Obama knows that he could reinstate Jim Crow and still win the black vote. He also knows that white women put him into office, and that white women could potentially put Hillary in office as well. Unfortunately, the perceived interest of white women and black men rarely align.
cover20 9y ago
I was on a jury who gave a fair trial and an acquittal to a black man the prosecutor and judge wanted put away. Jury half white half black. Two strongest voices for full acquittal were myself and another white man.
You get some affirmative action to help you get a job, but not as much as black women. So I think you are just telling a sob story about being unable to get a job because of your skin color.
It is true that women are being given more and more; it's beyond ridiculous. And now that there's some organization among men to fight back (MRA, Red Pill, Game, etc.) Obama has to step in to try to push harder against it.
Fortunately I think he'll completely fail.
not_my_brah 9y ago
What fucking INFURIATES me is when Hispanics refer to themselves as "minorities" despite being the majority in many areas - eg California.
RP408JZG 9y ago
You sir are correct. Not to mention race baiting. No one I know from California ever bothered to bitch about the skin color of people before he was elected, liberal or conservative alike. That said when I moved to the south, a lot of people I know say that race relations were better before he got into office. Just my .02
speakertable 9y ago
Black people affirmative action for college and jobs, a massive benefit by any definition. It sounds like you're just trying to rationalize your subpar credentials.
Occams_Shiv 9y ago
I wonder if one could assemble statistics comparing a black college age male's likelyhood of being raped in prison to a white female's likelyhood of being raped in college. I bet black males "win".
But I haven't looked into it. It would make a delicious soundbite if it's true.
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vaker 9y ago
The biggest mistake was giving women the right to vote. Male vote represented the family. Women vote for themselves, and since they're emotional (as opposed to rational) it's the absolute worst possible outcome for society.
etofok 9y ago
Woah, I've never thought about that somehow, it is like a whole another level of understanding.
I think it is time to invent a voter license, similar to a driver license. If you want to commit, then, please, be a knowledgeable and valuable person. Other people? If you have no idea what you are doing your vote is essentially useless and just creates a noise.
I feel like 90% of votes is just a noise.
vaker 9y ago
It's worse than that. Most people/voters can't think critically, and can't do simple arithmetic. They're just there to be herded by simplistic soundbites. Democracy is broken.
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Idle_Redditing 9y ago
Unfortunately only women will be listened to when defending this statement.
Does anyone know why men making this statement have no credibility? Other than "because patriarchy"?
BluepillProfessor 9y ago
How do we value women more, Mr. President?
Do we need 90% female enrollment in college instead of 65% female and only 35% male?
Do we need 100% male incarceration in prisons and concentration camps with 0% of women in prison instead of just 96% male and 4% female?
Do we need more femcentric elementary school classrooms and curriculums? Perhaps we should just exclude young boys from school altogether and put them to work in the fields at a young age?
Do we need 100% of the money spend on "female diseases" because spending 80% of the money on them is still not valuing women enough? Even though far more men die of prostate cancer than breast cancer we spend 5X's the money on the 'female' disease (and devote months of pink towels and socks for breast cancer awareness month). How many of you shitlords even knew that factoid?
Should we turn marriage into overt rather than covert slavery? Perhaps force men to work full time and require them to hand over their paycheck to their wives while they sleep with the hawwwt guy in your bed? Oh wait, we already do that. We need to do more!
What do we need to do to value women more, Mr. President?
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Don't forget female affirmative action in getting jobs. More qualified males are overlooked so the company can claim it is gender diverse
Kvantemekanik 9y ago
Well just look at /r/theredpill , he clearly have a point.
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Glad to know he's running our country.
F9R 9y ago
Obama still does not sufficiently value my cock in his mouth.
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Casanova-Quinn 9y ago
"Our society still does not sufficiently value women."
When a boat is sinking, what's the standard procedure?
All women and children are first on the life boats.
Men are so high value that they're left to drown! /s
JustReward 9y ago
He's just lubing us up for Hilldog 2016
whatsazipper 9y ago
I'm ready
Are you?
FiveRows 9y ago
Yeah, it's his way of beginning his payback for the help the Clinton's gave him the last go-round, but doing so in an indirect manner so that they keep their political distance.
bubbleki 9y ago
November midterms man. He is getting out the female vote.
ValarMorghulis90 9y ago
over my dead fucking body bro
sailorJery 9y ago
I really, REALLY hope she doesn't win the nomination.
CrimsonTideCosby 9y ago
True. And you seen that show "Madam Secretary"? That has got to be specifically designed to make her look favorable.
vaker 9y ago
The propaganda machine is set to work on the population...
RedPillSafe 9y ago
All part of the master plan.
I just saw a commercial with an african american woman holding a negative view of Obama and saying something like:
"Let's not allow HIS failure to effect US."
...the implication is that weak men are pitiful, time to install the Feminist queen.
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No one votes on anyone's merits because all voting is implied violence.
You vote for your brand because the other brand is going to harm you, so, better to harm them first? Classic divide-to-keep-conquered. Billions of dollars are spent every election cycle to reinforce this belief. It doesn't matter one whit the gender of the politician the masses "choose." Gender, race, sexual-orientation and religion are just segments of the mob to play against itself with carefully crafted public-relations.
It doesn't matter who is in office---just that you keep believing it will "help." There is no salvation in some other "great man," because the system was never grown to solve problems or enable a "great man" to lead. People are flawed and every election cycle is a parade of magical thinking of "This time it counts!" or "This time it's different!" In the end the system was grown to conceal the violence that makes everyone a beta who believe that somehow "if they're nice enough again" they might get a "piece of the action." The system was grown to justify the violence be hiding it under a veneer of "authority" via the mystical ballot-box.
Lead yourself. Enjoy your popcorn if you must.
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RedPillSafe 9y ago
It's women coupled with minority men against white men, but the effect is that Feminism gets worse and worse.
At some point the African male and Hispanic male will go Red Pill and realize they are making things worse.
The future political parties will likely lose the racist angle and go towards the gender angle.
Democrats look to be the "Party of Women".
And I guess you "other guys" need to become Republican one day.
I'm a white guy... the Republican party largely doesn't exist as a real competitor anymore, so unless you love Feminism (not likely) you are just being foolish supporting them.
Hillary looks like the next president.
I might add that "Republican" used to mean "rule by men". The idea of a Republic is about the most Red Pill political idea possible. It was the racist angle that got males voting for Feminist causes.
So don't blame me. :)
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RedPillSafe 9y ago
It's not how the voting works.
Women of all races vote Feminist / Democrat.
Men are split along racist lines.
If all the men got together we could flip the Feminists off our backs.
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RedPillSafe 9y ago
The "gender gap" in the last election was 20%.
(look up "voting gender gap")
Women vote for Democrats because they are the Feminist stronghold.
These are the cold hard facts.
The Republican party is mostly male and mostly white. What is needed is more African and Hispanic males to go Red Pill and vote along with other males.
rpmale 9y ago
I need to start working on my 'bail from america the second she gets elected' plan. I really really hope the republicans have someone strong and reasonable who can compete but it's looking unlikely.
vaker 9y ago
Don't get me started on how tone-deaf it was pushing a bankster (Romney) when the economy hasn't even recovered from being fucked up by banksters.
The Republicans are Democrats Light. What's needed is a party that's actually on the right.
rpmale 9y ago
I'd settle with a democrat who even did anything. Obama has been absolutely fucking awful. Half his campaign has been pandering to women. So atrocious. American politics makes me sick, truly. I really want to move to another country but I don't have any idea how I, as a college aged male, could accomplish that without massive funds.
a_man_of_few_words 9y ago
Move to Texas, next best thing.
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As soon as you graduate, go anywhere in Asia and teach English. You'll need, maybe, a grand and a plane ticket to make it work. 2k if you want to get certification. Best decision ever. Women aside, as long as your business doesn't attract too much attention, a lot of these countries are crazy free economically. Think Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam, some parts of China. You can do whatever you want, hire whoever you want, pay whatever you want, etc. If you ever get big enough that the government cares about you, it means you have enough cash to bribe your way out of problems, so you can just take it as a mark of success.
RP408JZG 9y ago
Be careful about advising bribes. I understand that legally nothing you say is binding blah blah blah. Bribes can land you serious time should you ever return to the homeland. I have a friend attempting to negotiate a mining contract in the Philippines and won't move forward because one of the officials he needs to deal with thinks his signature is worth 60k USD Just a thought. Be safe and smart.
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Yes. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say bribe. I would never contravene the letter or spirit of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. I meant fine. Legal and statutorily established fine for economic activity of a certain size. That's how it works often enough anyway.
BleachedWhale 9y ago
Very easy to get a business stolen from you in Vietnam where every business must be majority owned by a local.
Shit is dangerous..
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Don't become official until you have to, and then do business as a foreign firm within the country. Also useful for immigration issues. What I'm doing isn't big enough to need any official papers yet, but I have a friend who runs a decently sized software consultancy firm founded in San Francisco with a branch in Hanoi. The business infrastructure here is so poor that he's been trying to go official for 2 years (all the poor guy wants to do is pay taxes and be a good corporate citizen!), but has had a very hard time getting any information about the paperwork. The government could care less about his operations. For some perspective, he has a Vietnamese wife, so it's not just a language problem. A lot of things that are true on paper here aren't really true on the ground. It was a very weird transition coming from a place as bureaucratically thorough as the U.S.
It is riskier than starting a business in the U.S., especially from a copyright, trademark perspective. But I lean pretty far libertarian, so if someone can steal my brand and do it better than me, God bless them. The market has compensations for this already in place: people are hyper-aware of counterfeit, pirated products, and hyper-aware that they're less valuable than the real thing. Also, risk v. reward. The risk is definitely higher, but the potential reward is enormous in emerging markets like this.
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vaker 9y ago
I lived in a couple other countries besides the US. The real problem is US influence. Hollywood and the State Department are pushing all these 'wonderful' progressive ideas everywhere, poisoning whatever healthy societies may still exist.
rpmale 9y ago
I want to move to Norway. It looks beautiful and the economy and healthcare don't look like trash either. Plus the women and people look great.
vaker 9y ago
I don't have much recent info about Norway. Sweden is a disaster area of feminism and third world immigration. Finland seems to be holding so far. More boring than Norway though.
rpmale 9y ago
Fuck sweden. For real. They were supposed to be the promised country man, then feminism and bigotry and immigration got ahold of them. I'd rather cut my dick off than live in finland too. I had a friend I met on some forum from finland and he would constantly message me about how he couldnt do anything cause there was nothing to do.
vaker 9y ago
Norway appears to be sane, at least on immigration.
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Acx3 9y ago
Thanks to hypoagency, Hillary Clinton will become the first president to do no wrong.
RP408JZG 9y ago
No that's going to go to Obama. I swear someone I know on Facebook posts some stupid shit about how he's such a great person and a great president. At least once a fucking week. Thing is, the news media can't seem to get enough of his dick
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goofproofacorn 9y ago
Single women are statistically the least informed voting group and heavily democrat
nrjk 9y ago
Well, women have been outvoting men since the 80's. It simply makes sense to pander to that. While that's just politics in it's purest form, the focus should be making men vote in higher numbers.
It is interesting though that since women have been outvoting men that they haven't elected more women. The usual excuse is "feelings being hurt" and other tales of misogyny and "old boys club" intimidation stuff, but it is also that most women don't mind, and actually like a man in charge while most men don't like a woman in charge. That's an oversimplification, of course, but generally speaking...
cover20 9y ago
Quite a few women won't vote for a woman. Don't trust her, competitive feelings, all the usual.
Xzal 9y ago
Think of governments & voting in RedPill terms and it makes sense.
Early terms of election periods are all about AF. Instant gratification and what the voter wants now. The mid period is BB, ensuring that your chosen party has suitably influenced certain aspects that benefit you in a longer term. The end stages leading up to the next elections are about ensuring that pre-ground work is in place to influence who is next chosen as AF.
Then on a Male/Female perspective, it boils down to the old basis of Women like to feel dominated and told what needs doing as per standard RP. Having a female president or ruler would probably alienate most female voters as what the female president wants and tries to implement will not work for the majority of female voters.
This keys into the whole 'Women In Competition' with each other aspect. That and that in the long run if a female leader does wrong, they view it as a bad reflection on all womanhood, not the individual party members (remember women work on a collective basis, not individual basis) so blaming a male leader works better if things do go wrong.
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Clauderoughly 9y ago
Women vote based on feels, thus are perfect to manipulate. The Scottish Freedom vote was an example of this. Cameron used a lot of emotive language designed to inspire fear.
It worked, mostly women voted to stay in the Union, despite the horrendous track record of Westminster.
vaker 9y ago
People are just fucking dumb. "Hope and Change"? The emptiest slogan ever. Allows every moron to imagine that whatever change they hope for they will get. And people fell for it.
rpmale 9y ago
His slogan could have been "eat shit and die" and he would have still won.
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Obama is classic beta...his wife holds the power balance in the relationship
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I'd say the same exact thing if I was selected president.
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yimanya 9y ago
Of course it doesn't! Meanwhile you jarheads board that plane. You're serving your homeland AGAIN in Iraq! For freedom!
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That's because most women (in today's decaying moral structure) don't deserve it. Same goes for a lot of men out there.
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Hey team, did you know domentic violence is down 64%?
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But the video was so gender neutral.
cooltrip 9y ago
Can Obama explain to us all what do women contribute to society in order to be valued as much as men? sandwiches? blowjobs? acceding to more important offices just because of the feminist brainwash?
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That's OK I don't value Obama, despite the fact that he is essentially a woman himself.
WeAreAllSheep 9y ago
The glass ceiling still exists for women in most professional fields.
It also exists for minorities as well, but don't pretend that it doesn't exist for women.
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economists have proved that to be a myth
rpmale 9y ago
Lmao if it existed it wouldn't be a glass ceiling as the metaphor.
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FLFTW16 9y ago
So? Why do you care so much about what the people on this forum think?