I like how no one on this sub talks about how the most under reported rape victims are men and boys. Most child sex slaves and rape victims in the US are underage white males. Raped by other white males.

Interesting theory but I have to disagree with most of what you wrote. In reality, all of these things are explained due to PC culture becoming mainstream. As an aside, PC culture is just code word for feminism.

PC culture is growing into a religion. The religion of sameism. The foundational tenant of the religion, and that which all other beliefs emanate from, is that all people, regardless of race, sex, culture, or social status we are all exactly the same. Thus, any differences that we can observe between individuals must, by definition, be a product of discrimination or some other form of oppression.

Accordingly, we can't say the rapists are predominantly muslim because that would be racist. Because in "truth" we are all the same. We cannot say a particular culture is inferior to another for the same reason. Instead we must turn a blind eye to reality. Its important to realize that there is way you can convince a Sameist otherwise. Should they accept that there are real differences, their entire belief system would crumble. It is akin to convincing a Christian that there is no God. It won't happen.

Another aspect of the PC culture is the destruction of masculinity. Masculine traits (self-reliance, aggression, control of one's emotions, competitive, confidence, etc.) are increasingly carrying a negative connotation in society. We can see this most clearly with children born in the last three decades in that the school system openly punishes children who exhibit such traits. We also see it in our media. It pervades the entire society.

For that reason, the definition of rape is ever-expanding. Just as the definition of sexism and racism is ever-expanding. The PC culture demands it. In the Sameist view, any exercise of masculinity is unwanted and thus should be criminalized. When a college boy "pressures" a girl into sex he is exercising masculinity. Therefore it is inherently wrong and these sort of actions get lumped into groups like rape, sexual assault, etc.

tangentially related: The best way to handle these immigrants....

teach them how to use sniper rifles.

http://newobserveronline.com/sweden-state-funded-muslim-sniper-training/

There's a lot of reasons. They don't want to appear to be criticizing those marginalized brown people. But mostly if they talk about it it makes the petty bullshit they complain about look even more pathetic by contrast. It is also extremely easy to make fun of white/christian/straight males because they are overall pretty civilized and fear of retaliation is minimal. Criticizing people who may or may not be willing to commit terrorist attacks takes a lot more balls.

The media narrative that you either let them in or you are a racist is insane. No country should let people in unless they are sure that they will uphold the law and have respect for their new home. Angela Merkel allowing them to come in carte blanche shows that she cares more about the welfare of refugees than the German people.

Germany has become a cuck country, where they allow rapefugees (the majority of which are young men who should be fighting against ISIS in their besieged country) to go around and openly rape their women in the streets. The police have actively tried to cover it up and they also have little to no gun rights, which make the victims of harassment easy targets.

The lesson for America is simple. Stay armed, and be vigilant about who comes into your country. Only respectful, hardworking people should be accepted no matter where they come from.

TLDR: Essentially it does not fit into their narrative so it must be disregarded.

What I cannot fathom is how could those guys in Cologne even achieve an erection on NYE in that cold weather?

Fuck what a great thread. Thank you for bringing this up. It needs to be heard.

The moment SJWs acknowledge other men are capable of rape, they lose the war against the 'white patriarchal society'. They want to shut down white guys for good. The weirdest part is white women are the strongest advocates for this.

Typical divide and conquer strategy in use, gentlemen.

I convinced my exgf to purchase pepper spray by pinning her to a bed with her permission.

Up until that point she was all girl-power and convinced she could fight off a rapist.

Probably wasn't a smart move on my part but the next day she had pepper spray on her keychain.

Another reason is that shaming these muslim immigrants simply doesn't work. Only whites respond to shaming tactics. They only use what works ie shame other whites.

From my point, the immigrant crisis was started for various reasons, mainly:

• Lowering wages

There is a massive surplus of labour, thanks to automation, jobs are being replaced by machines, but the increase of available workers from firstly woman, and now immigrants, means that if you try and go for a job, if you don't like the pay, someone else will work the same job for less. And immigrant's home countries don't have such good pay, so will be willing to go for low paying jobs at lower pay than a normal person. This helps with preventing companies moving their production facilities to China or somewhere else for much cheaper labour and to stay in Europe. It's a way of countering the huge economic boom China is having (or had, its slowing down alot at this point.)

• Allowing government to increase surveillance

Social media has proven to be really good for organizing protests and other actions, (see Arab Spring.) So spying on there will help to silence/sabotage those who have differing opinions to the elite, so the leaders allow immigration openly and create scaremongering due to how easy it is for terrorists to come in to Europe and cause havoc. They then in the name of counter-terrorism start spying to 'protect us' from terrorists.

And to make sure people don't get fed up with the bullshit and take collective action, they use media, which has been used for years to push feminist rhetoric and pussify and bluepill men, gets used on the general public once again to feel bad about opposing immigration, and to welcome them with open arms, even though half of them are still following a ancient religion and are basically incompatible with western modern culture. People are also divided. With the feminist shit dividing the two genders, there is also the immigrant crisis dividing people. The general population can't work together because they disagree with each other on so many things. This is great for the political elite and the capitalists (CEOs, Bankers, etc.) They can do things and there will be no proper formidable action against them because everyone is squabbling about those immigrants, those misogynists pigs, etc. Divide and conquer tactics.

Our real enemies are the political elite and the capitalists. Not the immigrants, who came for a better opportunity (because their country is shit or because our elite have been waging war in their countries for oil) but don't realize they are being used.

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This is probably the most plausible explanation for what's going on that I have heard. That mixed with a healthy dose of the feminist mantra that any criticism is "invalidating". That means they don't want to call out the rotten apples among the mass of incoming immigrants because that somehow means that they are juding all immigrants/Muslims, et cetera.

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Hypocrisy exists across all political boundaries. You are encountering a group known as regressive liberals

The premise is this - any group who is not a part of those who largely make up the elite and powerful cannot be oppressors. In other words if you are oppressed it is now impossible for you to oppress others or at the least is the excuse for why your behavior should not be held to the same standard as those in power.

In the USA (and Europe) most financial and political positions are held by white men. Therefor most of the time anyone outside that group is oppressed 24/7 and is somehow magically exempt or given a pass for bad behavior

Mind you I see hypocrisy\double standards on the other side of the isle as well - this is just one of the stupidest ones out there at this time.

Extremely relevant article:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/01/the_lefts_endgame_hits_the_wall.html

I'd also really recommend watching Children of Men, prescient movie released in 2006 with Clive Owen.

I think the whole thing goes back to the core of the SJW/Feminist group of people.

We've become so afraid of "racism" as a people that we can only roll shit uphill

Therefore, Upper/Middle Class White Females, cannot come out against any group but Upper/Middle Class White Males.

This is why whenever the feminists get behind a cause, it looks asinine because there are about a million other things to worry about that are having a real, direct impact on women. However, they are limited in the causes they can champion. They must make sure the antagonists are Middle/Upper class white males, or else they would quickly become the exploiters they are so quick to accuse us of being.

So yeah, a bunch of Middle Eastern men going on a rape spree in Europe? That seems pretty relevant to the modern free woman's interests. However, Antagonist =/= White so they can't even approach the issue.

"There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"

I don't think the "rape culture" feminist meme has anything to do with broader politics; it is merely the conclusion of feminism's attempts to remove accountability from women and use the state as an instrument to wield power over men. This is why the deep link between feminism and marxism is so crucial to understand and why a rejection of government is so crucial to taking the red pill.

It really is disappointing how suppressed masculinity is in children today, and I have to admit I was a pussy when I started high school. Fortunately I realized pretty quick that violence was actually a pretty good answer. Shouldn't be a default, but nothing says "dont fuck with me" like decking a guy.

Another factor - victim solidarity.

"These people are victims and need our help" is a mindset that benefits all victims, and there is nothing a SJW needs more than sympathy for victims.

I think I've saved 5 off-shoots of this thread. Great post

I'm not saying rape doesn't happen, but instances are few and far between, committed mainly by guys fucked in the head of who, fortunately, there aren't many.

I would say most of the rape in this country is probably within the sex trade.

My buddies cousin(about 21 now) was stripping for a while and made some bad acquaintences. One day she was invited over a fellow strippers house where some dudes forced her into a room where for several weeks she was chained down(literally according to police) and pumped full of heroin while her body was put up for sale on backpage. An ex of hers found out about it and the cops saved her, but shes probably fucked for life over it.

The "rape culture" thing is vastly overstated by some and seems to exclude a lot of other fucked up rape situations which probably are larger problems.

TLDR: A look into why Women and SJW are trying to censor the Immigrant Rape Crisis.

This is not a TLDR, that's the title again.

Violence does not solve problems... Except for the problems it solves.

Torgue High Five Flexington

Watch this and feel your blood boil with the knowledge that this is happening while innocent men are being falsely accused. These people are cancer and nee to be treated as such.

https://youtu.be/-3MvinY66r0

The immigrants show that there's no rape culture at all in the western culture. Everything about the bad patriarcy and rape culture was just a lie and here it's openly shown to everyone.

Your thought out post reminds me of this feminist debate on rape culture, between Wendy McElroy and Jessica Valenti. Wendy speaks first if you want to watch all of it. Wendy's discussion is impeccably on point. Jessica's will probably have you smashing the screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBsk1WzEdCA

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Sargon recently posted a clip from The Young Turks where they start off talking about the Cologne attacks and then switch to how the West has the real "Rape Culture."

Bunch of morons

Clementine Ford brought up the point that white men only care about rape culture when minorities do it.

What we actually care about is dealing with reality. The events in Cologne was a real world example of rape culture.

Feminists use the term "rape culture" as a means of demonising men, it's a catch word that sounds bad however has become so over used that it has lost its meaning.

Conversely Clementine Ford's statement is blatantly hypocritical regardless of which side of the fence you stand on as feminists have failed to report and bring attention to the recent events of real rape culture occuring. The hypocrisy is in fact a form or racism as they are holding Western men to a higher standard than the Muslim migrants.

The recent events portrayal by the media, or lack thereof firmly suggests that the actual victims are western men. Last year's attention to "manspreading" as a form of oppression is laughable when comparing the actions of these Muslim migrants.

If feminists were worried about real patriarchy and rape culture they would only have to look on their door step. They aren't reasonable people who can prioritise the importance of issues. They are rather petty members of society who would rather ruin western men's lives because they didn't deem their queerness attractive in high school.

When you say the western world is rape free, do you actually mean white people don't commit rape? Muslim immigrants who live in the western world are still in the western world.

Saying what all of us here on TRP know too well. This message needs a platform to be spread amongst the masses.

The response from left-wing journalists/media and feminists in Germany is pretty interesting. Usually it's an attempt at whitewashing and deflecting and telling everyone how of course the majority of the Muslims are embarassed by this (which I actually believe - the problem is just that as a demographic they're far more likely to produce these sources of embarassment).

But some really take the cake. One (especially self-righteous and assholish) journalist wrote ad verbatim "a few groping foreigners and suddenly the thin veneer of civilization is disrupted" (commenting on the outraged reaction of the people).

Also interesting is the feminist reaction. One camp (represented by older veterans of the feminist movement) is pretty aware of the cultural component of the incident and also willing to comment on that without embellishing or whitewashing it. They're as retarded as feminists in most other matters, but I have to give it to them that they're at least consistent when it comes to combating misogyny instead of giving people of foreign descent a free pass.

The other camp... well. Let's just say it's headed by a hipocritical cunt who a few years ago spearheaded a twitter campaign named #aufschrei ("outcry") about everyday sexism in Germany, and by that they meant unsolicited clumsy compliments: the incident that kicked that campaign off was when a female journalist tried to interview an elderly high-profile politician at a bar while the latter was already tipsy; he hit on her and commented on her cleavage. However, while a stupid comment about tits from an old fart was enough to lament the perpetual triggering experiences and the objectification women were suffering from in present-day Germany for these protagonists of the 3rd wave; like a good little leftist they tried their best to deflect from the mass of actual sexual assaults that occured in Cologne, and said that this was nothing out of the ordinary and that during the Oktoberfest (where plenty of drunk people are hanging out) rapes were happening pretty much constantly, claiming that the dark figure was up to 200. A conservative newspaper called them out on that, pointed out (with quoting police sources) that there was no way in hell this could be true and aptly labeled that clumsy attempt at downplaying the incident "the mother of all Cologne relativations".

I just like to know what peoples positions on the whole thing is.

Should we be fighting to protect these women? Or should we let them wallow in the mire they have created?

Defending the leftist narrative is more important to them than ANYTHING ELSE. They've already demonstrated that they'll defend a pedophile if said pedophile agrees with them politically.

Europe is so cucked, the men are so blue pilled due to feminism that it is beyond pathetic. Just depressing. Merkel is an example as to why women should not be elected to office and people should be more active in over throwing incompetent and traitorous politicians.

Also (and at least equally relevant): the SJW's call anyone opposing (muslim)-immigration a racist - which is the worst slur possible. Apart from the fact that there is no muslim-race, as it is a religion - but it's not about logic or reason.... So, being very vocal and pro-immigration, they now can't oppose immigration, even when facts emerge it perhaps is not so smart and rosy to allow hordes of young men with different cultural norms in your streets... It would be ultimate justice if those SJW's were raped (though I figure even Muslims have some standards...) and not random women, but alas, as SJW's scream, whine and cry for years now: there is no justice!
They can't oppose those raping Muslim immigrants now, as Muslims are victims and inherently good -plus, it would make SJW's make look racist... hamstering: "It takes time adjusting after all the trauma and shock. Also, they lost or left their lovers, so young men feel lost and lonely. Plus, those white bitches were just provoking them, as they should have be cautious going out in public, knowing there are wild Muslims roaming the streets. We invited them, so we should respect their cultural beliefs. They are good people, it just takes time to adjust."

The "Muslim Immigrants" phrase grinds my ears. I live in a Muslim/secular country. When some girl gets raped here, it makes it to newspapers. It's not common. People would lynch rapists if it weren't for the police. Rapists get raped in jails. It's not about being muslim. Islam even forbids looking lustfully to women who are not your wife(s). Similar to Jesus' teaching about "gouging out your right eye". It's just that most of the immigrants are just daesh sympathising horny goat-fuckers. My country accepts shitloads of immigrants. Most can't do anything because they know if they were to rape someone's daughter/sister, they'll got killed, raped back, tortured, and I can easily say people who'd punish rapists would get away with it, 99%. Again, thank God for not living in a cuckland shithole. Ours is a conservative and tough shithole.

Edit: Also, good point about feminists and SJWs. If they were to acknowledge immigrant rape incidents, they'd need to accept that masculine men's protection is needed. That's why they shut up. Because they know if real men does not stand for them, they'll just got raped, goat gangbang style.

Women don't want to be told they are weak. Not after fighting so hard to prove they are not. So when an adversary arises that's really difficult to fight (Muslim Immigrants). Instead of saying, "OK we are too weak to fight this new enemy, help us", They'd rather hide the truth or risk losing what they've been fighting for for so long. They and all they SJWs that had been supporting them all along.

I don't think this is the reason at all. It is to fit the patriarchy narrative and the white men are the enemy. If feminists suddenly were to find out that 77,6% of rapes are commited by immigrants in Sweden then their narrative falls apart.

The question about costs of immigration has also been quieted down in Sweden, for the same reason as why the rapes have been quieted down. It is because if the information gets out it proves that the feminists and leftists do not live in a real world where white men ruin the society. If this would happen it would lead to more votes towards the rightwing parties and in particular Swedish Democrats who are anti-immigration.

One thing that can get lost in this picture is that there are a number of women who are much more submissive by nature. Confronted with a sexually aggressive larger male, they may just shut down and not say anything, or even say something consent-ish. I typically am twice the size of the women I date. Making them feel safe with me is incredibly important. With enough size difference it is easy to hurt someone accidentally if you're not careful. Emotionally, there will always be that size difference.

Sometimes the guy will have no idea anything was wrong, but that doesn't mean the woman will not feel extreme, devastating, emotional consequences. Those emotional consequences are the "rape" in their mind.

If part of TRP is accepting that women are the "oldest kid in the house", part of TRP is also acknowledging responsible men need to pay attention to and manage her emotional state.

That said, poor communication shouldn't ruin a Man's life. Women are loaded guns. Handle with care.

Damn this was a great read well done man

This is what I consider to be the best explanation for feminism's inability to oppose Islam:

http://judgybitch.com/2015/06/09/feminists-dont-challenge-radical-islam-because-real-misogynists-are-terrifying/

... And it's written by a woman. A very astute one at that.