Sooner or later, someone is going to walk up to you with a bucket, and somewhat breathlessly explain how you urgently need to stick your head in it.
It might have any number of different labels on it. “Jesus”, perhaps. Or “philosophy”. Or “psychotherapy”, “socialism”, “functional programming”, or “steroids”, or “veganism” or “nofap” or “The Red Pill”, or “LSD”, or “mysticism”.
They’ll explain how inside the bucket is a wonderful enlightening experience that will change your view of the universe… and having already stuck their own heads there, they certainly seem to believe it. But is that a slightly glazed look in their eyes?
If we look at this problem in a naive, simplified-math-game-theory way, it’s insoluble. Before you stick your head in the bucket, you don’t know what’s inside. And afterwards, if indeed you do, you don’t know if you have truly gained meaningful enlightenment, or simply been practiced upon.
But the world, fortunately for us, isn’t actually that simple. It’s full of other people...
Shaman6624 5y ago
Bucket = Ideology = possession. Being possessed is giving up your being to an idea, an abstraction. Being taken over by a thought is conceptually analogous to being taken over by a demon. Meditation seems to help in taking distance from your thoughts and observing them instead of being them.
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It is attractive for people to give themselves over to a network of ideas that explain everything in their lives. It gives them an answer to everything a certainty to build on. Sometimes it can be usefull. To be obsessed with an idea, letting it take you over and live for it to make it your own. But sometimes that human strength of being able to assimilate abstractions like that and make them their own can also be your downfall when you get snared by the wrong idea. That's why both skepticism and openness have their place.
rpjruh 5y ago
This is my advanced feminists theory class in a nutshell. You can tell who in the class takes it to heart and they look/act absolutely miserable. Most classes I dive right into the different perspectives hoping I’ll come out the other side a more rounded person. With this class I refuse to even attempt to get into that mindset. It’s a one sided groupthink mess.
Example:
We were talking about the expectations the media puts on woman. At some point someone brought up the fact that men are impacted by the same thing. Then this girl raised her hand and said.
“When it comes to woman the expectations are placed on woman. For men they place those expectations on themselves.”
We’ve had class discussions on attractiveness being an absolutely made up construct.
There’s just no way I’m going to dive right into that type of thinking or potentially absorbing the information in a rational way. It just wouldn’t be possible.
From what I noticed with diving into that thought process is you don’t take accountability for anything that happens to you and just become miserable as a result.
DrMrJrSr 5y ago
Here's a good follow-up question to that: HOW did men get to point where they had to place these expectations on themselves? Maybe outside influence? DUTY?
That's exactly what I don't like about those feminist courses, the collective comes to a conclusion, but dare not try to critically expand on that conclusion. It's like finding out the stove can burn your hand, but it's still the stoves fault.
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farendsofcontrast 5y ago
Stopped reading at “Jesus”. Which is how I know you’re a newbie who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Suggested reading for trp noobs from a legend in the community. All the pioneers of the red pill movement understand that OG Christianity is the true ultimate red pill, a beta version called “Churchianity” has been forced onto the masses. Emulate Jesus to be Charismatic and learn clean Amused Mastery.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/jesus-had-game/
redpillcad 5y ago
It may be helpful to explain the difference between a bucket and some useful tips given at a water cooler among men with shared interests.
Where does lifting or intermittent fasting or holding frame move from advice to bucket?
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Identity is the key.
You lose yourself when you sacrifice your own identity in favor of a bucket. The boy who comes here, reads a bit then starts spouting off red pill truisms as gospel with zero added value has given himself over to the TRP bucket. There is no human here, just another bucket NPC.
The man who comes here, executes the advice and takes a measured look at the theory and his experiences of practical applications of theory has reached into the bucket and added the best parts to himself. The self is improved without loss of fidelity.
I’ve converted a friend into a gym partner. My partner went all-in like I did so we share that passion. However I caution her always that we exercise to live, we don’t live to exercise. There’s a subtle distinction between striving hard to be well educated and obsession. Ultimately you must determine if you are in control or if your bucket mindcontrols you.
Be your own goofy goober
redpillcad 5y ago
Glad you checked in. I wanted to share a thought on a previous conversation we had as you spoke of revenge as it relates to plating an ex
*Live well. It is the greatest revenge.
—The Talmud*
MCA_T 5y ago
i stick my head where i want, phuck you man
[deleted] 5y ago
No no, don't throw me in the briar patch!
ratpoison987 5y ago
Sorry ...
Fill up that bag RIGHT NOW!
frankreyes 5y ago
They are the most bucket heads of all.
Aestheticcunt1996 5y ago
Hot bitch oiled up and fucked by stepfather
MrGreySD 5y ago
It's very true. One of the most common examples of this is the massive amount of "get rich quick" / "marketer" people that exist the internet.
As somebody who has built 5 real businesses with real work forces, it is obvious to see that these "internet guru" businesses don't add up. Some may do well, but they do so by tricking naive, hopeful consumers into paying for vague consulting services which are of little real value.
Paying somebody to make you rich is too easy. That isn't how it works.
red_philosopher 5y ago
This is a long and convoluted Caveat emptor.
But, by all means, please stick your head in my bucket.
RPSilverfox 5y ago
Just glad that after people putting buckets in front of me and telling me this was the way I found the red bucket on my own and it is not for sharing.
reyaan7 5y ago
Don’t follow a guide, don’t imitate any other person Be your own guide. Don’t allow your individuality, your subjectivity to be dominated, dictated and smothered by anybody else.
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_thechinaman_ 5y ago
Wouldn't taking your advice put my head in your bucket?
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fortegould 5y ago
Yeah, its a "double bind" problem. The only way out of it is to have a guide who imitates freely/willingly.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
You are right to question him.
Taking advice like that, expressed in absolute terms, is always wrong.
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
Beware of the man who weeps with realization, because he realizes nothing.
A man should always be seeking explanations, though not necessarily convenient ones.
A man can only be a man when he's sober. To be emotional instead of rational means that you're indulging in your emotions. That's indulging, which is contrary to sobriety.
Women and children indulge. Men must hold themselves accountable and be weary of indulging in fantasies. The beta trap.
shaggyctes88 5y ago
It took me years to realize, alcohol, Made me weak and weepy, Made me emotional and aggressive, luckily It's not an addiction for me....but I must remain ever vigilant.
KumonRoguing 5y ago
Whenever I drink heavily the cycle is angry, sad, horny as fuck, hungover. I've given up alcohol after realizing the waste it is. I'll have a beer or so at a social gathering but I'm not hammering shots like I once was.
bright-morningstar 5y ago
That's some real post that everyone needs to be aware of. When you try to take some water from those buckets, the promoter of the buckets tells you to take it all in. But don't be so fast. Take everything slow and open your eyes. I like my bucket Buddhism, but when the promoters of it get too close and start to over-promote, then I feel unbalanced.
reyaan7 5y ago
Buddhism's bucket is nice but empty because Buddha isn't alive anymore.
Great masters have a very difficult job. They want to teach you but at the same time, they don't want you to depend on them. There's Zen saying,' if you meet Buddha on the path, kill him immediately.'
vfb14 5y ago
Stick your head in as many buckets as you can, that is how you will develop perspective, learn to recognize idoctrination when you see it and use what works from each bucket to achieve your subjective goals. Life's too short to be living someone else's life.
onetruestory 5y ago
Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaFZQBb2srM
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MrGreySD 5y ago
What analogy would you use to describe people who rationalise a bucket-header's genuine success in order to feel better about themselves? E.g. "oh he only managed to become successful after doing this thing because of X/Y"?
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Nicolas0631 5y ago
Off shore banking and Bitcoin, really ?
[deleted] 5y ago
Ignoring the obvious irony that this comment is inherently disagreeing, one major benefit of the "men sharing notes" aspect of TRP is how often these men agree that being disagreeable increased their relative positions. So then we try being disagreeable ourselves, note the utility, and another shitlord is born.
Indeed. This is perhaps the most balanced thing you have ever said!
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red_philosopher 5y ago
This is probably one of the best replies I've seen from you in the last 6 months.
BurnoutRS 5y ago
I think I put my head into the GLO bucket a lot.
You write with a conviction that is infectious. There is a certainty that is conveyed through your writing in such a way that I find myself striving to be more like you. At least, the conceptual you, the facsimile that ive created in my head from the information Ive gathered reading your posts.
The metaphor of sticking your head in a bucket is likethe extension of the hat metaphor correct? A man may wear many hats in his life but when you pull the hat down so far the man cannot see, or the man wears the hat so long he forgets that it was something impermanant to begin with...
What I find most liberating these days is to remind myself where the control really lies. Im the one who put my head into the bucket, if I can find my way back and pull it out, have the wherewithal not to commit to any one bucket...
WarriorMonkMode 5y ago
Everything in moderation, including moderation itself.
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jizzledfreq 5y ago
I wanted to click the link... But then would I be sticking my head into the bucket? Yes. Link avoided. I'll let some other members dunk their heads in.
The link = The bucket
TEST. Aced!
max_peenor 5y ago
You could always check the bucket out first before making any decisions.
cupshadow 5y ago
What's the problem in peeking into the bucket if it's gonna cost just a few minutes? Because that's how I feel about TRP in general: you could all be just keyboard warriors but what do you have to lose by applying the knowledge anyway?
VickVaseline 5y ago
Wait. What? Did you just stick your head in OP's "don't stick your head in a bucket" bucket??
jizzledfreq 5y ago
Fuck!!! That I did... drowns self in OP's bucket
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red_philosopher 5y ago
Deep.
TheRedneckbeardPill 5y ago
If you're already in his frame there's a good chance you're already in his bucket
DeGENZerate 5y ago
It's your lunch hour and you are looking out of camp over the Eurasian steppe. Picking up the bow you carved as a teenager you draw an arrow and mount your horse.
As the thumping of your five man party rivets over the steppe you notice a flash of brown. All it takes is a whistle and the hunt begins.
Your father to your right taught you to lead from a young age using the teachings of your Asiatic tradition. You peel to the left with him and your party goes right. The boar squeel and disperse but there is nowhere for them to go.
Back at camp your wife greets you with your new son. Life is good. You cook boar with your tribe while they discuss ancestry and the principles you live by. You are planning an attack.
Tradition is one such bucket. Every race has them and your ancestors put their heads into these buckets over millenium. Then some philosiphers got together and decided to get everyone to throw their heads into new untested buckets. What better essential point of origin for your mission than traditional masculinity
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Uh, I’ll pass on the mongol/hun lifestyle. Not sticking my head in that bucket.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
You would have to pull your head out of your ass first and that isn't going to happen. Instead, my prescription for you is Viagra and wine to drink away the misery of the modern age
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I’m completely disenchanted with the modern situation brah. I’m just saying I wouldn’t then jump to that lifestyle. I think you’re just in a “grass is greener” fallacy.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
Who said tradition was a "lifestyle" this is the "strawman" fallacy.
PlantainNationalism 5y ago
Tradition is a lifestyle. It's a spiritual rejection of unnecessary stress that stems from the modern hyperconnected world. It's an idiology and a belief that has parallels in one's lifestyle.
DeGENZerate 5y ago
Tradition operates off of a completely different logos than the liberal individual freedom of "lifestyle". Osama does not simply choose to keep his wife in a hoodie because if shes not in a hoodie she is no longer his wife. Though like an American she probably gets stoned
PlantainNationalism 5y ago
We're disagreeing on semantics because the world "lifestyle" has been co-opted by advertising and Instagram culture.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I wasn’t rejecting all tradition. If you read my comment I rejected the mongol/hun shtick you were painting as idyllic.
boy_named_su 5y ago
I like my Red Pill bucket. I like my Stoicism bucket.
old_ex_commie 5y ago
"We have to put our heads in this bucket to find out what's in it." -- Nasty Nancy
SelfUnmadeMan 5y ago
Stick your head in ALL the buckets. Only swallow the good bits you find in each. The rest can be safely discarded.
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rus9384 5y ago
I stick my head in buckets even when people do not ask me to do that. I just stick my head there, take something from there into my bucket and when I find something better in yet another bucket, exchange for better. Replacing less effective solutions with more effective ones. But there never is a perfect bucket, just like there is no largest bucket.
OfficerWade 5y ago
This why some kids use to call me a bucket head with satellite ears. Not because I was abnormally shaped but because this kinda extremist isn’t loving and it isn’t kind. It’s always one or the other. Either you’re the rotten sinner who deserves to die or I forgive myself and it disappears, there’s two sides to the Game but most wont tell it.
Varsel 5y ago
Agreed there are a lot of hucksters around, always was, always will be. That said, if you wait for your God Science, or its priesthood (scientists) to properly investigate meditation, paranormal, or countless other fringe topics.....you will be long in the grave before your heroes deign do so. Think for yourself, get up off your lazy ass, do your own research and your own experiments. Discover for yourself what is, and is not, instead of depending on closeminded hypocrites to tell you what to believe, or disbelieve, when their opinions are based on unproven assumptions, rather than The Scientific Method they tout.
SmamelessMe 5y ago
For the record, functional programming was a game changer for me, and gave me new understanding leading to competitive edge in my field of expertise.
Also:
It's called income streams. The "guy" made a calculation that he can make more money off of people who will read his book, than the losses caused by introducing more competition in his own market, using his own process.
tl;dr: A neat reminder that ideologies are the opiates of masses. No ground-breaking work to be found here.
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RaYnDaWg1123 5y ago
I honestly have to say that some of the buckets I’ve stuck my head into are nice. The weed bucket. The TRP bucket. The subwoofer bucket. The STEM/engineering exposure bucket. There are some that I will never understand though, namely being the alcohol bucket, the religious bucket, and the liberal bucket. I think most TRP members are immune to the liberal bucket because they see just exactly how that bucket works and recognize it for what it is.
But it’s true that things won’t click with everyone. People on RP forget this simple fact of life - everyone was raised differently, in different settings, taught to view things differently. And their worldview is unshatterable, promoted by life experiences that back up their viewpoint. An example would be someone being raised to view illegal immigrants as people in need of help for whom we should drop everything to assist. They think they are doing the right thing. They were never exposed to the other viewpoint, that rules need to exist and that there need to be limitations. They don’t think that way. Part of the reason I sunk my head into the TRP bucket is because it recognizes a lot of things I had already figured out about women, the safety net of the state and Title IX, and opportunistic love. It all just depends on who you ask.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Last 3-5 years I’ve developed an actual burning hatred for the liberal bucket because I’ve seen all its tricks and all it’s pretensions and all it’s outcomes.