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Imperator_Red 5y ago
Bahaha. I drink her tears for breakfast.
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i_fucked_OPs_Mum 5y ago
Because most of these articles are written by losers who live with 5 other communists in a hovel and so do their female counterparts. Both loser group write about each other's failed relationship and then link the patreon for their 3rd grade podcast in hope of becoming the next Chapo Trap House. On top of that having to talk to people who've improved their lives and are in a better place than them would probably give them an ulcer.
pm_me_tangibles 5y ago
because the authors' worldview would fall apart and also they would have to figure out a whole new way to earn money - and worse - attention.
OSaraiva 5y ago
TIL a red pilled man shouts at a woman in fits of rage.
0io- 5y ago
Do you really think there is a guy in this story, or do you think the author watched a few youtube videos and decided to write an article about a "woman" (not her real name) and a "boyfriend" she imagines would be the type to watch these videos .
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beachbbqlover 5y ago
Yeah, seems antithetical to the entire message. A red pill man should actually calmly laugh at her and escort her, still whinging, towards the door where she suddenly realizes shes being kicked out.
yomo86 5y ago
One should not be so hard on him. The man is in the anger phase and tried talking to his gf about this new material. I bet my left nut that she was not as level headed as the article implies either
Wolveryn 5y ago
So he’s not red pilled at all. He for some reason thinks he is but he’s more lost than ever... which never happens, because the toolkit here is so rapidly helpful for self improvement
I couldn’t finish it... the drivel became overwhelming, this was the type of article you ironically get from a female incel cause she’s so undesirable in personality and physical health
SuperCrazy07 5y ago
I couldn’t finish it either. But, from what I read, the dude in the story didn’t consider himself red pill. He was just an angry guy who watched YouTube videos.
The author decided he was red pill because angry=red pill.
Wolveryn 5y ago
Oh so the reason he thinks he’s red pill is because the writer made it up?
What’s the writers motive for writing bullshit I wonder?
excaliboor 5y ago
"He" is a product of the author's imagination.
Why that imagination included shouting at women, ... y'all can make your own conclusions.
cc: /u/SuperCrazy07
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
^ This. That article reads like it’s a caricature of every red pill stereotype. Like a blue pill jack off fantasy of what the red pill is, starring the anti-Mary Sue.
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Wolveryn 5y ago
Bit of a white night, virtue signaller with a dash of suppressed incelibacy plus a hint of nice guy
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
The shithead who wrote the article doesn't know the difference between TRP and T_D or more likely is misrepresenting it on purpose. Everything the guy in the article was talking about was just racism that had nothing to do TRP. We are not white nationalists and I am constantly seeing black guys posting in here because feminism destroyed the black family unit before it's destroying the white family unit. Mel magazine is a rag.
i_fucked_OPs_Mum 5y ago
Anybody that doesn't toe their line about everything is a reincarnation of dead nazis. They can;t even differentiate between a 19 yo kid trying to make sense of dating world and someone like Mike Cernovich.
theunconquored 5y ago
Frankly, this article doesn’t matter to me. Some might complain that they’re trying to define TRP and box it in as a far right ideology. Of course they are. That’s what they do. It’s collectivism 101.
What I’ve always loved about RP is that this isn’t a collective. It’s a group of individuals. Everyone learning to be their best alongside each other. This isn’t some sort of morality or ideology. It’s just ideas. You can never kill ideas. You can only try to classify those who ascribe to them as a group and shame the group. But a true individual sees that sham for what it is.
Jesus H. Christ. DON’T TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB. All of these stories came from guys trying to red pill their women.
Work on yourself. Don’t try to turn your woman into a man who shares the same views. If you’re sending your woman red pill videos and asking her opinion on them, you’re a codependent faggot looking for her to validate you and make you feel okay for having thoughts. It’s needy and disgusting. I want to punch all of those assholes right in the smacker.
Guys, especially newer guys, learn from this article. Don’t do what they do.
Or on second thought, go for it. She’ll leave your needy, validation seeking ass and I’ll fuck her on the rebound.
Better today than yesterday.
Skyhawk_And_Skyhead 5y ago
Most newer guys will do this because they still think women are capable of thinking rationally. They think that telling them their point of view will bring their girl around to there side. But girls are emotional and solipsistic, the only thing that matters is what she feels right now.
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Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
TRP is not morality or ideology at all, and it is not ideas at all, it is application of observable reality into human social society. Basically its just a group of individuals who understand that animal instinct plays a large yet subliminal role in human social interaction, and denying the existence and/or influence of animal instinct in human beings is willfull ignorance. TRP is amoral and disregards the needs of the many, the few, the individual and the weak alike, it simply asserts reality, what you do with that information or whether or not you believe it is your perogative.
Actual reality cannot be negotiated with, and the entire stance of the liberal movement is to argue falsehoods into exiatence. This will never happen, men will always be men and women will always be women, and men will always be attracted to feminine women, and women will always be attracted to "toxically masculine" men.
TRP is prediction through observation of natural selection, think of a nature documentary with human beings as the subject instead of chimps.
tengo_una_pregunta 5y ago
The only thing separating humans from animals is hubris.
Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
Maybe. That and self awareness
Wolveryn 5y ago
I can imagine men are being demasculated by the shit we eat and drink and watch. We’re definitely becoming less manly with each gen
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party_dragon 5y ago
Rejections of all ideologies is an ideology? Wat?! (That's one possible definition of science, btw.)
rus9384 5y ago
Comparing an alpha with an Ubermensch. Please yourself as much as you want. Ubermensch never tells he is an Ubermensch.
But I agree red pill is Nietzschean.
PlantainNationalism 5y ago
The ideas are similar. A man that is more than a man. Believing that man can transcend himself is an ideology.
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Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
Speaking of 21C, I have witnessed the poorly executed intro trailer thing, I sat cringing through it. But there has been a lot of hate towards those guys as of late. Is it because of the trailer or because of the actual conference? I am under the impression that what is discussed during the meeting is legit.
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meowgoesdog 5y ago
While we do draw a lot of conclusions and while we do find many gold nuggets in "reality observations" a lot of lessons on here are still ideas regarding the reality among us, animals instincts do drive us, of course they do, we are animals, and instincts define behavior, but many situations we deal with are "not natural" or not easy to solve f you try to apply a 100% evolutionary perspective, sometimes we have to interpreter and rationalise for ourselves and form an idea/hypothesis
rus9384 5y ago
TRP still ignores many scientific things. Like human sperm competition occuring in the past. It is an ideology.
But what is feminine, btw? Certain body traits, like narrow waist, round butt, so on? Agreed.
Behavioral patterns like being shy, needy or so on? Disagreed.
I love women who are shameless, more confident and so on. Science tells us these traits are positively correlated with estrogen levels in women (and testosterone in men). How can someone call things caused by greater estrogen levels not feminine? These are things I like (and all men). From biological perspective having sex with more dominant woman means more dominant children.
Dunno if this position is pro-TRP, but it is hardly pro-blue pill.
Pyrrhus272 5y ago
Dominance isn’t an inherited trait, it’s learnt- children with overly dominant mothers usually end up with psychological problems.
rus9384 5y ago
Oh, seriously? How do you then explain that it is dependent on hormone levels?
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omicronpersii 5y ago
How on earth is redpill automatically far right? ????
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Because anything right of communism is defined as Nazi at this point...
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HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Anything that doesn't want to crown a brown person king and apologise for snuggies and casseroles is far right and far white.
trele_morele 5y ago
To the outsiders, the red pill may appear "anti-woman". Who are the ones always trying to put women in shackles to prevent them from fullfilling their potential? I say this with sarcasm obviously but the feminists would have you believe it's the evil conservatives.
jihocech 5y ago
Not being a victim makes you far-right.
German8835 5y ago
It is not right... but if you think outside of the box, you’ll realize that the red pill applies not only to women, but your whole life and society. The whole liberalization and Americanization is everywhere, it spreads across the whole world. And people sitting in US think that normal standards turkey and Russia live by is immoral and bad. I realized it just renectly, and in the country I live there are normal guys, and there are these nice guys who try to live by American standards. And for Amis, everything not liberal is far right and wrong.
Everything outside of the system is wrong according to them. Just watch the Gilette ad everyone is talking about. But people don’t realize that there is no perfect political movement, left or right. They are just someone’s agenda to push down your throat and make the world „a perfect and equal place“
bear2dbone 5y ago
I agree except the equality they want is everyone to be on the left. They use social media and mainstream news networks to brainwash the population into believing their way is the only way and if you have a different opinion you are an enemy of the world and deserve to die. If your a straight man in their society they already hate you.
yomo86 5y ago
Far right became the new metaphorical evil. Since left and far left is good, anything that contradicts a certain wanted world-view must thusly be far right
omicronpersii 5y ago
Hey I’m left enough and offended by your comment. Does being offended make me far right for the far left? ????
clavabot 5y ago
Feels fake, even if it is real, disregard and see Whispers 'Men are not Happy's post
warlordchad 5y ago
What they describe has nothing to do with the red pill. I have to say however, it feels like this sub is dominated by right wing ideology and Trump supporters, which I’ve always found odd.
I suspect that’s primarily because feminism is aligned with the left, so the reaction is to align on the other side, but otherwise there’s really no reason guys should see Republicans as supportive of male sexual strategy or rights. Seems to me they’re mostly a bunch of greedy, craven fucks who know how to manipulate racist voters.
Remember that at its core, TRP is about using reason, logic, science, and game theory to improve sexual strategy for men. No reason to get involved in the culture wars. The more we stick to that, the better.
clavabot 5y ago
Attached below is a comment that I was trying to post, after I converted it to 'Archive' links, my comment was removed again how would I go about fixing this?
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And /u/bsutansalt or /u/redpillschool revealed that the political leanings of the average TRP user, was to the right of center/Libertarian
Correct GLO warned against this: [Don't get Cucked by conservatives]. However We are a part of the culture war weather we want to be or not, and it comes down to the choice of to worse options we should pick a side that we can live with.
Vinterson 5y ago
Trp isnt the only place that uses the term. Right wingers are fond of calling anything that's not commonly accepted a red pill.
Race differences. Group interests in politics. Holocaust denial. And yes the sexual market place. This is just a small part of Internet communities calling things redpilled and the term actually was first used in the way we do now by a conservative blogger.
Everyone here actually seems to have a narrow perspective on this.
The guy in the article definitely sounds like he hasn't been here much in any case.
Wolveryn 5y ago
Wait people actually think voting makes any difference? Hillary or trump? Turd sandwich or a giant douche... at least trumps different than the norm
I would have voted for him if I was a yank
clavabot 5y ago
Re-replying As, AutoMod, removed previous post.
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And /u/bsutansalt or /u/redpillschool revealed that the political leanings of the average TRP user, was to the right of center/Libertarian
Correct GLO warned against this: Don't get Cucked by conservatives. However We are a part of the culture war weather we want to be or not, and it comes down to the choice of to worse options we should pick a side that we can live with.
jihocech 5y ago
Personal is political, sadly.
party_dragon 5y ago
It just feels right-wing because everything not extreme left is characterized as extreme right these days.
Not a feminist? Nazi! Oh you don't think that men are women? Nazi!! You oppose political correctness? Nazi!!! You think Kavanaugh is a piece of shit and completely disagree with his political views, but you also think that he should be treated as innocent until proven guilty? Nazi!!!! You read internet advice on how to become more attractive to women? Nazi!!!!!
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apathetic_rock 5y ago
Tbh this dude, red pilled or not, is an asshole.
jihocech 5y ago
Bouncer, bartender, not mathematician or physicist.
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>sending videos to girls to try and convince them
Lmao just be a strong, dominant man and over time women will bend to your views. Clearly these guys were fucking weak
Omnidempotent 5y ago
The guy sounds like an autistic NEET.
beginner_ 5y ago
Don't talk about fight club.
I friend of mine seems to have found the red pill or at least in general the manosphere. It's all he talks about now showing Jordan Peterson videos or from Patrice o'neal. Starting to alienate friends. Dude I agree with you but stop talking about it and nothing else.
Supposedly he also goes around commenting stuff on facebook and twitter using his real name. he is on a dangerous path.
No girlfriend so but that is the reason he is so pissed and angry.
jihocech 5y ago
Don't talk about fight club OVERTLY.
JustWanderful 5y ago
After reading the opening line of, "She was sitting inside a dark closet next to the bedroom" I was almost ready to say 'fuck it' and quit reading the article. But I continued a bit further.
Shortly after that I read, "Sara had met Craig while she was studying for her master's degree in psychology." I knew where the article was going and quit reading, since I knew the rest would be pussified drivel leading to: The Red Pill is bad.
Googling the author, I realized he's the same touchy-feely, navel-gazing dipshit who authored: 'What It’s Like to Be a Guy Who’s Petrified of Dogs'
WTF!?! This guy doesn't have a clue.
My takeaway: Don't discuss Red Pill with anyone. Let your actions speak for you and keep moving forward.
0io- 5y ago
Well, I made it past sitting in the dark closet to "Master of Psychology" and had to stop reading there too. I don't think I'm missing anything.
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chaseemall 5y ago
This guy was obviously discussing shit more related to Brexit/Migrant Crisis/etc. have you missed the last three years?
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1v1crown 5y ago
WOAH a woman complaining about her man??? I'm shocked.
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Summary: conservative wage-slave starts to watch right-wing videos on YouTube. He discusses political issues for the first time with his feminist girlfriend. This leads to their breakup, and now she has to find a new roommate or pay the full rent.
[deleted] 5y ago
Beating a dead cow. This theredpill forum is not right wing, nor conservative by default. It's a sexual strategy forum for men.
Now over in Turkey, England, wtf ever, there are social problems, but I'm on a different continent, can't give two shits less, and I like the information theredpill provides, and I like the results that adhesion to its core tenants gets for me. And no where in my conversations or experiences Do I feel obligated to pretend it is bipartisan or political. Shut that shit down, I don't need it.
rKKKselected 5y ago
If this subreddit is not political/right wing as you claim, why the hell was it quarantined? The red pill is a reactionary philosophy/ideology in the purest sense of the word. Just because you didnt theow the first punch doesnt mean you're not in a fight.
russian_nigger 5y ago
so.. they're chavs.. got it
King-Beowulf 5y ago
Hey i'm a chelsea fan. We're not all chavs.
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i_fucked_OPs_Mum 5y ago
Because people should be aware of what's out there. how maligning the movement is second nature to some people in media.
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funkyjunkymonkey 5y ago
The real message of this article is: Clearly we men can't think for ourselves. One look at a wicked website, and we'll easily discard everything we know for whatever claptrap philosophy it espouses.
King-Beowulf 5y ago
I wondered why she stuck around, until i read the part where she called him 'the attractive guy next door', and then i wasn't so surprised. Being attractive was enough to make this woman stick with an emotionally abusive simpleton. A lot of women will take this abuse as long as the guy is 'attractive.'
civilizedfrog 5y ago
But women are hypergamous. Where is the lie?
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sadomasochrist 5y ago
https://www.forums.red/p/TheRedPill/3/men_are_not_happy
jihocech 5y ago
"there isn’t a single reason why men would be attracted to Red Pill communities"
Of course. We are just manipulated by Russian hybrid war.
party_dragon 5y ago
Two immature boys had temper tantrums in relationships in front of their girlfriends. Two immature girls had temper tantrums in front of the whole world.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
It bothers me to see how men who are new to TRP end up giving this community a bad name or perverting the basic concepts that we discuss. More and more I believe it's necessary to put the new guys on a probation period whereby they must qualify or demonstrate proper understanding of concept's and knowledge. Especially now that there has been a huge influx of young guys, as you can see in the "askTRP" section. It's a total shitshow over there.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Well there's like 300,000 members, so not sure how that would work in practice. And yea askTRP is cancer. I try to avoid it now.