My wife is very passive when it comes to sex. As of late she rarely declines or makes excuses when I want to fuck her.
If it's three in the morning and I'm feeling horny, nine out of ten times I can pull off her panties and fuck her for my own pleasure and then head back to sleep.
So when I say she is passive, she just lies there with her legs open or bends over and doesn't move an inch. To be honest, I quite like the fact that she just gives up her body to me for my pleasure.
Would I like a more "active" participant, of course.
Here is the trouble. I haven't had a blow job in years. For her it's every excuse in the book. You need to shower first. And when I do it's, My mouth hurts to I'm not up to it tonight to Let me do something else to you to whatever else she thinks of.
Here is the shit test. Over the weekend I really wanted her mouth around me. Before bed I took a really good shower and made my way upstairs to our bed.
We start touching one another and I whispered in her ear that I wanted to feel her lips around me. She hesitated and said she couldn't because she had a piece of food stuck in her teeth from dinner and that it was bothering her. She continued to keep her hand on my dick and started to jerk me off. I repeated what I said and she stopped.
She looks at me and asks me if my past girlfriends would give me a lot of blowjobs. I told her that yes all of my past girlfriends not only gave me blowjobs but they also swallowed my cum daily because they knew how to please their men.
Wife is all pissed at this point. She then throws a second shit test my way. Tells me "what if I let you get blowjobs from other girls".
I said "Sure let's go on that premise. Imagine me coming home every night from work and you not knowing who was on their knees pleasing me that day and knowing that some little slut swallowed your husband's cum half an hour before dinner. Ya I'm up for that."
She threw off the bed sheets and I was ready for a shit storm.
Instead she climbed on top of me and rode me hard. She kept going for 10 minutes until she came. When she was done she rolled over on her back and asked for a hard fucking which I gave her.
She fell asleep right after.
I never did get that blowjob after all. Still trying to figure out what the fuck to do.
Ricky469 5y ago
I would never want to be married due to this type of stuff. I admit you handled it pretty well. Even when I have had LTRs the woman had to love giving BJs and swallowing. In your case I think you need to look elsewhere. I'm sure you can find a woman who will give you oral at whim. My bet is as soon as your wife finds out she will be desperate to "win" you back. The problem with marriage is if she gets a hissy fit she can divorce you and take half the house etc. If you have kids that's a whole other complication.
SuperLutin 5y ago
Is it a Chad sex tips report ?
um_brel_la 5y ago
I am a woman and I am genuinely confused...Did she give BJ's before you were married?? If not, why the hell did you marry her? Sex and intimacy are a very important part of the relationship. Why on earth was this not sorted out before marriage...Unless, she changed after marriage?
zboo1h 5y ago
Get blowjobs from other women. Also, stick it in her face and just make her do it.
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Do both.
olimpicus 5y ago
Go elsewhere and don't tell her lol
SKRedPill 5y ago
Are you sure she ain't sexually repressed or having some kind of past trauma or religious / parental conditioning to bluepill her into feeling very uncomfortable about sex?
suxxos 5y ago
Have you maybe considered a possibility that she doesn't like giving blowjobs?
peaceful_strong_man 5y ago
Get a second wife.
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former-bishop 5y ago
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That step comes after divorce and losing half/most/all your money.
regainingmy70percent 5y ago
But she's half the age of the ex. So it works out.
peaceful_strong_man 5y ago
That wouldn’t be a second wife. You’re in the monogamy mind frame.
ElXToro 5y ago
You're right. We can always become Muslim & turn all of the wives we need to Islam but only for this reason alone.
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Whisper 5y ago
Okay, /u/throwaway-iwantmysil, this doesn't often happen, but I'm going to have to strongly disagree with /u/redpillschool on this one.
Let's look at the facts, and the facts alone.
Does that sound like disinterest in sex to you?
Yes, she could do a better job at communicating her sexual desires, but you're adult here, so you need to be able to take the lead and figure shit out.
So wake the fuck up and dominate and cuck the poor woman already.
If you still don't believe me, here's how you can prove it to yourself. Next time you're using her and she's passively lying there, start talking about how you're going to go get blowjobs from Tinder sluts from now on... and just maybe you'll make her sit in the corner and watch.
Do you really think she'll react with anger? Or with arousal?
If you want her to give head, that's a more difficult task. She probably sees it as dominant because it's an act where the woman is more active. You need to reframe it so she sees it as a submissive act of serving you. Down on her knees, hair wrapped in your fist, move her head back and forth. Put a ring gag in her if it helps.
Ecctobiologist 5y ago
This guy's marriage seems to be in fucking shambles. Have you seen his post history?
tuteror 5y ago
I agree completely. The notion that OP just has to move on bc things are not great is a weak move IMO, if you're gonna marry, own up to it. His wife is wholely passive so don't expect an active sexual role. OP can use this to his advantage and dominate her sexuality. She wants to please.
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SHE'S A CUCK-QUEEN!!!!!!
She wants to watch you bone hot young chickadees!!!!!!
"Honey, it's time to talk about opening up our marriage...... this is Tracy...."
AllThatJack 5y ago
I also have to add here. Many great comments but the first one that struck me? She’s just not into head. Aka, I learned to spot em a long time ago. Any guy who’s had a woman that likes giving head vs a woman who’s doing her duty? Two completely separate women. Just as I’ve heard women bitch their man didn’t go down on them. Me? I can’t NOT. I see it and my mouth waters and I have to eat it.
Despite the picture porn paints not everyone is orally fixated.
Nothing is better than a woman who likes to blow you.
Even so, as you said, flip the script, test it.
silent_dominant 5y ago
If it's a dominance thing he could try with "if you won't suck my dick I'll just take it and fuck your throat" and see how she responds to that..
Another option is fucking her normally and finishing on her face/in her mouth
the99percent1 5y ago
It's easy to suggest cheat on her.
But there is a likelihood of her divorce raping you.
Don't ever get married. If you are married, you are fucked and should accept that your wife wont do shit for you. Either that or get a divorce. Those are your only options. No matter how much dread or self improvement you do, once the attraction is gone, it's gone.
hang_all_sjws 5y ago
Well said. I was thinking similar things myself.
1) As you stated, she's sexually passive, and sees BJs as active. So, instead of asking for a BJ, OP should just grab her head and shove his dick in her mouth, without 'asking for permission'. Women are strange creatures. It's entirely possible (though never certain) that part of her denial is an attempt to frustrate OP to the point where he loses his temper and 'violates her' forcefully. This may be what she ultimately craves after all.
2) The fact that she initiated sex and seemed to enjoy it for the first time in ages after OP talked about getting sex from other women provides a hint about where her sexual proclivities may lie. Either she is only attracted to him when she thinks other women may want to sleep with him, or else she wants to be cucked/abused etc., as you say.
DayGameChirality 5y ago
I did have that experience a few times with a gf, can confirm...
RedForEducation 5y ago
I do want to walk back my post a little now. I'm not convinced this is strictly about you being too passive for her in bed, but between the two ideas, you can easily test your shit to see what gets you more in bed.
I'm still leaning towards blowjobs as mate-retention strategies. She doesn't get off on them, so it has to be incentivized. Keeping you happy (and faithful) is the best incentive
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I think either could be correct. There's only one way to tell. He's gotta try it and report back.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I think that he could easily signal he's able to get other women, which is still essentially dread, so I don't think our approaches are all that different.
I would be curious to see if he could turn this into dominating sex and wake something up in her- if that's the case you're spot on.
I still get the gut feeling it's deeper than her desire to be dominated. But I can be wrong.
wildtimes3 5y ago
Separate the desire to be dominated from EVERYTHING else. Everything else can be true or false. For the next actionable step it doesn’t matter.
I agree with u/Whisper. Dominate x10. If BJ’s are the missing piece more submissive is the answer. A ring gag? Dude. Strong move. Maybe take a step or two before a ring gag lol.
If I were OP, I would skip one or two of my normal “put it in her while she’s sleeping” moves to make sure she is pent up little bit. Have a visualized plan to get her and himself to completion before the end of the encounter. Don’t force it if it’s his one reject out of 10. Come on to her lazy like, which she expects and ramp it up from there.
This could be a perfect time to tie a wrist or two. Planned well you could even make it look spontaneous. OP could have some random extension cord and a tie that he wore to work that day laying around. This would also be the time start to order her around. Tell her to lift her leg up and then hold it there, tell her to get on all fours on the floor so you get her from behind, any type of order is good for establishing a new dynamic.
Tying her wrists to her thighs is a good first step for a woman who’s never been tied up before. In this type of situation he might have to move fast, don’t wanna lose the moment. Also, It sounds like he will want to move her from the floor to the bed or vice versa. So I would tie both wrists together in front of her (practice ahead to be fast) and then tie that around one thigh. Try to leave enough slack so she can get up off her knees with minor assistance.
If some decent mouth action is achieved that should be a good association to make. Ropes, orders and BJ’s. Take it to the next level ASAP. If you don't follow orders, I'll get the ropes. Sometimes I'll get them anyway.
Maybe she would accept him slapping in a ring gag and telling her he is going to fuck her mouth tonight. Only /u/throwaway-iwantmysil knows.
Whisper 5y ago
I've seen shit like this before. (I have zero interest in chicks who aren't going to be my obedient little slave.)
It's a common problem with women who are both extremely submissive and somewhat modest or shy.
They urgently want to be dominated and "mistreated", but they don't want to say so, because then they don't get to be the "victim". So they drop hints, come up with plausibly deniable excuses for what they want, etc.
The blowjob thing is more uncharacteristic, but I've met women who saw it as being in control of the action, rather than an act of servitude.
In any case, there's no point in us discussing this to death, because the empirical test I suggested is readily available. OP can just try it and see what happens.
On a side note, if I'm right, OP has had some singular good fortune by stumbling into something it usually takes work to get. There are few things better than a girlfriend or wife with a fetish for being cucked.
sadomasochrist 5y ago
Or this is a warning sign she has BPD.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
RED ALERT
anothdae 5y ago
Eh, it also ruins the mood.
Losing control isn't real if you have to ask for it. If it's planned.
Women want real domination. Asking for it isn't real.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Indeed. This is why teach guys to treat all women with the expectation that they will be servile and obedient.
Not only do all women respond with obedience, but the ones who are eagerly searching for a man to submit to will show enthusiasm. They will express excitement at being able to let go of the reins and be dominated by you. Those are the ones you can be confidently and exploitative aggressive with in the bedroom right up front.
FereallyRed 5y ago
Every kink scene in every city I've been is full of these fake Doms that ACT all tough, but in about 1/4 of a second you know that their women are bratty and topping from the bottom.
The second they "cry" or twitch and they're letting up.
That's what reading your women and safewords are for. Poor girls have never reached subspace because their "doms" are pussies and don't control the environment.
Brats don't want to be brats, they're asking to be dominated.
And it's a shame they have to ask.
Whisper 5y ago
Indeed.
Any TRP advice is forever being met with "not all women are into that!" by the hecklers in the cheap seats. But, even if that were true... so what? You treat girls like the girls you are looking for would want to be treated.
The ones who nope the fuck out, fine. Just saves you some trouble.
SKRedPill 5y ago
All women say that Not all women are like that. No exceptions to the exception argument.
cuteshooter 5y ago
She sounds cool. Just go get the bj outside, what's the fucking big deal?
And guys, she came hard on the idea of hubby going out for a bj.
That's not dread, the wife is just looking to spice it up.
Sounds manageable to me.
bsutansalt 5y ago
That combined what what else you told us means this is not just a shit test. It's a loud and clear alarm that she's checked out and doesn't see you as a 'Chad'.
Cases like yours are salvageable in which case I recommend you hit the gym and read the Married Man Sex Life Primer by Athol Kay and start enacting what he calls the Male Action Plan.
If you took her up on her offer to let you get some outside the relationship right now she'd probably be relieved. Instead you want her to feel DREAD at the thought of you going outside the home for some action.
OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
Follow her advice and get BJs else where. If you dont want to cheat give the impression that you have options.
I had a friend who's wife basically stopped having sex with him. He got a job as a bartender and women would give him attention and all of a sudden his wife starting fucking him regularly.
imtheoneimmortal 5y ago
Dread game why not
flying_postman 5y ago
You should take a page from Rollo Tomassi's book (literally) and create some much needed "competition anxiety" for her in this relationship.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Dread game.
OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
Damn right.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I hear you. The problem is that I can get my rocks off any way possible from here with the exception of oral.
I guess your right. The impression of desire elsewhere will spur her inner hamster
IvyExcess 5y ago
Download tinder. Get matches. Flirt. Let her find your phone. Boom.
the99percent1 5y ago
She will throw the papers even faster
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
And she just starfishes. Do you want duty sex for the rest of your life?
rbillyvee 5y ago
“Duty Sex” TIL
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I know this sounds sick, but I like it a lot when she just lies there and let's me have my way with her. I get off on the fact that she is checked out while I fuck her.
But it's not all selfishness on my part. I will try to go down on her, she will say no she's not up for it (a very week shit test) but I just continue until she gets her high.
I try to look after her needs to, but the idea of a wife who just lies there for her husband drives me wild
redpect 5y ago
I do enjoy that kind of fucking too (The classic laying flat on her belly, opening her cheeks with her hands while you choke her and fuck her)
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But you say that you "ask" for it. I never do, just initiate and fuck.
You do the same or is there some kind of negotiation?
PM_ME_NUDES_PLEEZ 5y ago
Then if you are satisfied and she lets you fuck her whenever, I wouldn't keep making the blowjob thing a big deal.
Giant-__-Otter 5y ago
So, I am going to assume you are attractive and aren't unattractive. She is passive, you like blowjobs. That's a match made in heaven. Instruct her to lie on her back, head hanging out the bed/sofa/table. Then fuck her face like that. I like to do that especially with girls who aren't great at giving head.
Keep going with calling her out on her shit test, she appears to like it. That's rule 1 of SGM: female sexual pleasure is psychological. Read TFA's Creating Your Slut (again).
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
Thanks. Do you have a link to TFA?
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UncleWarwick 5y ago
I have a friend like this.
Didn’t want to suck his dick or let him lick her pussy. But he got “the fucks” whenever he wanted.
She initiated a divorce two years into their marriage.
BrosefJones85 5y ago
Sex is sex but oral is when people have fun. If she doesn’t want either then she is not into you.
cuteshooter 5y ago
Not everybody in the world likes the same thing.
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hang_all_sjws 5y ago
I just don't get this - why the fuck do people even get married if they're going to get divorced such a short time later? I mean, I can understand people living together for 10 years, and growing apart, and getting a divorce. OK, fine. But two fucking years?? What could possibly have changed in that time? Don't these people even get to know each other before marrying? I just find the whole scenario completely puzzling...
UncleWarwick 5y ago
Yeah.... that ones a long story. He fucks but is blue pulled unfortunately
VipKyle 5y ago
Two years is enough for alimony.
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
You supplicate her and settle for scraps, and are thankful for the opportunity.
And you wonder why she's not enthusiastic about pleasing you...
You can rationalize to yourself that you like your oral-free duty sex because that's all you get- but you're not fooling anybody here.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I don't understand what supplication is or how that affects things. Can you explain it? I'm not sure how to interpret your comment
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
She actively denies you, she's so turned off by you that she doesn't even want oral from you let alone to you.
And you call it a benefit because you like boring, duty sex with a woman who doesn't like you.
How far are you willing to rationalize to make up for the very strong signal she's sending you?
You're putting 100% more effort in than she is. And you don't see the problem with this.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
Wow ... I never looked at it like that. It was a punch to the gut that hurt badly. You are right on all accounts.
I never considered her lack of wanting oral more that a week shit test. I've been completely wrong this entire time
[deleted] 5y ago
Happens to the best of us. Get thee to the Iron Gym. Take what you want from life and settle for nothing less. Bitches love it. Don't be an idiot or unauthentic, though, you probably require some building.
You have seen the light. If you don't operationalize this, fuck you.
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throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I don't understand your last point on operationlizing this. Can you please explain?
FOREVERTRIP 5y ago
Is it just me or does this shit seem scripted and fake as fuck. Talk genuinely op not like some robot
BinaryResult 5y ago
His story is very similar to mine, I believe it.
p3n1x 5y ago
Unfortunately, this is not what is happening. You are identifying a rock for a fish.
And you make no sense, you said you "can't get off" then you claim you can get off.
You are full of shit or full of massive amounts of denial. You made yourself believe you like shitty passionless sex just so you can catch a nut. NOT HEALTHY.
Your head is fucked up with White Knight Husband BS and you manipulate yourself into believing that it "drives me wild".
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I never said I can't get off with her. If that's what you read, you either misread the post or my phone autocorrected the wrong word
p3n1x 5y ago
Misread this sentence.
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OrzhovPalatine 5y ago
Most likely but he'll have motivation now unless BJs arent that important to him
PM_Me_OK 5y ago
Doesnt chad get boring after awhile?
Iticip 5y ago
My problem with it is that not everyone's Chad is fully developed. Reading through this thread and all the comments to this point has been monumental for me so far.
jonpe87 5y ago
"what if I let you get blowjobs from other girls".
"...if I let you..."
"...if I let you..."
"...if I let you..."
"...if I let you..."
Is she your boss?
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Dude, she's already checked out. And not attracted to you.
It's time to initiate some dread. Get healthy, lift weights, approach others, and get your social life in high gear.
It's time to start moving on.
Shaman6624 5y ago
How do you get that idea, she literally let's him fuck her whenever he wants to and when he finally starts to be more vocal about his wishes and starts demanding some more (even though he could do that better) she reacts well and while she didn't give him the blowjob -she might have some weird hangup about them- she did do the active participation part.
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but whatever I guess what you're suggesting is what any man in every relationship ever should do so it's still the right advice.
new_alpha 5y ago
Yeap, she is not attracted to you anymore. No amount of rationalizing and negotiation will ever fix this.
Been there, suffered that
kleancut 5y ago
Not saying you’re wrong at all but curious.. I’m confused on how get she’s not attracted to him? Some girls just hate giving blow jobs????????♂️ I hate going down on my wife but I’m attracted to her.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Between excuses and her lack of enthusiasm elsewhere in the bedroom, that's my takeaway. /u/Whisper has a different opinion somewhere in this thread. Worth a read.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
This is what I thought. Thank you for confirming
1v1crown 5y ago
Dread dread dread. You already know the answer, you came here looking for sympathy or some half-assed response, but you won't get that here.
andreas-mgtow 5y ago
It's dead, Jim. No kids? then automatic divorce, plenty of women out there that suck dick.
Never give women power over you, next any bitch that gives you attittude at first infraction.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
It doesn't have to be a death sentence for your marriage, but it's time to act like it's already dead.
Best case scenario, she subliminally feels the dread and her attraction to you returns. Worst case scenario, you guys split ways but you're already well on your way to replacing her.
You need to have the life going on that your wife wonders what she's missing out on.
Lift, lift, lift.
SeizeTheGreens 5y ago
Worst case scenario, she’s already fucking other men and now he has an STD.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I mean worst case for starting dread.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
No. She doesn't get out much. She stays at home to watch the view and chats with her girlfriends by text all day. I've caught nothing from her to date and the moment I do get anything from her I'm not sticking around
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Oh god, The View? That shit is cancer for suburban chicks brains.
MikeTyson91 5y ago
Be wary, friend. Women can persuade their "friends" in god know what ways.
Chemlab187 5y ago
Well the fact you don't have any domestic expectations of her isn't helping. You are supposed to be captaining the ship. Start by setting small domestic expectations and slowly increasing them as she meets them. If she doesn't meet them then coach, withhold attention (lift), and repeat until compliant.
beardolfo 5y ago
What do you mean by "domestic expectations"?, could you please elaborate, share an examples?, thanks in advance!
innominating 5y ago
Plan healthy meals.
Cook amazing meals.
Keep the house clean.
Decorate.
Do the laundry and don’t fuck it up.
Put clothes away the way you want.
Make kids healthy lunches.
Etc.
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ghosts_of_me 5y ago
Your comment adds no value. Please stop wasting internet bits.
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throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I know she's at home because her browser history attests to what she's doing.
Thanks for your strong contribution to this post
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mrheh 5y ago
bear2dbone 5y ago
That was my first instinct.
Whisper 5y ago
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/asbiko/shit_test_wife_suggested_i_go_elsewhere_for/egtfowm/
excaliboor 5y ago
OP is fucking pathetic. Look at his post history.
n8dawwg 5y ago
On the contrary, i do not think it is possible for women to achieve orgasms from men that do not give them tingles....... that or she was thinking of someone else.
wildtimes3 5y ago
Completely disagree with this. For a woman who is naturally orgasmic, getting off can be very mechanical. They don’t need much in their head.
Chadster113 5y ago
This is what confuses me. Validation vs transactional sex. ECs say don’t be validation seeking. Don’t be worried about getting validation. On and on. She could literally be giving him blowjobs and his needs being met and it still be transactional. We’re supposed to be worried about validational sex but not at the same time?
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
You're overthinking it.
There's nothing wrong with wanting a healthy sex life. That healthy sex life includes a woman who wants to have sex with you.
If she doesn't, then you move on.
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Agreed wholeheartedly. I'm not much for MRP, but I've been in enough LTR's to know that if you own your shit, your woman can remain attracted to you.
1v1crown 5y ago
That's a great point. She should WANT to have sex with you. If she does, you'll know it. If she doesn't, you know it.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
Not "move on" but improve the situation, earn her desire back. Become a man that she wants and is enthusiastic about.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
Reminds me of the time my chick decided she was too good to swallow my cum anymore (Her friend talked her into it telling her how nasty it is and how she always spits it out). Anyway, the only thing that went through my mind was something along the lines of 'What is this bitch thinking and who does she think she is to refuse swallowing my cum'.
I wasn't going to capitulate, (When you give a bitch 1 finger she will take your entire fucking arm; once they know they can cuck you they will keep cucking you) so I basically doubled-down. Called her bluff. Said Ok, I'll find some other slut to swallow my cum. 15 minutes or so later my dick was in her asshole (we had never done anal before) O and yes I made sure she swallowed the last drop of my cum.
I just laugh at her whenever she tries to make demands because I hold all the leverage (and thus all power). I know that exactly nothing will happen when I ignore her little demands and do whatever I wanted to do anyway.
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
What's your SMV? What's hers? When you are 2 points higher than her, she'll suck your balls dry. The question is, when you are ahead, will you want her to?
Just focus on you and be awesome. And don't do duty sex. Let her know its unacceptable.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
This is the thing. She's 50lbs overweight so her SMV is low. (I like bigger girls though.. ones with roller derby thighs, lol). I'm a touch overweight but I am good looking and dress well. So overall if say yesmy SMV is much higher than hers but she thinks otherwise
gixxerthouguy 5y ago
She thinks otherwise. You said it. Keep improving until she thinks you are better. You are here because you are not happy. That's why we all come here. You are unhappy because you are not the best version of you. Just focus on you - eat better, dress better, take care of your shit. And jesus lift lift lift (and cardio, burn that fat off). I know what you're saying, you're into the curves. But there's curvy women that'll suck your dick, your balls, and stimulate your prostate at the same time if you want it. Go do you.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
See, that's the point. You don't get to decide your value. It's determined by others. That's what the corny-ass term "sexual market value" is used. The market determines your value. Just like the way you can price your house at 500k but if people are only willing to pay 250k, that's the market value.
You need to be hotter in her eyes.
I sympathize with you, though. I love thick girls and I feel like I should have an advantage over them all as I'm not fat in the slightest. But women aren't rational. They need to have reality kicking the front door in before they accept it.
Start working out and put yourself in a position, socially, where there are other women around that she finds threatening.
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heh welcome to 2019
p3n1x 5y ago
Perception is reality, if she thinks you are a 5, then that is what you are to her. You cannot negotiate attraction.
If you are higher, then prove it with other women (ie Dread Game). Her emotions are her truth, your logic or opinions mean nothing to her.
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RuleTheOne 5y ago
Wow that hit home
"And those guys will put in some effort, they will buy her things, they will say she is beautiful, they will pay for dates, and they will dress nicely.
There are an abundance of easily pickable cocks within email's reach for her, you have to work for it."
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This shit is so easy for women, wonder how we as men can turn the tables around? I get the lifting etc but how can we make women thirsty for us like men are for women?
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Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Any guy who admits he is slightly overweight is more than slightly overweight
mexipill 5y ago
I think that's part of the problem, very relaxed standards.
And delusion, lots of delusion.
SeamusAwl 5y ago
Who says its mediocre? I prefer the more curvy female form of a size 10-14 over the been pole of a size 0-4. I like to feel the meat of their ass in my hands and not her pelvic bone. And there are millions of guys who like what I like. His wife will be very well taken care of by us in bed.
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knuglets 5y ago
Shit, I prefer a size 18-20 over a size 0-4 any day.
But his wife is mediocre because of the way she is fucking him (and not blowing him), and generally not serving his desires to him on a silver platter. Doesn't have anything to do with the fact that she's curvy.
EkMard 5y ago
Once you start improving yourself further, and apply some dread, you can lead her to better dietary choices and reduce her extra fat, unless.. you like overweight.
anothdae 5y ago
Maybe she is right. Maybe you are. Either way, you said yourself you have room to improve.
KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
So you have convinced yourself that you like starfish sex and fat women. Fix your head.
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
Not OP, but overweight women is the only thing that makes my dick hard, so I understand his point of view I don't think he's coping
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I've liked thick women since being a teen. Skinny ass girls do nothing for me
KrustyKrabReject 5y ago
Have you also been a thick dude since you were a teen?
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
No, but I can see you have a thick skull
anothdae 5y ago
You also have convinced yourself that sex with someone that dosen't give a fuck about it is what you like.
Sex with someone that is unattracted to you.
Maybe you are starting to wake up.
Go find a thick (try for solid, not fat) girl that actually finds you attractive. That will ACTUALLY submit to you. Your wife is not. We see this when she dosen't give you a BJ.
She won the shit test. She didn't submit.
If you like submission... great. You are like every other male in the world, ever.
What you need to understand is that you aren't getting it. You are getting somewhere between indifference and disgust from your fat wife now.
RuleTheOne 5y ago
So much truth in this thread, eye opener. Sounds like getting attraction is one thing but maintaining it is another.
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hurtshtummy 5y ago
Believe it or not she literally might just not like giving blowjobs... some woman are not freaks in the sheets, which would explain why your sex with her is so boring. I literally can’t stand eating pussy, that doesn’t mean if I’m married and make excuses for not eating out my wife I’m “mentally checked out”... the real question is did she give you lots of head when you were dating? If so she may be losing attraction, if not she probably just doesn’t like sucking dick.
sadomasochrist 5y ago
I don't normally reply to MRP threads but there is a startling amount of hamstering in this post.
You start out playing up that she puts out, okay, great. Then point out it is starfish. Well, better than a DB. Then lead into that she hasn't blown you for YEARS.
Before anything happens, why don't sort yourself out here. Like write a letter to yourself of what you have and what you want and how you're going to get it.
You're lost.
And we can't help a traveler that doesn't know where they are or where they want to go.
EqualitysA2WayStreet 5y ago
It's easy. The post is fake.
1v1crown 5y ago
I tend to think that is the case when I read a lot of these posts... but there really are pathetic people like this out there...
furcryingoutloud 5y ago
Fake or not, it makes no difference. It is plausible enough for someone to go through. Actually, I would tend to believe it happens more often than not.
anothdae 5y ago
This is the thing. A fairy tale (or any fiction) is "fake", but it's moral is real. The lessons are real. It's believable because it talks about human behavior.
Maybe this post is fake. Maybe it's not. I don't care. I don't know this guy, I don't give a fuck about him. I don't care what he does.
What I care about is that it could be real. This could easily happen. What I care about is what people think about the situation and how to handle it. That is what is valuable for us here.
Iticip 5y ago
I am currently seeing this in the extreme
bowhunter6 5y ago
I don’t know dude, there are some real losers out there.
EqualitysA2WayStreet 5y ago
Look at the way he/she writes. "I told her I'd get my dick sucked somewhere else in gratuitous detail to my wife who is least bothered. She throws away the covers and twist! she fucks me like a pornstar. I'll end with slapstick humor."
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Why is everything fake? Sounds like a normal story to me.
EqualitysA2WayStreet 5y ago
and then suddenly,
Instead she climbed on top of me and rode me hard. She kept going for 10 minutes until she came. When she was done she rolled over on her back and asked for a hard fucking which I gave her.
porn star sex! Yay!
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eyewant 5y ago
Looks like she wants to be cucked. Good luck doing it. My gf has a cuck fetish, but doesn't want to do it irl, only imagining. So I have to suggest stuff like you do.
justtenofusinhere 5y ago
She is avoiding having any true intimacy with you.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
This would've been better suited as a question on ASKTRP. If you want a blowjob, and your woman isn't giving you that...well...you know to start looking elsewhere
civilizedfrog 5y ago
DREAD is your best friend who can solve your problems
Essexal 5y ago
For my own personal sanity, can you just clarify how the fuck you people get to the point of marrying these women AND then you discover they're either a fucking tranny or they don't do anal.
Is this not 4th date shit?
p3n1x 5y ago
If the guys coming here understood this .... they wouldn't be coming here. Knowledge shaming provides nothing.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
Most men are morons and don't mind sacrificing their own needs aka mr nice guy
wildtimes3 5y ago
Seriously. Upvotes. I have a buddy that likes big chicks. He likes them to sit on his face. Not my thing, but no judgment.
After a few months he was not able to talk one of his new plates into doing that, she was uncomfortable. He tried before and failed as well.
This is one of those things that you need to test and draw a hard line on, early. If you don’t let them know it’s a dealbreaker, it isn’t.
AsfridrRik 5y ago
Laughed so hard I choked on my vape.
That's early in the dating game conversation, agreed.
mrheh 5y ago
Social pressure to get married at a young age.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
Pray tell, what's the appeal for anal?
Where I'm from culturally only homosexuals or perverts were interested it, it seems like some straight men here like it.
Withmere 5y ago
Can't speak for everyone, but I'm a big anal guy myself. Sometimes the urge comes to fuck the girl in the ass, but it's not near every time. I need to know I have the option. That she's offering everything to me sexually, including her ass.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
Is this for an LTR or just a plate? Additionally, if an LTR revealed she had in the past, would it change your view of her?
I'm curious to see if we have a similar view here. Thanks for the honest feedback, I understand in a way your logic.
the99percent1 5y ago
Don't get married. In her mind, she already has what she wants. Why does she need to work extra hard? Blow jobs are for girlfriends, not wives.
Anyone who says it increases after marriage is outright lying.
SwoleyMoleyFrijoley 5y ago
She fucked you to shut you up. She doesn't think you're attractive enough to warrant blowjobs. If you don't have kids, divorce her before you do. Very little chance this will change unless you can out-SMV her by at least two points.
Redpilledaccordingly 5y ago
You have to get leverage back in the relationship; it's not helping that you're too needy either. Starting needing less, starting looking other places for your sexual needs if you have to.
mrheh 5y ago
According to the great Patrice Oneal this is the answer: Stop asking for blowjobs and sex. Instead all you want to do is eat her pussy all the time until she comes. As a woman she will not be able to handle this mentally because they are competitive. Stick to your guns after eating her pussy and making her cum tell her goodnight and go to bed or do whatever you need to do but DO NOT fuck her or get a hand job. Make sure you enjoy eating her pussy as well because she'll sense if you're doing it to be a prick. SO eat that pussy like its a nyc slice of pizza everyday and love doing it. She'll lose her mind and be suckin dick in a week or 2
Cfwydirk 5y ago
You kind of answered your question with your first sentence. Very passive. You don’t say she did before you were married and now she won’t. She asked if you past girlfriends gave head like she wanted to compare them to her before you were married. I hope you didn’t think she would change because you put a ring on her finger. I never had any use for passive ones that never took initiative to get you aroused or just lay there. Stick with red pill you will figure it out.
Nahniggaitaintme 5y ago
She is gone she feels like she doesn't have to put in work to continue the relationship and I feel like she doesn't really get please from it. You just struck her straight where it hurt that you would actually be a man and get something outside of her and provide for yourself proving that your worth something. I feel like she doesn't see you anymore and just lets you do what ever to get off. This is a pretty big red flag to me for cheating and maybe one for insecurity in her ability to please. But hey I don't really like blow jobs so I don't know what the fuss is about that.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
you don't just pull it out in the middle of the night just cuz you can satisfy an urge. This is a problem I see all too often and I have made the mistake as well. You take some red pills, then try to act on it without much thought. Don't come from the "I will take it because I deserve it" mindset, earn it first. I would do something thoughtful and unexpected after pulling that. Then go work on yourself and a hobby or activity.
excaliboor 5y ago
Might be because of psychological trauma.
You need to have a serious talk with her and find what's going on.
wissichnichtttt 5y ago
holy shit, if she won the lottery you wouldn't never see her again, she tolerates you holy shit start treatimg her like a human being, and go down on her maybe she will suck you off then? make her enjoy sex as well, holy shit dude..
Sir_Distic 5y ago
Think about this. You applied dread by using Agree and Amplify on her shit test. What did she do? She jumped your bones. You passed that shit test with flying colors. What are you complaining about? That you didn't get a bj?
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So next time agree and amply again but don't let her ride you or get that good fucking "Not until I get an enthusiastic blowjob from you." or "Worship me with your mouth" Something to let her know that you were in charge and that she was going to start giving you blowjobs. She got wet at the thought of you fucking the mouth of some pretty, young girl. Some girl you might eventually leave her for. The hamster kicked in and she got turned the fuck on.
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Do it again. But this time get what you want before she gets what she wants.
redaftrp 5y ago
Less talking more action...
trp_nofap_rewire2018 5y ago
I’m not an expert but you should experiment with dread game. Make yourself scarce. Diamonds are valuable because they’re very finite and rare. If you become a diamond she will be begging to suck your dick. Regardless of your age you still have a lot of potential because you’re man, so raise your SMV and have fun with the process. I guess that’s it
ryandiy 5y ago
Diamonds have a high price because a cartel restricts their supply. FTFY.
Rand2024 5y ago
Yeah diamonds are a horrible example, swap in any rare earth mineral
chazthundergut 5y ago
Don't wait for her permission.
Go get some blowjobs dude.
Your happiness is your responsibility
PM_ME_NUDES_PLEEZ 5y ago
i'd say if your getting sex when you want, to just let it go. If the sex stops, then I'd get angry.
kelembu 5y ago
Shit! I really have a hard time reading these stories, you need to get a divorce asap! If you´re own wife does not blow you, your marriage is dead already!
javiercer20 5y ago
The girl already said she’s not giving him blowjobs, verbally or not it’s time move on. Why you afraid of?? Guys come here to look for answers, if you’re not willing to be relentless with the pill don’t come here.
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He's afraid of divorce rape and not being in his children's lives.
OracleofFl 5y ago
I am intrigued by her response. Maybe she gets turned on by dirty talk of HER being cuckholded. Maybe you should play this up.
frooschnate 5y ago
Seeing this post and replies you’ve made, I wouldn’t bother helping out for real. For the same reason we don’t go out in public talking about this shit like a pentecostal church member.
You’re either doomed or this is someone taking the piss. How you mention things like shit tests and terminology we use here but fail to see the most obvious shit and act in such a weak way tells me it’s the latter.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
Well I am new to TRP so I admit I may not be using the terms correctly. I am also not familiar with Taking The Piss. What does that mean?
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LonelyetDeranged 5y ago
You don't respect your wife and she knows that. You care about your sexual gratification more than about her and she accepted this, that's why she let you fuck her even when she is not in the mood. If you really love her you wouldn't go to another girl for a blowjob. I believe she fucked you after she made that suggestion only to relieve you of the sexual tension or whatever it's called. Maybe she thought you are pleased now.
javiercer20 5y ago
Why would you get married to a woman who’s not willing to please you %100 in the first place?? You trying to fix something that was broken years ago.
Vikingcel 5y ago
Ask her for help with picking good pics for your tinder profile.
AriesAsF 5y ago
She's not attracted to you anymore. Enjoy the good parts of the relationship and go elsewhere to get your needs fulfilled, but don't be a dumbass and ever let her know, or get any hard proof because she will wipe the floor with you in divorce court if she can prove you cheated.
Casanova-Quinn 5y ago
Dude, the shower thing does not matter. You're failing a shit test right here. If she's giving you any excuse, fixing it isn't going to help, because her excuse isn't real. She's simply not attracted enough to give you a blowjob. And when you jump through these hoops to try to get one, she only loses more respect for you.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
Damn, I'd trade a blowie for an angry women riding me any day.
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But seriously, OP, she already gave you all the cues. Apply dread and make her fucking angry. Be an obnoxious asshole. Next time tell her that any highschooler could probably suck you off better than her. Honestly I would not even be surprised if she secretly wants you to MAKE her suck it. She seems to be into semi-rapey stuff, judging from what I can tell.
But seriously, I am not advocating full-on-rape. Inch your way towards it, test out the waters, you'll be surprised what she actually enjoys.
sharpwolfangs 5y ago
Watch Rian Stone's 21 convention speech. It covers exactly what you should do in your situation.
bcool87 5y ago
Consistent good BJs are a prerequisite for any extended-term relationship I'm in. Most girls I'm with not only are eager to please down there but swallow without a second thought. OP, did she give you head regularly before you put a ring on it? Another thing I'm noticing is that you're in her frame, but dishonest about it. For instance, you say "I had a really good shower," yet it's hard to tell if you did that for you or for her. Obviously, it's not about the showers and the fact that you're taking her seriously/literally means you have a ways to go.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
It's not unusual for me to shower at night. It helps me get to sleep and I feel fresh
In this case I took my shower much earlier than usual so we could have some fun
SeamusAwl 5y ago
Was that a contract you had? I workout from 9-11 most nights. So I shower because of that. Not because I am hoping for sex or a blow job. If i want a blowjob, i will tell my wife I want one. More often then not, i get one. If I don't, no big deal to me. Same thing goes for sex. If I want it, she will know. She can say no. But that is rare as well. Starfish duty sex is rare nowadays. You have to work on yourself and increase your SMV.
p3n1x 5y ago
Bullshit, you were cleaning your dick FOR HER so there would be no excuses. You still got shit on with "food in my teeth". FOOD IN MY TEETH!!! wake the fuck up!
FKaroundNfindOUT 5y ago
DOES NOBODY FUCKING FLOSS AROUND THIS MOTHA FUCKKA?
Shoregrey 5y ago
I'm your opposite, I HATE receiving oral. If its that big of a deal, find another woman.
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Varsel 5y ago
I'd say as long as you're getting plenty of sex, and it sounds like reasonably good sex, forget the BJs. You trade her in for a newer model, you may end up with neither. At least you got some non-passive sex.
javiercer20 5y ago
You’re fucked up at this point... if you wanna fix the situation( might be too late) cheat on her like a motherfucker and then dump her.
Wolveryn 5y ago
Verbally tell her you’re going to seek other women for getting what you need in the bedroom... cheating can have very genuinely serious consequences for the almost certain divorce on the horizon. Say nothing in writing unless it’s useful anyway
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
No no and no. You don't fucking verbally tell your wife you're going to look for other women to satisfy your sexual needs....
[deleted] 5y ago
Right, you let her hamster do the spinning.
Shaman6624 5y ago
I agree with whisper on this one. She's possibly got a cuck fetish. I want to add to this that you need to combine push and pull. With pull I mean you got to work on yourself like redpillschool says " Get healthy, lift weights, approach others, and get your social life in high gear. " That will pull her towards you. Then the push is when you try to tell her to do things outside of her current behaviour around you. Things that you want but she doesn't do yet. In pushing for change it's important to push untill she starts to verbally or mentally resist. Then back of for a while. Just stop. Then after letting it cool down go even further than before. This is also the way The nazi's got normal policemen to commit warcrimes. You slowly change the threshhold of what is considered normal.
ruga2 5y ago
Does she gets wet?
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She will not enjoy it as fast as you. It seems to me, from what you write, that you don't do enough foreplay for her to get horny.
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Anyways, at this point you probably already ruined it, and will be better to actually get a replacement. You can pick up a 20 year old.
handfulofnuts 5y ago
Divorce is a beautiful thing, friend.
It’s not a pretty pill to swallow, but you need to leave this bitch. It will hurt, but not as much as staying with her will hurt. Trust me.
The wonderful thing (and perhaps the painful thing) about divorce is that, 6 months later, you realize how good life can be. And you wonder why you didn’t leave her sorry ass years ago.
If you can’t divorce her now for whatever reason (beyond hamstering), CHEAT on her. Your happiness is the game here, not hers. Go out and have fun until you’re able to leave.
But better to do it now than to wait, if you can. From someone with experience waiting.
bonusfruit 5y ago
"My wife"... let me stop you right there
TunedtoPerfection 5y ago
You can try to dread her, but this is the major reason I woke up out of my haze my ex just stopped giving BJ's. Why because she though she couldn't lose me so why put that effort in.
It takes no effort to get fucked, she has checked out and does not want to pleasure you. She stopped being active after she got what so wanted as well.
So I was in your scenario and unfortunately the truth is:
It took getting walked in on during face fucking another chick for that to be on the table again, but at that point I was just so over the relationship I told her to fuck off.
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throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I don't think lack of blowjobs is worth blowing up a stable marriage with two boys. Again I get everything else I need sexually. To divorce over this is like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
You don't need to turn straight to divorce, but it is time to start DREAD.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
I'm inclined to think that dread is only right when there are children involved. Since there don't seem to be any children in the picture, why shouldn't he cut his losses and preemptively divorce her?
Marriage is a terrible choice for men. Women that get cold and/or bitchy before you give them kids is a great thing to happen. Gives you a peek into what life will be afterwards, giving you the chance to bail.
There is no reason to try to revitalize this marriage. Most probably won't happen, however alpha he employs. Actually, the "alpha"-type effort needed to turn this around would get him scores of other girls - willing to blow him like there was no tomorrow. Only reason to settle for his wife would be out of insecurity - but then she will leave him anyway.
Preemptive divorce - and keep her as a girlfriend, if she wants (she doesn't).
This is an easy one, imo.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I think he said he has 2 kids
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Yes, my bad, missed that. So, dread it is.
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As you can tell, it's not hard to tell the men from the boys around here. Talking divorce right now is silly, but listen to what the men here are saying. This is not "a-priori" theorizing, this is men sharing notes.
Might not be the most useful attitude. I mean...you threatened to have some other bitch give you a blowjob, and turned your wife on more than she has been in years, evidently. Proceed carefully, but at the same time, rock out with your cock out.
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throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I didn't threaten her but more so playing along with her trap she was laying. I said what I did to get into her head
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and it worked, that's my point. it might not have even been a trap. women want what other women want.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
I totally agree on being able to tell who the rookies on here are. They read the sidebar then think they can give advice.
"Next her bro" "Divorce her bro"
Smh
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
You're right I've written off all the juvenile replies from the 19 year olds.
This may be a contrary view to TRP, but I haven't found marriage to be all that bad.
We have a good family, good kids, good life. I just don't get blow jobs. It not worth going nuclear over
I posted this to get some insight into my situation. Replies like yours are very helpful. The kid replies.. laughable
QueenSlapFight 5y ago
I wasn't even going to respond to your weak thread, but here we are. I'm of the same age, give or take. I think your story is pathetic, and your marriage in any pleasant form is unsalvagable. I don't think you're redpill in the slightest, or interested in pursuing it. I think you're here to convince yourself you aren't pathetic.
Don't waste peoples time with your need for validation. I would literally put a bullet in my head if I was trapped in such a mess that is your life. I'm not 19. I make good money just like you. You don't have anything you can use to turn your nose up at me over so you can pat yourself on the back and tell yourself it's not so bad. GTFO with your stupid ass relationship and this dumb thread. If you can't be bothered with reading the side bar and enacting the bare minimum of its facets, why do you think you deserve advice from everyone here trying to help you out? Who are you to pass judgement when you have nothing to show for how you have a hold on your life?
Frankly, I'm with your wife on this one. You're a pathetic piece of shit, and all the "juvenile 19 year olds" you're blowing off have more shit figured out in their 19 years than you in your 40+. Pathetic.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
I thought I replied to you the aakmrp thread. Disregard my reply
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
You're right on every point with the exception of me looking for validation.
This post was meant more for me as an act of contrition and admittance of my own failures.
One can not change without admitting his faults. The reason why alcoholics go to groups and openly admit to being alcoholics are because verbalizing past pains and admitting them pubically are the only way to move forward.
My post obviously hit a pain point within yourself that you recognize otherwise your reply wouldn't have been so virulent. Were you me in the past?
Do juveniles have their shit more in order than me? Yes.
We all start somewhere and my journey begins now.
Whether or not you think I'll make it is as irrelevant as fuck. This is my battle to fight, not yours.
See you on the other side
QueenSlapFight 5y ago
No. I was not you in the past. You suck at armchair psychology. If you're going to "start your journey", STFU and do it. This isn't AA for betas, Jesus Christ.
Crixusgannicus 5y ago
" wife suggested I go elsewhere for blowjobs "
It's not just a shit test...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiy2uq\_n8jgAhVK1qwKHQL0DJYQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fknowyourmeme.com%2Fmemes%2Fits-a-trap&psig=AOvVaw3NZCOkV-co47WwTX7wfLpG&ust=1550681124639487
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Just in case the link isn't working, I'll spell it out.
IT'S A TRAP!
furcryingoutloud 5y ago
First, I may be wrong, but I believe this belongs in asktrp.
To give your wife some benefit of the doubt. Bring her to a doctor, get some blood tests and see if her estrogen is lost. Low estrogen may cause this type of behavior.
If her estrogen is normal. Dude, walk. Unless you don't mind living with someone who is not attracted to you in the least. Her riding you to orgasm is an insult to your manhood. Basically, it shows she can get off, but is not really interested in doing it unless you provide some serious tingles.
From my perspective, and assuming her estrogen is normal. You're the one with the problem. Stop beating that dead horse, it's dead dude. It's up to you if you want to live like that or make something else of your life. Oh, and quit telling yourself you're red pill, you're not.
omen_tenebris 5y ago
get a whore and get yourself a blowjob. She asked for it.
[deleted] 5y ago
I had a good laugh at the end, I thought this was meant to be a joke post. Turned out it was straight out of asktrp.
Dread game OP, like everyone is saying. Nothing like some good old competition anxiety to get you what you want, and more.
lbrownlbandit 5y ago
Shes looking for better options, distance yourself and start working on yourself. Fix your diet, lift, dress better; anything to improve your smv. She will shit test you, just keep doing you and eventually either she will cave or you'll find someone better. Good luck
[deleted] 5y ago
Highly doubtful. She tries to please him, giving up the pussy on demand. I think this was a solid post exactly because this is a salvageable situation.
lbrownlbandit 5y ago
Are you yelling me she wont jump on Chad's cock if she can the chance?
[deleted] 5y ago
I'm telling you exactly that. Incentives matter.
lbrownlbandit 5y ago
How? She gives her pussy up on demand. Duty sex is not the same as regular sex. He's lost her and would need to either find someone else or be good enough to make her uncomfortable enough of losing him. So hit the gym
[deleted] 5y ago
Obviously. The problem here, I think, is we're talking about a wife who has the OP's children. This is a dicey situation for him. But still....I don't think his wife is looking to swing.
DocPBJ007 5y ago
lmao you are MARRIED
guessmeyet 5y ago
Some women are turned on by thinking their man has sex with another woman. Not in reality but just the thought. I am one of them and know multiple women that are the same. Just try that conversation again maybe eventually it will happen for you.
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RedForEducation 5y ago
She said that because she knows you cannot.
Ignore the words, she called you out on your impotence. Get to a place where someone actually will try to blow you and you'll see her libido recover amazingly.
Medium is the message.
I'd give 'why women have sex' a read. You'll find that desireable hate fuck you just got was probably anything but
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
Impotence?
FKaroundNfindOUT 5y ago
im·po·tence
/ˈimpədəns,ˈimpətns/
noun
1.
inability to take effective action; helplessness.
BinaryResult 5y ago
She probably would be much more into receiving a bj from you (throatfucking, she is in a submissive position) than giving you a bj where she is in charge. I bet if you just took her by the nipples and pulled her to her knees, pulled out your dick and put it on her lips she would comply.
Origami84 5y ago
I have a less negative view of how it is going for you, bro. While this could be a case of "if there was a superchad asking, she would do it" it is also possible she is really frigid - quite common once reached a certain age, for women - so she choosed the less work-intensive way to still keep you satisfied. Her harsh refusal to give bj though IS a challenge, and while i suggest compromise, she can't simply refuse all the time. I am sure you do lots of stuff you dont like just to please her, so its payback time.
Wolveryn 5y ago
The natural desire to please him clearly doesn’t exist here, it’s likely that the duty sex will fade too
Trenned_out 5y ago
Start taking steps to protect your assets now. I'd consult a divorce attorney, maybe you don't yet want to totally sever ties but they can tell you how to plan ahead to mitigate damage if and when that time comes.
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On top of that I'd say start banging other women. You have absolutely no reason not too. Yes it probably hurts that she cares so little she is unaffected by it, but it is what it is. All you can do now is move forward.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
It may have been burried but we have 2 boys and an otherwise stable marriage. I just don't think its worth blowing up for no oral sex
Trenned_out 5y ago
I understand that. I'd just say it's indicative of much bigger problems under the surface with how she views you.
But check out the married red pill subforum and start implementing some of that stuff.
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
Thanks
bluefingerblue 5y ago
Did she used to give a lot of blow jobs before? Maybe she thinks she sucks at it, so she doesn’t like giving them.
Also, just try putting your cock in her mouth during foreplay. She’s lying on her back and you get on your knees and put your cock in her face.
Personally, I always find it kind of off putting when chicks ask me to eat them out. I usually won’t if they ask. Maybe she has a similar reaction when you ask.
[deleted] 5y ago
LMFAO
throwaway-iwantmysil 5y ago
Prior to marriage it was usually two minute blow jobs that was all teeth.
One time while dating, she was giving me a blow job in the car and I came in her mouth. She stopped and grabbed a napkin from the glove box and started to gag. At that moment I realized she had never had anyone cum in her mouth before
bluefingerblue 5y ago
Sounds like she just doesn’t like giving blowjobs. If they’re important to you, you might’ve made a mistake in who you married.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
This comment needs more credit.
RuleTheOne 5y ago
Lol this is hilarious. A mistake? Oh no
Metallurg2 5y ago
There are 2 types, those love to suck and those who don't like it at all, not much can be done about it
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
AND THEN YOU MARRIED HER?
BrosefJones85 5y ago
Top comment right here.
RuleTheOne 5y ago
Let's get this comment to the top guys. All teeth
SeasonedRP 5y ago
I'd take her up on it and not discuss it any further. She'll sense it when you do and the dread will go into effect. It's hard to say without more details, but reading the comments, it sounds like she is one of those women who has an aversion to doing it and isn't good at it anyway. The first time she did it may have been with you. Just do that with other girls and see what happens.
Wolveryn 5y ago
It’s all downhill from here. Soon there will be no sex to go with the no BJs.
Did she ever give enthusiastic BJs? How about before the marriage? You don’t wife a girl that doesn’t suck and swallow with pleasure:.. I mean you shouldn’t wife a girl period... but if you’re going to throw your life away to marriage; may as well at least know she sucks dick with smile and submissive eyes
ekkso 5y ago
"9 times out of 10 I can slip off her panties and fuck her for my own pleasure" ???? that's rape
alclarkey 5y ago
Rape requires lack of consent. Usage of the word "can" here implies consent.