The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
MichaelLifeLessons
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The_Red_Trooper 5y ago
Life lessons is a very good website. I'm enjoying reading his old articles
MichaelLifeLessons 5y ago
Thank you!
Monday's article I'll be interviewing Chris Voss (FBI Hostage Negotiator)
Redsqa 5y ago
I like Rollo, he's well articulated on women in general, but if he's been married for 23 years, why does he give dating advice? I understand you can know the theory very well but he has no first hand experience of Tinder for example (which I also don't use) or 'modern' dating. Pretty sure dating in 2019 is a bit different than in 1996.
8380atgmaildotcom 5y ago
The rational male is an important and influential book but agree that he doesn't currently have skin in the game.
olimpicus 5y ago
I bet he fucks outside the marriage
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Why don’t you look at his advice objectively and determine for yourself how accurate it is?
Apply this to everything you read. Don’t worry about the persons background.
Omnidempotent 5y ago
That's stupid. The knowledge of the author's background and life is important for establishing the context in which to interpret their work. If Rollo hasn't been dating, then his advice on dating is, at best, outdated. Would you take marksmanship advice from someone who hasn't held a gun in two decades?
Praeda18 5y ago
If that same marksman had fought in the trenches for two decades then absolutely. He may not have “skin in the game”, but he has been Married for two decades, this in a culture that glorifies hook ups & division between the sexes. By virtue of a successful marriage, the man has experience with bitch management and appears to be quite good at it, so naturally it would seem like a sound idea to listen to what he has to say about the qualities in women that make them worth keeping around. Is there something wrong with the context you’ve been given? What makes you think you know better?
LordMarkStark 5y ago
This. Keeping a woman and getting a new one are the same thing. It's indivisible. Logically we just like to categorise things. And many people on here are internally conflicted.
The system may be cynical and cold biology but it doesn't mean you can't have fun and fulfilment and move forward.
But I do think too much dwelling on that must take a toll on him in some way. They're separate aspects of life. On the flipside tolerance and understanding over cynicism is very important, to accept it and mitigate it, and go be happy and tolerant of it all. We don't hate the sun because of UV rays, it's just a thing. We don't know her outlook either. She could be fun loving and happy in general. She's probably tolerant herself.
At some point hypergamy becomes mitigated. It's not this constant dark cloud. People can indeed be happy living with each other and it does happen a lot.
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Minopo 5y ago
Good reading. I understand perfectly your point of view.
But one thing I never understood and couldn't never commit myself to anyone because off it. It's why I have to stick with a lower person than me. I'm not talking about looks, not even intellegence but about the perseption that wich other have from the other.
If I'm the leader of a relation how to deal with boredom, with a needy person.. how do I maintain my frame and not to loose my atraction to the other person? I think all "alphas", "leaders" somepoint in time asked this to themselfs.
On my personal case, all my relationships to this point, ended up when my atraction for the other person fade away. And I allways lost my motivation, because I saw me and had the perseption that the woman I was with was not my equal and has much more needs from the relation than me.
How to deal with this dilema and not continue searching around for a better suitable person. Because from my experience there isn't such a person. The problem and the dillema is with me.
It's very very hard to balance Alpha/Leadership/Red Pill awareness with the atraction for other person.
So my conclusion is not just women on average who wants someone "better". Some men, also want more, and more, and more.
p3n1x 5y ago
Family/culture and social pressure.
red_philosopher 5y ago
Since you seem genuinely seeking help, I'll bite for you.
You can't negotiate desire is a maxim that swings both ways. Women cannot negotiate your attraction, just as you cannot negotiate theirs. However, sometimes we are attracted to or unattracted to certain things because we have mental biases. You'll need to sit down and spend some time in self-reflection in order to understand your mental biases.
It seems like you want an equal partner, and when they aren't, you lose interest. This is remnant bluepilling. You are the prize. In a quid pro quo relationship, there's always going to be an imbalance of power. One person is always going to want more and the other less. It's a straight up fantasy to believe otherwise. Women will nearly always trade up, and in a relationship between equals, it's basically a foregone conclusion that she's going to branch swing.
If being in power bothers you, you need to find out why.
It could also be as simple as being afraid to care genuinely for someone, a form attachment anxiety. So you push them away when things get "serious".
You are right. You are believing in a fantasy. You know it is incorrect, and you are wrestling with what it means. There is no relationship that lasts between equals with men and women. FIGURE IT OUT
I disagree. They are not mutually inclusive or exclusive. This is an excuse you are using in order to rationalize your difficulty in accepting the truth
This is a false equivalency. Men aren't hypergynous in nature, we're polygynous in nature.
It also has nothing to do with your premise, which is that when you discover she has MORE needs than you do in a relationship, you lose attraction. You drew a conclusion unrelated to your original question.
Stop rationalizing and start seeing.
LordMarkStark 5y ago
That's interesting. Maybe he is just searching for answers that don't need questions in the first place. It could be someone doesn't like the burden of being needed more than they're willing to accept. It's responsibility. And it conflicts with the notion that when people give to you they're investing in you thus becoming closer. It's possible someone who likes intimacy at arm's length would feel like this.