BACKGROUND:
I’ve lurked on TRP for a few years now. I’m a freshman at a major University in the United States. The career I’m going into requires a 3.75 GPA or higher. As a result, I frequently utilize the tutoring services the school has to offer. Recently I had a HB9 tutoring me. This girl is a senior at the school; smart, nice rack, tight ass, petite, and blonde.
Typically in a tutoring environment - the student being tutored is in a beta position by default. It conveys a lack of knowledge and clearly displays that the student has more to gain than the tutor.
BODY
First, I saw my tutor. I looked her in the eyes, shook her hand, and I told her where I wanted to sit for tutoring right away. We started going over the material for my class and after five minutes it was clear I had already known all the content. The session was supposed to last an hour - and with fifty five minutes remaining I simply began inquiring with intent.
What does this mean? Every question you ask should have a purpose - particularly ice breakers. Answers to small talk must display high value and open up opportunities for you to tease and pass shit tests. By doing this, you become the engineer of the conversation. You ask questions knowing precisely where the dialogue will lead. This cultivates a dynamic where your responses implicitly qualify your SMV while her responses explicitly disqualify her SMV.
In other words: If the conversation were a chess game - you already know your strategy and are operating several moves ahead.
Example One:
I opened up on the HB9 by asking one of the simplest questions: “Where are you from” and this was the result.
Me: ”Where are you from?”
Her: Says some city in my state
Me w/ a smirk: “That’s so boring”
Her: “Hahah, I know I know.”*
we talk about some bullshit relating to her hometown for awhile
Her: “Where are you from?”
Me w/ a smirk: “Where do you think I’m from?”
Her: “California?”
Me laughing w/ a smirk: “Do I really look that basic to you?”
This then causes her to laugh and warm up to me. Thus launching us into a deeper dialogue.
•This card always works well for me because I lived internationally growing up. When a girl tells me where she’s from, I always say “That’s so boring!” and she immediately tries to qualify herself or inquires where I’m from. When I answer with “I’ve lived in five states and lived in China for five years and traveled throughout Singapore, Malaysia, Japan, and Thailand” it’s clear who the more interesting person is.
•As a result, where she has lived will almost always be less interesting than where I have lived. The simple question “Where are you from?” successfully allows me to integrate a few subtle teases: “that’s so boring” & “Where do I look like I’m from?” while simultaneously building a frame as the ‘adventurous guy’. Most importantly, it diverts the conversation from small talk and banter to questions surrounding my experience traveling the world.
It also helps set the tone when I can tell them I went to a British School and that I used to have an accent. I’ll typically start doing my accent as a joke and I can literally see their pupils get bigger (American bitches love foreign guys).
Example Two:
Another question I ask is “Do you work?” Here’s the example with the HB9:
Me: “Do you work other than tutoring?”
Her: “No I don’t. I used to do (insert old job) do you work?”
Me: “Ah yeah, I worked for Senator (prominent national senator)”
Her: “No way! I love X! How were you able to do that?”
Me: Talk about connections and BS but then I transition into saying: “yeah, but unfortunately I wasn’t able to rush the Fraternity I wanted - it takes up so much time.”
Her: “What house did you want to Rush?”
Me: Insert one of the top houses on the campus here
Her: “I could totally see it.”
Me: “why’s that”
Her: “you just seem like you have all your shit together in life. I’ve never met someone like you before.”
•Jackpot. HB9 admits she has never met someone like me before. After this she proceeded to tell me how she thought I looked and acted like a senior. I made her job seem insignificant relative to what I do - thus boosting my SMV and lowering hers without being an outright dick about it; it’s implied.
•I asked this question knowing I’ll be able to kill two birds with one stone. I’m able to imply I can be the ‘fun’ guy at a party (by mentioning the fraternity I plan on rushing in the following semester) and showing that the work I do is interesting. This also helps me transition into the next question.
Example Three:
Next I inquired: “What are you majoring in anyways?”
•I typically try to shift the dialogue onto them at this point and let them talk about what they want to do for awhile. After enough time, they’ll ask what I want to do. I explain how I’m majoring in Computer Science and Finance and plan to do Investment Banking on Wall Street for two years after college. This establishes high status: I’m at least moderately intelligent and will be making six figures right outside of college.
Important Note: It’s critical to realize that the entire dialogue wasn’t catered around me - instead these examples are simply bits and pieces were. Women typically run their mouthes for extended periods of time. You can’t make yourself seem too interesting all at once or it comes off as try hard and overly invested. Let the truth trickle.
Remember Law Four (48 Laws): “Always say less than necessary”.
CLOSING
This small talk often snow balls into stories. From here, we started talking about the party life on campus, what she wants to do with her life, childhood memories, and our goals. All while doing this, I made sure to tease, hold frame, maintain eye contact, and display confident body language.
Aside from the eye fucking, hair twirling, and general teasing - the IOIs became overwhelmingly obvious. It got to a point where I went to tie my shoe and she literally untied her shoe as well to tie it - thus mimicking my behavior. I knew I was in.
As the tutoring session came to a close, we walked out together (which typically doesn’t happen with tutors/students) she asked me what I do for fun and I mentioned how I do MMA and Jiu Jitsu. This is the conversation which ensues.
Her: “Have you been in any fights”
Me: “hah, plenty”
Her: “Was it over a girl?”
Me: “I never fight over girls”
At this point, we were walking out of the building and I stopped her since her backpack was unzipped and zipped it for her. I utilized basic kino here and asked where she lives on campus. She asked me where I lived and I told her I have a dorm to myself. She said, “So you’re a lone wolf kind of guy, huh?”. I said “You’re so intuitive” and she said “I’ve never seen a single dorm before.”
Me: “Come back and I’ll show you.”
Her: “Now?”
Me: “Yes”
I get some shit tests but take her back and fuck her brains out anyways.
Conclusion
I went from being tutored by a HB9 I met that same day who is three years older than me (a natural beta position) to fucking her that same night because I Inquired with Intent.
As Red Pilled men, we often do this naturally and unintentionally - but becoming self aware of this behavior can enable us to extrapolate greater value out of it.
Ask questions that will be asked of you. Make sure these questions increase your SMV by default AND decrease hers. If you’re an athlete, figure out how to convey that information. If you’re going to be a neurosurgeon, figure out how to convey that information. If you’re in the military, figure out how to convey that information. Convey what will up your SMV. Tailor this concept to what makes YOU interesting.
TLDR:
Your questions should have consistent intent behind them. It’s very easy for small talk to hit a dead end - that’s why questions should be asked with the purpose of teasing, pressure flipping, and subtlety conveying high status. Have a general gist of your responses to basic small talk that makes you interesting. Become self aware of IWI (Inquire with Intent) If you can do this while eye fucking (assuming your SMV is at least 6+) it’s game over.
Trenned_out 5y ago
Glad to see the comments already calling this BS out. HB 9 as a tutor.... Yea that's realistic.
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Also I have to laugh looking at the false bravado of a kid in the first few kids of college who assume their life plans are exactly how things will go.
mrrooftops 5y ago
An HB6 looks like an HB9 to a thirsty 4
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LetsSaveTheFirsWorld 5y ago
This conversation never happened
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Generic_ThrowAway_0 5y ago
It caught me off guard but it’s not really that unrealistic lol. The fraternity is known for having “adventurous guys”.
UnleashYourLife 5y ago
Nice fiction, but delivery could have been a bit better.
An older teacher who's willing to sleep with a student and risk her career? Check.
A younger male looking to score those HB9s and HB10s straight out of a pr0n flick? Check.
Everything going just a tad little bit to smoothly? Check.
Retarded beta game masked by Woke, Level 100 Alpha Boss Conversational Strategy? Check.
Thing is, it's not even the fiction that is the problem here. It's the beta game and the incomplete advice. What you forgot to mention is that to become a Woke Level 100 Alpha Boss Strategist, you require experience that stems from the chaotic element of rapport building. You must first fail, analyze, fail again, analyze again till you get the hang of it. You must learn the scenarios over and over till you are able to thrive in them, till you can tussle with the best those hoes have to offer. Learn to thrive in chaos before you start embracing order. That strategy crap can come later.
Game is the ability to seduce women, not to attract them. It's the ability induce emotional tingles as well as vaginal ones without having to flaunt status and money.
Generic_ThrowAway_0 5y ago
I’m not sure what the fuck I just read but it gave me a good chuckle.
I’ll first address the fact you think this is fiction because it went too “smooth”. I highlighted examples of utilizing IWI. I never said this went smoothly - in fact I was barraged with shit tests half the time. The purpose wasn’t to illustrate “shit tests” or my “game”. It’s to illustrate this specific strategy and how I integrated it and where it worked. It would be pointless to include the entire dialogue I had with this girl.
You’re making a plethora of assumptions about me and still missing the purpose of the post. I’d be more curious to hear your insight/critique of the strategy.
EntropyForeverx 5y ago
Getting all defensive like a beta
UnleashYourLife 5y ago
The problem with your game is that it's boring, unoriginal and autistic.
What happened in this scenario was not seduction, but rather attraction. You qualified yourself as a beta provider by flaunting your connections - ie working for a Senator (lol), by talking useless shit like goals, life, work etc. Not once did you steer the conversation into something fun and tingle inducing. Did she have fun with you or did she have okay time with you? There's a huge difference between these two. Fun is addictive.
If I were to place you in a situation where she did not owe you 45/60/90min of her time, where you didn't have time or opportunity to snow your monetary value, where you had to straight out seduce the girl without all that life, goals and "where do/did you work" crap, would you have succeeded in laying her? Be honest with yourself.
Generic_ThrowAway_0 5y ago
As you mentioned earlier - game must be flexible - it varies from circumstance to circumstance. In this case, the best method of landing the lay was attraction (as you define it). Traditional game (as you define it) would be outright autistic, weird, and creepy to implement during a tutoring session - to deny this is to be mentally handicapped. I use game at parties. I use game when cold approaching. I use game when talking to a typical sorority slut. There are times where attracting is better for ensuring a lay than raw game. It’s not black and white and you must be adaptable to your environment.
Additionally, to assume she didn’t have fun simply because I mentioned “Investment Banker” and “I work for a senator in my state” is laughable. It completely overlooks all the laughing, flirtatious behavior, and adventurous stories I told. Mentioning personal success does not equate to “Beta Provider”.
To answer your question at the end: No, I wouldn’t have fucked her because I wouldn’t have met up with her if I didn’t have a tutoring appointment. However, you could do this with literally any situation. “Would you have still smashed if she wasn’t at your frat house?” Or “would you still have gotten the lay if you weren’t at the bar?”. It’s a bit of a silly question, don’t you think?
In the end, if she didn’t have fun with me I wouldn’t have fucked her. I am fun because she perceives me as adventurous, a partier, and a man who has ambition - which is rare for an 18 year old kid.
UnleashYourLife 5y ago
There exist no 1 on 1 setting between a man and a woman where game cant be used.
What you did in this fiction fairy tale is that you qualified yourself with beta game. The nr. 1 rule of being high value is that you show, you do not tell.
If that situation would have been real - and it isn't, the main character has his monetary value or maybe looks to thank, not game.
There was nothing on Kino, nothing on compliance testing and finally no balls to be adventerous outside of cheap words. Words do not get women wet, it's the actions, hence my belief that if placed in another setting, the main fictional character would have failed.
You're not the only one who can steer a cheap conversation.
Generic_ThrowAway_0 5y ago
Again, the purpose of the post was not to cite the dialogue where shit test, compliance tests, were mentioned. Nor was it to prove my “game” or show how adventurous I am and how I used Kino. Despite that, basic things like shaking her hand and grabbing her waist then zipping up her back pack does classify as kino. I passed shit/compliance tests but did not mention it here because (again lol) that was not the purpose of the post. I showed adventure when I invited her back to my dorm and I definitely used kino when my dick was in her. Words and Actions get women wet.
I’m clearly not going to convince you - but it did happen. People can read the post and take it or leave it; at the end of the day you have to take everyone at their word regarding a FR. Cheers
UnleashYourLife 5y ago
I think you misunderstood something. FR stands for Field Report, not Fiction Report. Hope you dont commit same mistake next time you decide to create another throwaway acc.
-TheseHandsDontHaze- 5y ago
I mean I feel TRP guys have better things to do then write up a fake post on Reddit. I could see how this happens if you pass all shit-test and ask questions with intentions in order to receive specific responses to build frame. There are some posts that seem mythical compared to this with more upvotes. Maybe try it and see what happens as Red Pill Men we try different things on women all the time. That’s my .02 on this.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
Cool story, Bro.
However, this is an anecdote with a sample size of ONE. At TRP, we are interested in CONSISTENCY. So the question is: Can you pull any HB9 teacher girl with that "technique" (for lack of a better word)? And how much of your success was actually generated by that technique as opposed to chad-looks, her hormones, etc.
Maybe you ran into the occasional soft target? Maybe you are so stunningly beautiful that you could fart in her mouth and still get laid?
Without knowledge of your general lifestyle and your usual successrate, this story is not very useful - besides being fuel for the mental masturbation of the lower echelons of this board.
Generic_ThrowAway_0 5y ago
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. This is an anecdote which can be extrapolated to every situation I’ve had with a girl - I used this as an example because it’s one I’m proud of. Most men do precisely what I did here without even realizing it.
You ask a question that you know will enable you to tease them, display high SMV, and allow you to game accordingly - you just do it without realizing it. Being aware of this simply means you can implement it more efficiently.
thirstybitch13 5y ago
Why isn't it useful? Is he only allowed to post once he's done this to 500 girls? FR was solid. Not sure why you can't just take it as a data point and move on.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
Because if someone is willing to invest the time and energy into writing a FR, there should be some. Feedback to help him max out the effect of his writing.
Besides telling an awesome story, he is also clearly trying to teach a base principle at the same time. And a (useful) base principle is not simply validated by a single anecdote.
Mellow__Martian 5y ago
This is the biggest load of stinking shit I've read on this sub hahahahaha.
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-TheseHandsDontHaze- 5y ago
This is something fundamentally which goes hand and hand with shit-tests. I feel if you can master the two it allows for you to establish frame and blow past all shit-tests. Great post something TRP never addressed directly. Very subconscious behavior but being able to identify this is key.
TRP8myfeels 5y ago
Good to see you are working things out.
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Here's an attaboy.
krym33 5y ago
Its like, I do know that if you ask random chicks to fuck you will get one every 20 or 30...
But hell, for a 18'r you must be hella strong, handsome and the most motherfucking alpha male the exist in your campus...
Throwing your weight and trying to qualify in the job part just sound to me like a "hell no", that shit doesn't work that way...where is the tease, and zipping bags now count as a kino?
I mean...wut?
We are not pickupartists with those miraculous FR that happens everyday in their forums: "yeah today I was walking tru alpha mode and suddenly pussy started appearing from everywhere, and I got a 7some."
AxiomaticAcolyte 5y ago
Lurked here for awhile as well, made a TW account for this.
Is this talked about in any other detail on TRP? Thanks.
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Jack-Casper 5y ago
What were the shit tests she threw your way???
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