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archive.fo | 267 Comments | submitted 8 months ago by redpillschool [Post Locked]
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[-] cilantromakesmepuke 162 Points 8 months ago

Oh, I can't wait to see a bunch of thots pouring concrete slabs all day long, in dusty rubber boots and taking selfies with the shovel :#concreterlife :x :x:x

A, wait, not THOSE male jobs...

[-] Rakialtj 11 Points 8 months ago

Hahahah selfies with the shovel ! Loool Epic

[-] SKRedPill 1 Point 8 months ago

Feminists will complain about that too -- it will take the world to realize that some people are chronically negative.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 8 months ago

eh for big enough contractors there's one or two girls, never seen them do heavy lifting, but once met a girl who was an airplane mechanic and she said she did heavy lifting

[-] AsmellyFinger 136 Points 8 months ago

They’ll sue you for firing her for being a women.

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[-] AwakenedSovereign 129 Points 8 months ago

Your judgment of her performance is based on toxic patriarchal standards that fail to take her specialness into consideration and is a clear indication that you are an INCEL womynhater just trying to keep her down.

Recommendation from the bench is mandatory sterilization and reeducation

[-] adool777 28 Points 8 months ago

Reminds me of a girls story I recently saw. It was her ranting about getting fired and them not caring about her DISABILITY. What's her disability? depression/anxiety. She also called the boss sexist for not firing the dude that works there. Like maybe job performance matters.

[-] DeadliftRx 9 Points 8 months ago

So then I guess that leaves the option to kill her.

That's the lesson I'm learning, anyway.

[-] AwakenedSovereign 18 Points 8 months ago

Realtalk there are many ways to fire a person without firing them. That's how you get it done. You also don't shit where you eat and keep your nose 110% clean in your business.

And also maybe have cameras and never be alone with a female employee.

[-] good_guy_submitter 8 Points 8 months ago

Don't hire females. That's my policy. It works well. Of course I can't write that down officially.

Exceptions for 1099 contractors for short term work.

[-] Dokkobro 2 Points 8 months ago

top kek

[-] _Z- 22 Points 8 months ago

Nope. You fire her for being unable to perform the functions of the job.. and she still sues you for sex discrimination.

See Ellen Pao for an example.

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[-] _Z- 7 Points 8 months ago

You have a child's understanding of the costs of litigation.

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[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 8 months ago

Ok here is my suggestion. Start a charity that donates money to corporations to defend themselves against frivolous discrimination lawsuits. I suggest you provide the seed money for this charity by donating 1/2 of your net worth.

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[-] Imperator_Red 2 Points 8 months ago

You sound like a person who is pretty out of touch with reality.

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[-] OfficerWade 12 Points 8 months ago

Or stop doing business with them. I know a maid company who hires primarily women who clean office buildings. The owner says she has to fire people all the time who don’t do their job. She knows the dynamics and uses it to her advantage. Some women just want to watch the world burn....

[-] death-loves-time 7 Points 8 months ago

i dont get the fuss, if they want less male employees and more liabilities and less productivity i say let em!

[-] mrpthrowa 4 Points 8 months ago

The current narrative is to dump down workplaces so much so they can perform work...

We have swathes of females at work, half of them spend most of their time "fighting for female equality at work", the other half can't do shit without their colleagues help.

Ironically, the most productive females are the traditional head down and get it done family oriented females... I have a female subordinate who is so good and I'm trying hard to get her to put forward a promotion case, she doesn't want to, I could have her any day over a dozen of these other "female equality" useless cunts.

[-] throwlaca 2 Points 8 months ago

There always were those female that actually do work and are good. They never needed this new equality shit. They are actually discriminated against and usually are not even allowed to join the feminists meetings.

[-] throwlaca 3 Points 8 months ago

When they don't, fire her ass.

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No, they won't fire their asses. They are starting to fight against good-performing employees, actually demonizing the word 'meritocracy'. I kid you not.

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Business are doing to things:

1) crashing and burning over the loss of efficiency. They are taking their time, business are already very inefficient.

2) Building a 'pretend business' when they hire feminists, and the core, real business is untouched. Effectively they pay a feminist tax to survive.

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[-] TheSelfGoverned 1 Point 8 months ago

Busy work.

[-] Luckyluke23 3 Points 8 months ago

When they don't, fire her ass.

i carn't wait for this to happen and the bloomberg does an article about how much time and money was wasted.

[-] idontevenlift37 2 Points 8 months ago

One of two things will happen. Either the employer will see their awful performance and fire them, or they won’t and the business will suffer for it and become obsolete. I’ve seen so many articles lately where a company excludes hiring men and then a year later goes out of business.

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[-] Suraavreads 1 Point 8 months ago

Well, when those incompetent bitches are fired , they'll then file lawsuits for wrongful termination on account of her being a woman

[-] BetterBadIdeas 1 Point 8 months ago

And they gotta show up first. Cry as they might about women in tech go look at a crop of comp sci majors and tell me you can pull a 50/50 gender split team out of that hiring pool without sacrificing quality.

[-] redpillschool 285 Points 8 months ago

Rollo notes:

This is what a #genderwar looks like. We have now reached the stage where the Feminine Imperative is directly violating civil right unchallenged.

I believe we've gotten to the point socially where women's empowerment has conditioned them to believe they are entitled to be placed above the laws that should govern men by virtue of being female.

My opinion? Fight dirty. Time to start identifying as a woman and sue anybody who tells you that you're not or wants you to prove it.

[-] albino_red_head 86 Points 8 months ago

should we all apply to work at bumble and indicate our sexual orientation as women and file mass suite when we don't get interviewed? I'm bored, sounds like a fun time.

[-] 8380atgmaildotcom 26 Points 8 months ago

Just if anyone cares there's a few bumble higher ups who are still pretty hot but definitely hit the wall and are bumble users. So even they haven't locked anything down which should say something.

[-] besantos10 11 Points 8 months ago

They probably have a special algorithm for their accounts to get them the high smv guys.

[-] vandaalen 44 Points 8 months ago

My opinion: stop trying to make life as a drone in the treadmill work and start your own business.

[-] BlindingTwilight 25 Points 8 months ago

I agree with you but self employment is not for everyone. Most will fail, historically around 85% of start ups fail within 2 years. The majority of people lack the talent, discipline and drive to make it on their own.

[-] Omnidempotent -16 Point 8 months ago

The majority of people lack the talent, discipline and drive to make it on their own.

Those people are losers who are going to suffer anyway. Besides, it is not a solution for everyone. It is a solution for you.

[-] BlindingTwilight 18 Points 8 months ago

I don’t think employees or people who are not self employed are losers, there will always be leaders and followers, extroverts and introverts. Some of the best workers are not ambitious, they just want to do their work and go home.

[-] vandaalen 1 Point 8 months ago

Failure is part of success.

[-] AwakenedSovereign 19 Points 8 months ago

Or work 5 hours a week in someone else's treadmill remotely. And then start your own business.

[-] majaka1234 3 Points 8 months ago

Only after you've automated (or paid someone to automate) the 40 hour remote gig to 5 hours.

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[-] redpillschool 8 Points 8 months ago

I mean, obviously a better idea. But still...

[-] the-dan-man 7 Points 8 months ago

Starting a business is no walk in the park. Although i would love to do that in the future. What business type?

[-] vandaalen 3 Points 8 months ago

Opening up a business is as easy as cake.

You need to figure out what type of business yourself. What do you love to do? What do you have a passion for?

Nothing else counts.

[-] Nicolas0631 3 Points 8 months ago

Then why do statistics show us that most business fail in the first years of that so easy ?

[-] good_guy_submitter 4 Points 8 months ago

Pareto rules the day

[-] Planner_Hammish 2 Points 8 months ago

Usually people will jump into something with no business plan, and run on borrowed money. Once that loan dries up they fail.

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[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 8 months ago

Agree, ultimately by definition great successful businesses are great successful businesses.

As for taking risks with other people money, I say it is far smarter than with your own. Better to have the small company go bankrupt that to have to sell your house. If you are to be successful, you apply leverage and can grow much faster too.

I don't say don't make a business, I know many people that work for themselve and are successful. Theses people are often quite driven and smart and their business make sence.

But it doesn't mean that any random business will.

The thing is you can make your best and fail. You have to recognize that, assess the risks and choose accordingly.

It is as stupid to be too risky as to be too shy.

[-] halfback910 1 Point 8 months ago

The thing is, growing is harder than that. When I had my own business, "Growing" meant just landing another client. I would have the salesman (me) go out and get the clients, give them to my secretary (me), at which point the consulting team (also me) would service their accounts.

Short of borrowing money or saving for an absurd amount of time I'd never have built up enough to manage to hire overhead (like administration) and I'd only have a few months to get business to justify it before I ran out of the borrowed/saved money.

I wound up going back to being an employee simply because I made more money working for someone else than owning my own business. Is it nice to know that I can fall back on what I did before? Of course. And when I left the industry I got some nice referral fees for making sure my clients were taken care of by other consulting agencies. That was nice.

But it was a lot of stress. That's a cost, in addition to risk, that needs to be accounted for. Heavy lies the head that wears the crown.

[-] EdmondDantes777 1 Point 8 months ago

Because most people are losers with no drive. Don't be like most people and you have a chance to succeed. Don't try at all and you will always fail.

[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 8 months ago

Could be that, but believing your are the little snowflake that isn't like other and you can only succeed isn't sufficiant to actually succeed.

If you assume that 90% of people fail with their business is because they are looser, remember that if you remove the 90% of looser, non looser as employees make:

- at least 90K$ a year.

- half make more than 130K$ a year.

- 10% make more than 250K$ a year.

This isn't that bad neither as they basically almost all make 6 figure salary.

[-] vandaalen 0 Points 8 months ago

Are you dense?

[-] Nicolas0631 3 Points 8 months ago

Where I live there is a 90% failure rate in the first 3 years. The average earning is comparable to employees and the number of hours worked is much higher. On top there no job security.

On average, having your own business sucks. I agree that it can be great but this isn't the panacea. Don't try to sell it to us like it your religion or like blue pill idealize the mariage.

[-] vandaalen 1 Point 8 months ago

LOL. Top 20%. Remember? Stop putting limitations on other people just because you are a scared lottle bitch.

[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 8 months ago

Being realistic only increase your chances. Assuming you are de facto top 20% is good assumption only if that's reality.

My current salary put me in the top 5% in my country and I am about to get promoted, thanks for caring. I also plan to continue to improve, of course.

It doesn't really matter how you make it but being aware of the reality and where you are is also important. You assume all reader here are top 20% or top 10% at everything and so they can only success however how hard the goal. Like everybody could be olympic champion even if they start late. I say that a big assumption.

[-] vandaalen 1 Point 8 months ago

boring

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[-] askmrcia 1 Point 8 months ago

Open up your own staffing agency. I know there's a million of them but they are pretty easy to start and there's a reason why you see a million of them. Just get people hired, take a percentage of their cut. Do this for many people, boom profit.

Start a youtube channel.

[-] halfback910 1 Point 8 months ago

I owned my own business doing consulting. I did well, but I make way more money being a lackey and it's way less stress (I don't have to suck a client's dick because if I lose them it's food off my table).

[-] vandaalen 1 Point 8 months ago

(I don't have to suck a client's dick because if I lose them it's food off my table)

Great mindset! /s

[-] halfback910 1 Point 8 months ago

What do you mean? That's just reality lmao. When I had my own consulting gig I had to take a red-eye multiple times to calm down a client having a Dunning-Kruger moment. If I hadn't and they pulled the business, there goes half my net.

The issue with consulting is clients don't hire you if they're super smart and good at what they do. They hire you if there's a deficiency that they are smart enough to realize but not smart enough to correct.

So you generally wind up dealing with dumbasses.

[-] warlordchad 14 Points 8 months ago

Men have enabled this by using dating apps to meet women. If you want to help, get off the apps and learn cold approach pick-up.

[-] Standgrounding 3 Points 8 months ago

Or even better, the "accidental bump" in parties

[-] urbancore 0 Points 8 months ago

Please expound.

[-] Standgrounding 2 Points 8 months ago

If thats not obvious enough, its an excuse to start a dance. Works hella well.

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[-] idontevenlift37 3 Points 8 months ago

Them guys that are identifying as woman and dominating woman’s events in track meets are ahead of the game.

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[-] Adam1394 3 Points 8 months ago

IT'S MA'AM

[-] goodboy1112111 3 Points 8 months ago

No thanks. Part of being a man is having pride. My pride won't let me do that. There is still plenty of opportunity in this world for a man that acts like a man and not a little simp bitch.

[-] largepaycheckaddict 1 Point 8 months ago

Why not just give them a taste of their own medicine and develop a men only version of the same thing?

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[-] thirstybitch13 -2 Point 8 months ago

Ok, invite me to your coming out party so I can be the first to finger you under your pretty little skirt.

[-] FrancoGamerxz 147 Points 8 months ago

Because nothing says inclusivity, diversity and equality like excluding 50% of the world's population!

[-] TheSelfGoverned 5 Points 8 months ago

Oh, you bought into all of that crap? Your first clue should have been that it was coming out of a woman's mouth.

[-] BetterBadIdeas 1 Point 8 months ago

And nothing says "industry facing business tool" like a fucking hook-up app.

[-] atticusfinch1973 141 Points 8 months ago

Basically any male dominated industry would hopefully laugh and just simply not use the service. These guys need customers to use their service.

Only companies that are women focused already would adhere to the obvious double standard this creates.

The only reason Bumble is successful is because of thirsty horny guys. And the guys know more girls use it because they feel "safe". Take the Male element away and it's useless.

[-] NohoTwoPointOh 37 Points 8 months ago

Until they start mandating that you do business with them. Sounds far out and alien until we consider that the People's Republik of California is mandating women on boards...

[-] Imperator_Red 11 Points 8 months ago

People can never seem to wrap their heads around this. The left shifts the overton window.

That's what they do. First they introduce a ridiculous idea in a far left setting like university or a radical leftwing media site. Most of their radical base supports it, a few left of center support it, the rest of the nation laughs or doesn't even notice. To most it doesn't seem worth it to go on the attack.

Once they've pounded the idea into their radical base for a few years it becomes party orthodoxy and it is introduced into the body politic. Now they start testing the idea out in mainstream waters. Most people are still laughing, but many are not since it the idea is presented by what they consider to be a reasonable authority figure. Also, it's not polite to laugh at or shame other people's ideas, right?

The left gauges average people's reactions. If there is a lot of resistance they pull back for a bit and then try again later. If not they ratchet up the pressure. They repeat the idea again and again in the mainstream media and culture. People are bombarded from all sides. Media. Hollywood. Corporate overlords. Children in school.

Now the left starts playing dirty because they have no conscience or values, and think nothing of using our institutions as vehicles to enact their agenda. They start using the undemocratic mechanisms of our system against the people. They take the idea to the courts where liberal activist judges implement it by fiat. They attack and infiltrate powerful institutions that don't want negative publicity like corporations and the military. They start to imply that anyone who disagrees is not just wrong, but immoral.

More and more people are now believing the idea. It is still a minority because the idea is, of course, ridiculous. But now that so many authority figures are repeating it, many people don't feel comfortable speaking out. At this point, the idea becomes mainstream orthodoxy despite the fact that, shockingly, it still has less than 50% support. It doesn't matter at this point though. People can see that the courts have ruled. Their corporate overlord has ruled. Their teacher who controls their grade has ruled. The 6 companies that control the mainstream media have ruled. Most now see adoption of the idea as inevitable and accept it.

Now more than 50% of the population supports the idea, actively or passively, and the left no longer has to play with kid gloves. It openly demonizes the opponents. It points out again and again how they represent less than 50% of the population, even though the idea has itself enjoyed the support of a bare minority for the vast majority of its existence. They threaten livelihoods. The threaten reputations. There is an indignant backlash from the right. Surely everyone can see how insane this is, right? IF WE JUST EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE HOW STUPID THIS IDEA IS, WE WILL PREVAIL BECAUSE HOW COULD WE NOT!? But of course that never works, does it? It's too late. The left controls the message and they have methods of enforcing compliance. There is nothing to do but sigh and move on to the next defeat.

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Once they've pounded the idea into their radical base for a few years it becomes party orthodoxy and it is introduced into the body politic

Dude, this entire comment was a bit of a master class, undeserving to be so buried. I am totally seeing this....I'm telling my liberal friends, Bernie is poison to so, so many men, but they just don't want to hear it. Great comment, worthy of a post somewhere.

[-] Imperator_Red 3 Points 8 months ago

I posted it pretty late after the main post was made.

[-] NohoTwoPointOh 2 Points 8 months ago

Well said. Your first two sentences are gold. I also do not understand how folks do not see this.

[-] redpillschool 2 Points 8 months ago

+1

[-] lamanz2 1 Point 8 months ago

Ironically, that's how the Nazis rose to prominence as well.

[-] Luckyluke23 17 Points 8 months ago

The only reason Bumble is successful is because of thirsty horny guys

this can be applied to SO many things.

reddit. came girls porn. ect

[-] NohoTwoPointOh 1 Point 8 months ago

Legislation, even...

[-] MethIsDeath 6 Points 8 months ago

On the flipside though, it saves you a lot of time compared to Tinder. At least you know they're interested if they message you first.

[-] trollreign 1 Point 8 months ago

This is not that simple I'm afraid. I personally know a female recruiter who regularly recruits for part time jobs exclusively from Facebook groups for women who are currently stay-at-home mums but want to return to work into a part time job.

It's fine that they want to work, but it's not okay that recruitment happens through channels where men are automatically excluded. It's not necessary for Bumble to have companies use their service, all they need is female recruiters using this rather than LinkedIn or other platforms where men have a chance.

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[-] SalporinRP 108 Points 8 months ago

At the end of the day most of the highly sought after jobs will still go to men because Men can actually do the work and do it well.

At my company, out of the 15 or so women that work in my department I'd say there are maybe 2 that are good at their job. And good for them!

The rest are lazy idiots

[-] HumanSockPuppet 67 Points 8 months ago

Don't worry. Increasing government intervention will ensure that every company meets its inefficiency quota by hiring incompetent people from every walk of life.

[-] Imperator_Red 20 Points 8 months ago

Exactly. Can people not understand this when they are saying "herp derppp the people that can do da job will always get hired." The government has shown that it is more than willing to use its power to compel business owners to do anything it wants.

[-] thirstybitch13 -16 Point 8 months ago

Thanks to Donald cuck trump.

[-] PimpinAce175 5 Points 8 months ago

Then work for cash only and work under the table and not give Uncle Sam a cent. Fuck it play dirty

[-] HumanSockPuppet 12 Points 8 months ago

That's illegal and UnAmerican, and I won't hear anymore of it /nsa_surveillance

[-] PimpinAce175 1 Point 8 months ago

Are you being ironic?? Are county fought a war over taxation, the revolutionary war

[-] HumanSockPuppet 8 Points 8 months ago

It's a joke, bruh

[-] thirstybitch13 6 Points 8 months ago

Yes he's being sarcastic. And his spell check actually works.

[-] 006rbc 13 Points 8 months ago

My workplace used to be headed up by a guy with women making up the rest of the office staff, about 7 total. Everything was ran fine until they put a woman in charge and it's nothing but daily chaos.

[-] The_LongJohnDon 5 Points 8 months ago

In my field they are a like unicorns. Either they’re the bosses daughter who get preferential treatment, they’re in safety with a massive chip on their shoulder/penis envy, or they became petro chem engineers. Either way they become Minnesota 9s due to their rarity and always get a leg up. I can literally count the number I’ve seen in the field in the past four years on one hand. Very few make a career out of it and they’re usually getting dicked down by the closest joe.

[-] syf3r 4 Points 8 months ago

granted there are lazy people of both gender. lazy men will accept why they are not getting the same compensation as their counterparts. lazy women will bitch and whine why they aren't.

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[-] SalporinRP 1 Point 8 months ago

Yeah and good luck to them when in 5 years they're doing the same job

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At the end of the day most of the highly sought after jobs will still go to men because Men can actually do the work and do it well.

This right here. I think it's ok to observe anti-male biases, but wallowing in them is a Bad Idea.

[-] BlindingTwilight 59 Points 8 months ago

This is run by white women and aimed at white women. White women earn more than black men, hispanic men or native american men. They also live longer, have better health care, have less social problems, are less likely to be victims of crime than men from minority groups. The idea that white women need special treatment is toxic femininity at it’s best.

[-] badgerninjacow 36 Points 8 months ago

White women are the most protected class of people in existence at this point

[-] ireadredpillonce 7 Points 8 months ago

They are the most protected class of people that have ever existed. Cleopatra is like a factory worker in 18th century England by comparison

[-] kylerosa21 53 Points 8 months ago

So it’s unconstitutional. I can’t wait until someone makes a legal case against this

[-] syf3r 21 Points 8 months ago

ironically, it would help if they become mildly successful. then the lawsuit floodgates would open for that sweet sweet loot.

unfortunately, i doubt they'll achieve much success. what kind of companies would want to hire fake sexual harassment ticking timebombs?

[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 8 months ago

We have. Like a million times. The courts, in their infinite wisdom, have ruled that discrimination is fine as long as it promotes diversity. This is the current American legal jurisprudence on affirmative action. As long as the institution says that they are discriminating to promote diversity, that is good enough.

[-] NYCSPARKLE 1 Point 8 months ago

It’s a networking tool. Not an official hiring program.

I’d be curious to know how many female coders work at Bumble...

[-] c_w_o_o_l_l_y 37 Points 8 months ago

You wouldn't want to work for the kind of company that would only seek out women anyway. Consider it a win-win. You don't have to work for them, and their business craters immediately due to terrible hiring practises.

[-] autoeroticassfxation 14 Points 8 months ago

Yeah not even women like working in fembitch work environments. Let them have their sexist HR stuff, it's helping protect us males from them.

[-] EdAnt 2 Points 8 months ago

Agreed. This is a self-correcting problem.

[-] Mr_Badass 22 Points 8 months ago

They may claim its "women only" but I'm confident they can't legally discriminate men. Wouldn't be surprised if a troll joins and starts chaos.

[-] russian_nigger 15 Points 8 months ago

like the guy that sued curves gym

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 6 Points 8 months ago

story time. tell me more. this sounds like an epic story.

[-] Wolveryn 18 Points 8 months ago

Bumble is a feminist app, the way women chat first. In comparison to Tinder I’ve found only the uglier wall hit type of women tend to go on it

[-] good_guy_submitter 4 Points 8 months ago

Women like the validation of many men pining for them. Even though they reject 90%

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Idk. Bumble isn't really any different from Tinder aside from women not getting as much spam. All they do is say "heyy :)", and then the man starts the conversation and things proceed exactly how it does on Tinder.

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[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 8 months ago

Dude it's actually the opposite. A woman loses all her power once she is forced to initiate the interaction.

[-] Motorola_Nova 15 Points 8 months ago

Let them.

[-] AyameNoop 15 Points 8 months ago

FWIW. I'm in the supply chain industry and it's totally dominated by women for some reason (equality be damned)

I've personally asked a top recruiter specalizing in this this field and he confirmed it.

I've had a bunch of interviewers tell me, and I quote "our department is all ladies, are you able to handle it?" Which is probably some code for "You dont have a pussy so we're probably not hiring you"

Also the beauty and fashion industry is almost dominated entirely by women regardless of job function. I got flat out told by a recruiter that they only wanted to hire a woman once. Wish I had the foresight to record it and report them

[-] seius 4 Points 8 months ago

Also the beauty and fashion industry is almost dominated entirely by women

Yet every hair dresser worth their salt is a man, every fashion designer that actually makes decent clothing is a man.

Might be 90% female, but the top of the industry is inverted.

[-] NotTuringBot 1 Point 8 months ago

Erm..... Supply chain is not female dominated. Perhaps fashion supply chain

[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 8 months ago

Specifically I'm in demand and/or supply planning and yes it is female dominated, at least from what I see. Production planning is also female dominated and the bulk of the guys are.....you guessed it, either loading and or driving the trucks or assembly technicians

[-] NotTuringBot 2 Points 8 months ago

In what industry?

I'm a supply chain consultant and I can assure you that it is not female dominated except in the fashion and retail industries

[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 8 months ago

Engineering/Industrial/Manufacturing

[-] NotTuringBot 2 Points 8 months ago

Those aren't industries, they're functions.

According to Gartner, 2018, women make up 37% of the supply chain workforce. Hardly female dominated.

[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure the 3 I listed is the industry and supply chain is the function

Unless ofc you are refering to logistics companies like Fed Ex, Ceva Logistics etc

[-] NotTuringBot 1 Point 8 months ago

Industry is things like fashion, retail, automotive, fmcg.

Anyway this is done now. I quoted Gartner, who are probably the most respected voice on this matter.

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You were both right, just talking past each other, I think. I could see the admin part of supply chain being rather female dominated, but they aren't slinging boxes.

[-] NotTuringBot 1 Point 8 months ago

Even admin isn't. It's really not, all the studies show it. OP who I was arguing with still hasn't admitted that he works in fashion, which IS female dominated.

[-] the99percent1 0 Points 8 months ago

Most of the bosses/owners are males though. Even if it is a woman boss, she is backed by her rich husband.

[-] AyameNoop 2 Points 8 months ago

I get what you are going with this. But i'm talking in more generic terms like mncs and publicly listed smes. Not the sole propreitor type businesses

[-] the99percent1 0 Points 8 months ago

If they are publicly list, then they have to perform and chances are, they are there on merit.

[-] AyameNoop 2 Points 8 months ago

Well i guess the only logical conclusion would be that assumingly when an opening opens up, the average male applicant is 1 or 2 steps behind the average female applicant, therefore when you assume no gender bias the applicant that gets hired has a higher chance (in some cases almost a 100% chance) of being female

[-] bestplayer23 8 Points 8 months ago

Too bad they are not publicly traded, this would be an easy short. I think realistically they might be doing this to secure more funding, allowing VC's to virtue signal.

[-] AlfredKinsey 8 Points 8 months ago

Boom. VC's and VSing go hand in hand. One time, at a conference for black engineers, I made an actual discrimination-measures application (tracked discrimination based on score) at a Google hackathon and they looked at me like I was mocking them. An anti-online-bullying application won the competition. I'm pretty sure the theme was literally social justice.

[-] RepostGhostCst2Cst 7 Points 8 months ago

Good. This is a good idea for them. Let them do their own thing. Run women only companies. Women only housing. Women only everything.

Let them fail

[-] johnyann 3 Points 8 months ago

And then receive every possible tax break and subsidy so that no matter how incompetently they operate nobody can compete.

[-] TheDevilsAdvokaat 7 Points 8 months ago

Ok. Wait till it launches, then sue them.

There has been a gender war going on for millennia.

However, it is now worse than it ever was.

[-] B_llCl_nton_sARap_st 6 Points 8 months ago

Lol bumble suggests “Ruth Bader Ginsberg” as the answer to no less than 3 of their 10 stock questions

[-] lukesterboi1 5 Points 8 months ago

Prepare for the troll invasion

[-] BunchofAnimals 4 Points 8 months ago

I've tried to use Bumble for "Networking". I've matched with interesting dudes, chatted about common interests, connected with two photographers, pretty standard fare.

I've matched with about 30 women on the Biz side. Not ONE of them messaged. I don't know whether to laugh, or laugh hysterically.

[-] 8380atgmaildotcom 4 Points 8 months ago

Honestly when it comes to this I think most business will end up fine. Because most businesses are about bullshit and women are better at meaningless bullshit than men. I think men did this to themselves by taking the easy route and allowing a path for women to enter their fields.

[-] Milk_moustache 3 Points 8 months ago

Good luck with that. I hope they get what they’re looking for in the sake of employing for diversity. Whether that’ll be actually good is a lesson they’ll end up learning.

[-] Press2ForEnglish 3 Points 8 months ago

The idea is to help a traditionally underrepresented workforce connect and build support systems outside the office.

Since they're so concerned about underrepresentation I wonder if they can do the same with fathers.

[-] strayaura 3 Points 8 months ago

How incredibly sexist.

How would the sjw react if there was a male-only networking tool?

[-] AyameNoop 1 Point 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure if you asked then they'd point to one of the many fine gentleman's country clubs (not a strip club the kind with mahogany furniture, marble and golf courses) across the country

[-] strayaura 1 Point 8 months ago

Well, damn. Thats true. For some reason I completely blanked out on those, I always figured they were like family institutions. But there are plenty of non-collegiate fraternities out there.

[-] TheImpossible1 3 Points 8 months ago

That's fucking illegal.

The gender war is already getting dirty.

[-] trollreign 3 Points 8 months ago

They literally create a platform where they can recruit their "girlfriends" or "like-minded" feminists rather than the most competent person for the job.

Incredible that we are so cuckolded that this goes on virtually unchallenged.

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[-] BurnoutRS 3 Points 8 months ago

The company has an excellent name. I get a shit eating grin out of content like this. Their name is fucking Bumble, and theyre bumbling this shit up hard.

[-] MRP50 3 Points 8 months ago

Haha...exclude 70% of the best candidates...

How'd that go for you?

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[-] 512165381 3 Points 8 months ago

Illegal in Australia.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sex-discrimination/about-sex-discrimination

The Sex Discrimination Act 1984 protects people from unfair treatment on the basis of their sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, intersex status, marital or relationship status, pregnancy and breastfeeding. It also protects workers with family responsibilities and makes sexual harassment against the law.

[-] SnowMonkeyCracker 1 Point 8 months ago

Positive Discrimination is legal in Australia when it favours a "protected" class.

[-] seedster5 3 Points 8 months ago

What kind of man wants to work for feminazi anyway. As a man never work in a female.dominated industry. Nothing good will ever come out of it. Also it's all fun and games until you have missing workers because they're having babies. Nothing against having babies but that's why you have a balance in the work place and optimal efficiency in engineering/oil and gas.

[-] Ascend_Daily_305 3 Points 8 months ago

Class action gender discrimination, who's with me?

We can burn their stuff and dragging to the cave after a clubbing

[-] 7Tomus 2 Points 8 months ago

You guiz are worried that you wont get job at Hooters or what? Any serious company with some basic sense will never use this, and if thats not the case you dont want to be there anyway.

[-] PimpinAce175 2 Points 8 months ago

Men took care of women since the beginning of man kind, this is how they thank us. When the Huns are at the gate I’ll be relaxing not giving a shit

[-] GirlsAreReallyFeline 2 Points 8 months ago

This is so fucking awesome.

If women start using this app, and all the while continue to use other methods of "representation", then this app will be useless, since nobody is stupid enough to hire only women, not even women.

If women start exclusively using this app for their representation, many people can avoid hiring them, since they already filtered themselves out.

I can't wait to find out which it is going to be.

[-] krunchtimer 1 Point 8 months ago

"representation"

It's almost like an Orwellian thing how that article used that word.

[-] ntvirtue 2 Points 8 months ago

Use of this software should automatically equal a winning lawsuit.

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[-] stripethrowaway 2 Points 8 months ago

It's already upsetting enough to be hired and wondering if you only got hired to fulfill some sort of "gender" or "diversity" quota. It's worse than getting a participation trophy. Now they're building a social network around it?

Speechless.

[-] PutinVsWittes 2 Points 8 months ago

Anybody own a construction company and a sense of humor?

[-] SKRedPill 2 Points 8 months ago

Sometime back there was an article up here about what happened to an enterprise without men or masculine energy in it.

Long story short - it shut down because it was not possible to herd cats.

[-] the99percent1 2 Points 8 months ago

Let them. If a company is so stupid to limit their hiring options so drastically, they wont exist for long.

[-] bilabrin 2 Points 8 months ago

More power to them I say. As a man I honestly don't care if a business excludes me for that. I think it's a dumb idea for business.

When I work for a company I receive pay and benefits and they receive the benefits of my work which, logically will be worth more than they pay me. If a company would pass over an opportunity to receive the benefit of my work for someone female but less valuable then that is their loss, not mine.

The same would be true of a restaurant who had a "no men allowed" policy.

[-] AlfredKinsey 1 Point 8 months ago

What do you think is a good ratio of an employee's compensation vs. value to the company?

[-] bilabrin 1 Point 8 months ago

I assume by good you mean profitable. By that definition any ratio less than 1 that also allows you to keep that employee from seeking a better opportunity.

[-] AlfredKinsey 0 Points 8 months ago

Haha. I meant more from a personal perspective as an employee, rather than from a business owner perspective, i.e. what share of your worth to a company is enough to feel proper and keep you from taking your labor elsewhere?

[-] bilabrin 2 Points 8 months ago

Well we're dealing with a lot of intangibles here that I fold in like work environment, other employees, tool of the job in terms of pay and benefits so its not an easy question, more of a relative one but, assuming I don't have the capital to start a business and work for myself I'll pay about 25-50% for access to their capital and process structure which makes me much more profitable and effective. So then about 50-75% of my overall profitability to the company paid back is enough to keep me from searching....probably.

[-] AlfredKinsey 1 Point 8 months ago

Thanks for fleshing that out. I've had a wide swath of compensation schemes and I know I felt undervalued when I was getting (sometimes far) less than 30% of the money I brought in. Even at otherwise fun or interesting jobs, I felt slighted enough that I was always eager to move on.

I'm a lot happier working both for myself and with more generous partners, in the 50-100% range.

[-] bilabrin 1 Point 8 months ago

Is that 50-100% of overall value or of profit after bills are paid?

[-] AlfredKinsey 1 Point 8 months ago

None of the work I do for myself or others incurs much in the way of bills, but I meant overall value. Might be a higher portion of profit where I work with others, since labor from support staff is occasionally used, but almost all of what I earn for myself and other companies is profit. Costs besides labor are negligible.

[-] CainPrice 2 Points 8 months ago

This, alone, is not a significant event. Some woman starts a woman only networking site?

The only people who are going to make use of this are people who can't cut it in the regular job world. This on its own, isn't going to lead to lots of female hires and fewer opportunities for men. The only employers who would use something like this to find an employee are people who have already decided to hire only a woman for the position and want to deliberately use a woman only site to look. So it's not like that was a major opportunity for a man that got stolen away. And the women who use it would be women looking for bonus opportunities for being female instead of being good. Probably not the greatest talent out there.

Where things might get ugly is the next step. What if an employer was legally required to hire a certain percent women? What if unequal hiring and promotion outcomes were legally dubbed to be proof of discrimination and employers were required to hire and promote women based on sex instead of a purely qualification-based decision to avoid fines and lawsuits?

Today, a private website for women to network with each other is only interesting and useful to people who are already only interested in giving women opportunities. And on woman employees who want extra opportunities for being women instead of being good.

That might change tomorrow, though.

[-] ImperialEquivalent 2 Points 8 months ago

Any company that recruits new hires off a swiping-based dating app deserves what it it gets. Regardless of whether the women-first aspect is legal or not, this is just fucking retarded.

[-] Betanorman 2 Points 8 months ago

I don't understand why you guys aren't supporting this, if this thing was allowed it would give men moral and legal permission to do the same.

[-] 1TRUEKING 2 Points 8 months ago

I don't understand what this is going to accomplish? Most male dominated jobs are STEM and most women do not major in STEM so they are unqualified to even interview for the job... And if women do major in STEM, they are already ALWAYS given interviews especially by big tech companies like google. They prioritize women and latinos/blacks already this bumble feature is literally useless. If you're a women with qualifications already you will already be a leg up on regular men. Maybe they can use this service to talk about their feelings and a support group for how men are treating them unfairly lmao...

[-] 11-Eleven-11 2 Points 8 months ago

Who cares? We know what will happen. 75% of employee hires will be women. They do a shit job. In 5 years they'll be bankrupt, lay offs follow suit, and then they'll be complaining about the wage gap and inequality in the workplace again.

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[-] angryirishman 1 Point 8 months ago

honestly I think itll be fine

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[-] MattyAnon 1 Point 8 months ago

I am TOTALLY in favour of this:

It provides an easy way to filter out entitled women by simply not using their service. This can even be presented as a virtue: "We can't use a service that discriminates against and excludes half the population".

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[-] NormalAndy 1 Point 8 months ago

Let them do it.

That’s the point here- I love it.

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[-] huggyblossom 1 Point 8 months ago

Nothing bad, but from my personal experience they only want the benefits of the job aka salary and status...

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My boss nearly stopped hiring women on certain position below 31, because for the past 1 year we had over 11 girls start get a huge salary for my country and go pregnant. And with our social care they get 2 years of motherhood with full salary.

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The end will be when all the white knights are capable of baring a baby which is soon on the radar from the talks I had with a friend keen on biology... so in 20 years man will be pregnant and girls will do man job :) Such a bright future for my offsprings. I can't wait to laugh from the bench :)

[-] Fede10204 1 Point 8 months ago

Yo what? Men birthing a child?

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[-] HootsTheOwl 1 Point 8 months ago

For a company built on the understanding that women won't assert themselves unless they're prompted (and even then just say "hey" 99% of the time) this seems like a pretty cynical move

[-] PimpinAce175 1 Point 8 months ago

Haha I had a feeling bra :p

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[-] latinasonly 1 Point 8 months ago

who fucking cares . recruiters can already exclude men if they wanted to. all these kind of posts do is make the betas reading TRP more mad at women , making their situation harder.

whats important is reversing laws that are f*cking men over.

[-] TheTrenTrannyTrain 1 Point 8 months ago

This is just a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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[-] Iamthespiderbro 1 Point 8 months ago

Nice. I wanted a good reason to delete my Bumble.

[-] dDiegoDLV 1 Point 8 months ago

The shit reply rate wasn't enough?

Not a shot at you. I had less conversations and went on significantly less dates from Bumble than any other dating app.

Women do not really want to write first. Bumble is the BP version of a dating app so of course it is garbage.

[-] Iamthespiderbro 1 Point 8 months ago

Not going to lie, a few years ago, Bumble was amazing for me. I save the person’s last name as Bumble every time I get their number and go on a date. I have 38. Much more than the other apps. Within the last year or two they’ve gotten really outspoken about social issues so I’ve been pretty turned off. I get on every now and then and wow has everyone abandoned this app. Pretty much a great example of “get woke, go broke”. I’ve held onto to it because there is some pretty good data I have accumulated, but otherwise if you want dates, use hinge... it’s what Bumble used to be.

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[-] centaursg 0 Points 8 months ago

Could be a game changer. As long as there is a moral element to it, no one cares if its unconstitutional, especially these days. They will not come after men dominated jobs like construction, heavy labor etc.

Their focus will be mostly on desk jobs or office jobs.. The only thing that a man can do is not keep his shit together (dont fuck where you eat) and improve your game (skills, "game", looks etc) because there is no way to stop this wave.

[-] Orochimaru331 0 Points 8 months ago

The CEO of Bumble is hot af

[-] pyrovoice -10 Point 8 months ago

Oh my god those type of meninist and mysoginist comments has nothing to do on this sub. It's supposed to be a sharp truth about the world sub, and this is a sharp truth. You should just accept it and adapt, like every other change in society.

Edit: in case there might be a misunderstanding, I'm not criticizing the post or the fact that this should be discussed. I'm mad that all the top posts are "lol they will be fired cause only men do good work". We are better than that.

[-] redpillschool 7 Points 8 months ago

We're acknowledging the culture war that's happening.

[-] pyrovoice -3 Point 8 months ago

Did you read the comments ? I'm not saying your post is wrong per see, but what I see here is basically "lol they will be fired cause only men do good work" seriously ?

[-] russian_nigger 7 Points 8 months ago

most women are useless in the office setting. that's the hard truth. not sure where you have worked or how much work experience you have, but i've worked for companies with a large proportion of women and its always a shitshow and nothing gets done. the office infighting alone on the daily basis is enough to make you not want to come in.

[-] BlindingTwilight 2 Points 8 months ago

You are way off. I should preface this by saying that I am very much a red pilled man but there are plenty of office jobs which suit women just fine. I have a lot of staff and my female staff make me just as much money as the males. The men are generally in the more senior roles but my female employees are great at their jobs and I enjoy working with them. The problem here is not women in the office, it is the offensive idea that you could exclude all men. It is particularly offensive because it is primarily run by and aimed at white women. White women earn more and live longer than black men, hispanic men or native american men. Why should those men be excluded?

[-] russian_nigger 4 Points 8 months ago

sure, some positions they're good at. as a general rule though, i wouldn't hire a woman unless it was a sales job and she has a proven track record.

[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 8 months ago

but there are plenty of office jobs which suit women just fine

Yea women are pretty good at admin because they are good at creating and mindlessly bureaucratic procedures. They are also good at HR because they are good at creating and enforcing rules on behavior, tattling, tone policing, etc. It basically allows them to "herd cats" like they were evolved to do - just instead of policing their children's behavior and language they police their co-workers because they have no children.

White women earn more and live longer than black men, hispanic men or native american men.

Weird how you manage to turn it in to a racial thing. I guess most minorities really are no better than women in this regard. Every problem or issue must somehow be connected to their perceived oppression. You know, black and Hispanic men get a lot more pussy than Asian men. I think we should redistribute some of the black and Hispanic pussy to them.

[-] BlindingTwilight 1 Point 8 months ago

I didn’t turn it in to a racial thing, I exposed the stupidity of identity politics. You seem to have a need to reduce and define women on very strict terms. There are plenty of competent female employees. I make good money off of them. Seems silly to try and trace their performance to tightly defined categories or reasons.

[-] pyrovoice 1 Point 8 months ago

I don't know what you do or where you live that this is true, but only 4 years in the working world showed me this is not true, at least here. Some outliers are useless for both sex, but the average is the same.

[-] Imperator_Red 1 Point 8 months ago

Oh my god those type of meninist and mysoginist comments has nothing to do on this sub.

Have you been checked by a doctor recently to see if you have any brain tumors?

[-] pyrovoice 1 Point 8 months ago

No but good idea, thank you for taking the time to write this.