Expendable Men, Perishable Women - "in the modern West, beta male providers are rendered more expendable. And where sluttery, cheating, cuckoldry, and single mommery are rising, male parental investment declines because men are no longer confident in their paternity with any one woman."
One of my bigger problems with the MRA crowd, though, is that these days, a stalwart father has enough legal rights to press his claims and at least get full shared joint custody. I've never really groked this. If a woman divorces, 7 times in 10 she's off to the CC, and of course would take free babysitting. If a man can't handle the fact that his ex is off banging other dudes, well.....you feelings aren't as important as your kid, so deal with it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if co-parenting from the getgo becomes a norm. I don't deny that intact families with full blood siblings is best, but it that doesn't mean dysfunctional families should be held together.
All that said....I dated a single mother once. Once. I spent the day over at her place, drinking beer, grilling burgers, playing with her two sons, 12 and 5, ignoring her entirely. That night, I went to her room, there were 50 candles lit and I got one of the best blowjobs of my life. The light wasn't the only thing that came on, and I've been running scared from single mothers for 14 years now.
I hate to say this, but Western civilization deserves to fall and be replaced with a foreign patriarchal culture that will not take shit from Western women whose hypergamous tendencies spiralled out of control and feminized beta cunts that equally served as accomplices.
Used to be that women would cheat on husband with chad, get pregnant, pass off the child as the husbands progeny and protect her deception with any means necessary.
Today women will openly fuck chad and get pregnant with and emasculated husbands approval, then go for drinks with chad and husband at the bar to celebrate.
Got a problem with that? Guess what, you are a bigot, misogynist, incel pig!! Its 2019, go back to the stone age. Be a good little real man and accept your role in blissful cuckoldry, you dont want to be a bigot now do you? Of course you dont, bigots are creepy outcasts.
Of all inquiries for paternity testing received by paternity labs, most labs place the results at roughly a third of off tests revealing the father as not the biological father. That is over 30 percent. Considering that figure accounts for only those with a reason to inquire about paternity, the million dollar question is:
If those who never inquire for paternity testing was factored in, would the number of negative results rise or fall?
Based on how the raw truth has left me in awe and disbelief so far, i figure the true number while shocking, would hardly surprize me.
This day and age is filled with endless sources of chuckles for guy like me who can no longer be surprized by anything. Nothing can give me that moment of open mouthed, wide eyed disbelief and shock anymore. And then a fat chick sues a rapper because she is fat, what next.
A few decades back, I think in the 50s or 60s, there was a genetic study on heredity done were it was incidentally found that 10% of purported father’s in the study were not actually the father of the child in question.
A 30% negative rate is probably inflated since most paternity tests are performed where there are already suspicions of infidelity and the set of women suspected of cheating probably has a higher proportion of cheaters than the general population. A random sample of the population would generate a more accurate rate.
That being said it is possibly rates of cuckoldry have increased since the mid 20th century and as don’t have the specific demographics of the survey in front of me. I remember reading about it in Jared Diamond’s ‘The Third Chimpanzee’ in the chapter on human sexuality if anyone wants to check out more details.
"If those who never inquire for paternity testing were factored in, would the number of negative results rise or fall?"
It seems i need to clarify that when I say "those who never inquire for paternity testing" i mean the general population. Your point is basically my point articulated differently.
And now that we have established that we are in agreement, I doubt a result of 10 percent in the 50's and 60's can be compared to any findings or estimates in 2019, the times differ drastically as i am sure you would agree.
If anything, i think that if paternity testing were to be made discreetly by the government for the general population for only the last decade the number of negatives in western nations would be nuclear.
I didn't disagree, I answered on purpose. I should have been more explicit in saying I believe the rate will go down.
It could be higher but hypergamy has always been around so it's possible the false paternity rate is actually stable. At minimum the figure of negatives is 10%, and 30% could be considered a maximum. I'd say the figure is likely closer to 10 than 30, although either poses a substantial risk of cuckoldry to would be fathers.
For the hell of it I'll propose 16.7% as a compromise rate to make it full blown Russian Roulette style odds.
Yes fair fair enough. When one thinks about this, even a rate as "low" as 10 percent is unacceptable. It becomes more clear that it is every single mans responsibility to verify his childs paternity no matter how sure he is, especially in the modern climate of unchecked and unabashed hypergamy
And soon men who decide to not play into the social engineers' schemes would be forced to pay a "bachelor tax" of sorts to fund all these entitled whores who will be further incentivized to cuck their partners and have the nanny state pay for their kids' expenses. But of course this will only apply on low SMV males. The alphas will be kept for breeding purposes
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One of my bigger problems with the MRA crowd, though, is that these days, a stalwart father has enough legal rights to press his claims and at least get full shared joint custody. I've never really groked this. If a woman divorces, 7 times in 10 she's off to the CC, and of course would take free babysitting. If a man can't handle the fact that his ex is off banging other dudes, well.....you feelings aren't as important as your kid, so deal with it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if co-parenting from the getgo becomes a norm. I don't deny that intact families with full blood siblings is best, but it that doesn't mean dysfunctional families should be held together.
All that said....I dated a single mother once. Once. I spent the day over at her place, drinking beer, grilling burgers, playing with her two sons, 12 and 5, ignoring her entirely. That night, I went to her room, there were 50 candles lit and I got one of the best blowjobs of my life. The light wasn't the only thing that came on, and I've been running scared from single mothers for 14 years now.
LondonChad1999 5y ago
This cliffhanger wtf dude finish the story lol
FiveStarTendieDinner 5y ago
This is why you need to pump and dump, never commit, ghost each girl, never raise a child, and spread your seed far and wide.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
I hate to say this, but Western civilization deserves to fall and be replaced with a foreign patriarchal culture that will not take shit from Western women whose hypergamous tendencies spiralled out of control and feminized beta cunts that equally served as accomplices.
Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
Used to be that women would cheat on husband with chad, get pregnant, pass off the child as the husbands progeny and protect her deception with any means necessary.
Today women will openly fuck chad and get pregnant with and emasculated husbands approval, then go for drinks with chad and husband at the bar to celebrate.
Got a problem with that? Guess what, you are a bigot, misogynist, incel pig!! Its 2019, go back to the stone age. Be a good little real man and accept your role in blissful cuckoldry, you dont want to be a bigot now do you? Of course you dont, bigots are creepy outcasts.
Of all inquiries for paternity testing received by paternity labs, most labs place the results at roughly a third of off tests revealing the father as not the biological father. That is over 30 percent. Considering that figure accounts for only those with a reason to inquire about paternity, the million dollar question is:
If those who never inquire for paternity testing was factored in, would the number of negative results rise or fall?
Based on how the raw truth has left me in awe and disbelief so far, i figure the true number while shocking, would hardly surprize me.
This day and age is filled with endless sources of chuckles for guy like me who can no longer be surprized by anything. Nothing can give me that moment of open mouthed, wide eyed disbelief and shock anymore. And then a fat chick sues a rapper because she is fat, what next.
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
A few decades back, I think in the 50s or 60s, there was a genetic study on heredity done were it was incidentally found that 10% of purported father’s in the study were not actually the father of the child in question.
A 30% negative rate is probably inflated since most paternity tests are performed where there are already suspicions of infidelity and the set of women suspected of cheating probably has a higher proportion of cheaters than the general population. A random sample of the population would generate a more accurate rate.
That being said it is possibly rates of cuckoldry have increased since the mid 20th century and as don’t have the specific demographics of the survey in front of me. I remember reading about it in Jared Diamond’s ‘The Third Chimpanzee’ in the chapter on human sexuality if anyone wants to check out more details.
TL;DR A 10% cuck rate is a good base estimate.
Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
"If those who never inquire for paternity testing were factored in, would the number of negative results rise or fall?"
It seems i need to clarify that when I say "those who never inquire for paternity testing" i mean the general population. Your point is basically my point articulated differently.
And now that we have established that we are in agreement, I doubt a result of 10 percent in the 50's and 60's can be compared to any findings or estimates in 2019, the times differ drastically as i am sure you would agree.
If anything, i think that if paternity testing were to be made discreetly by the government for the general population for only the last decade the number of negatives in western nations would be nuclear.
Proto_Sigma 5y ago
I didn't disagree, I answered on purpose. I should have been more explicit in saying I believe the rate will go down.
It could be higher but hypergamy has always been around so it's possible the false paternity rate is actually stable. At minimum the figure of negatives is 10%, and 30% could be considered a maximum. I'd say the figure is likely closer to 10 than 30, although either poses a substantial risk of cuckoldry to would be fathers.
For the hell of it I'll propose 16.7% as a compromise rate to make it full blown Russian Roulette style odds.
Synthetic_Citizen 5y ago
Yes fair fair enough. When one thinks about this, even a rate as "low" as 10 percent is unacceptable. It becomes more clear that it is every single mans responsibility to verify his childs paternity no matter how sure he is, especially in the modern climate of unchecked and unabashed hypergamy
teveza11 5y ago
Beta male providers are practically obsolete, since the government can perform the same function.
Thus, "nice guys" and committed men have lost tons of value, which is one of the reasons for male anger in 2019.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
And soon men who decide to not play into the social engineers' schemes would be forced to pay a "bachelor tax" of sorts to fund all these entitled whores who will be further incentivized to cuck their partners and have the nanny state pay for their kids' expenses. But of course this will only apply on low SMV males. The alphas will be kept for breeding purposes
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