The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
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textualintercourse 5y ago
"...because over time all game becomes scripted, it was easy to tell in the responses which men had very little experience and which men were quite experienced, because as you practice game, you also streamline game."
God's truth right there. When you realize AWALT, and it truly sets in the LITERALLY ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME just wearing different skins, the game defaults to easy mode. You can apply the definition of insanity to work in your favor. Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result, in this case laid.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
For myself, getting into Red Pill past 30 was a blessing. I'd had success with women, not as much as I would have liked. Being older, though, I had enough life experience to know sex and women were ultimately not THAT important. A notch belt and bragging rights isn't THAT important.
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It's great, and part of being a healthy male, and a lot of fun. However, I already knew that once the conquest was had, the post orgasmic feelings hit, you know that their is a lot more important things to life.
It's healthier to get into this stuff after life experience. I think it's natural to have epiphanies when you're older. They only come after experience. Mine has been that sex and women are an expression of my masculinity. They are a release for it. But that masculinity is proven, forged and built in far different areas.
Anyone who makes 'game' the focus of their life, from an early age is severely fucking things up. I sometimes wonder how many young red pillers will wake up at 30 to 35 and say 'oh shit...I did everything for the purpose of getting laid'.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
The problem is, that these men still make women the center point of their life. As a PUA, as a tradcon, as an incel - it all revolves around women.
I switched my goals towards music, spirituality und martial arts. I will LTR a girl if it suits me, but otherwise I am content banging whores and not wasting a any more thought and energy on them than necessary.
Auvergnat 5y ago
Male sexual strategy is really underdiscussed on the manosphere compared to female one, so it’s a welcomed article. What he describes is most definitely a thing. Explains how all PUAs end up dropping, or that all TRP ECs end up disappearing. Roosh is currently experiencing this effect in quite an extreme manner - listening to his podcasts feel like tuning in to tradcon radio.
I wish Karl would have discussed the cause a bit more though. The trigger is definitely some form of disillusionment with following the alpha fucks strategy. Over time, women lose their shiny appeal, seduction loses its excitement, sex becomes routine. Direction and challenge are what motivate men into action, so what do you do when you end up facing that question “and now what?” What do you do when you’ve reached the top of that mountain? Sitting there till you die would most definitely not even come to a man’s mind.
Instead he would just walk down and look for another, bigger, mountain. And fatherhood/community seems like a natural choice, maybe the only one. Sure there’s also wealth or professional impact, but you can follow those while still alpha-fucking your way to them so in your mind it’s not that different: you’re still on the top of the mountain and it still feels numb and unappealing. No, you don’t have a choice. To shake off the numbness, you need to climb it down.
I’m not saying this is recommended, or justified, or good. I’m only saying that this behaviour would be totally expected, given male psychology.
OutsideTheCage3 5y ago
I have also been wondering about the deep psychology that keeps men in the game.
I wouldn't say it's the only one, but yeah, we're all descended from people who successfully had children... we likely have psychological adaptations that make us want to have children and make us feel empty w/o them.
AT SOME POINT, let me stress. You guys in your 20s, keep working on your game and career. Unless you have tagged a bunch of chicks, you don't know chicks.
swampbastard69 5y ago
Jack Donavon talks about this in the "Way of Men" - not as an epiphany phase but as an overall criticism of sex in our society becoming 'social'. I dont think men ever get 'bored' of banging HB's but rather they realize that sex with HB's is just one method of expressing their masculinity, and its a recreational/hobbyist method of expression. When a man realizes this he will likely want to go deeper with one person and build something. As we know here that carries enormous risk and will always collapse - hopefully decades later after raising a family rather than months or years later.
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From the piece:
Damned good points. I was a loser clear into my early 40's, and now I feel 0 urge for any transition phase, I'm still doubling down.
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maverick9759 5y ago
Is this supposed to mean like epiphany is something which happens after you had all the fun sex over a long time ? Like suddenly " I've fucked everything I wanted to .. now what ? " Moment ?
If that's the case I experience a mini epiphany every time I have an orgasm ( I am still 21). Before the sex I keep thinking the things I am gonna do and how soul shaking it would be. After it's over am like .. " that's it ? .. I need something greater .. a bigger high .. wayyy bigger.. this ain't enough. " And then I immediately have the desire to master something .. do something dangerous .. ride a dirt bike, shoot a few rounds or something. I suddenly wanna surpass whatever I am into something much more. I don't even know how to define ' much more '
sebastianconcept 5y ago
Sounds like “regular sex” which can be in contrast with having sex with a girl that happens to have deep connection with you (and you with her). Those are holly shit fucks and you’ll feel that even without climax.
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Gastraphetess 5y ago
I´ve been thinking about this for the past month, what a coincidence! From what I´ve seen, the epiphany phase starts when most of your friends are in LTRs and getting married.
With the rise of dating apps night game is dying and all nightclubs and bars look like gay clubs with 80% men. Day game is the future, it requires a different approach and mentality (which this whole male epiphany is about).
BumblingBeta 5y ago
Really? I just went to a night club the other week and it was as packed as I ever remember night clubs being. Sorry, but I think you're chatting shit with this post.
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Gastraphetess 5y ago
I was generalizing, it mostly depends on location (sex ratio in a city). This is a trend I've seen in the last years in a large latin american city where I'm at.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Male epiphany occurs for two reasons.