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wastedlifez 5y ago
The truth is that having an active good sex life with hot girls is completely over for 90% of western men. Why? Cause females are hooking up with the top 5-10% good looking men, that is the truth, and it even continues in the womens 30s and 40s.
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I talked to a girl who was 42 yesterday, she had 1700 matches in 3 weeks, she showed me some of them .. YOUNG HOT CHADS.
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Women dont hit the wall, that is a red pill myth and its false. Women can continue to get fucked by hot men thruout all their life.
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And the vaste majority of us will never ever even come CLOSE to that.
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Time to accept the facts and realise that "game" dont exist no more.
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You are born hot or not, this is based on ur facial attractiveness. If u dont got that, its over for u, atleast if u live in the west.
my_mix_still_sucks 5y ago
!! BREAKING NEWS !! water is wet!
cafeitalia 5y ago
On tinder top 20% of men do not compete. They get laid. Every week I can pull a new girl from tinder without much effort.
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DubbleFUPAwitCheez 5y ago
A little advice about tinder, even if you are top 20% you're still hamstringing yourself. I don't know if this bitch just rarely used tinder or never got to me or what but I swiped her right on tinder, didn't match, then met her in real life. I of course never mentioned that fact. Anyways, she proceeds to follow me around, text me all the time, cook me dinner and take a ton of abuse from me all with me giving nothing back. I was testing the limits of being an asshole at the time so I never really made an attempt to fuck her but the fact remains, puppy dog in person, too high on a self appointed pedestal to see me on tinder.
Psychocist 5y ago
Will we lament this for the rest of our lives? Who cares?
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
I never stated my opinion on this, it can be good or bad depending on if you can get to the top 20% or not.
Psychocist 5y ago
I suppose it's good motivation to aim for that top 20%.
wastedlifez 5y ago
Lol that shit is genetic, nothing u can do about it if u are not super good looking.
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Its not even 20%, rather 5%.
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
Agreed, it’s really the only life worth living as a man. Haven’t got there yet.
huhub 5y ago
I think "On Tinder 100% women are competing for the top 20% of men" should be more accurate.
chazthundergut 5y ago
No the real dogs and whales are the consolation prize for the bottom 80% of men to compete for
fearofgod1 5y ago
Depends on how many of the bottom 22% are actually dudes...
heeeytherepal 5y ago
Na G, I feel like right above the ugliest ones are the super self conscious ones. The ones that go for uglier guys that they know they’ll have control over.
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heeeytherepal 5y ago
Then you got Grindr for the bros ????????????????????
Imperator_Red 5y ago
As unrestrained hypergamy reaches it's zenith, you will start to see some incels, who will eventually comprise anywhere from 10-50% of the population, turning to gay sex.
halfback910 5y ago
As a gay guy I must say I don't buy it. They'll just turn to porn, sex robots, auto-blows, and pocket pussies depending on their income level.
There are SOME people on Grindr (well under 10%) who claim to be straight. Of those people I think, 50% are just struggling to come to terms, 40% are hookers, and maybe 10% are legitimately straight and just want someone to suck their dick. And a lot of those have broken arms.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
How do you explain prison homosexuality then?
halfback910 5y ago
They don't have porn and pocket pussies. Plus I think total isolation from women is different from merely not being able to fuck women. If they weren't different every 35 year old virgin out there would have been fucking guys for years.
Straight guys going gay is a fantasy of the gay community so maybe I'm just being reactionary. But I know I'd never let even a beautiful woman near my dick. I've OCCASIONALLY been stirred by 10/10 bombshell women but not as much as I would have been by a 6/10 guy.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Interesting. Do you think you could've banged the 10? Or even wanted to?
Out of curiosity, what's your interest in the red pill if you are gay?
halfback910 5y ago
I am a man and I have sex with men and men are being oppressed.
How could I not have interest? There's twice as many men being oppressed when I'm involved!
Edit: Couldn't have banged the ten.
A: She was a literal supermodel.
B: In an entirely different physical location.
Like I said there's very few women I've ever stirred for but it has technically happened.
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Rubbish27 5y ago
I love how the 80/20 rule comes up in literally every part of life
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Pareto principle is the name and it was discovered long time ago, and it is present in almost all sciences, sports too
Herdsengineers 5y ago
The Pareto Principal is even brought up in the Bible in Jesus's parables. It's been a recognized phenomenon for a very long time!
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
how do I make money off of this though?
ogbrien 5y ago
Make a book called the 4 hour work we- oh shit nvm
Tow1994 5y ago
Charge women to have sex with you - but charge per lbs/kg body weight.
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A joke, but I guess some guy out there is doing that.
WalterEArmstrong 5y ago
There are women so homely, obese and stinky I'd not boink even if the alternative was begging on the streets.
Youngyoda89 5y ago
Every time I desperately needed money I would have sex with my girlfriend and ask her for 100$. She always said yes. Sometimes gave me more.
NorthLocation12 5y ago
Like the guy in Facebook stole 1500 from his date
Duchat 5y ago
Roose Bolton figured it out.
hbPUA 5y ago
There is literally a book called, 80/20 sales and marketing.
Check it out to get started.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
Write 80 books and sell them for $20 each to get rich.
The 80/20 rule.
mental_models 5y ago
supply the winners and supply the losers.
I was going to answer your post in detail, but I came up with too many really good ideas to share publicly.
good luck
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
Share privately
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Rubbish27 5y ago
Honestly though look it up, if you can find what that 80% if people need you can get rich.
Blue_Eyed_Brad 5y ago
Unfortunately that's not how Hypergamy works. You can raise that 80% of men, but then you're just creating a new standard. Women will still compete for the top 20%. Just go out and day game it up. There isn't much competition there anymore.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
100% of people need food. Am farmer. Am not rich.
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McDougal52 5y ago
Solution found, destroy competition, become rich /s
Onein1024th 5y ago
gotta somehow escape selling goods that are commodities.
halfback910 5y ago
I don't think the utility companies are complaining.
Onein1024th 5y ago
Utility companies usually have a monopoly
DeliriousNF 5y ago
Trying to stay out of the commodity spiral for any product is a challenge. Differentiation is key
memphisjohn 5y ago
Wrong - correct application of Pareto distributions in business means that 20% of customers / prospects will provide 80% of the sales / profits. Don't chase the 80 - instead find the 20 and sell to them.
halfback910 5y ago
I guess that just means only go after big customers, then? Don't I want ALL the sales I can get as long as I am making profit off of them? Also each additional sale allows me to capture more economies of scale making every existing sale profitable.
memphisjohn 5y ago
No that's not necessarily what it means. I was just pointing out some interesting discoveries that are often made when examining data with this lens.
I will say that it can be useful for segmenting customers / prospects, one example might be that you discover that since some customers are less profitable than others, you might offer them different services / price points, or, market to them differently.
And no, you don't want all the customers you can get as long as you are making a profit. The trick there is to understand what a profit really means. Many companies understand that it's worthwhile to lose money up front, because you've acquired a customer for the long term. So if you only seek "profitable" customers at the first sale, you might actually be missing out. It all depends on your specifics and how you run the business.
Another school of thought goes roughly along these lines: you want to be the competitor who invest the most per customer / per sale, instead of the least. Reason why is that you can therefore drive other players to the less profitable /leftover customers.
Example: a car service center. Yes, they can do a $40 oil change and technically make a profit. But they would much prefer to do $1200 transmission jobs all day long. Both are "profitable" ... oil changes are a lot easier to sell ... but the transmission jobs, if you can build a reliable system to keep your garage busy, in the long run will make you more money.
halfback910 5y ago
I should have said profitable in the long run. I do vendor management and negotiation for a living so I get that companies much bigger than mine can command some very aggressive deals. For instance, if you deal with a car company the negotiation goes something like this:
"Well, because of the knowledge curve your company should get better at producing this stuff every year. So we actually expect your prices to go down 2% every year for the next 5 years."
This is very interesting. I'd not thought of that.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
It applies to other thigs in business as well. For example take a clothing store. 80% of their revenue will come from around 20% of their products.
Rubbish27 5y ago
There it is again! Every part of my life! 80/20 this 20/80 that, it's crazy!
memphisjohn 5y ago
lol wait til you get further down the wormhole - if you take the top 20% and analyze it... it also has an 80/20 pattern... it's recursive
This is a handy tool for understanding and setting real priorities.
BoringNormalGuy 5y ago
Youtube vids are a great example. You only need a few million people to want to watch you and you'll make thousands of dollars. That's not a lot of people when you put it into perspective by percentage.
Philosophipster 5y ago
Figure out in which aspect in life you are the 20 %, then capitalise. 'Rich' might be too much, but at least you'll find job satisfaction and have that aspect of your life covered (where your strength lies). Money cannot compensate for or replace personal achievement in that sense, like it can't replace LIFT factor.
Money is usually just a bunch of people saying: I like what you're doing so much that i'm paying for it. So if you can find the intersection of that hypothetical field in which you can be part of that 20 % and what people find interesting, you've got yourself a new goal in life :) A little market research may be required if you want to take the entrepreneurial approach, methinks.
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
This is great advice, for years I failed at building business based on trends.
In Jan I did just this, I decided, fuck it, I’m not going to build the next Facebook but I am well compensated in a competitive field, how can I make a business on this.
I’m balls deep it in now and looking forward to launching in a few weeks.
I’ve never been so optimistic about one of my ideas.
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Philosophipster 5y ago
Yeah man, it's like having a mind-baby :D I can imagine it's scary to let go of old constructs and routines 'n such. Probably the hardest part for everyone attempting to throw around the steering wheel, so to speak :)
Either way, good for you man! Hope it works out well beyond your expectations!
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
Yup also part of it was I hate my job so much, I have nothing to loose!
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nicethingyoucanthave 5y ago
The author of this tweet has a BS in computer science from Stanford and, as you'd expect of someone with that degree and two X chromosomes, tech companies are falling over themselves for a competent diversity hire. So, she's set for life. She's currently a project manager at GitHub, which is quite an achievement at two years out of school with an undergrad degree - I've personally never met a PM that didn't have a master's degree or at least 10 years experience.
So, this person is intelligent, competent, and has the right identity. She is connected and already influential in the tech community. This is the kind of person who, if you criticize her, your career will be ruined.
...and she's just dropped a red pill on her twenty thousand followers. A red pill which, if a man had revealed it, would have resulted in significant social consequences - I'm serious, if a male employee of github was talking about the 80/20 rule, he'd probably be fired from github for "creating an unsafe environment."
The point I'm getting to is, I'd bet that most of her followers are beta "tech bros" and male feminists. They're primed to white knight if anyone else drops a red pill. I imagine they're confused as hell over how they're supposed to react when she drops one on them. lol
Thinkingard 5y ago
Interesting. I was looking through her twitter posts and I could not help but think they are meant to make her look smart with an exciting variety of interests. It also felt like a sham. It's a veneer, a sheen, of looking like you are something you are most likely definitely not if you strip away the layers. It's no wonder, though, as many women, this one in particular, looks almost masculine and has the phizz Chateau Heartiste would warn you to stay away from. If she weren't able to artificially boost her SMV by a point (probably only one, tbh) with heavy makeup and manipulation of her hair she would be an absolute dog on the streets and in the sheets. Who would want those thin lips and big teeth caressing their knob while looking deeply into those small eyes and beetlebrows?
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The more I step away from the internet and focus on my mission the less patience I have for the artificial smartness of so many people. I don't care about your 120 IQ interests, artwork, pictures, deep thought quotes, science experiments, or articles. Does anyone else find the things smart women are interested in a big yawn? It's not just how awful the tyranny of the petticoat can get with a smart girl, but the things smart girls are drawn toward never seem appealing. Maybe there is something in dumb hot girls that is more appealing for a reason. Not only do they not bore you and infuriate you with stupid things, but they are mentally moldable to the man with a mission. Men can get their intellectual satisfaction through other men and books instead. Now that I think of it, I don't have any intellectual heroes who are women. The best of literature written by women lacks something I find in men's literature. Is this because the western woman is broken? Has the internet revealed too much of the inane thinking of the majority of people? Social media doesn't have editors in the way old newspapers and magazines and publishers did, so now all the trash those places rejected and sifted is out in the open for all to see. Vox Day pointed out long ago that a problem with midwits (not too dumb, not smart enough) is a desire to be seen as very smart, but then lacking the real mental firepower necessary to actually be smart. This woman's twitter is an example of that being played out in real life.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
The medium is the message. The fact that she gets to say something redpilled and get away with it is a redpilled truth in itself. She's wielding the equivalent power of a dictator or a cult leader.
There's gonna be more women like her in positions of power and leadership. Not even a high SMV male will escape unscathed if he commits a fuck up like violating the "don't shit where you eat" rule or challenges these female bosses in some other way. Learning about powertalk and the 48 Laws of Power is a must in this new workplace.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
No doubt a diversity hire, and likely a casting couch hire too.
These male feminist SJW hiring managers love to violate their own principles when it suits them, like most SJWs.
nicethingyoucanthave 5y ago
tut tut. That's how they get added to the list (tl;dw a list of male feminists who have been accused of rape/harassment - starts at 9:21)
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
That’s the entire SJW class bro. I know plenty of woman feminists (in fact fucked one this weekend) who do the exact opposite of practice what they preach when it comes to what they want in a man
anothdae 5y ago
Then maybe you should think that she didn't actually earn it.
memefucka 5y ago
I am an asian male product manager with less than 2y of experience, so I disagree with OP's anecdotal experience. I know this is TRP, but judging from her accomplishments and activities (from her personal website), I think she likely got her jobs mostly from merit. That said, I'm sure being a young attractive female never hurt her odds.
anothdae 5y ago
If we apply the leftist logic to the situation, she has benefited from SJW practices her whole life. She has had "systemic advantage". More people encouraged her to go STEM. It was easier for her to get into a university STEM program. The profs and TAs and everyone helped her more. etc etc etc
I would take an asian male CS over a black woman anyday, (all other things roughly equal) because I know that that race / sex combo didn't get any help in school.
It's like the uncomfortable example of doctors. The AAMC used to publish data about med school acceptance. (they stopped doing so by race a few years ago, I assume because it was very politically uncomfortable). if you look at the data, black people get accepted way easier to med school, and with way lower scores.
So knowing that, are they worse doctors? I don't know. But I do know that statistically they were not as smart/educated at the very least when they were accepted into med school, I'm not sure about the data from residency matching.
Would I did not go to a black doctor? Of course not, and one of the best teachers I've ever had in the hospital has been black.
But I can't forget the data, which holds true overall even if individual examples deviate.
Mangasbzo7 5y ago
There was a more rigorous study of this posted on here a few months back. They found 60% of women were fucking the top 20% of men.
Then when you extrapolate that proportion to the wider population it works out as the top 50% of men are fucking all the women, in other words the bottom 50% of men consistently have nothing but their dicks in their hands
SKRedPill 5y ago
Damn, that's the most accurate measurement of the RP Pareto principle ever.
El_Serpiente_Roja 5y ago
This why you have to hit it hard in real life, nature intended certain advantages for men in reality to offset unhinged hypergamy. This swipe/like/comment picture shit is rigged for women in a big way.
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
Agreed but you can hit it hard and still fail, you do however, have to try to have a chance.
I think this is why women like testosterone, because more risks means more chances for success. And why they walk away the moment you fail.
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AwakenedSovereign 5y ago
I wonder how much game awareness amongst women is contributing to this, because it's true.
Most of my pulls don't come off approaches or sets. They come off of me bouncing around social environments, having fun with my friends, and ignoring bitches until one puts herself in the pocket for a pickup.
omega_dawg93 5y ago
the classic, "intro/ignore" has always worked for me.
show up smiling, introduce myself to the fellas... kinda smile/wave at the ladies present, then ignore the ladies while having fun with the fellas watching the games, etc.
you'll notice that amongst a sea of thirsty, try-hard guys, ignoring them makes you stand out.
if none of the ladies throw choosing signals, fuck it... you're having a good time anyway.
AwakenedSovereign 5y ago
Yup.
I went to a bar having a D&D event a couple months back. The game-runners (DMs) would go up and talk to everyone to try and get them into their game.
I noticed this one redhead by the bar, talking to some nerd. I walked to and said "hi". She says hi back, asks me if I'm a DM trying to snipe her for a game.
I just smile and say "nope". Shoot her down with some finger gun action and walk away. Go back to talking to random and my friends.
She ends up walking away from the people she was talking to 5-10 min later, drops her drink, purse and jacket on the barstool next to mine. Closed it.
omega_dawg93 5y ago
that's how it's done dude.
women like a challenge too, and even tho they want us to pursue, we can't come off as desperate.
my crazy uncle would always say: "the easiest way to get a woman is to act like you don't want her."
marlowe101 5y ago
Not surprising at all. It's a reflection of hypergamy.
If you want to grow as a man, stop using tinder. Work on your real life game skills. Even if you get rejected by 5 women in 10 min. then that experience alone is better than having 10 matches a week.
Thotasaurus_Rex 5y ago
I've managed to get my profile into the top 5% of male profiles based on match rate. Why would I not use tinder when it's a constant and unending stream of pussy?
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
I've never used tinder. I don't mind real life rejection. You just gotta get one.
CollaterLDamage 5y ago
if your looking for alternate avenues of sex, theres no reason not too. if you are putting high effort into anything but the initial profile, go outside. unless youre ugly, you have no reason to limit yourself
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Someone successful at Tinder would not be saying to stop using it
Just saying
MrBougus2 5y ago
They most likely don't really post about it on any kind of forum or subreddit either. . .
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There'd be no need to (unless they are legends like OmLaLa)
Zech4riah 5y ago
Yes, but every (high value) man should try tinder at least once just to see the brutal reality of online dating which gives you a nice boost to approach IRL.
It really surprises you when average girls, who would never reject you IRL, rejects you at tinder which happens a lot.
I use tinder rejections as a fuel for my irl cold approach. I think: "There is a hot girl, it would be almost impossible to get her out from tinder but here you can meet her right away".
Opioidus 5y ago
I have never tried this cuckery and I will never, ever do. My game is 90% charm, none of which I can demonstrate online. I would rather go to the shittiest towns for pick up in the world like Toronto or DC. When you can look a woman in the eyes and tell her stories of your adventures and tease her, that's game for you.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Lmao If you’re being rejected on dating apps then sorry bud you ain’t high value. I use dating apps as a way to jerk off to myself. It’s a self esteem boost - not the other way around
TheRedLadle 5y ago
For me it went the other way - after having relied on tinder for years, once I actually started going out and speaking to girls, it amazed me how receptive women were to me, especially ones I would have thought out of my league based on my tinder experience.
BumblingBeta 5y ago
Are they giving you their numbers, going on dates with you, and having sex with you? Women will act friendly with people who strike up conversations with them in real life, just out of politeness. It's another thing to actually get them to fuck you. Something you probably haven't done with any of these women, let's face it.
TheRedLadle 5y ago
Are you that insecure that you can't accept some random stranger on the internet who you know absolutely nothing about might be more successful with women than you?
BumblingBeta 5y ago
If you had sex with these women (or at least kissed them), fair play to you. But there's too many armchair alphas around these parts, so I'm doubtful. And you worded it in such a way that makes it ambiguous: "amazed me how receptive women were to me" that could mean anything. It could mean they fucked you, it could just mean they had a friendly conversation with you, with no possibility of ever wanting to fuck you.
TheRedLadle 5y ago
I'm not pretending I started talking to women and am now getting laid 3+ times a week. I'm far from alpha, but aiming/hoping to get there. I've had a few lays and a few more make outs from going out and talking to girls but am miles behind a lot of people on here.
I'll admit, I think a lot of the success I've experienced has been from putting myself in the right place at the right time, plus I'm Irish and live in England so I've an accent which definitely helps. The accent is something that doesn't really come across on Tinder.
mrp_awakening 5y ago
A high value man (by looks) wont see a brutal experience. They'll be part of the 20% that all women are fighting for.
Pestilence1911 5y ago
Tinder is easymode. Im not the most interesting, or in shape guy but i slay on tinder.
Its mostly p2p, and i havent bought recently so im not having as many matches.
Zech4riah 5y ago
True, maybe I should have used wording "humbling experience".
FederalAnxiety 5y ago
Imo you have to be top 2% to really have your pick on Tinder, at least without boosting. I've checked Tinder from the women's perspective in my area, I'm solidly in the top 10%. If I use a fake picture of a jacked model, I get literally 10x the matches. Girls are so fucking picky online you wouldn't believe it
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
You shouldn’t be using tinder anyways. Only trash girls there now.
FederalAnxiety 5y ago
A few years ago it used to be great. I used to get lots of high quality matches even with shitty pictures. Now days unless you're 10/10, it's pay to play, and 99% of the women are trashy sluts. Tinder seems to be degenerating into its final hoe market form.
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Bumble is a fair bit better, but they've just introduced a boost feature too, so that too will be pay to play from this point on.
Praeda18 5y ago
Agreed. From 2014-2017 Tinder was brilliant, averaging around 200 matches p/month being picky. Good photos showing muscles, tattoos, motorbike, friends, hobbies etc. Girls were receptive, keen to chat and meet, but most importantly the girls were of above-average quality at best. As of late 2017, down to about 70-90 matches a month, girls are much less receptive & expect to be entertained with pick-up lines and worshipped. 5’s, 6’s & 7’s acting like 10’s. Better photos, uggos asking for a ride on the moto or looking for a “temp bf for social events” without offering anything in return (really easy way to make a quick $100 if you’re a chad btw). Also the girls who hit you up, coming out of the gate with openers such as “other than being dreamy, what else do you do?”. Similar to how women have to deal with loser men hitting them up on the reg, 20%’ers have to deal with the plethora of loser women. It’s unnerving being out with a woman and having other girls glare at you and/or your date, or men mate-guarding their missos and being overall dickheads because you’re perceived as being a threat. People in general were much friendlier and easy-going when i was a skinny teenager with clean skin. No issues with the quality/caliber of chicks on the app so long as you have realistic expectations with what you’re dealing with. You’re not going to find da wun & only on an online dating (hook-up) app. Tinder isn’t degenerating, the supply of cooch on the market is at an all time high but smart investors have already cashed out..so now we have a surplus of pussy that wants to be lead & told what to do, whilst at the same time resenting 80% of men for being weak. Even attempting to train up a 7 or 8 as LTR material is a fools game at this point.
BumblingBeta 5y ago
You're complaining at 70-90 matches a month? hahahaha that must be a joke/troll, right? Most guys are lucky to get above 0 matches. I got 2 matches right at the beginning (who didn't reply to my opening message), now I've had 0 matches for months now.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Hinge is the best in my experience. I match with 95% of the girls I swipe right on and I’m selective.
Tinder is mostly hoes and street rats. I right swipe maybe 1 in 30 girls there. And it’s all pay to play if you’re a guy due to numbers
FederalAnxiety 5y ago
Never heard of it. Thanks, I'll check it out.
yumyumgivemesome 5y ago
Unless that high value man is in the top 20% of the top 20%, then he is competing with only the bottom 20% of that 80% of women. I've had plenty of success on Tinder and other dating apps (and most likely not in the top 20% of the top 20%), but I could still see the reality of the comment above yours in my experience.
Philhelm 5y ago
I think that the issue is that since there is such a higher male to female ratio online than in reality, even the top 20% men will find themselves to be a lesser option to the woman when online, due to numerical competition.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Yep. In that boat myself and dating apps are an ego stroke for me.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Wanna have well done photos, too. My photos get 8.5 to 9.4 on Photofeeler, but because they are lazy selfies, I struggle on Tinder. I really can't be bothered making better placed photos just for on-line dating.
Well_hung_Yakuza 5y ago
Provided that you are above average looking, fun photos and photos that project social status are always < professional photos.
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TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
Yeah it's definitely the top 5% of men on tinder that get all of the matches and interest. I'm over a 9 on hot or not, and I match with less than 1/20 women on tinder.
The fact is, women will reject 1,000 perfectly decent and good looking men, if they feel they have a chance of getting Chad to commit.
mrp_awakening 5y ago
So is the study OP linked flawed? The study confirmed it was ~20%. Hate to break it to you man, but you're likely under that threshold. You got some work to do.
Haven't used tinder myself (married... yeah I know), but the other day I threw some pictures of me up on one of the male equivalents of gonewild just for shits and giggles. The picture was fully clothed, but the shirt was tight/revealing. In an hour or so I had a ton of inbox replies. Women trying to sext. Women sending nudes. Etc... It's eye opening to see how aggressive women can be when they find you attractive. The other interesting observation was how discreet they'll be even when already anonymous. Almost all replies were PM's... very few comments. Even from obvious throwaway accounts which had no comment/post history (but were 5 yrs old). Women were writing long detailed sexts, and all it took to keep it going was short 4-5 word replies. It was all just straight up confirmation of red pill truths.
For reference though, I'm 5'10", 178 lbs, 10% BF. It's not uncommon for me to catch women staring at me during the day or trying to flirt with me unprovoked.
anothdae 5y ago
FTFY.
But I agree with your point.
Adding to it, the top 20% of tinder men aren't necessarily the most attractive. They are attractive, but they have something that other guys do not.
A picture that is perfect, that catches everyone's eye, along with a perfectly worded thing about them.
That can be the thing that every woman goes for... it makes the break between top 20% and bottom 80.
thisiswhyicant 5y ago
The key is to take some stupid ass pictures. The majority of guys have the same pictures. Do something different to standout and you’ll see a huge increase in matches. Worked for me
mrp_awakening 5y ago
Yeah, that's the same as peacocking. Show you're different and not afraid of social judgement.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
The IDGAF attitude is what causes the tingles since pre-civilization.
thisiswhyicant 5y ago
That’s the word I’ve been looking for. I totally forgot the term, thanks!
My first picture is me wearing daisy dukes and leaving over the fender of my blazer looking back at the camera and that reels in most chicks. Second pic is me sitting on my 80 z28 in American flag weight lifting pants. My other pictures suck, but those two are enough. I ain’t even all that pretty to tell the truth, but I’ve had no trouble getting 8-9s and they always say it’s because of the pictures. Hook them with the pics, them hit them with the BDE. I shouldn’t have had as much success as I’ve gotten but that’s fine with me
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Yeah, I agree with you guys. Have to stand out. I replied with the same a little below this, but I just can't be fucked making photos that stand out. If I search myself, the only reason would be for approval and validation. I'm just not motivated to do it for ME, and that's what matters.
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mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Photofeeler is useless. You're mainly being graded by ugly fat women. I've had photos all get 97%+ that led to no matches on Tinder.
Photos that get matches will not score well on Photofeeler, because one element not graded on Photofeeler is emotion. Do your pictures cause any emotional reaction? They have to, to get matches
yumyumgivemesome 5y ago
This has been very true for me. This girl I'm dating showed me what her Bumble page looks like. We could scroll endlessly through guys that have already swiped right on her. While we were scrolling, she would click into profiles only when someone caught her attention. She scrolled past dozens of guys that I thought she surely would've wanted to take a closer look at. First, it showed me how important the 1st profile pic truly is. Second, when talking about why she looked at my profile, it basically came down to the expression on my face that she found intriguing because it was difficult for her to read. In other words, maybe I barely exceeded her threshold of looks, and then it was basically sheer luck that she even clicked into my profile in the first place.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
I posted a pic of me in a Trump hat on tinder for fun . Had a lot of liberal girls that wanted to "hatefuck" me.
evilassaultweapon 5y ago
You mean change their mind in the morning?
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
Yeah I'm actually married with kids and was just testing the waters and using it for dreadgame fuel, I don't meetup with girls from tinder. I'm trying to get the wife to do some kinky shit in bed recently and am in need of a boost.
Mandatory disclaimer: - don't ever get married with a state-issued marriage license.
evilassaultweapon 5y ago
Well, that's one way to do it. As for the Tinder girls, really? Multiple girls saying they want to fuck you because they hate Trump? I'm having trouble visualizing how their messages would read. It's like a damned cartoon lol.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Yeah, I get what you're saying and agree. I honestly can't be fucked giving a shit, though. Anything I would do to make my photos better would totally just be for validation or attention. I can't think of a single reason why it would be for me, if I'm honest about my motivation with myself.
Looking good and dressing well in real life is for me, so I can do that.
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empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Cmon bro, pick your battles. This one ain’t it.
billybetasnan 5y ago
Online dating is for waste cadets.
I'd rather just speak to a women that seems interesting on the street if I am in the mood lol.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Spoken like someone who is a total failure at Tinder and Bumble
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billybetasnan 5y ago
It's not my fault you're too insecure to approach women. You sound like the failure G
Imperator_Red 5y ago
But you just admitted that you are the failure.
tchower 5y ago
Looks like woman believe in inequality more than men naturally. Another reason why feminism is stupid. Lol
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TechRedRaider88 5y ago
Eh wait 10 years - Then the numbers will have switched
wastedlifez 5y ago
U gotta be fucking kidding me, right? I made a fake tinder account with a 38 year old woman, within 2 days I had 700 matches.
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Do u understand that? Women do NOT hit the wall, their sexual value is higher than guys all life for fuck sake.
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Its insane how much u "red pillers" actually blue pill urself, jesus christ.
fistinggirls4free 5y ago
Why do you say this? Genuinely curious
adminsaregayniggers 5y ago
because the top 20% of 30+ men sure as shit aren't competing for 30+ women lmao
c4toyourdoornobeef 5y ago
Because women hit the wall. Their smv goes down while men's either stays the same or increases. Now the ball is in your court.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Yep, that is IF you take care of yourself. But women in their 30s have no power - none - in the dating market. It’s great to experience
Angry_runt 5y ago
Fake news. https://incels.is/threads/women-hit-the-wall-at-40-bro-is-the-biggest-cope-ever-mgtowcels-gtfih.74693/
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Nope. Get off weird incel boards and get dating experience
wastedlifez 5y ago
Hahah what? Women in their 30s have THOUSANDS of matches for fuck sake. I just talked to a girl who was 42 and had 1600 matches in 3 weeks on tinder.
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Do u understand that? Women dont "hit the wall", thats a fucking coping red pill myth and its NOT TRUE at all.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
oh it's you again. Clearly you dont have dating experience if you havent seen the dynamic change.
c4toyourdoornobeef 5y ago
Well hopefully it's a given that men looks after themselves in their 30's+ since they're already reading this sub.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Absolutely. But a loser in his 20s will be a loser in his 30s if they don’t make changes. Good news is your competition gets worse in terms of looks as you age
c4toyourdoornobeef 5y ago
I wouldn't say "looks" is what declines. Like obviously they do but it's more of a lifestyle decline which leads to the decrease of looks. ie instead of hitting the gym and having active hobbies, you now spend the majority of your days drinking beer and watching sport on tv.
ScribeThoth 5y ago
A lot of younger men don’t know, but your desirability also peaks at around age 45.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/
wastedlifez 5y ago
Eh no, not for actually fucking hot young women LOL
ScribeThoth 5y ago
They especially want men with a wallet.
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PerfectNemesis 5y ago
Competing? More like taking turns with the top 78% of women.
hardtruths2019 5y ago
The top 20% of men on tinder are not competing for anything. They are enjoying the plethora of pussy throwing itself at them. I’m 99% of them are not looking for a relationship out of it so there is no competition at all, they are just passing around a bunch of delusional thots Who think that their ugly asses deserve a 10/10 man with a six-figure salary and a 12 inch cock.
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ScorseseTheGoat86 5y ago
https://youtu.be/RV9ZGRt6H9I relevant
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BlindingTwilight 5y ago
Great to see statistical confirmation of everything we already knew. If you want to get laid on Tinder then you had better be in the top 20%. If you are not in the top 20% you need to consider other tactics. Of course you lift, dress well etc but that will not get every guy into the top 20%. If you are short and you have bad genes then game is your best tool. If your game is very tight then you will be able to get laid with hot women. So how do you game if you are not in the top 20%? Numbers, you approach like a motherfucker. You learn tight game, you improve your status through your social ranking or your lifestyle. Go forth and slay
MMDT 5y ago
Keep in mind this is only for MATCHES. Even a lot of these will be no responses, one word replies, ghosts, girl just looking for attention etc.
Realistically you probably need to be in the top 5% on tinder to be regularly meeting girls
bsutansalt 5y ago
Maybe even higher than that in all actuality. Look at the comparisons of response rates on OK Cupid. The top 10% of guys still only got the kind of attention average rated women got. You've really got to get up in to that top sliver of male attractiveness to get the kind of attention "good looking" women in the 7-8 range get.
No man on earth will ever get the kind of attention women who are true 9s and 10s get. And yes that includes your Brad Pitts and Leo DiCaprios. It just doesn't happen. They may have any woman they want, but in terms of response rates on the likes of Tinder... nope.
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unn4med 5y ago
How will they get any woman they want while still not having a high response rate at the same time?
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TechRedRaider88 5y ago
Great summary, that’s for that. And yes, essentially the article is a case study that reveals how men chase women when they’re in their 20’s, but when women get into their 30’s or 40’s their SMV drops drastically & they become increasingly desperate; hence way so many women signed up for the older age bracket event
wastedlifez 5y ago
No they dont, their standards increase in their 30s and 40s.
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You guys are so fucking blue pilled, I talked to a 42 year old yesterday, she had 1600 matches in 3 week, do u understand that? TONS of HOT YOUNG CHADS who wanted to fuck her.
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Females dont hit the wall, never.
max_peenor 5y ago
She's a wet hole accepting semen deposits. No one is saying that an old wet hole won't get used for depositing semen. The Wall doesn't close vaginal openings. It closes opportunities. None of these human fuck toys are going to get what they want--commitment from Chad.
BumblingBeta 5y ago
They only chase beta men in their 30's/40's for their money + stability, not because they actually find the man attractive. Beta men think they've finally hit the jackpot after all those years, but it's actually because she's settling after not being able to lock down an alpha, not because she actually likes you. Have you not heard anything Rollo Tomassi says on this subject? Clearly not.
wastedlifez 5y ago
Exactly, red pillers cope so fucking much, they think that they will "Get all the women when they hit 40!", NO, they just get a few gold digging women who have been fucked and used up by Chad for 20 years LOL
BumblingBeta 5y ago
Exactly. It is misleading to say a man's SMV peak is in his late 30's. Yeah, but only because women view you as a provider because you make more money in your career.
Terdmuffin 5y ago
Wow it's almost like the whole 80/20 thing has some merit.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
If you’re a guy and reading this then this is GOOD news for you. It means there’s more reward at the top. You think you want to bust your ass to be top 10% only to have a few women to choose from?
Fuck no, strive to be the best. And any man short of disfiguration can be top 20%. Hit the gym, lift, dress well, find a cool hobby, you’re there. And let me tell you - it’s worth it.
Your competition is weak. Work on yourself and you’ll be glad that women only go for 20% of men
wastedlifez 5y ago
No, any man can NOT be in the 20% LOL, it is 100% based on facial structure which is GENETIC.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
cope and absolutely pathetic. I went from being a kissless virgin dweeb to being the guy that women come up to at bars to ask out and having hundreds of matches on any dating app at a time. Yea I'm tall but my face overall is average.
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Getting built from lifting and diet, being witty, and having cool interests that you show on your profile will carry you the distance.
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But keep on keeping on with that loser mentality
GoingToMakeItBrahs 5y ago
So true, this is why all tolerate the bullshit. For a chance to get to the top!
CaptainBW 5y ago
Tinder is the “attention/validation” real life video game for women. For every 10 matches with chicks you actually wanna fuck, 1-2 will be genuinely easy sluttygirlz. I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. I think every man should try it out at least for the purpose of viewing the current landscape. It’s almost enlightening. They’re pretty much the same entity that’s been copied and pasted over and over in different bodies, and then the hypergamy algorithm runs on top of that. AWALT.
RightHandWolf 5y ago
I thought there were only 12 Cylon models . . .
redpillcad 5y ago
Top comment in Twitter Thread:
These are just the facts of life
Which one of you shitlords posted that?
jonpe87 5y ago
Last week I matched with a girl
(I'm good looking, my new account has 400+ matchs and 99+ people that liked me but I can't see
I can have like 20+ matchs in a new account in the first day
My bio is like this: 31yo, 5,11.. 1 billion matchs and no interesting girls)
Than this pretty FACE girl messages me, I go to see the photos of that pretty face: Fat, a lot of tattoos, even with all that makeup and photoshop she was at best a 5. The first photo had so much alteration that didnt look like her at all. She send me the follow message: Wow, 1 billion of matchs! I have only 16XX ... this 5 whale had 1600+ matchs... I cant even imagine how delusional the standarts of those girls are, they all think they are 10ns.. I wouldn't fuck this girl even if she paid me
kez88 5y ago
probably what every hot chick on tinder thinks when you try start a convo with them
I_am_Groot69 5y ago
I don't use tinder can some one tell me does tinder have pay to win feature?
Like as a male you get matched more if you pay money?
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mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
I think Tinder gold is worth it for the ability to see who liked you, and boosting helps, but overall no you don't have to pay to win
BigMadLad 5y ago
I have more information for you:
The problem alluded to above is that men use tinder constantly where as many women use it very sparingly when they lack attention as sort of a free confidence boost. A good example is that I liked a girl a while back (3+ months) during winter break who goes to NDST, but is from California. She just swiped right on me now (presumably because she is feeling lonely in ND), but there is nothing I can do as she is 1500 + miles away. If only she used it normally
Zexxify 5y ago
I used tinder for a couple of months back in 2016. Two girls added me on instagram months later saying they found me on tinder and that they just matched up with me, so yeah most of the girls use it that way in my opinion
SpiritStatic 5y ago
No "Pay to Win" — but you can get these in-app credits called "Super Likes" that basically bonk a girl over the head with an alert that you like her, so she can skip swiping through the stack of schmoes and decide whether she'll raise the gate for you or not.
You get 1 per day..but Tinder definitely incentives you to spend $4.99 at a time to get 5 a pop. It can add up real quick. You'll get suckered in, thinking, "Oh I really want to match with this girl, and she'll never see me because the pool is so saturated...!"
On the one hand, it increases your visibility, and when I was an active user I got quite a few acceptances to my Super Likes and dates that came out of it.
On the other hand, it inadvertently reeks of thirst...even if there is a logical reason why you have to do it to get VIEWED, it still can come across as needy or even desperate to certain women.
All in all, I left Tinder because I really felt like they had a powerful algorithm that was making massive profit off of the pitiful optimism of men...and that the swiping functionality was kind of ruined the moment that the user base exploded the way it did. Seeing 1 profile at a time is just a slow process.
Tinder is kind of like a grab bag, it can be fun to see what you're going to get. You might get something "good" or you might get nothing at all.
The trouble is when you start spending a lot of cash on grab bags or you notice that you have a bit of a gambling problem and are spending a lot of time at the "Casino" if you follow my metaphor.
I was an early adopter to Tinder, dating back to its first year. Before all of the TRP'ers put their guides together and whatnot. I was super bluepilled when I started, but it was actually TRP that shifted my mindset into wanting to leave.
I learned a lot and had a lot of fun. It's a fine supplement to your game, but I do not consider it to be a valid a substitute for it.
That was probably more information than you bargained for.
u-r-silly 5y ago
95% of my matches were Super Likes. For some people there really is a benefit of having the women open up and read your description. But that's also because I targeted the ones who are likely to do this and like back. All the dates that came out of it were quality moment.
That said, it might be because the demography of the userbase isn't the same everywhere in the world.
300C 5y ago
When I was using Tinder, almost every girl I met up with was from a super like.
I_am_Groot69 5y ago
Thank you for taking the time to write all these info, I would have give gold but sub does not allow.
I expected more from tinder, seems they are using all the psy tricks just to make short term cash like mobile games. Time to research how tinder was founded.
SpiritStatic 5y ago
Wow thank you. And I'm glad you found some value in all the information — I had a long history with Tinder and all of the swiping apps, so I like being able to share my experience and have it benefit anyone else in some way.
That's kind of the thing though; Tinder didn't start off like that. But you are absolutely right to compare it to a mobile game, many of the same psychological tricks are indeed part of the experience. In marketing-speak we call it "gamification" which is kind of a goofy word, but you get the idea.
They've turned it into a game that strings you along in order to keep engagements higher. Tinder really started changing for me when I realized how many advertisements the free version had. Basically forced you to pay for Tinder Plus, at least. Many use Tinder Gold because there's a conspiracy that you're basically invisible without it.
Tinder only wants to give you a little reward here and there — just long enough to keep you in the game.
And the "Swipe in another city" feature? Very clever way to keep people swiping even after they've exhausted everyone in their zip and got that "Nobody is around you" message... with swiping in another city, you can get an even higher SCORE. Think of all the matches you could get over in Miami or Dallas...will it come to any fruition? Maybe..maybe not... that's the game Tinder wants you to play, and it's making them actually billionaires — valued at $3Billion on its own.
Lithium- 5y ago
Yes, but you can abuse it.
Basically, if you pay for one month, it bumps your 'tinder ELO' and puts you more to the front of the queue.
A mate of mine did this, and noticed he had a lot more hits. After he did that, he cancelled the payment feature and it seems to stick for a while.
I_am_Groot69 5y ago
Thanks man,
Not sure how complicated tinder's algorithm are but there are no incentive for tinder to make it a fair game then.
I mean, the man are paying the bucks.
SalporinRP 5y ago
The entire app is now designed to get you to pay for gold. Gone are the days when you could swipe right and get 20-30 matches a day with dtf girls.
I've moved onto Hinge now. Much much better.
I_am_Groot69 5y ago
most tech companies work like this now.
free to play -> get a bunch of users -> pay to win -> profit
masterpiece00 5y ago
Do not use Tinder, stop feeding the vapid head cases and shining their egos even further.
Rent a hot escort and get on with your week, that is how you disrupt this game.
BumblingBeta 5y ago
That's called negotiated desire. Fucking you because you paid for her, not because she actually wants to fuck you. No man wants that, although most men have to put up with it because they are average looking betas.
masterpiece00 5y ago
It's all negotiated desire, you think you or anyone is on a forum for mens strategy for how to fuck a women are getting it (if any) from non negotiated desire? If it wasn't women would BE APPROACHING US and we wouldn't have do to the clown act and jump through 10 hoops all for her to swipe left and leave us in the corner.
You are paying for women with your time and money and getting strung along anyway, might as well flip the game and stop feeding their egos, fuck a escort, be done and get on with your mission.
Every man here is an average looking beta, the alphas are fucking all the 7-10's right now.
BumblingBeta 5y ago
Well many people on this forum sure do talk like they're getting non negotiated desire regularly. Although I suspect it's just a bunch of armchair alphas.
ThrowFader 5y ago
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BumblingBeta 5y ago
It's kind of sad that the ones who get the most pussy, don't actually give out their secrets. So it becomes one big circle jerk of guys who are getting little/no pussy sharing their ideas with each other and keeping everyone in a perpetual state of being unsuccessful with women.
ThrowFader 5y ago
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WhiteGhosts 5y ago
need $$$ to do that fam
most of us are poor
masterpiece00 5y ago
Less expensive than wining and dining whores in the chance they sleep with you.
darksidessj25 5y ago
This is why I deleted my dating apps. It's pointless. Real life is wear it's at people. Wake the fuck up. I get a lot of eye-contact and approach signals when I go out and these girls are gorgeous. I paid for Tinder Gold and got matched with fucking bots. Luckily it was only 1 month. This made me feel like shit but later that day I went out and dressed with style and got noticed by 8 girls who where all pretty. 1 flirted with and was throwing me signals. I know my own fucking value and I don't need Tinder's fucking swipe right validation These fuckers should get sued for manipulating men into paying for there god damn piece of shit app. By the way I have evidence on my phone. Women do not base shit on looks like we do. They base shit of sub communication. Looks and style do play a little role but not that much. We men are visual. That's why Tinder works for us and not Women. Once you been in Game for about a year you will understand this concept and how attraction really works. Sorry if I piss anyone off. This is the fucking truth.
wastedlifez 5y ago
Stop the blue pill nonsense lol, "Game" is so fucking dead, women dont give a SHIT about your "muh subcommunication", she literally got MODEL LOOKNG CHADS in her PHONE to choose from whenever she wants dick.
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U guys better catch up with time and stop this fucking "game" coping.
darksidessj25 5y ago
Maybe I am a CHAD and never new it. I never knew about eye-contact at what it meant because people kept on suppressing me. I get eye-contact a lot now to the point where I don't even have to try. I guess I am then shit. Sorry for the Game BS. Maybe we should just stick with flirting for now on lol.
TechRedRaider88 5y ago
Cuz it reverses when people are in there 30’s & 40’s, this article is great example:
https://www.capebretonpost.com/news/local/speed-dating-event-in-membertou-cancelled-due-to-lack-of-men-283597/
RightHandWolf 5y ago
Good find! The interesting thing from the article is that the wall is also confirmed. All of the stats were heavily skewed towards the female participation, with women outnumbering men almost 5:1 in the over 30 bracket and 8:1 in the senior age group. In the 19-30 age bracket, 8 men signed up for the event, but 0 females. This would make an interesting study if those men could be tracked over the next 10 years. How many would take the red pill? How many would go MGTOW? How many would decide to go the foreign outsourcing route since the species Americanus Cuddlebunnus have priced themselves out of the market?
PS2Errol 5y ago
Why would any men sign up to potentially date women age 35-40?
BumblingBeta 5y ago
Why not? They're women at the end of the day, as long as you avoid committing to some big ass relationship or marriage, it's all good.
In the real world, 35-40 women do not look that much different to women in their 20's. Their priorities for a man changes, but that's more or less it.
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valenin 5y ago
What do the absolute numbers look like? If 20% of men is a smaller absolute number than 78% of women, it’s not those men competing for women as the article frames it.
Tarmyniatur 5y ago
Obviously more men use dating apps than women.
hardly_incognito 5y ago
I've had moderate success with Tinder, but here's the catch:
Don't give a fuck about Tinder.
It's a dating app. I'd say I have a high SMV (fit, good looks, high paying job) and I get ignored by most of my matches with my first message.
Again, it's the internet. You have to completely detach from it. I do my 5 super likes every other day then forget about it.
If you're a guy looking to get laid. Go lift. Then focus on improving weak aspects of your life, and most importantly - approach. It never gets "easy", I'm no approach guru. But I've had my best experiences with women on the fly, heart pounding, just walking up to them and blabbing some shit.
Tinder has to be something you do on the side, like fucking candy crush. Put some time into getting a handful of good pics, write a simple af bio, then give it no more than 5 mins of your life daily.
PM me and I'll link a highly up-voted guide I got from this subreddit. After you've laid the foundation, if you're working on yourself, living life, etc. Just accumulate some pictures and slowly rotate them in to better fill-out your profile.
Andgelyo 5y ago
+1. Great advice, Tinder is absolutely shit nowadays. I used to get way more matches but barely match with girls nowadays. The best way is to use it as supplementation
illusiveab 5y ago
Online dating is a massive Nash equilibrium
teveza11 5y ago
Women only want the best genes.
Technology has allowed them and those with the very best genes to have access to each other.
The other 80% of men's life quality has drastically reduced as a result.
wastedlifez 5y ago
This, yet red pillers keep coping with "The muh wall!", LOL the wall dont fucking happen, women who are 39 are on tinder getting dicked down by men who are 25 and young and hot.
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Guys cope so fucking much, insanity.
teveza11 5y ago
So true, the wall doesn't happen.
As men, we just can't admit the sexual superior balance of power that women have over us.
Women in the their late 30s also start being aggressive and talking to hot younger men and know they usually won't be rejected.
NikolaGeorgiev 5y ago
I would say it's 20% IRL and 5% in Tinder.
adminsaregayniggers 5y ago
yes, but only because the top 5% in tinder is only equivalent to top 20% IRL (high value men don't use it)
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Tinder is broken because so many guys pay to play to speak. If you’re even top 20% no one sees your profile
Zech4riah 5y ago
Those numbers IRL are kind of irrelevant because you can have such a great impact by only having a good game.
But with tinder, I kind of agree with you. Or I would twist numbers a bit more to like. Top 5-10% of men go for top 60% of women. Because the bottom 40% of women are invisible for top 5-10% men.
wastedlifez 5y ago
Lol, having "Game" is dead, it doesnt exist no more. Girls dont give a SHIT about ur game no more, cause game is basicly getting the girl to chasing ur validation. Guess what? She dont need your validation no more cause she got THOUSANDS of BETTER LOOKING and higher status men to choose from, in her pocket.
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The red pill is blue pill these days, u guys havent yet accepted that its fucking over for 95% of men, game or not.
Zech4riah 5y ago
Considering your message history. I think you have some issues. Get some help m8.
nicethingyoucanthave 5y ago
This is true. Being confident, or even just being funny, goes a long way in real life, but it's difficult to advertise those qualities online.
NikolaGeorgiev 5y ago
I would say on Tinder it's only looks and money. So if you are not great with those - tough luck.
Btw, it was not like that 5 years ago.
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ArtDeve 5y ago
Not scientifically valid "study" at all. Sample size of only 27.
I don't think it as extreme as 80/20.. but my only experience with it is in a relatively small town.
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zatham 5y ago
Can anyone cite the original source for what she quoted in her tweet? my interest is piqued.
Bazino 5y ago
Stupid question, but how is this "competing" when they can statistically choose 5 girls EACH without crossing each other?
I'd say that the top 5% of them are competing for the top 25% of women more probably, while 15% are probably okay just pumping 26%-78% day after day.
(Also if men would just adhere to the same standards women have, then the game would become easier for everybody, but that's another topic.)
whattodotrp 5y ago
I had checked the replies on the feed and was disappointed to see only one person mentioned hypergamy or 80/20 rule...
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Aggressive_Beta 5y ago
I paid to use Okcupid premium for a month because it gave me access to advanced filtering features. I could tell it to only show me women who answered specific questions a certain way.
For example I’d have it only show girls who gave red flag answers to certain important questions, then I’d automatically hide all of the results. Women who admitted to having more than 14 sex partners? Automatic hide. Admitting to having an STD? Automatic hide. Etc.
This narrowed down my search results significantly. Out of the women that were left who still met all of my basic filtering criteria (age, height, distance, etc), I just indiscriminately messaged all of them. Any time one would respond, I’d manually comb through her profile looking for red flags. If I couldn’t find any then I’d respond to her.
Point is that $10 or whatever saved me way more than $10 worth of my time, and it worked. It’s a combination of process of elimination and then the numbers game.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Gold is absolutely worth it for the ability to see who has already liked you.
It allows you to not have to swipe(which men can't help from doing and risks you getting sent to the spam queue) and allows you to get the ball rolling on your schedule, and timing is everything
Jabbermouth 5y ago
I agree that Gold is worth it if you’re a top 20% man or at least working to get there. However, if you are super cheap or a broke college student like me, then use the Budget Tinder Gold Strategy™️ - When you see the 10+ or 25+ indicator for tinder gold, go to your settings and put your radius down to 1 mi and then start swiping. Every profile farther than a mile has swiped right on you and will be a guaranteed match.
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Don_Himself 5y ago
these 80% of women that these 20%ers are getting are women who have gotten used and abused by 50+ men already and who have an addiction to drugs/weed. vast majority of them also overweight, with obnoxious tats as well.
why?
because no woman actually worth a damn would stoop so low as to use tinder and give the common folk hope of scoring her, it's offensive. not even to "see whats out there"
they know theyre eggs are expensive, and that sperm is cheap.
theyre getting their Alpha-fix at parties, events, raves, colleges, even out in supermarkets/libraries/coffee shops. because theyre sexy aesthetic will motivate alphas to approach them in person and make shit happen.
in short, delete tinder, go swipe right on hoes IRL. dating apps are just an illusion built to keep the dumb goyim busy. dont be one of them.
wastedlifez 5y ago
Eh what? Almost EVERY young hot girl is using tinder these days, u are coping hardcore buddy LOL
Don_Himself 5y ago
this dickhead matched with 2 spambots that were using hot girls' pictures today and now according to him """ tinder is full of sexy women brah """
please delete yourself u absolute fucking simpleton
wastedlifez 5y ago
This is what blue pill cope looks like, fucking grandpa, u obviously have NO FUCKING IDEA what hot women in their 20s are doing today LOL
Don_Himself 5y ago
Yawn. You are of low IQ and are clearly a retarded incel paying for tinder plus/gold. Since your dad didn't stick around to raise your simp ass, i have no reason to further stick around arguing with your dumb ass either.
enjoy mindlessly swiping on bots that leave you on Seen/Read all day while hot girls actually go get dick at parties & events, dickhead
wastedlifez 5y ago
lol someone got triggered, this is what happen when u BLACK PILL red pillers, who are actually blue pilled as fuck.
"Muh I will peak when Im 49 .. and its over for women!!"
Meanwhile, at 49 ure a fat balding loser while women just get fake titties and is now a "MILF" who can fuck literally 5000 guys in 1 year if she wants.
Don_Himself 5y ago
you're still using """ blue/red pill """ nonironically
ur a cuck that has lent his ride to a girl u orbit which she used to drive to her boytoy's house to get fucked. dude has fucked her in YOUR car and u were stuck cleaning the mess he made after.
inb4 "at least i have a car and a female friend tho" LMFAOOOOOO excellently played gg
wastedlifez 5y ago
What, who are you even responding to? Are you drunk?
Don_Himself 5y ago
nah bro i fucked u up with that 1 smh u hurt right now smh "who r u talkin to" smh
wastedlifez 5y ago
Jesus christ u talk like a black person LOL, learn how to fucking express urself if u want anybody to understand what the fuck ure saying u low IQ mong ;)
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O--- 5y ago
While I agree that any woman on Tinder is automatically not marriage material, you seem to overestimate how low a woman needs to go to end up on Tinder.
chrisname 5y ago
Women who haven’t used tinder are pretty much unicorns.
adminsaregayniggers 5y ago
so are women actually worth a damn
Don_Himself 5y ago
women with lives i described (i.e., the truly attractive ones worth a damn) look at tinder and scoff. they think it's pathetic.
automatic display of low value
wastedlifez 5y ago
No they dont, u delusional fucking idiot. Im in a class in university, SUPER HOT GIRLS and EVERYONE have used or do use tinder.
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U must be some coping fucking old grandpa, jesus chist
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AlexDr0ps 5y ago
For a subreddit obsessed with being 'alpha', threads about dating apps catered entirely towards empowering women and providing them with even more SMP leverage than they already have sure do come up a lot, huh