Some guys don't realize that the more feminine a woman, the more bitchy, naggy she can be. It is up to you, as a man to control her. Despite what all these feminists say about being a "controlling" boyfriend is bad, women DO want to be controlled. They want to find a man who they can surrender to and who will tell them "NO".
If you're the type to let the woman take control, then be prepared to be met with only masculine women.
The more I read trp, the more I start to realise why my mother loved and listened my father in every situation, regardless of how he treated her sometimes.
Feminine women only. I was raised there and been to Ukraine multiple times. I would say that all eastern european women have the same tendencies for feminine behaviour and traditionalism and that’s fucking amazing. When I hear some westerners complain about girls there being gold diggers It makes me laugh. This happens only because that’s the type of women that westerners attract especially if they come for a short period of time.
And now after 5 years in the capital of damaged women - Toronto, I can 100% guarantee that there is an insane difference in quality of women. From appearance to character. Russian women are better at everything. The only good thing about western women is that they can bring money to the family as well. But again, are you looking for mother of your children and a housewife or a financial partner who can help you payoff mortgage?
Eastern European women still whore around when they move into the country capital from their small town, when traveling and when (they think) they can't get caught and judged. AWALT. But on average they are better than Western skanks who have been in open hypergamy mode since they were teenagers. But that is changing rapidly, the West now is what the East will look like in a generation. It's the culture that keeps them somewhat in check, not some different biological underpinning.
I was skeptical until I saw the name: Toronto. Everyone I meet from there is so worried about offending everyone. And it's the land of independent non-binary fat-positive womyn who don't need no man, but do need medication and therapy for their depression.
Going for sex or trophy wife? Bunch of Turkish guys fly to ukraine constantly just for sex. There are a bunch of sluts there as well, especially when you go to clubs but if you are black I think you will have hard time getting anything there. And I don’t think it’s safe for you either. Both men and women still have this mentality recognizing foreigners as a threat which is natural.
Yup, they have an extreme in-group preference, which makes sense considering how much the Russians fucked them over. Even North American whites will typically have a tough time and only the scraps. Add along to the fact that they still get married pretty young over there so the more desirable girls tend to be already taken.
Yup, they have an extreme in-group preference, which makes sense considering how much the Russians fucked them over. Even North American whites will typically have a tough time and only the scraps.
Lmao at your 'reality' video. Thanks for that, actually gave me a good laugh there from you thinking that's an accurate basis to go off.
Theres a lot to criticize so I'll keep it short and stick to the major points by order:
The fact that she speaks English, with a very American accent along with it. The guy also sounds American so wouldn't be surprised if she did some travelling aboard which will be outside the norm already. Most eastern Europeans dont speak English or poor english with a strong accent. Ofcourse your chances will be a lot better with someone more westernized or city based
Compared to other women in Kiev, like a 6, potentially a 7 if she lost a bit of weight. That city is a goldmine of beautiful women, so shes probably not getting that much attention from native attractive men which makes her seek out forgeiners. She talked about how Asian men treated white women better, that's just her female solipsism think her own personal experience reflects all women. If she was more attractive, I'm sure she would be treated just fine by white men.
Even in the comments section of the video a lot of guys mention that this can be the case with some girls in the city, but generally the rest of the country can be very hostile to non whites.
You're using a single counter example to attempt to disprove an ovbious large trend. It's similar to trying to say American isnt racist to black men because of one white women saying they love that (and use the same reasons the girl in the video did) Nah bitch, in general America is racist as fuck and the minority of white women tend to be pretty lower class or clout chaser trying to fuck rappers and athletes.
I'm not saying its impossible, I've light skinned arab and have been with a few eastern European girls such countries like Poland, Luthiania and Kazakhstan. The commonality between all of them were they all travelled, spoke decent English, were over 25, and we meet in western Europe where eastern Europeans are viewed like the Mexicans of America so the were already slightly lower status. If I had met them in their country, had been more darkly skinned, or they were a bit younger, I highly doubt those relationships would have happened. Hell, one girl was a borderline neonazi (she said she wasnt but she 'fell' into that circle because of her bf at the time) when she was in college.
This isnt to discourage you but I believe it's important to not delude yourself from reality. If you to end up visiting those countries and dont get success you think you should have compared to what you would have back home, dont take it to heart because theres a decent chance it was factors out of your control.
Does going to Eastern Europe for feminine women only work for whites?
You replied:
Yup, they have an extreme in-group preference, which makes sense considering how much the Russians fucked them over.
I just provided a counter example w/a(n) Asian guys. They are certainly not white.
Even in the comments section of the video a lot of guys mention that this can be the case with some girls in the city, but generally the rest of the country can be very hostile to non whites.
Yes, but going to Eastern Europe to get w/feminine women can work for non-whites too.
I'm not saying its impossible
That’s what I’m trying to get at. You made it seem like it wasn’t really possible earlier.
This isnt to discourage you but I believe it's important to not delude yourself from reality.
I believe that the only reality is what you experience. For instance, try first before knocking an idea down.
That being said, I wonder what you think or what you would say about this:
Key word is in the headline, entrepreneur. Those countries are dirt poor for the most part and there are a lot of gold diggers looking for a way out. There is a reason why they are known for being cold and ruthless. As long as you are okay and fully aware that you are not marrying for love (you shouldn't be marrying for any reason but that's a whole other issue) and are okay with losing half your assets, go for it. You seem have your head up your ass and are stuck in your Asian ego eco chamber. Even western white dudes get ruthless destroyed by eastern European women. There are hundreds of stories online, the act all loving and the perfect partner prior to marriage, get the ring and immigrant to whatever better country, move her family out there. Then her persona will completely flip with her disrespecting your bitch ass because shes gotten all she wanted out of you and shes actually been repulsed by you the entire time because your weak as fuck compared to the native men to her home country.
If your so uncompetitive with your own women that you have to resort to going to a completely different country where they dont even speak your language, the women there will eat you alive and take you for all you're worth. There are feminine women in every country, it's there natural state of being. If you think there is a lack of them somewhere, take a look in the mirror first and ask maybe because it's that you're not masculine enough yourself.
Key word is in the headline, entrepreneur. Those countries are dirt poor for the most part and there are a lot of gold diggers looking for a way out. There is a reason why they are known for being cold and ruthless. As long as you are okay and fully aware that you are not marrying for love (you shouldn't be marrying for any reason but that's a whole other issue) and are okay with losing half your assets, go for it.
You just can’t seem to understand, but he wasn’t really an entrepreneur nor was he rich when he met his wife.
There are hundreds of stories online, the act all loving and the perfect partner prior to marriage, get the ring and immigrant to whatever better country, move her family out there. Then her persona will completely flip with her disrespecting your bitch ass because shes gotten all she wanted out of you and shes actually been repulsed by you the entire time because your weak as fuck compared to the native men to her home country.
It depends on who you pick too as well as a variety of other factors. If you go and pick and as it happens above if you must, well then you’re a dumbass that’s at fault too. There are usually tell-tale signs this isn’t rocket science.
If your so uncompetitive with your own women that you have to resort to going to a completely different country where they dont even speak your language, the women there will eat you alive and take you for all you're worth.
That’s great but I’m not going there if you’re directly addressing me so this wouldn’t apply anyway.
If you think there is a lack of them somewhere, take a look in the mirror first and ask maybe because it's that you're not masculine enough yourself.
Masculine “enough” people don’t spend time doing stupid shit like that though. They’re usually living life by being productive, or occupied by other tasks.
If you’re insecure with your masculinity you need to spend time doing that or even the thought of doing that, maybe you have other issues.
"The Problem With Feminine Women" matches my experiences (sorry for the bullshit sales popup on that blog... seems annoyingly common these days); the basic concept is in line with the "image matching" idea. Essentially, if you're a guy who wants feminine women, you have to be a masculine guy. The more experience you have with women, the more you understand this.
Hell, you don't even need much experience with women. Just go about your everyday life and notice who is paired up. Usually the feminine women have masculine guys (and vice-versa), while the androgynous match up. Most people are within five or six years of each other's ages. Etc. Some things, of course, cannot be changed... you cannot change your age. But some things can... it is possible to date hotter-younger chicks. That is what you're learning from game. But many guys, maybe most guys, if you're going to get the hottest chicks, you have to be the best dude... you start off working for the chicks, then you end up working on yourself.
Usually the feminine women have masculine guys (and vice versa)
I saw a couple the other day that proves this point on the vice versa side. The woman was very overweight, had some faded tattoos and was smoking a cigarette. The guy weighed maybe 110 lbs soaking wet, had a bird chest and was following her as she led the way. He was shorter than her too. Gave me a good laugh anyway.
I had one and I appreciated it that it always got me from point A to point B but I always longed for my shitty V6 Nissan Maxima that looked like shit and broke down half the time but was fun to drive.
Being a rational male I understood this paradigm and was able to see it for what it was. Now if you're an emotional female who lacks rationality switch out honda civic for beta bux and nissan maxima for alpha fucks and its a pretty fantastic analogy.
The end game is to be some sort of hybrid of these, maybe a lexus or something like that I guess
Fucking hilarious dude. You went out on a limb to drone on about some weird parochial cultural conflict in your small town that no one gives a shit about, then spammed some book recommendations that have nothing to do with the post's topic.
Maybe I'll start spamming every TRP post with recipes for my favorite clam chowder. When people complain that it's not relevant I'll fart out that "gift horse" cliche (that literally everyone has heard, no one needs to google one of the oldest idioms in existence) as if I'm doing people a massive service.
HealthCatch0213 5y ago
Very good article.
Some guys don't realize that the more feminine a woman, the more bitchy, naggy she can be. It is up to you, as a man to control her. Despite what all these feminists say about being a "controlling" boyfriend is bad, women DO want to be controlled. They want to find a man who they can surrender to and who will tell them "NO".
If you're the type to let the woman take control, then be prepared to be met with only masculine women.
stedi-akk 5y ago
The more I read trp, the more I start to realise why my mother loved and listened my father in every situation, regardless of how he treated her sometimes.
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
Yes controlling not in the sense of possessiveness, but more like having a strong frame and boundaries.
Herdsengineers 5y ago
Think of "controlling" more as "leading". If you lead her competently so it's in her benefit to follow, she will.
uglynihilist 5y ago
Feminine women only. I was raised there and been to Ukraine multiple times. I would say that all eastern european women have the same tendencies for feminine behaviour and traditionalism and that’s fucking amazing. When I hear some westerners complain about girls there being gold diggers It makes me laugh. This happens only because that’s the type of women that westerners attract especially if they come for a short period of time.
And now after 5 years in the capital of damaged women - Toronto, I can 100% guarantee that there is an insane difference in quality of women. From appearance to character. Russian women are better at everything. The only good thing about western women is that they can bring money to the family as well. But again, are you looking for mother of your children and a housewife or a financial partner who can help you payoff mortgage?
lala_xyyz 5y ago
Eastern European women still whore around when they move into the country capital from their small town, when traveling and when (they think) they can't get caught and judged. AWALT. But on average they are better than Western skanks who have been in open hypergamy mode since they were teenagers. But that is changing rapidly, the West now is what the East will look like in a generation. It's the culture that keeps them somewhat in check, not some different biological underpinning.
redpill77 5y ago
I was skeptical until I saw the name: Toronto. Everyone I meet from there is so worried about offending everyone. And it's the land of independent non-binary fat-positive womyn who don't need no man, but do need medication and therapy for their depression.
SeizeTheGreens 5y ago
Does going to Eastern Europe for feminine women only work for whites?
fuze_me_69 5y ago
depends how much money you have, and how desperate of a person you find
lots of money? you get the top picks even if youre an abo midget
not a lot of money? you get the leftovers although its still not too bad since its a poor place in lots of citiies
the obvious solution? get more $
123TxB 5y ago
No,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KfCJYWwEWLo
uglynihilist 5y ago
Going for sex or trophy wife? Bunch of Turkish guys fly to ukraine constantly just for sex. There are a bunch of sluts there as well, especially when you go to clubs but if you are black I think you will have hard time getting anything there. And I don’t think it’s safe for you either. Both men and women still have this mentality recognizing foreigners as a threat which is natural.
yungassed 5y ago
Yup, they have an extreme in-group preference, which makes sense considering how much the Russians fucked them over. Even North American whites will typically have a tough time and only the scraps. Add along to the fact that they still get married pretty young over there so the more desirable girls tend to be already taken.
123TxB 5y ago
Perception:
Reality:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KfCJYWwEWLo
yungassed 5y ago
Lmao at your 'reality' video. Thanks for that, actually gave me a good laugh there from you thinking that's an accurate basis to go off.
Theres a lot to criticize so I'll keep it short and stick to the major points by order:
Compared to other women in Kiev, like a 6, potentially a 7 if she lost a bit of weight. That city is a goldmine of beautiful women, so shes probably not getting that much attention from native attractive men which makes her seek out forgeiners. She talked about how Asian men treated white women better, that's just her female solipsism think her own personal experience reflects all women. If she was more attractive, I'm sure she would be treated just fine by white men.
You're using a single counter example to attempt to disprove an ovbious large trend. It's similar to trying to say American isnt racist to black men because of one white women saying they love that (and use the same reasons the girl in the video did) Nah bitch, in general America is racist as fuck and the minority of white women tend to be pretty lower class or clout chaser trying to fuck rappers and athletes.
I'm not saying its impossible, I've light skinned arab and have been with a few eastern European girls such countries like Poland, Luthiania and Kazakhstan. The commonality between all of them were they all travelled, spoke decent English, were over 25, and we meet in western Europe where eastern Europeans are viewed like the Mexicans of America so the were already slightly lower status. If I had met them in their country, had been more darkly skinned, or they were a bit younger, I highly doubt those relationships would have happened. Hell, one girl was a borderline neonazi (she said she wasnt but she 'fell' into that circle because of her bf at the time) when she was in college.
This isnt to discourage you but I believe it's important to not delude yourself from reality. If you to end up visiting those countries and dont get success you think you should have compared to what you would have back home, dont take it to heart because theres a decent chance it was factors out of your control.
123TxB 5y ago
He asked:
You replied:
I just provided a counter example w/a(n) Asian guys. They are certainly not white.
Yes, but going to Eastern Europe to get w/feminine women can work for non-whites too.
That’s what I’m trying to get at. You made it seem like it wasn’t really possible earlier.
I believe that the only reality is what you experience. For instance, try first before knocking an idea down.
That being said, I wonder what you think or what you would say about this:
https://www.asiaone.com/china/you-too-can-find-beautiful-ukrainian-wife-says-chinese-entrepreneur
yungassed 5y ago
Key word is in the headline, entrepreneur. Those countries are dirt poor for the most part and there are a lot of gold diggers looking for a way out. There is a reason why they are known for being cold and ruthless. As long as you are okay and fully aware that you are not marrying for love (you shouldn't be marrying for any reason but that's a whole other issue) and are okay with losing half your assets, go for it. You seem have your head up your ass and are stuck in your Asian ego eco chamber. Even western white dudes get ruthless destroyed by eastern European women. There are hundreds of stories online, the act all loving and the perfect partner prior to marriage, get the ring and immigrant to whatever better country, move her family out there. Then her persona will completely flip with her disrespecting your bitch ass because shes gotten all she wanted out of you and shes actually been repulsed by you the entire time because your weak as fuck compared to the native men to her home country.
If your so uncompetitive with your own women that you have to resort to going to a completely different country where they dont even speak your language, the women there will eat you alive and take you for all you're worth. There are feminine women in every country, it's there natural state of being. If you think there is a lack of them somewhere, take a look in the mirror first and ask maybe because it's that you're not masculine enough yourself.
123TxB 5y ago
You just can’t seem to understand, but he wasn’t really an entrepreneur nor was he rich when he met his wife.
http://shanghaiist.com/2014/12/11/heibei-man-finds-success-beautiful-wife-ukraine/
I can’t do that.
It depends on who you pick too as well as a variety of other factors. If you go and pick and as it happens above if you must, well then you’re a dumbass that’s at fault too. There are usually tell-tale signs this isn’t rocket science.
That’s great but I’m not going there if you’re directly addressing me so this wouldn’t apply anyway.
Masculine “enough” people don’t spend time doing stupid shit like that though. They’re usually living life by being productive, or occupied by other tasks.
If you’re insecure with your masculinity you need to spend time doing that or even the thought of doing that, maybe you have other issues.
flyinghorse1 5y ago
Why don't Ukrainian women have any money? Do they work?
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stedi-akk 5y ago
They work. But the salary in Ukraine is low.
flyinghorse1 5y ago
Hopefully it pays more when they enter the EU.
chubz4you 5y ago
Anddd he shills for a wantrepreneur class at the end. Garbage.
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[deleted] 5y ago
Feminine women still want a provider...and will seek more efficient providers than you.
OutsideTheCage3 5y ago
"The Problem With Feminine Women" matches my experiences (sorry for the bullshit sales popup on that blog... seems annoyingly common these days); the basic concept is in line with the "image matching" idea. Essentially, if you're a guy who wants feminine women, you have to be a masculine guy. The more experience you have with women, the more you understand this.
Hell, you don't even need much experience with women. Just go about your everyday life and notice who is paired up. Usually the feminine women have masculine guys (and vice-versa), while the androgynous match up. Most people are within five or six years of each other's ages. Etc. Some things, of course, cannot be changed... you cannot change your age. But some things can... it is possible to date hotter-younger chicks. That is what you're learning from game. But many guys, maybe most guys, if you're going to get the hottest chicks, you have to be the best dude... you start off working for the chicks, then you end up working on yourself.
RPSilverfox 5y ago
I saw a couple the other day that proves this point on the vice versa side. The woman was very overweight, had some faded tattoos and was smoking a cigarette. The guy weighed maybe 110 lbs soaking wet, had a bird chest and was following her as she led the way. He was shorter than her too. Gave me a good laugh anyway.
Zech4riah 5y ago
Why the hate against Honda Civic? :/
8380atgmaildotcom 5y ago
I had one and I appreciated it that it always got me from point A to point B but I always longed for my shitty V6 Nissan Maxima that looked like shit and broke down half the time but was fun to drive.
Being a rational male I understood this paradigm and was able to see it for what it was. Now if you're an emotional female who lacks rationality switch out honda civic for beta bux and nissan maxima for alpha fucks and its a pretty fantastic analogy.
The end game is to be some sort of hybrid of these, maybe a lexus or something like that I guess
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kellykebab 5y ago
What the fuck does this ramble have to do with the OP? Just make your own post if you want to plug a book.
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kellykebab 5y ago
Fucking hilarious dude. You went out on a limb to drone on about some weird parochial cultural conflict in your small town that no one gives a shit about, then spammed some book recommendations that have nothing to do with the post's topic.
Maybe I'll start spamming every TRP post with recipes for my favorite clam chowder. When people complain that it's not relevant I'll fart out that "gift horse" cliche (that literally everyone has heard, no one needs to google one of the oldest idioms in existence) as if I'm doing people a massive service.
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kellykebab 5y ago
375mL Old Grandad
1 can whole clams
hazah-order 5y ago
IIRC those women are from the same stock that wound up on the front lines in that conflict Europe was engulfed in for reasons of survival.
Atheist_Utopia 5y ago
Artifical selection at its best