Divorced or single, I noticed a similar thing, guys looking for a relationship. I have never been the guy who wanted one, the only reason I'm in one now is because the girl I was with never gave me a red flag in over two years. And I remember that one goof in here who got divorced, then a few months later is already looking at his first plate like a replacement for the wife he already didn't want.
I happened into this mindset, almost by accident. I had been spinning plates for just about a decade at that point – I was a late bloomer – and had seen nothing but disaster in the vast majority of relationships around me. Parents, friends, co-workers. I was just old enough to see the first round of divorces among guys my age. Man it happens young. As I started telling the story, I was getting the stories of other guys in the red pill, the one that comes to mind was /u/UEMMcgill, another red pill moderator who had the same experience. A few others afterwards came out, and so I ran with the idea.
You can only be open to having a relationship, but the onus is on her to convince you it’s worth it. I wish I could recall, I'm positive there's a Whisper post on this as well, but from a different angle.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Do you really need to mention me in every post?
RStonePT 5y ago
Lol, you dumbass...
I wanna say it was steve mcqueen, but memory is fading
Persaeus 5y ago
he's referring to Steve. it's not all about you bro
max_peenor 5y ago
What makes them fast and easy fuck toys is also what makes them terrible pairing mates. This is what so many of the younger men just can't grasp. The female world has changed, but the male world hasn't. Men are still stuck in a blue world where the they play a mating ritual that culminates in serious commitment, regardless of the long term consequences. Women live in a world that doesn't see past the moment. So, guys, when you have your cock balls deep in her ass in your first night out, maybe slow down for a second and ask yourself: is this how Ward And June Cleaver spent their first night out?
I can hear the bloop howls and teeth grinding. No, bloops, I don't want to return to the 50s. Why would I? Has there ever been a greater age to be a middle aged male unencumbered by old world thinking? Daddy issues? Oh yeah, I'm sure they have them while they are sucking my dick and calling me daddy.
The problem is that while women have shed themselves of all those old world societal expectations, men haven't. And women sure as hell aren't going to point that out to men. So you want an LTR? Or sky fairy help you, you want to get married? Ok, sure. Just don't think you are living in the old world. You need to learn how to navigate the new world.
RStonePT 5y ago
I wager it's because they haven't met enough of the wrong girls
KeffirLime 5y ago
It's also the nature of the current SMP for young to middle aged men.
Cold approach is mostly dead, so the prime women meeting environment is the social scene. Bars and clubs have basically become a speed dating environment.
The women who frequent this scene however are your peak attention whores who drink too much and attend slut walks, really not the cream of the crop. It's also the breeding ground(literally)for the casual sex scene. If women don't go there themselves they'll get dragged there by some slutty friend eventually and then they're toast.
The only time you'll walk away with something promising is if it's a chick you pick up at a coffee shop, on the street or through mates. There's sometimes some decent lasses at the gym or yoga class, maybe even a dance class.
But overall they're not abundant and guys are too giddy for that happily ever after fantasy so they take what's out there.
M_C_B 5y ago
Ehhh I wouldn't say that at all. Cold approach will always be a thing, and will always be the best way to pick up women when done with solid "game". Also those "social scene" areas you listed out as well as the coffee shop, etc would be places to do cold approach. You basically said cold approach is dead than talked about cold approach and picking up women. Cold approach has much more potential than both social circle and online dating.
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There was a post two months back about Cold Approach vs Social circle vs Online dating if you look for it.
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KeffirLime 5y ago
You're misunderstanding my implication or maybe I never made it clear enough.
I'm not referring to the efficacy of cold approach, I'm referring to the frequency with which it is being employed in the current SMP, outside of curated environments specifically designed to incentive it, such as the social scene(bars,clubs etc)
In the context of my comment I'm not referring to it as Cold Approach because the environment is set up for it, it's more of a lukewarm approach if anything.
M_C_B 5y ago
I did misunderstand you as I thought you were commenting on the efficacy rather than how often it's done. My apologies for the confusion.
I have to agree that it isn't done often, as I go out frequently and most of the guys I see lack aptitude pertaining to "game" and fail, or simply don't approach at all. Most of the women I pick up often times comment on how this "almost never happens."
Agreed
StockBoat 5y ago
What do you mean by "cream of the crop"? You are not going on dates to seek out the "one".
KeffirLime 5y ago
Merely commenting on the quality of women available in the social scene, not my desires for unicorns.
Zech4riah 5y ago
So you prefer a girl, who doesn't put out at the first night you are with her, for LTR?
Even tho, as we know, she has fucked some dude at the same night she met him? Or do you think you can find a unicorn who hasn't ever fucked a guy at the same night she met him?
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
It's not a unicorn. Such women exist, lol. Weird hiw many guys are this delusional thinking all chicks ride cc. Just because they can doesn't mean they do. What you are expressing is self defeatist mentality. Or just poorly understanding of concept of awalt.
Zech4riah 5y ago
Where did I talk about riding CC? Please re-evaluate your response.
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
The point is the same. Read between the lines
Zech4riah 5y ago
I could have agreed on riding CC with you to some extent but percentage of girls who have once or twice fucked a guy at same night is significantly higher than girls who ride CC.
I guess we have to agree to disagree because there is no numbers about such things.
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
well if that's what you meant then fair enough, let's say you meant girls who had ONS, correct? That still is not as high as some men here on trp claim. Sure, that number is higher than girls who ride CC, but I am highly skeptical that there are more women who had ONS compared to women who only had sex while in relationships or at least after 5-10 dates.
XtoDoubt 5y ago
This is the real problem with the "quality woman" myth. Even guys who frequent this forum still cling to the notion that there are "good girls" and "bad girls". They're all "bad girls". Some just might not be a "bad girl" for you.
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
No. You understand awalt wrong. Women just are what they are. If she did not put out for you on first date it doesnt mean she did for previous guys. The thing is to look for red flags that she's a slut or not. Imagining all women riding cc is some incel type shit. Yes she may have put out for chad on first date but just because she didn't for you doesn't mean she did already for somebody else.
whenfoom 5y ago
That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying all women's behavior is context dependent, and not internal-moral-compass dependent. And that means any woman will do anything as long as the context compels her.
wobbleelbbow 5y ago
Yes, I can agree with that.
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redpillcad 5y ago
Men dont need a relationship. Men need sex. Men need a mission
Mangasbzo7 5y ago
This. Just coming out of a 7 year LTR (no bad blood), I couldn't agree more.
kerrielou73 5y ago
Divorced and widowed men remarry faster and at higher rates than women.
redpillcad 5y ago
And excons are more likely end up back in jail compared to nonconvicts
What's your point?
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Zech4riah 5y ago
This is false, most men have biological need to pair bond and most men without woman are miserable. Human Biology 101 so not too much to argue about here.
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Zech4riah 5y ago
Like I said, Human biology 101, don't believe me - just educate yourself a bit and read. Man is happiest when he has all - sex, pair bonding and mission. If one is missing, man is more or less miserable.
Howdoiusesync 5y ago
Can you elaborate on what "hoops" you were set up to jump through?
RStonePT 5y ago
You know chick bullshit when you see it, I don't want to do itemized lists
womans_algorithm 5y ago
I am a programmer so...open you article, control+f, write hoops. Not meanong this on condensensing way.
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
Surely if you're spinning plates you get everything you want out of a relationship at cut price, replace them as they fall, rinse repeat.
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