Too much beating around the bushes in that article.. Get to the fkn point already. Also, resources don't mean shit until women are 23-24, from that point it still means little, it only becomes important late twenties/early thirties. Then they really start focusing on locking down a provider if they haven't got one yet.
Casually trying to hook up with thirties women is the hardest market segment there is. Better to fuck fresh sluts (early 20s) or old ones (post divorce)
This is absolutely true in my experience. Money and earnings potential mean zilch as a teen and little in college unless the woman is smart
Women who are in their late 20s to early 30s know the well is running dry and will hold off sex as long as possible. Early 20s girls are still in the discovery party phase and post divorced women already been there done that with commitment and just want fun
Well, being from an economically disadvantaged area in my youth, I can say that the girls in their late teens early twenties there mostly had the guy they liked but got rid of him in a hot second for a wealthy guy.
Well, not really got rid of him as they often kept him on the side, but all the hot ones married and were out of there within two years of graduating high school.
From a young age my loving parents told me that I had to study hard to get the girl. I spent age 18 - 23 studying and working. The girls I knew of partied pretty hard those years. I wasn't involved.
Got my first real girflriend at 24. I remember telling her how hard I worked and studied, and that I'd be the perfect long term companion due to my work ethic alone. We then broke up 8 times over the course of 5 months.
I then spent age 24 - 28 working and lifting heavy weights. There were a couple girls along the way. I now make enough money to appease the 29 year olds but they are hesitant due to my (quote unquote, as these are their words) fuckboy physique.
So now I've started dating younger girls - those closer to their 20s than 30s. The girls I grew up with, now swinging into their early 30s, are telling me it's creepy to date younger girls.
Early slut (18-20ish) very easy, very high demand. Large quality and quantity as well. Low investment high return, best ROI but risk is high (pregnancy and rape accusation, smear attack, job hazards etc)
Edit: I add reason why this early segment is easy, if you are older it is easier, but if you are young/same age group, you need some other things to bring it home: peer recognition, elite status of anything (I had AMEX platinum since young age and that works well for me), but generally it is really not worth to hinder your long term ROI by invest too heavily this early in this segment to gain experience....you should invest into later segment or early 30 segment. College freshman is actually not worth that much, they are not yet know how to enjoy sex and mostly are feminist nuts underneath.
-Avoid this segment if you were young, come back to this segment once you break 20 and at least Alpha widowed magical 3 at minimum. This is High return/High risk segment if you don’t know what you doing. Rich and powerful still get shafted, what makes you think you can get away when you cum in a 20s? Be aware of crazy!!
Mid segment is the worst, highest expense on time and money, lowest return, high rate of betrayal and bullshit, if you are NOT top 1% stay away, if you are top 1% go fuck some 20s. Only stay in this segment for political/social status reason (Arnold married a Kennedy, Jared Kushner also a perfect example, you married INTO a status) if she have nothing to offer, steer clear away.
Late segment/post divorce/ near 40 or past 40. This is suggested segment for anyone young and inexperienced. Cougar pussy is the best if you are just turn 18. She is no longer able to get pregnant, she had experience, she have life and probably a mom. Perfect fuck and she knows you will be some alpha male someday. Beware of their self awareness, if she still delusional, Okayed and you need to know how to fuck her, creat demand by performance and stay fuck away (out of sight but keep you in her mind of perfect sex, chick dig that climax) , if she is poor be aware you might be her last chance of slavery husband. So choose your target and evaluate throughly as case by case. For me the best fuck are the one that married some rich old guy and divorced, they keep good shape past 40, above 7 hot, and have some nice properties but alone as fuck career cat lady. You can find them at bar, at high end club, travel by themself in airport, very defensive when approached but let you do everything to her once you in her emotional gap. Same rule, little more investment game. Be aware of AIDS and other flaw she might have like STD. Don’t fuck her raw until you verified. this segment is the best for young man to hone their sex skills. To learn how to fuck 30 minutes hard and not jizz. If you can plow a chick from behind like a fucking alpha dog and give her orgasm she passed out, your phone number will be her “Favorite” list and give a name like Mike Mustang etc.
Tinder? Bumble?
I have my fair share of lucky fuck before. I don’t go beyond 40 unless is at least 6 hot.....
That being said. 18-24 you should focus on how to get number of sex, and afterwards focus on quality.
Once you break 50 sex partner and expect women be quite understandable.....strange isn’t it? Once you get it out of your system, a real hot girl it just be regular girl.
Segment works if you are older, in good shape, have status, have job/time.
if you are same age, nope it is harder.
I am consider top 30% to 20% of my peer. Means if I see 10 I am no3, or no2 sometimes. I know my strength and weakness well. I hide my weakness and boast my strength, and pick people’s weakness and expose or magnified in front of chicks, I brush off my weakness or flip it to make attacker angry or shame (racist card, political correctness card, lots of technology out already)
Learn how to talk and when not to talk (by ignore them) it will force someone instinctively want you to pay attention to them, you can flip it make they embarrassed. Or if they want violence escalates, you can sure make them risk their career. Note to Not hang out with real drug dealer or thug you might get killed because they don’t give 2 fucks about your mouth and be aware your vibe.
Can you compete with someone had more money and status but older? If answer is no, you need to change segment until you find it comfortable and begin to spin plates.
The real tragedy for me is the lack of late 40's to early 50's hot chicks. I'm just fine with the skin being tired if there is great muscle tone, skin health and general health. I'd just love to be North Bay around Marin County instead of East Bay right now. The older women like me here (a lot) but I haven't bumped into any who are attractive enough. There isn't enough of the yoga culture and health food stores out here, because that is really what it takes in these parts..
They keep real fresh yeah? I don't have a problem at all meeting young women in other countries, just that isn't my market here. So though you are saying that current 50 year old Japanese women are on fire?
I got at least 10 different milf when I was there, range from early 30-40.
Japan have age bias and normal girl after 30 is almost forever alone if they can’t find partner....
You're beating too much around the bush and there's still plenty of wishful thinking in there. It's really simple man: first and foremost, all guys in here care about one single, major girl type: the 18 to 25 year old cute/hot girl. What they do/think/whatever at 30, 35, 45 couldn't matter less. To these girls - and all women in general, guys can fall into only one of two categories: beta providers and alpha sperm donors. Yes I know you think that the fact that you can make money doesn't automatically make you beta. Unfortunately women don't share that thought. The way they judge value is flawed and it shows. In short they start preferring guys with resources when they're already on their way down SMV-wise. Only after Chad is finished with that pussy does she realize that she has nothing to show for the past 10 years of dicking and it's time to find herself a good boy.
Really well put. I remember when I was in highschool on full party mode, all chicks were on me, and those were young ones. Later I started my career and I remember the time I got my first car, that was when I had my first girlfriend above 21 y/o (I was about 24 - 25 then)
Absolutely true. My ex was 27, and Daddy paid for everything, including her nice house. This kept her in a college-age mental state permanently. Binge drinking, entitled attitude, never offered to pay for anything, and overall shitty attitude followed. Next.
A lot of trust fund babies make terrible people full stop. I went to private school (I got a scholarship, Came from a good background but single parent household so a charity paid for my education as i was 'gifted') A lot of people i went to school with have just grown up to become shitty people, entitled, spoilt and impatient. It's the trust fund that does it. The ones who's parent's cut them off after school have grown up to be well-rounded individuals with families. The ones still living off their parents money are all partying into their late 30s and posting things about socialism being great on social media all the time (ironically).
In her defense, she did have a full-time job. But as we all know, there's great freedom and maturity that comes with being completely self-reliant. When you are beholden to anyone, you are not truly free.
I found them to be extremely difficult to please. The level of entitlement these types of girls experience is unparalleled.
And, as we all know, women give love on a conditional basis. That’s why unless you’re in the top 1% of income, there’s nothing you can give to them that they can’t already get.
Ya, don’t marry them, don’t even girlfriend them, you fuck them 2-10 times, 10 being upper limit, then you let them back into the wild for their next cock on the carousel
A buddy of mine just married the daughter of a very wealthy family. For the wedding they split the cost. She HAD to have it as extravagant as possible.
So my buddy’s middle income family had to take out a second mortgage on their house in order to help foot their end of the bill.
And I’m not saying all this to rich-shame the wealthy. But you can bet your ass that if and when i have a daughter, I’m not raising her to be an entitled little cunt
I can see it coming. Long before i knew of RP i viewed my buddy as a typical alpha. As soon as he got engaged the whole dynamic shifted. Constant bombardment of social media posts now with paragraph captions of his wife because he thinks “he’s the lucky one”.
My mum and dad did this for my sister when she married the son of a millionaire. They offered to pay half of the wedding but my dads pride had him trying to show he could compete with them (which he obviously couldn't), and he as the father of the bride wanted to pay the whole thing.
So he remortgaged the house, then 10 years later lost his job, sister and rich hubby "helped them out" by lending him the money to buy a car (of her hubby at inflated price) then buying their house off them (just before house prices went up) and letting them live in it for free.
After paying BiL for the car, paying off the mortgage and second mortgage they have practically nothing left and live in a house owned by my sister.
She kind of divorce raped them - well marriage raped them - she married into a lot of money and it ended up costing them everything they had worked their entire lives for.
Lol. I don't know what the divorce laws are in Australia but maybe you should have tried to divorce rape her. Make that initial 25k invest cash out a mili a year later.
Suddenly, a guy who can pay the rent becomes more attractive than a hottt party guy.
It isn't attraction. The girl now realizes what the real world is like and instead of chasing a party guy, chases a guy that can let her live without working again. While her attraction doesn't shift, her end goal in the guy she wants does. She may still be attracted to the party guy but is more concerned with finding a provider.
Suddenly, a guy who can pay the rent becomes more attractive than a hottt party guy.
Cut the bullshit excuses and get back to finishing your workout, now! Yes, the provider will be financially attractive but he will never be sexually attractive in the same way the "hottt"^wtf guy is. That's why chicks^wtf girls, as you said, always cheat on the beta bucks.
And what if I told you that you can be financially successful AND "hottt" ant the same time?! Your mind = Blown!
Yeah, then they go back to wanting to be in party mode again after their need for resources are met. Aka. all the cheating wives on Tinder that openly admit it.
Betas are really "lucky" to have wifed up these "enlightened" hoes. Not only will they get her post wall, they will also be sucked dry of their own hard earned resources.
Yet some of them sincerely believe they’re doing the “right thing” like the white knights. Insane! Even if you make the argument that betas can win in the long run, it still doesn’t sound worth it based on what I’ve seen and heard.
Interesting write-up. The basic concept can be applied to most Dynamics in life, in that people tend to experiment and push the envelope and figure out what their boundaries are when they're young, and then dial it back after having a few crash and burn experiences. All part of the learning curve, but there can be some pretty ugly wreckage along the way. That's why taking the pill and internalizing the lessons to be learned is so important.
Not exactly meant to be a learning curve for women. Those crash and burn leave a huge baggage and can guarantee even the biggest frame holder ain't gonna stop his wife from losing it that one random fun weekend.
When I see Chad's now accepting the game for what it is and deciding that there's no choice other than to wife up the whore and start a family ...well shit enjoy the decline
It's more than that but that would be a starting point. I don't need to argue. At some point you'll have to decide whether you want to stake your life on a marriage. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. only you will face consequences. As far as I'm concerned I just enjoy women. Someday I might want kids and then decide something.
I’m not disagreeing it’s more than n-count. Just wanted to hear thoughts. To me there is a big difference between n-3 and n-30. Not sure I would wife up over n-5
You won't get a straight answer because every man has their own tolerance. Not to mention ages for both men and women play a part in it.
If I'm 21 and I'm dating a girl who is 19 that has already slept with 5 people then I'll pass as far as ltr is concerned.
She's on her way to being a whore.
Now if I'm 31 and dating a girl who is 25 and she's only slept with 5 or even six people then that's not that bad in my opinion. I'll give it a shot if she checks off in other areas.
There is no hard line. Obviously you don't want to ltr a whore or porn star.
I’d rather take the 19 year old as I assume the sex was vanilla and a condom, vs the 25 year old who had longer LTRs and more banging without a condom ( I assume).
The 25 year ( if her partner count is low), was in committed relationship for 8+ years for a total of 5 boyfriends. Banging boyfriends 4-6 times a week no condom, anal all the freaky shit you do in a committed relationship. = 2,500 bangs over 8 years
While the 19 year old had let’s call it (5 flings). I’d assume with a condom and vanilla sex. = 30-40 bangs over 2 years
Which girl is more damaged? I’d say the 25 year old who has banged a lot more, with 6+ years of fucking. Than the 19 year old with 5 flings. And in theory if you stick with the 19 year old, she won’t increase her n-count.
Am i wrong here? I never thought of bang vs notch count but it’s real
I’d rather take the 19 year old as I assume the sex was vanilla and a condom, vs the 25 year old who had longer LTRs and more banging without a condom ( I assume).
A lot of assumptions, but let's go with this. The issue you will run into is that she is bored and not experienced in life yet. 19 that woman is still in college and have absolutely no idea what she will be doing in the next three years. She could move for a job for all we know. Plus like I said, she hadn't experienced anything yet. What's stopping her from getting bored with you because she realizes she hadn't gone through a party single phase? And that doesn't mean she wants to sleep around.
Let's be nice and say this chick just want to experiment with going to clubs and drinking with absolutely no intention on hooking up. Is this the type of chick you want to ltr?
The 25 year ( if her partner count is low), was in committed relationship for 8+ years for a total of 5 boyfriends. Banging boyfriends 4-6 times a week no condom, anal all the freaky shit you do in a committed relationship. = 2,500 bangs
Let's go with this too. Is this really that big of a deal? You really think she's that damaged from sleeping with a few guys and one of those guys lasted a year? If anything she gained experience from those relationships and unlike our 19 year old example, the most the mid 20 example has a good idea on what she wants in life. I say good idea because they are still women. But what I mean by that is hopefully around that time she's out of her party phase. Yes she could be damaged, but let's not act like the 19 year old can't be damaged as well.
Go back to your high school days. I could tell right off the bat which girls would end up screwed up in life a few years after graduating and this was when they were 17.
And in theory if you stick with the 19 year old, she won’t increase her n-count.
Already stated, but just want to repeat that there's a risk that the 19 year old will get bored of you.
Am i wrong here? I never thought of bang vs notch count but it’s real
You're not wrong, but you're not absolutely right either. This is why I say every man has a difference tolerance. At the end of the day, you just don't want to be that guy that's with a whore. The number of partners don't matter. It's how they got whatever number they have and their lifestyle that you should be concerned about. No matter the age, women are women.
This is why on trp we say high n count or low n count. We don't say the actual number because the number can be different for everyone. There's no reason to specify the actual number because most of us here understands what a high n count is without actually saying the real number.
But the thing I keep circling back to is bang vs notch count. A girl who banged 2,500 times ( 25 year old in LTRs 8 years) vs 40 times ( 19 year old who has short flings 2 years). That’s 6 more years of banging.
Both girls have 5 partners. But the 25 year old followed red pill philosophy in theory, by only having committed sex in a relationship. While the 19 year old had flings.
The question I have for you is, who is more likely to be alpha widowed? I truly believe the 25 year old would be more jaded and higher alpha widow potential. As she’s banged 2,400 more times. Am I reaching?
Also. I totally get the 19 year old may want to keep on partying and not settle down. But I’d rather convince a 19 year old to LTR than a 25 year old who’s looking for it.
The question I have for you is, who is more likely to be alpha widowed?
Yea I disagree. I think flings are much worse. And I'm sure most people on this sub will think that too. I'd take a chick that banged one guy 2000x over a chick that banged multiple guys six times total or whatever.
I'd take the girl that has a history of commitment because it shows shows that she doesn't go from guy to guy. So you have a better chance of her sticking with you.
If you're not willing to give me your best 10 years, then why on earth should I give you my best 20-30?
This again calls back to Feminism's Terrible Blunder. Women have too much choice and end up squandering their best years only to pencil in a beta provider when the wall approaches. This has completely fucked up women's expectations and left many men high and dry, which if it wasn't for the advent of internet porn would probably result in a lot more guys going nuts and killing people and/or themselves.
I'm 27 and seeing lots of girls around my age or younger getting pregnant with some guy and raising kids alone. Some of them get fat but those who still look hot doesn't seem to have a problem in getting a guy to date.
I believe the plan is shifting to some sort of cuckoldry.
I guess Leo DiCaprio lurks on this subreddit.
That guy perfectly follows every red pill principle to the T.
Is on his purpose & committed to his mission.
Is aware of his SMV.
Dates multiple women, non-exclusively.
Dumps them when they turn 25.
Knows how to deflect interrogative questions about marriage.
MajesticPresentation 5y ago
You could have just linked to Rollo's article on the Epiphany phase. He has already gone in depth into this topic.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
Too much beating around the bushes in that article.. Get to the fkn point already. Also, resources don't mean shit until women are 23-24, from that point it still means little, it only becomes important late twenties/early thirties. Then they really start focusing on locking down a provider if they haven't got one yet.
Casually trying to hook up with thirties women is the hardest market segment there is. Better to fuck fresh sluts (early 20s) or old ones (post divorce)
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
This is absolutely true in my experience. Money and earnings potential mean zilch as a teen and little in college unless the woman is smart
Women who are in their late 20s to early 30s know the well is running dry and will hold off sex as long as possible. Early 20s girls are still in the discovery party phase and post divorced women already been there done that with commitment and just want fun
RunawayGrain 5y ago
Well, being from an economically disadvantaged area in my youth, I can say that the girls in their late teens early twenties there mostly had the guy they liked but got rid of him in a hot second for a wealthy guy.
Well, not really got rid of him as they often kept him on the side, but all the hot ones married and were out of there within two years of graduating high school.
AceMav21 5y ago
Hahaha that's when they start to depreciate in SMV too
hammerhearth 5y ago
From a young age my loving parents told me that I had to study hard to get the girl. I spent age 18 - 23 studying and working. The girls I knew of partied pretty hard those years. I wasn't involved.
Got my first real girflriend at 24. I remember telling her how hard I worked and studied, and that I'd be the perfect long term companion due to my work ethic alone. We then broke up 8 times over the course of 5 months.
I then spent age 24 - 28 working and lifting heavy weights. There were a couple girls along the way. I now make enough money to appease the 29 year olds but they are hesitant due to my (quote unquote, as these are their words) fuckboy physique.
So now I've started dating younger girls - those closer to their 20s than 30s. The girls I grew up with, now swinging into their early 30s, are telling me it's creepy to date younger girls.
There's no winning is there fellas.
livear 5y ago
You win when you reach your goals, not when bitches stop shit testing you.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
That’s exactly why they feel a need to lock down a beta provider once they reach that age...
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
That’s why. It isn’t a coincidence
uwey 5y ago
Market M shape theory.
Early slut (18-20ish) very easy, very high demand. Large quality and quantity as well. Low investment high return, best ROI but risk is high (pregnancy and rape accusation, smear attack, job hazards etc)
Edit: I add reason why this early segment is easy, if you are older it is easier, but if you are young/same age group, you need some other things to bring it home: peer recognition, elite status of anything (I had AMEX platinum since young age and that works well for me), but generally it is really not worth to hinder your long term ROI by invest too heavily this early in this segment to gain experience....you should invest into later segment or early 30 segment. College freshman is actually not worth that much, they are not yet know how to enjoy sex and mostly are feminist nuts underneath.
-Avoid this segment if you were young, come back to this segment once you break 20 and at least Alpha widowed magical 3 at minimum. This is High return/High risk segment if you don’t know what you doing. Rich and powerful still get shafted, what makes you think you can get away when you cum in a 20s? Be aware of crazy!!
Mid segment is the worst, highest expense on time and money, lowest return, high rate of betrayal and bullshit, if you are NOT top 1% stay away, if you are top 1% go fuck some 20s. Only stay in this segment for political/social status reason (Arnold married a Kennedy, Jared Kushner also a perfect example, you married INTO a status) if she have nothing to offer, steer clear away.
Late segment/post divorce/ near 40 or past 40. This is suggested segment for anyone young and inexperienced. Cougar pussy is the best if you are just turn 18. She is no longer able to get pregnant, she had experience, she have life and probably a mom. Perfect fuck and she knows you will be some alpha male someday. Beware of their self awareness, if she still delusional, Okayed and you need to know how to fuck her, creat demand by performance and stay fuck away (out of sight but keep you in her mind of perfect sex, chick dig that climax) , if she is poor be aware you might be her last chance of slavery husband. So choose your target and evaluate throughly as case by case. For me the best fuck are the one that married some rich old guy and divorced, they keep good shape past 40, above 7 hot, and have some nice properties but alone as fuck career cat lady. You can find them at bar, at high end club, travel by themself in airport, very defensive when approached but let you do everything to her once you in her emotional gap. Same rule, little more investment game. Be aware of AIDS and other flaw she might have like STD. Don’t fuck her raw until you verified. this segment is the best for young man to hone their sex skills. To learn how to fuck 30 minutes hard and not jizz. If you can plow a chick from behind like a fucking alpha dog and give her orgasm she passed out, your phone number will be her “Favorite” list and give a name like Mike Mustang etc.
Stay safe and plow on.
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uwey 5y ago
Tinder? Bumble? I have my fair share of lucky fuck before. I don’t go beyond 40 unless is at least 6 hot..... That being said. 18-24 you should focus on how to get number of sex, and afterwards focus on quality.
Once you break 50 sex partner and expect women be quite understandable.....strange isn’t it? Once you get it out of your system, a real hot girl it just be regular girl.
OutsideTheCage3 5y ago
Does not seem that easy to most guys, and is often not that easy for me.
uwey 5y ago
Segment works if you are older, in good shape, have status, have job/time. if you are same age, nope it is harder. I am consider top 30% to 20% of my peer. Means if I see 10 I am no3, or no2 sometimes. I know my strength and weakness well. I hide my weakness and boast my strength, and pick people’s weakness and expose or magnified in front of chicks, I brush off my weakness or flip it to make attacker angry or shame (racist card, political correctness card, lots of technology out already)
Learn how to talk and when not to talk (by ignore them) it will force someone instinctively want you to pay attention to them, you can flip it make they embarrassed. Or if they want violence escalates, you can sure make them risk their career. Note to Not hang out with real drug dealer or thug you might get killed because they don’t give 2 fucks about your mouth and be aware your vibe.
Can you compete with someone had more money and status but older? If answer is no, you need to change segment until you find it comfortable and begin to spin plates.
destraht 5y ago
The real tragedy for me is the lack of late 40's to early 50's hot chicks. I'm just fine with the skin being tired if there is great muscle tone, skin health and general health. I'd just love to be North Bay around Marin County instead of East Bay right now. The older women like me here (a lot) but I haven't bumped into any who are attractive enough. There isn't enough of the yoga culture and health food stores out here, because that is really what it takes in these parts..
uwey 5y ago
You need to go Japan. Stay around Tokyo area,
destraht 5y ago
They keep real fresh yeah? I don't have a problem at all meeting young women in other countries, just that isn't my market here. So though you are saying that current 50 year old Japanese women are on fire?
uwey 5y ago
I got at least 10 different milf when I was there, range from early 30-40. Japan have age bias and normal girl after 30 is almost forever alone if they can’t find partner....
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Centipede2828 5y ago
You're beating too much around the bush and there's still plenty of wishful thinking in there. It's really simple man: first and foremost, all guys in here care about one single, major girl type: the 18 to 25 year old cute/hot girl. What they do/think/whatever at 30, 35, 45 couldn't matter less. To these girls - and all women in general, guys can fall into only one of two categories: beta providers and alpha sperm donors. Yes I know you think that the fact that you can make money doesn't automatically make you beta. Unfortunately women don't share that thought. The way they judge value is flawed and it shows. In short they start preferring guys with resources when they're already on their way down SMV-wise. Only after Chad is finished with that pussy does she realize that she has nothing to show for the past 10 years of dicking and it's time to find herself a good boy.
teabagabeartrap 5y ago
Good read, but downvoted, because only a link. At least a short summary would been good.
more and more people just post links here and leave.
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Looks for me like you just want more clicks on your site and do only the necessary.
I miss the people that rly want to help this community to grow...
krym33 5y ago
Really well put. I remember when I was in highschool on full party mode, all chicks were on me, and those were young ones. Later I started my career and I remember the time I got my first car, that was when I had my first girlfriend above 21 y/o (I was about 24 - 25 then)
CuntQueefBalloonKnot 5y ago
Absolutely true. My ex was 27, and Daddy paid for everything, including her nice house. This kept her in a college-age mental state permanently. Binge drinking, entitled attitude, never offered to pay for anything, and overall shitty attitude followed. Next.
coopdawgX 5y ago
Trust fund babies make terrible partners
Fielder57 5y ago
A lot of trust fund babies make terrible people full stop. I went to private school (I got a scholarship, Came from a good background but single parent household so a charity paid for my education as i was 'gifted') A lot of people i went to school with have just grown up to become shitty people, entitled, spoilt and impatient. It's the trust fund that does it. The ones who's parent's cut them off after school have grown up to be well-rounded individuals with families. The ones still living off their parents money are all partying into their late 30s and posting things about socialism being great on social media all the time (ironically).
CuntQueefBalloonKnot 5y ago
In her defense, she did have a full-time job. But as we all know, there's great freedom and maturity that comes with being completely self-reliant. When you are beholden to anyone, you are not truly free.
MoDuReddit 5y ago
Yeah, not to pay expenses, but to pay exclusively for her vices. That's why trust-fund babies never grow.
coopdawgX 5y ago
I found them to be extremely difficult to please. The level of entitlement these types of girls experience is unparalleled.
And, as we all know, women give love on a conditional basis. That’s why unless you’re in the top 1% of income, there’s nothing you can give to them that they can’t already get.
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Fegit 5y ago
You don’t need to give them shit but a good time, that’s the secret...
Wolveryn 5y ago
Ya, don’t marry them, don’t even girlfriend them, you fuck them 2-10 times, 10 being upper limit, then you let them back into the wild for their next cock on the carousel
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Wolveryn 5y ago
Divorcee of one here. Mummy and daddy gave her a 2,000,000 house... which in Sydney Australia was just a standard house in a nice suburb.
She and her parents turned out to be cunts. It went downhill when they demanded I spend at least $25K on her engagement ring...
coopdawgX 5y ago
A buddy of mine just married the daughter of a very wealthy family. For the wedding they split the cost. She HAD to have it as extravagant as possible.
So my buddy’s middle income family had to take out a second mortgage on their house in order to help foot their end of the bill.
And I’m not saying all this to rich-shame the wealthy. But you can bet your ass that if and when i have a daughter, I’m not raising her to be an entitled little cunt
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
shit test failed, in fact I'm not sure how you can fail it much worse.
Unless she somehow is on the hook for way more than that if they divorce... then hey - good investment.
Wolveryn 5y ago
I would bet my life savings that their marriage will crumble within 2 years based off nothing but the information you’ve provided
coopdawgX 5y ago
I can see it coming. Long before i knew of RP i viewed my buddy as a typical alpha. As soon as he got engaged the whole dynamic shifted. Constant bombardment of social media posts now with paragraph captions of his wife because he thinks “he’s the lucky one”.
Wolveryn 5y ago
The sooner he hits rock bottom the better... sad to say
hmsthinkingmeat 5y ago
My mum and dad did this for my sister when she married the son of a millionaire. They offered to pay half of the wedding but my dads pride had him trying to show he could compete with them (which he obviously couldn't), and he as the father of the bride wanted to pay the whole thing.
So he remortgaged the house, then 10 years later lost his job, sister and rich hubby "helped them out" by lending him the money to buy a car (of her hubby at inflated price) then buying their house off them (just before house prices went up) and letting them live in it for free.
After paying BiL for the car, paying off the mortgage and second mortgage they have practically nothing left and live in a house owned by my sister.
She kind of divorce raped them - well marriage raped them - she married into a lot of money and it ended up costing them everything they had worked their entire lives for.
People are crazy.
RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago
So in a way, the sister came out as a winner.
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killedontheprivy 5y ago
Lol. I don't know what the divorce laws are in Australia but maybe you should have tried to divorce rape her. Make that initial 25k invest cash out a mili a year later.
Wolveryn 5y ago
Well the house was hers, but on paper it was a family investment property. On paper she was poorer than me
Augans 5y ago
should have just moved in with her lol. 25k is cheap for a free house for more than a year
Wolveryn 5y ago
Nothing is free in this life. I could go into detail, but it’s just not that simple
startfromdin 5y ago
Same situation dude :( bless u
iknowthewhey 5y ago
It isn't attraction. The girl now realizes what the real world is like and instead of chasing a party guy, chases a guy that can let her live without working again. While her attraction doesn't shift, her end goal in the guy she wants does. She may still be attracted to the party guy but is more concerned with finding a provider.
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tchower 5y ago
Not to mention most people have to work really hard for their money and make sacrifices, unless you’re extremely lucky.
McVaghunter 5y ago
Cut the bullshit excuses and get back to finishing your workout, now! Yes, the provider will be financially attractive but he will never be sexually attractive in the same way the "hottt"^wtf guy is. That's why
chicks^wtf girls, as you said, always cheat on the beta bucks.And what if I told you that you can be financially successful AND "hottt" ant the same time?! Your mind = Blown!
tchower 5y ago
Yeah, then they go back to wanting to be in party mode again after their need for resources are met. Aka. all the cheating wives on Tinder that openly admit it.
volvostupidshit 5y ago
Betas are really "lucky" to have wifed up these "enlightened" hoes. Not only will they get her post wall, they will also be sucked dry of their own hard earned resources.
tchower 5y ago
Yet some of them sincerely believe they’re doing the “right thing” like the white knights. Insane! Even if you make the argument that betas can win in the long run, it still doesn’t sound worth it based on what I’ve seen and heard.
RightHandWolf 5y ago
Interesting write-up. The basic concept can be applied to most Dynamics in life, in that people tend to experiment and push the envelope and figure out what their boundaries are when they're young, and then dial it back after having a few crash and burn experiences. All part of the learning curve, but there can be some pretty ugly wreckage along the way. That's why taking the pill and internalizing the lessons to be learned is so important.
markinsinz7 5y ago
Not exactly meant to be a learning curve for women. Those crash and burn leave a huge baggage and can guarantee even the biggest frame holder ain't gonna stop his wife from losing it that one random fun weekend.
When I see Chad's now accepting the game for what it is and deciding that there's no choice other than to wife up the whore and start a family ...well shit enjoy the decline
MCATL2244 5y ago
What n-count = whore to you?
markinsinz7 5y ago
It's more than that but that would be a starting point. I don't need to argue. At some point you'll have to decide whether you want to stake your life on a marriage. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. only you will face consequences. As far as I'm concerned I just enjoy women. Someday I might want kids and then decide something.
MCATL2244 5y ago
I’m not disagreeing it’s more than n-count. Just wanted to hear thoughts. To me there is a big difference between n-3 and n-30. Not sure I would wife up over n-5
askmrcia 5y ago
You won't get a straight answer because every man has their own tolerance. Not to mention ages for both men and women play a part in it.
If I'm 21 and I'm dating a girl who is 19 that has already slept with 5 people then I'll pass as far as ltr is concerned.
She's on her way to being a whore.
Now if I'm 31 and dating a girl who is 25 and she's only slept with 5 or even six people then that's not that bad in my opinion. I'll give it a shot if she checks off in other areas.
There is no hard line. Obviously you don't want to ltr a whore or porn star.
MCATL2244 5y ago
I’d rather take the 19 year old as I assume the sex was vanilla and a condom, vs the 25 year old who had longer LTRs and more banging without a condom ( I assume).
The 25 year ( if her partner count is low), was in committed relationship for 8+ years for a total of 5 boyfriends. Banging boyfriends 4-6 times a week no condom, anal all the freaky shit you do in a committed relationship. = 2,500 bangs over 8 years
While the 19 year old had let’s call it (5 flings). I’d assume with a condom and vanilla sex. = 30-40 bangs over 2 years
Which girl is more damaged? I’d say the 25 year old who has banged a lot more, with 6+ years of fucking. Than the 19 year old with 5 flings. And in theory if you stick with the 19 year old, she won’t increase her n-count.
Am i wrong here? I never thought of bang vs notch count but it’s real
askmrcia 5y ago
A lot of assumptions, but let's go with this. The issue you will run into is that she is bored and not experienced in life yet. 19 that woman is still in college and have absolutely no idea what she will be doing in the next three years. She could move for a job for all we know. Plus like I said, she hadn't experienced anything yet. What's stopping her from getting bored with you because she realizes she hadn't gone through a party single phase? And that doesn't mean she wants to sleep around.
Let's be nice and say this chick just want to experiment with going to clubs and drinking with absolutely no intention on hooking up. Is this the type of chick you want to ltr?
Let's go with this too. Is this really that big of a deal? You really think she's that damaged from sleeping with a few guys and one of those guys lasted a year? If anything she gained experience from those relationships and unlike our 19 year old example, the most the mid 20 example has a good idea on what she wants in life. I say good idea because they are still women. But what I mean by that is hopefully around that time she's out of her party phase. Yes she could be damaged, but let's not act like the 19 year old can't be damaged as well.
Go back to your high school days. I could tell right off the bat which girls would end up screwed up in life a few years after graduating and this was when they were 17.
Already stated, but just want to repeat that there's a risk that the 19 year old will get bored of you.
You're not wrong, but you're not absolutely right either. This is why I say every man has a difference tolerance. At the end of the day, you just don't want to be that guy that's with a whore. The number of partners don't matter. It's how they got whatever number they have and their lifestyle that you should be concerned about. No matter the age, women are women.
This is why on trp we say high n count or low n count. We don't say the actual number because the number can be different for everyone. There's no reason to specify the actual number because most of us here understands what a high n count is without actually saying the real number.
MCATL2244 5y ago
Thanks for the reply.
But the thing I keep circling back to is bang vs notch count. A girl who banged 2,500 times ( 25 year old in LTRs 8 years) vs 40 times ( 19 year old who has short flings 2 years). That’s 6 more years of banging.
Both girls have 5 partners. But the 25 year old followed red pill philosophy in theory, by only having committed sex in a relationship. While the 19 year old had flings.
The question I have for you is, who is more likely to be alpha widowed? I truly believe the 25 year old would be more jaded and higher alpha widow potential. As she’s banged 2,400 more times. Am I reaching?
Also. I totally get the 19 year old may want to keep on partying and not settle down. But I’d rather convince a 19 year old to LTR than a 25 year old who’s looking for it.
askmrcia 5y ago
Yea I disagree. I think flings are much worse. And I'm sure most people on this sub will think that too. I'd take a chick that banged one guy 2000x over a chick that banged multiple guys six times total or whatever.
I'd take the girl that has a history of commitment because it shows shows that she doesn't go from guy to guy. So you have a better chance of her sticking with you.
bsutansalt 5y ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
If you're not willing to give me your best 10 years, then why on earth should I give you my best 20-30?
This again calls back to Feminism's Terrible Blunder. Women have too much choice and end up squandering their best years only to pencil in a beta provider when the wall approaches. This has completely fucked up women's expectations and left many men high and dry, which if it wasn't for the advent of internet porn would probably result in a lot more guys going nuts and killing people and/or themselves.
cupshadow 5y ago
I'm 27 and seeing lots of girls around my age or younger getting pregnant with some guy and raising kids alone. Some of them get fat but those who still look hot doesn't seem to have a problem in getting a guy to date.
I believe the plan is shifting to some sort of cuckoldry.
VivekPC 5y ago
I guess Leo DiCaprio lurks on this subreddit. That guy perfectly follows every red pill principle to the T.
Is on his purpose & committed to his mission. Is aware of his SMV. Dates multiple women, non-exclusively. Dumps them when they turn 25. Knows how to deflect interrogative questions about marriage.
volvostupidshit 5y ago
Lol I never thought I could admire any celebrity until I realized Leo is living the red pill life I always wanted.
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uwey 5y ago
I can’t load the source. It don’t want me to see what it is true.
raggot_the_legendary 5y ago
For the most part this is sadly true for a large group of young men as well (boys I think you'd call them in this group).
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