The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
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INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Just to prove it was about him, every guy on this sub should pull up on the corner, point to a chick and tell her to just get in the car. Do it in honour of the champ. Let's see the results.
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wendysNO1wcheese 5y ago
I'm sure he was in an extremely expensive car. That obviously plays a role. The point still stands though. I don't think anybody is arguing the ability of Tyson to pick up chicks. Ever after he was a convicted "rapist".
Imagine if Michael Jordan was as open about his life as Tyson.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Yeah, I wonder what Jordan was like in regards to women. Obviously he was married with children, so I wonder if he played the field or not.
Useeikill 5y ago
Also don't worry about getting #metoo'd
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Nah, not when it's for old Iron Mike
Useeikill 5y ago
But he still did time for a sexual assault charge so noone is really ever safe, if a girl decides to lie enough about it...
1v1crown 5y ago
Just like Trump, the women would LET him grab them by the pussy :D
Now... the media loves to say that Trump assaulted women, which is untrue. They said that Tyson raped a woman, which is untrue.
The takeaway? Up to you to figure out, but I think it's pretty obvious.
ReturningSpider 5y ago
^ List of things that did not stop Iron Mike from getting more laid than Genghis Khan. Think about that the next time you're autistically fixating on your flaws that are totally stopping you from getting laid
edit: before the comments come in saying "hurr well not all of us can just become a world class boxer" - that's exactly the fucking point. Mike made himself exceptional. You probably won't become one of the GOATs of boxing, and you probably won't be getting half as much pussy as Mike Tyson. But you don't have to. Bottom line is pretty much any of you can raise your SMV to the point where you're not doomed to be alone forever, no matter what god given defects you think you have stopping you.
TwentyEighteen 5y ago
Mike Tyson is a genetic anomaly. It’s a bit silly to use him as an example of overcoming genetics when he is genetically gifted...
wendysNO1wcheese 5y ago
Getting half as much pussy as someone as prominent as Tyson is still getting A LOT of pussy.
El_MachineL 5y ago
His genes allowed for him to become a world class boxer. Look at the shape of his skull and facial features. You will notice that all prominent boxers have similar shaped skulls. What does this prove? It proves that some people are predisposed to having success in certain areas if they apply themselves. I have long skinny fingers and good dexterity for instance so I can play the guitar well. The problem is that a lot of people are not blessed with any good genes. It's bad faith to tell them that nothing is stopping them from being successful.
Venny_1 5y ago
Just because someone has a predisposition for a certain feature doesn't mean he's going to be able to cash in on it without hard work. Hard work and the mentality that accompanies it should be held in higher esteem, because these are the actual elements under your conscious control.
El_MachineL 5y ago
If you actually read my comment you could recognize that what you said is already inferred.
ReturningSpider 5y ago
Like I said. You may not have the genes to be the best at something; in fact most people probably don’t. But it’s quite unlikely that your genetics would just wholly suck across the board to the point that you can’t be at least decent at something
El_MachineL 5y ago
You obviously haven't met a significant portion of the population.
ReturningSpider 5y ago
Once again I'm not saying anyone can make themselves exceptional. But the overwhelming majority of guys can absolutely improve themselves to a point where they don't need to be incel.
If you're like 4'11" or something then yeah you're almost certainly SOL but most guys complaining about not getting girls aren't nearly as disadvantaged as they think they are
clavabot 5y ago
Got blessed with avg-above avg in everything, but stuch with serious self doubt+ negative self preception + fear.
Currently LIfting Srs, starting doing BJJ. Working on fixing my diet, sleep and school life.
But the only thing i can think of is how long do I need to keep doing this before I can do the sex thing, which is possibly why i will stay a virgin, but at least i'm not an incel. (yet?)
WayTooCyber 5y ago
Please read the sidebar a couple more times.
clavabot 5y ago
Fair enough, anything particular I should focus on?
Sir_Distic 5y ago
Your mission.
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Not women, but your mission. Women will come to you when you are on your mission. Yes you'll still have to approach and seduce women of course. But women will find reasons to be near you or talk to you when your SMV improves enough.
Useeikill 5y ago
This is why they say that the real gold mine is in the comments..
dongpal 5y ago
no one fucked more than Genghis Khan.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
A miracle he did not die from std.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
0.5% of the world's population that is descended from him and his brothers agrees.
awalt_cupcake 5y ago
Imagine begging your brother not to fuck your girl
anonlymouse 5y ago
Charlemagne's descendants might have something to say about that.
eccentricrealist 5y ago
Well 0.51 is descended from Genghis's dad how about that
MCFiletMignon 5y ago
At least he had the foresight to father a pimp like Genghis.
Unlike his own father, I might add.
sanos7 5y ago
Agreed. He had plenty of flaws. But his strengths made up for it tenfold.
cufflad 5y ago
Great post
Zahlix 5y ago
quality post. we need more people fighting to improve instead of giving up by focusing on their flaws.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Iron Mike was fucked up.
"I normally don't do interviews with women unless I fornicate with them. So you shouldn't talk any more...unless you wanna...."
SalporinRP 5y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyDoRS_MTa0
"I don't know, I really wish I did. Now I really do wanna rape her and her fucking momma"
In the words of Patrice O'Neal, "That is an innocent man."
In a weird roundabout way him going through all of that fucked up shit including being locked up for a rape he most likely didn't commit is probably the only reason he is still alive today. He seems in a much better place now after all of that hardship.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
He was a seriously horny guy.
Zoddo 5y ago
100%
And he would regularly abstain from masturbation and sex for months prior to a fight. God bless the pussy that had to withstand the brunt of that post fight frenzy
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
No doubt. He was also pretty fucked up mentally. But the guy did have a very rough start and advanced himself along the only path that was open to him, and achieved spectacularly.
Chadster113 5y ago
Lol why did he say “fornicate” so much? Was that his favorite word or something? I can of more words that sound less awkward
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chrisname 5y ago
Wouldn’t get bleeped is my guess.
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SalporinRP 5y ago
Yeah and then that whore falsely accused him of rape and took away 4 years of his life.
sanos7 5y ago
Fame is social proof plus success on stem cell fueled steroids. It’s the ultimate DHV.
There are many levels and kinds. Some of them definitely attainable.
xfiles_tr 5y ago
What is the timestamp in the full episode?
MCFiletMignon 5y ago
Apart from all the boxing, his methods seem very efficient.
7hunderpants 5y ago
https://youtu.be/kf4oXoT7oPM
_thechinaman_ 5y ago
Top quality content right here on the Red Pill.
SILENTSAM69 5y ago
Having listened to a lot of his stuff I would laugh if they were prostitutes who he then left without paying. Lol
Sir_Distic 5y ago
"You better pay me or my pimp will beat you up."
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Redpilledaccordingly 5y ago
I have a friend who is a successful businessman, and this is akin to what happens in clubs. If you're in the top 1% of men. It's a like a fantasy.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
Probably he's also good looking, socially savvy, charming etc. Just having money doesn't get you far unless you're willing to pay. You can build an 8 or 9 figure business and still be relatively unknown. Also you don't walk around with a sign you're successful so most women won't have a clue. With regards to clubs yes you can sit at a table buy bottles, have social proof etc but it doesn't guarantee you will get laid, usually only guarantees people will try to use you..
You can run a billion dollar business and you're still a nobody compared to Mike Tyson in his golden era lol.
Sir_Distic 5y ago
Exactly. If Bill Gates walked into a club in a suit and sat down at a table, 90% of the women wouldn't have a clue who he was or how wealthy he was. Maybe closer to 95-97%. But women would not be throwing pussy at him because of his looks. And probably because he doesn't carry himself with confidence.
CasaDeFranco 5y ago
My SMV has increased through my business, (+10 figures valuation at Series A) and through my network I've had exposure to men with not just money but multigenerational political and social capital, men like the Prince family network; high profile but not a household name. The women who enter these circles how aren't from these families are just objects.
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cufflad 5y ago
the dude was the baddest man on the planet - this is no surprise!
pure alpha, tore motherfuckers to shreds, people genuinely feared him.
was also jacked, rich, famous, decent looking.
i struggle to think of anybody higher status than this - it tops AAA list movie star for me.
ShozOvr 5y ago
Forgot to add that he was so ferocious that other trained killers feared him.
trppr 5y ago
You forget the detail of cocaine
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
He was towards the end of the great boxing era where the heavyweight champ of the world was arguably one of the top 10 most famous people in the entire world. Ali, Frazier, Tyson, etc.
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Not going to say he was highest status ever. Still seemed like an unsavory dude - but this does sound similar to the shit Trump says too
wendysNO1wcheese 5y ago
Tyson is much more famous than Frazier. Much more.
This is coming from a Philly guy and student of the Sweet Science. Not saying he is a better boxer. Just a lot more famous. Although one could argue Tyson is the best of all time. That's for another conversation though.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Didn’t argue otherwise lll
Zoddo 5y ago
At that particular time I really can't think of anyone else on that level. Once Cus D'Amato died, however, and he married Robin Givens shortly after everything came crumbling down.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
“I don’t talk to females unless I fornicate with them”
cufflad 5y ago
it's a long way down from the top
reditusername2 5y ago
His girlfriend cheated him with Brad Pitt
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Zoddo 5y ago
Mike's life was in shambles at that point, and they were already divorced when the whole Brad Pitt thing occurred. That said your point is still valid.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Additionally, just because she cheats on a guy doesn't make that guy better or 'more alpha' than you. A LTR knows your strengths but also your weaknesses. Knows your secrets. She's done her makeup while you used the bathroom, she's taken care of you when you're sick, she's seen you look like shit after eating thai food and watching netflix with her.
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A similar or even lower tier guy still has mystery. She can make up anything in her mind for who he is.
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falconiawillfall 5y ago
I agree 100%, therefore mindset to adopt (more so cultivate through experience with women) is that of abundance. Personally, I believe a man has achieved true abundance when he can leave a failing LTR even without having other options at the time being.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Yep. I know men who complain about getting zero sex in their relationships. I don’t feel bad for them.
If it’s so bad then leave. If you are scared to leave then that’s the fucking problem
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Lambdal7 5y ago
Not really an alpha. He had everything of an aggressive beta that is insecure and conpensated it with aggression and being rich. Same as many rich guys who are betas.
cufflad 5y ago
Dude surfing Reddit forum calls Mike Tyson beta.
Behave yourself.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
similar to people calling Trump beta. absolutely hysterical delusion
HBenedek38 5y ago
He's right though. Mike was a phenomenal boxer, but at some point after he went pro, he became complacent and lost his way. He never had work ethic for himself either, it was always his coach pushing him. He was also a sore loser.
Mike Tyson was a shit person when he was a young guy. Later in life he became wiser, and he's a likable guy now, bit while he was a pro boxer, he was a narcissistic, insecure cunt who needed a nanny/coach to take care of him.
p3n1x 5y ago
Competitive.
People at the top of their game don't lose well period. Just because you don't see the "salty" behavior, doesn't mean it isn't happening.
HBenedek38 5y ago
There is a very distinct line between being competitive, and being a sore loser. A competitive person seeks to improve himself, and calls for a rematch. A sore loser is willing to go above and beyond to invalidate the other person's success, take the responsibility off of his own shoulder, or is willing to break rules to avoid said loss.
Mike Tyson was willing to bite off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear because he knew he was losing that bout. Granted, Evander was a cheater - a way bigger chester than Iron Mike, he was so high on steroids that he would have passed for a bodybuilder. But he was taking the better of Mike. Mike rather chose disqualification than to endure a loss, then he blamed the whole thing on Holyfield supposedly headbutting him - which is absolutely no reason to bite off his ear.
Mike was also known for not training too hard. He had ridiculous high rep low volume exercises like pushups and crunches, which are from a training standpoint entirely illogical. He had low training moraly, he himself admitted he never liked working out, he needed his coach's motivation.
Overall, Iron Mike is, for all intents and purposes - Jon Jones.
Immensely talented in terms of technique. Uses chemical assistance to get the better of his opponents, instead of actually working on his flaws. Is a shitty person and a bully with criminal history.
cufflad 5y ago
I understand your point, but being shit/insecure/narcissistic doesn't mean you aren't alpha.
I prefer to look at the outcome and achievements, not the character.
It's like when people call Bezos and Zuckerberg beta because they're a bit nerdy - they achieved more than most people can dream of and lead hundreds of thousand of people.
Alphas win, are looked up to, feared in some instances.
If the chips were down, I sure wouldn't mind peak-level Mike Tyson on my side (even if he is insecure).
Zoddo 5y ago
If you have yet to read Jack Donovan's book 'The Way of Men' he has a fantastic chapter on this subject called 'On Being a Good Man'.
Lambdal7 5y ago
So when two people are insecure, jealous, emotional, hav bad social skills, but one is a billionaire and one is just a regular guy, one is alpha and one is beta?
Wealth isn’t the only factor for being factor for being alpha. Being able to navigate successfully through social situations, life challenges and building a nurturing social circle are more important.
Maith_fear 5y ago
Alpha is contextual so yeah. The traits we associate with alphas in our attempts to achieve it are not what define it, having a lot of (in this case tons) of available pussy is the mark of an alpha regardless of how awkward that person is.
cufflad 5y ago
I think you are underestimating what it takes to become a billionaire.
You have to impact hundreds of millions of lives and lead hundreds of thousands of people.
Lambdal7 5y ago
It doesn’t require any of the things I mentioned and also has a lot to do with luck.
Very few billionaires are especially gifted people compared to most millionaires, they are just like most other millionaires but were lucky.
Anonymous-O 5y ago
I believe him 100%. I have a friend who is buffed up and he barely has to try to get women. Can you imagine being buffed up, rich, and famous? SMV on god-level. If Tyson was game aware or red pilled during his prime then he would have been in SMV heaven. But he wifed Robin Givens. Dumb move. Got him in trouble. Along with the other hoes that tried to mess him up.
IRunYourRiver 5y ago
So what's that say about Robin Givens?
SwoleBenji 5y ago
There's always one Chad above bodybuilders / powerlifters and that's fighters. Most women would rather have a semi-jacked lean boi w/ cauliflower ear than a smooth skinned hairless roidbeast. Though every fighter I ever knew juiced anyway.
lala_xyyz 5y ago
Fighters all seem a bit retarded though, getting smacked in the head so many time messes with your brain. I'll take my smooth skin over brain illness and cauliflower ears anytime.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
That’s why I’m starting to get into jiu jitsu to supplement my lifting. I don’t wanna fuck up my brain
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Fighters and powerlifters dont have top tier SMV. That dude is naive.
p3n1x 5y ago
'Fighter' is a mental state, not an absolute action. Women LOVE fighters, period.
lala_xyyz 5y ago
If you don't mean combat sports practitioners, than yeah. However fully internalizing red pill means being a fighter in every domain - your body, brain, skills, business, social etc. Women don't love fighters, they love measurable results of hard work - money, social status, status symbols etc. They can pick on the "killer instinct" mentality, but if fail to produce measurable results they'll soon be gone.
p3n1x 5y ago
Disagree.
The measure of your results is yours, not hers to decide. They leave when you act like a whiney depressed bitch or your frame shows you are unhappy with your own results/self.
Women don't need to know a single thing about you to sleep with you, if you look like you can or are willing to handle yourself, they will be interested.
Maybe you are talking about LTR women?
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
lmao what? Fighters often have pretty trashy/low tier women. Powerlifters too.
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In terms of physically active people power lifters have pretty low SMV. Those guys are the opposite of aesthetics. How does this shit have upvotes. The SMV of an average golf or tennis players wife is miles above a fighter lmao
SwoleBenji 5y ago
Yeah maybe in older age groups. Anyone in their teens / twenties caught fucking an old man golfer is a "loser" as the zoomers say.
Though I could be wrong and the script could be flipped in Cali or New York where the game is completely different.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
nah. I am talking competitive more than hobbies. Not like PGA good but someone who golfed in college 9 times out of 10 will have a hotter wife/gf than a fighter.
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Lol at receiving downvotes though. Thought TRP liked hard truths. Not everyone is into MMA ya fucks
p3n1x 5y ago
Not everyone is into plastic surgury alcoholic gold diggers either ;)
Most 'competative' golfers share a very common thing also, having money.
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hoes be looking for that alpha diccc
Zoddo 5y ago
'tis the law of the land. The chicken wing king Rick Ross said it best, "Girls wanna have fun and a nigga with some change, and I doubt that'll ever change."
I wouldn't be surprised if half the women Mike dicked down were in relationships.
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