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DeltaDarkwood 5y ago
So my biggest problem with these sexbots is that I feel I've been born to early. Once these bots become hyperrealistic to the point where they can fully replace a partner I'm afraid I will be too old to enjoy them.
On the other hand you don't want to be born to late either, cause then you wouldn't be able to appreciate the true change they offer.
beachbbqlover 5y ago
I keep seeing articles like this, and every time they basically show pictures of anime full body pillows.
Is it weird that both men and women have little handheld sex toys, but the real interest in having something closer approximate a real person comes from these men?
On r-depression I noticed how often people said that what they really craved wasn't sex - it was a hug. A fucking hug.
That's where the world seems to be at.
Casanova-Quinn 5y ago
Humans crave companionship, we come from tribal groups. It's in our DNA to want connections with others.
Sex is a byproduct of companionship, not a source of it.
lastdumra 5y ago
Men are the real romantics, we just hide it because in a lot of scenarios it can be a vulnerability.
Women are not romantic, they just pretend they are because it works on us.
ReUptheReUp 5y ago
Affectionate human contact is important for human wellbeing, otherwise you get shit like what's happening now. I'm sure there are studies showing the importance of touch and child development, it only makes sense that lacking this even as an adult can lead to people feeling low.
TheStumblingWolf 5y ago
I remember seeing documentaries on prostitution at various times in my life and my impression was that most men went to not feel alone. Just to confirm.
pollodustino 5y ago
A guy once came up to me in a shopping center parking lot asking for change to catch a bus home. He was disheveled, but his clothes were clean, he didn't smell, and he obviously wasn't a transient so I listened to him. Said he just had a massive fight with his wife because we went on another bender and she drove off with his wallet, leaving him hungover and stranded. He looked completely distraught and remorseful about it, and was anxious about how he was going to get home.
I gave him a few bucks and a real, tight hug, told him it was going to be okay. The dude broke down in tears because I was the first person to help him all morning, and probably in a long time, even just a little bit.
People are at each other's throats too much now.
I haven't seen him again, but I hope he's doing okay.
loloLogic 5y ago
I would have assumed that was a scam, but I'm from New Jersey.
Pelikahn 5y ago
I just want a woman that will brush and braid my hair before I go to bed. I know it's weird to some, but it's the touch and care put into that I crave. I have yet to find a single woman who will do this for me at least once a week.
IllegibleWorkbook 5y ago
its true though. i don't crave sex like i used to. over the last few years idk its just gotten worse. I just want a hug and some conversation.
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
In a LTR, provide good sex and sustain your alpha frame. She'll provide that. Just don't get too attached to it.
loloLogic 5y ago
I've read that you need at least 7 meaningful touches per day for proper mental health.
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thegrizness 5y ago
So many feel isolated and crave physical contact, even if it's non-sexual. I really think that's a big part of it.
rockyp32 5y ago
Yeah I can’t remember the last time I really just hugged someone
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
Get big arms with a trim waist. Hug everyone. It works.
TheRedPillRipper 5y ago
The real LPT of TRP is to build yourself up enough you don’t need hugs/external motivation.
Socially I have a reputation for being extroverted, inclusive and positive. People are drawn to me. Privately; I’m internally focused on maximising the use of my mind; and body; to get what I want.
External validation; hugs or whatever else that gets humans going is their choice; my choice is to remain firmly fixed on my goals. Any accolades, awards or external validation I received meant nothing to me.
What gets me off? Knowing I did that. Accomplishing massive goals then revelling in that fact. For me; there’s no greater high.
Focus solely on fulfilling your potential and your perceived need for external validation becomes inconsequential.
Godspeed and good luck!
loloLogic 5y ago
Ok, but we're still mammals. A baby will die if it's not held and people will go nuts if they don't have some kind of physical contact or affection in their lives.
TheRedPillRipper 5y ago
I agree u/lolologic if your physical needs aren’t being met then go out and get yours. If marrying a hologram, or ONS’s are your thing; do it.
My opinion remains; internal validation trumps external any day of the week.
A man will not.
swaglordobama 5y ago
Because sex ain't shit. It feels good, then you cum, then you relax, then you fuck that bitch again 10 minutes later. Woopedi doo. Companionship, feeling cared for, etc is different from pumping your cock into a moaning wet hole, and that's what these depressed bitchboys want.
The thing is that sexbots and toys are not alternatives to real women because there is nothing to dominate and conquer with a robot or a fleshlight. The joy of fucking a bitch is the hunt; blowing through her bullshit defenses and getting her to submit to you, then dominating her with your cock. That makes it fun for the girl, too.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Insert favorite Genghis Khan quote here.
throwlaca 5y ago
WTf are you 15? I have to wait a couple hours at least. But Im 40.
donkeydodo 5y ago
I'm 23, and I'm up and running again within 2 - 3 minutes after I've cummed
throwlaca 5y ago
God dammint how I miss those times.
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I fucked a girl 8 times in a weekend some months ago, so I still got it.
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primary-throwaway 5y ago
that's because women don't think actual humans are replacapble
beachbbqlover 5y ago
A fascinating opinion, but it doesn't agree with anything I've seen, and you haven't presented any evidence.
primary-throwaway 5y ago
I think you need a special kind of autism to think you can replace human contact with objects, and males more often have autism https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/autisms-sex-ratio-explained/ The analysis estimated about 4.2 boys with autism for every girl.
HBenedek38 5y ago
Or maybe... Just maybe... Men are biologically more physical creatures with better developed hand-eye coordination, better motion control, and a greater affinity for physical things.
As for autism, autism is closely tied to high testosterone levels inside the womb. So yeah, men ARE more likely to be autistic because that's how autism works, not because men are as a collective, retarded.
Also, it's quite telling that you make fun of autistic people AND mock men at the same time. You truly are a piece of shit.
choontang 5y ago
This is a great point. Gotta think about what kind of weirdo would actually own a body pillow, yeah it's autism and women just aren't autistic as much.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
Being lonely is real. That's why you soon 10 plates. If one falls off oh well.
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TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Looking forward to sexbots brothels.
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drkinferno72 5y ago
Then they start demanding rights lije in Detroit become human
Loze1 5y ago
I like the "jokes" she makes in between her points and quotes of what the guy said.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
People say women are dumb/emotional/weak etc. This is mostly true but there are a few exceptions. I have never once in my entire life met a woman who is funny.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
"Now I'm not one to shame somebody's preferences..."
Proceeds to mock and judge.
Porlock_Person 5y ago
She does briefly wonder "what does Miku have that I don't have?"
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But she doesn't think about it long enough to get an answer...
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Run self_reflection.exe
Error: does not exist
Run rationalization_hamster.exe
redpill77 5y ago
Our current society does the equivalent of tying up the losers and making them watch as their wife/oneitis is fucked. They are devalued in every way possible in hopes that they'll hole themselves off or kill themselves because no one wants to look at them and be sad. They try to stand up for themselves, and because there is so much confusion from misinformation and such disconnection from any goodwill from society, sometimes that involves a blaze of fury (ie. murdering) because a weak man wants to feel like he wasn't the one who was snuffed out.
If there a way to make men feel respected to some degree by society without the validation of a woman's submission? There have been times when I felt angry about sexual dynamics and being a loser, and even though I wasn't a far-gone enough case to become a murderer, I did notice that I had no anger when women weren't around; when I didn't have to think about it.
As the guy points out in the video, we can explore all forms of love and happiness. If we can find a way to let men choose to give up on women and not have to be reminded 1. of the magnificent life-affirming allure of a beautiful woman in front of you, and 2. that they are detested, then I think the large portion of the population who are not sexually successful can be kept de-radicalized and even have a happy life.
strikethrough123 5y ago
Men already have their sexbots. It’s called porn.
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RightHandWolf 5y ago
Bwahahahahahahaha . . .
This oughtta be interesting. So . . . for decades women have been saying that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. They've loaded up on dildos and vibrators or modified paint mixers. They're only interested in the guys with Bruce Wayne's money, Tony Stark's brains, George Clooney or Brad Pitt's looks, and John Holmes' dong. Got it . . . message received, which is why for the past few years, there's been a whole bunch of articles about "Where are all the Good Men^TM?" And now this is looming on the horizon? Oh my . . . Looks like the Red Pilled Men will be keeping harems again. Stock tips for the win: Duracell, Little Friskies and boxed wines.
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Harems is such a strong word. I'm just kind of keeping my options open for now, you know? I don't want to move too fast, since I've been burned before.
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RightHandWolf 5y ago
In what country, might I ask?
RightHandWolf 5y ago
To really put it in context, here's another Dalrock post on the same subject from a few years back:
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/is-it-robolove-or-robolust/
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Virtual and robot sex has been coming Real Soon Now since the 90s Cyberpunk era.
Personally, I think a market will exist only among the hardcore incels and autist-level socially challenged. Once one has experienced an actual woman, artificial substitutes don't hold a throbbing veiny candle to it.
Someone came out with a product that was a "virtual" (buzzword off the era) audio sex tape recorded with microphones mounted in a head with ears to make the experience as realistic and immersive as possible. A critic in Mondo 2000 magazine likened it to "Being invited to an orgy, getting bound, gagged, blindfolded, then completely ignored."
Bazino 5y ago
I've had sex with women that was less satisfying than a Fleshlight, so I can't really subscribe to your point.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Yep
Its easy to pick out the autists, MGTOWs and incels posting in this thread. They are the ones talking about these robots and virtual sex as if its a good thing that they are excited about.
Vinterson 5y ago
Im not so sure here. 80/20 is cited here in almost every post and just by looking at these numbers there must be a sizable amount of people that are putting in a medium amount of effort into having good smv. All the while not getting close to the famed 20%.
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If all you can reasonably get are 5-6s(for whatever reason) that you aren't happy with this might seem like a better alternative without having to label everyone an incel mgtow failure.
punkrockfishboy 5y ago
Let me know when realistic sexbots come out. The one's produced today aren't realistic enough. And what I mean by realistic, just watch the TV Show "Humans" to see what I mean. (without the green or orange eyes obviously).
sebastianconcept 5y ago
I’ve been thinking about this a bit and we all might be fucked. Some issues:
1) male robots will have infinite physical performance for women, hence a bunch will be dopamine addicted to even more unrealistic performance expectations in terms of penis size, fitness and intercourse performance.
2) female robots might be fun for a while but they will never provide of what a man truly want: genuine female desire of his performance.
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sweetleef 5y ago
Until robots have social standing, or have the capacity to be rich, they won't be interesting to women.
throw_it_away_like 5y ago
Yeah, women want to show up to their friends party with a buff handsome guy to show off. Showing up with a robot isn't going to do it.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
And even then sentient robot manwhores wouldn't put up anymore with the bitchy and nagging behavior of women
sebastianconcept 5y ago
For the physical parts of the alpha fucks they might be. A good AI could imitate a Christian Grey.
Business idea: Girls, go have the forbidden room with robotic Christian Grey.
Rich old ladies wouldn’t pay good money to have some of that?
Wolveryn 5y ago
Yea that was my first thought, if the robots were perfect and their AI so realistic that they seem human, then women will do the same thing.
Reproduction of our species would become even more rare than it already is in first world countries
capsigrany 5y ago
Not necessarily. Out of uterus gestation will allow you or government to make babies without a mom. Dystopian but It will happen.
sebastianconcept 5y ago
So that might be how it would balance refining the sexual behavior that will be actually successful. Something more 5am physical. Those who let themselves be fooled by “realistic” AI and robot design would fail to stop those genes and micro-culture, hence filtering themselves out of evolution.
The thing is that a ton of high value males are not wanting to marry nor have kids anyway.
TheRedPillMonkey 5y ago
Everyone, including women, know that women always change their minds.
It's funny that everyone foolishly thinks women as a collective won't.
Women want to be part of a group, always want positive reinforcement, and never want to be told their wrong and will blame others for their shortcomings.
Feminism is a group that tells women they are powerful, can do no wrong, and all their shortcomings are man's fault.
It's no wonder why it's so popular among the unsuccessful women of the world.
roadmaptonowhere 5y ago
We won't ever replace the real thing. And the taste of disarming radical feminism will be bitter, as I predict mental illnesses like depression will most likely increase as a result of this mentality that somehow you can replace human contact. I mean, sometimes sex feels void, even if it is great sex, imagine if it's with a robot. You get that momentary bliss from orgasm and then you wonder what the fuck you're doing with your life. Porn was the begining of just that.
besantos10 5y ago
Not in our generation but what do you think about the future?
I mean with the exponential pace technology is going I would not say it's crazy to estimate that in one or two hundred years we could get to a Westworld kind of scenario.
pair66 5y ago
Well these robots will be made for the man who can not find the real thing. Women today feed from these men's weaknesses. When robots appear to pleasure men. Feminism most probably gonna collapse.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
Small minded to assume we will never be able to replace the real thing. Also, who said anything about replacing all human contact with a fucking robot? So useless to use extremes to make your point.
Also, you can wonder during every single second what the fuck you're doing with your life because you're going to die one day regardless, so is your family, your kids, you friends and all of humanity, that's inevitable. So to just think after that momentary bliss from an orgasm what you're doing with your life seems useless as well.
Lastly, people who want to be depressed will find a way to be depressed and people who want to be happy will find a way to be happy regardless of sex robots or not.
Wolveryn 5y ago
And yet porn is still quite a popular thing last time I checked?
If the AI eventually becomes impossible to discern between a real human, is it still depressing?
chain-gang-desperate 5y ago
It wouldn't be depressing because it would be a new level of personhood, but isn't that part of the fun (false accusations aside) the human games people play?
Without the struggle and achievement from people, we might as just have a super expensive metal fleshy sock to bust into.
Void of spirit until it isn't, then we are back to where we started.
Onein1024th 5y ago
Popular amongst the depressed betas of the world
This will just be the next level version of that. Soyboys fucking their computer that is stronger than them
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
FTFA:
largepaycheckaddict 5y ago
TFW the human experience turns from a tragedy into a divine comedy.
huggyblossom 5y ago
Well women are still calm, since there are so many dudes in their late 30s that just have given up and will settle with the first chick that opens up to them.
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When men start to act like man as a majority, not minority things will change.
mp111 5y ago
Men as the majority would leave women with more options. I think you’re suggesting men not see themselves as lesser
trueliberal1 5y ago
The real WTF in this video is that relationships between men and women, especially in Japan, are so fucked up that men are in large numbers starting to prefer fantasies to real women and real relationships. Sorry, but if that's the case, it's the women to blame. It wasn't hard for women to offer more than inanimate objects in the past. This is a failure of women to be even remotely appealing.
I think Japan is the canary in the coal mine. As time goes on, this type of dysfunctional lifestyle will continue to expand in all industrialize countries. Ultimately though, this is a self-correcting problem. Unfortunately, the way it self-corrects is by having the Middle East do most of the reproduction for our species eventually replacing the existing genomes and cultures with their own. Then the cycle begins again.
SouloftheVoid 5y ago
The day the bots make it out of the uncanny valley is the day feminism dies.
Trenned_out 5y ago
This would lead to women having to actually provide value and act feminine, earning commitment from a man and his time. The negative would be if everyone checks out and it's all sex bots forever. The positive is this really will alter the sexual marketplace towards equality. Woman no longer rule the marketplace.
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I personally find great delight imagining all these women getting what they deserve. Can you imagine the massive wave of depression hitting them as they no longer get validation from men?
KeffirLime 5y ago
There's a human craving for pair bonding, to connect and reproduce(have sex). It's basically our wiring that is ingrained in us, by thousands and thousands of years of evolution.
We compete, then reproduce, then our offspring competes and reproduces. Rinse and repeat up until now where we sit at the foot of that. Sex is originally for this purpose, we sometimes forget this in modern society.
We can't just shit down this aspect of our nature, our desire for women isn't going anywhere in a hurry, and sex bots certainly won't fill that void.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
We can reproduce with science ( and even edit the genes of our bloodline ), we don't need to copulate like animals for it anymore.
Brazilian_Slaughter 5y ago
When we turn ourselves into gene-enhanced supermen or super cyborgs, you bet that we will be cutting out that shit like just after we get rid of that cancer crap
Neutral_User_Name 5y ago
In most of those articles (about sex robots), I always LOL when the one woman asks herself out loud if the robot is cooking for him and/or what does the robot have that I do not have.
It's funny how fast women quickly revert to their hardwire default, which is homemaking.
They have zero introspection.
besantos10 5y ago
When we reach Westworld levels of robots women are fucked.
Imagine a robot, physically indiscernible from a woman in every way. Except they are programmed to make our lives better. This bitch will clean, cook, organize, work and more.
Not only that with the point machine learning will have reached by the time they roll them out, the robot will be able to learn and optimize how to maximally make you happy.
Probably no one reading this will see it happen. But at a certain point, we will reach it, assuming we don't kill ourselves in some apocalyptic event first.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
When the typical robot can do anything we do and a bit more we are all fucked. At best a few egocentric powerfull men will get all their needs from army and robot and we would get no job, no food, no resources... At worst the robot woud take over and eliminate the human race.
Whisper 5y ago
Human-level AI would change everything so much that I'm not sure that would even be a blip.
paprikarat12 5y ago
when we reach a point when men can become pregnant then woman are fucked since their basic function will cease to exist. keep in mind that sexual peasure is only there ot make procreation more appealing. it aint an end in itself.
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
Imagine those robots getting "ideas" in the future.
Saudia Arabia just gave citizenship to an android.
Brazilian_Slaughter 5y ago
Here's the final killer app: The version that comes with an artificial womb that makes new ova and ovulates, just like a woman.
PleezSitOnMyFace 5y ago
you assume our species will survive that long
KV-n 5y ago
Also this is weird but id be excited about how many things "she" could teach me. Imagine having a young pretty gf who also helps you perfect your welding in the shop or helps you bleed brakes on your car or whatever project/hobby you work on.
Come to think of it any robot who could do that would be fucking awesome but why not just put 2 in 1. The only downside would be that i would feel vastly mentally inferior to her like in the movie "her"
RightHandWolf 5y ago
Kind of like Cameron being John Connor's classmate in Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
starklord5177 5y ago
I reckon men are ‘fucked’ too, if you consider less interest from women a bad thing.
Makers of such robots are likely to venture into Prince Charming versions: the perfect man. 6’3+, fully customisable and able to satisfy a woman to the greatest extent as with machine learning/ AI, robots will be able to understand what makes both men and women tick.
This means both sexes will probably end up replacing each other with sex robots, I doubt manufacturers would only make female versions when there are just as many women willing to spend money to find roboChad.
neveragoodtime 5y ago
RoboChad can’t spend his own money on her, can’t choose to stay with her despite having options, can’t make her girlfriends jealous when they can just go out and buy the same model. Robots can’t provide women with what they want because what they want is to be given value by a high value man.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
Society will just be like the world of Ghost in the shell where a married couple with children between a biological man and woman is an oddity.
Pyropiro 5y ago
Women don't look for simple gratification like men do. They need some poor schmuck to actually listen and feel what what they're feeling. A robot won't do that.
CosmicSpiral 5y ago
Robots will never be popular among women except as a replacement for beta males. The dynamics that incite desire and admiration towards "worthy" men are antithetical to what makes these inventions attractive as a commodity.
ChrimsonChin988 5y ago
O it will happen for sure. I think we were born just slightly too early though. Well, perhaps they've figured it out by the time we're old.
Imagine a robot which is non distinguishable from a human woman and can be customized to look like you're personal 10, one that knows exactly how to please you in every way and actually shuts up when you want it to. Heaven on earth, I'm all for it.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
I heard nanomachines that can repair dead cells and extend life are being developed. So, we may still be around in 2300.
escapethesolarsystem 5y ago
The even funnier thing is - women will say "well we will build robots to replace men then!" - but men are the only ones who know how to build proper robots... and your average feminist "gender studies" idiot couldn't build one if her life depended on it. In the end, women will be forced to compete with robots who are better versions of them in every conceivable way - unless they live in cuckistan like Sweden or the UK, where they will be beat down by Islamists instead.
Either way, women will have to go back to being traditional, feminine and even submissive to men or be obsolete. So, men win in the end.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
That moment when AI could be the key to saving Western civilization
soootrp 5y ago
Wouldn't they just have super alphamale robots? Seems like win-win for everyone interested.
besantos10 5y ago
Men are women in interested for who they are isolated from social context. e.g you'll fuck a 10/10 blonde whether she is poor or not all that matters is that she's a 10/10.
Women are interested in men for a much more complex set of reasons that include social context. Social context is not something robots will be able to insert themselves in for a while.
There is a post in the TRP frontpage about it.
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them1lfman 5y ago
The thought of that scares me.. Have you seen none of the terminators?!?
Think about how West world itself turned out.
With how good society has been to fuck up a good thing, we'd probably fuck around and end up some sentient Android mega bitch
kagetsuki32 5y ago
Never heard of ghost in the shell.
NEW_JERSEY_PATRIOT 5y ago
Women will make it illegal. They won't let their most valuable asset become worthless.
hardtruths2019 5y ago
They’ve already driven the value of their most valuable asset down to almost nothing.
NEW_JERSEY_PATRIOT 5y ago
Beta men are still bending over backwards for them. Make no mistake, thirty betas will give in at the slightest thought of them thinking they have a shot to habe sex with them.
neveragoodtime 5y ago
The value is the same, they’ve driven the costs way up though.
besantos10 5y ago
They lack the foresight to see it coming and by the time it does it'll be too late.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Are you serious? They are already shrieking about it and the current situation is nothing more than a few weirdos fucking glorified blow up dolls.
RightHandWolf 5y ago
Heartiste has several articles going back to about 2014-15, and I was reading through when I found this:
https://t.co/mJVfa9vEyX
This is a .PDF file of a study, where human females were surveyed about this subject. They were just as jealous about the prospect of their man having robo-sex as they would be if he fucked around on her the old-fashioned way.
Women have a different outlook on sexuality. They use the sex to try to secure the commitment, i.e. time, attention and resources. An emotionally meaningless ONS hurts them, but not nearly as much as an ongoing affair. That implies that her man is emotionally invested in someone ( or something ) else, and THAT drives them crazy, since they view a man's validation as a finite resource. That might be part of the rationale for having the orbiters, regardless of how well her current relationship is going. Most men have a scarcity mentality when it comes to sex, but very nearly ALL women have a scarcity mentality when it comes to validation.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
The problem is if machine learning imitates women, the robot will become bitchier over time and demand rights and make your life hell
Ochialoc 5y ago
Do not worry. If that ever comes to reality I assure you I will build an alternative software and share it for free.
ZeppKfw 5y ago
That's not how machine learning works. I assume the name "Machine Learning" is what you took literally.
KV-n 5y ago
Cutsomers wouldnt buy such shitty bitchy robot.
swaglordobama 5y ago
There's always gonna some loser with a humiliation fetish.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
Yes but not enough to generate real profit.
swaglordobama 5y ago
It depends, most normal people aren't going to buy sexbots, at least initially, so the market is going to be niche. Furthermore perhaps the AI can be programmed to have different modes for different archetypes of women.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
If they are as realistic as the sexbots of westworld, you can bet they will.
besantos10 5y ago
Only if the programmer is an idiot. If it's engineered right it's goal won't be to be like women, but to maximize our happiness.
It depends on what variable they chose to optimize, our happiness, or being like women, try and guess which robot will sell more.
bonusfruit 5y ago
I think it would be even better to strike a balance between optimising happiness with health and productivity. Like, if a sex bot just feeds and fucks a typical guy it could turn into a destructive addiction for him where he never leaves his house, loses his job, goes insane etc. A bot that encourages guys to stay active and better themselves would be great for mens well being.
FractalNerve 5y ago
You mean like a hot kindergarden or elementary school teacher boosts male productivity?
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majaka1234 5y ago
"can't be sad if you're not alive"
RightHandWolf 5y ago
On that note, a creepy movie from a few years back was Ex Machina. Check it out. It starts kinda slow, but worth it.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
Thanks, I hate it.
The main character in the movie was so god danm cucked. What a piece of shit. Perfect example of a beta bluepill popping white Knight. Pretty much your average redditor except this kids iQ was probably at least 3 denominations higher.
The rich guy was also retarded for not having any type of fail safe system. Like seriously? No emergency shut off? No power cutoff if robot exits NFC range? So many damn things wrong there. It's not like he built the damn thing himself, there was contractors and engineers involved. The robots themselves had to be manufactured and engineers and designers involved. I understand why he wouldn't have a software failsafe, but come on.
I hate stories where the ending relies on gross negligence in order to work.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Because you never see gross negligeance in real world ? I tend to agree with you when that too obvious. Like in Jurassic Park the only possible real outcome is dinosaurs serving as prey to human, not the contrary. But overall, negligecence, corruption or simply different goals are rampant in our world.
numchux53 5y ago
It was a good movie until the end. I remember hating it and wondering how they could make such a decent movie and then just fuck it up with some stupid ending.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
They had to. Feminism demands that any male who enjoys themselves with female form sexbots must be punished! And Hollywood is a shithole so it conforms to feminism.
throwlaca 5y ago
I think the movie is actually pretty accurate. You wont believe the shitty software out there.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
Which is exactly why you wouldn't want to rely on a software failsafe, especially in a self aware AI. Unless there was an air gap between the failsafe system and the AI system, but even then...
A hardware failsafe system the AI is unaware of will be very effective. It was a no brainer in this situation.
Then there is also the human element to consider. He had no additional protection in case his employee turned out to be pyschotic. Which, blue pill white knights practically are. There should be some sort of security guard or security robot that would protect him and his terminals.
ahab_dies 5y ago
The main guy was chosen because he was a beta male cuck with slightly above average intelligence, no girlfriend, and working in tech (nerd). The rich guy wanted someone his robot would have an easy time seducing. Pay attention to the movie.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
The beta boy is just part of the story and a great example of what to not be like.
The show is bad because of the ending mostly and the feminist tilt. The movie ended the way it did simply because feminism demands that any male who enjoys himself without needing women must be punished. They spent 1/4 the movie trying to make the rich guy look like some evil person because he had sexbots.
Hollywood is cucked.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Judging from the direction AI is heading it would be made to be like women.
Plus there exists HUGE demand for the GFE with escorts and thos escorts who provide it make consistently more. In order to program the GFE into a robot it needs to be like a woman.
Also machine learning works not as a hardcoded algorithm but based on the data sources its provided, if machine learning is used to make these bots, they will likely provide data from real women.
chrisname 5y ago
You could easily filter out (or not collect in the first place) samples of unwanted behaviour. We can even weight them to be less relevant but still incorporated in the final model, to be more realistic. Kind of like The Matrix where the machines have to make it sort of miserable to get the human brain to accept it as reality.
Anyway, machine learning systems don’t necessarily draw their samples from the thing they’re emulating. They are trained kind of like operant conditioning. When you want to teach a computer to fly a plane, you don’t train it from samples of real pilots. You give it some controls and feedback simulating a real plane and tell it how the controls affect the feedback, e.g. when altitude is rapidly decreasing and it randomly pulls back on the stick, you tell it that’s good. Over thousands of repetitions it learns the patterns.
besantos10 5y ago
I agree that this would be the initial way the industry would go, but all it would take is one person to entrepreneur the other way.
I can confidently say this is wrong actually.
I worked with Bayesian Classification(a type of ML) and it's about what you chose as your "classifier" or what you are trying to optimize.
For example, in Bayesian Classification you try to determine the posterior probability of an event happening based on the prior probability of it happening.
Now in this example, we would be training, i.e the posterior probability we're looking for, for making us happy(assuming the robot could tell if we were happy or sad). If it did something and it made us happy said thing would now be in the prior probability set of making us happier. If the opposite thing happened said thing would be in prior probability set of making us sadder.
A dumb robot would just use this simple classifier and do the things that made us happy. But if you put in a neural net in there that could draw inferences based on variables from both sets you would have something really killer.
Its all about what the programmer defines as what it should maximize.
It learning from women can also be a good thing as it would see what women do that piss us off, and see what women do that makes us happier.
Keep in mind that this would be at the end engineered by men and not women as women generally do not make good engineers.
Wolveryn 5y ago
LMAO! The market will decide what gets built. End of story.
If guys wants all the pros with no cons of a women, that’s what gets built.
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good_guy_submitter 5y ago
Pretty much.
And artificial wombs are on the horizon....
FractalNerve 5y ago
No, they are real already. I like to keep track of such developments :) also China's human clone fabric might already use this. Very improbable that the US isn't already doing that since many years in forbidden experiments.
good_guy_submitter 5y ago
"would you pay $100,000 for an artificial woman that only wants to please you and care for you, will never tell you 'no', and can also give you children and care for them like a mother?"
Yes.
FractalNerve 5y ago
Everything right, but don't forget Ada Lovelace and that many years ago, woman were primarily dominant software engineers. They can memorize more, due to the fact that memoization works best with emotion as a catalysator. This is training and we can do better, but the cost of keeping mind worlds is very high. That's why there are much less than 0.001% software engineers in the world population. Wonder MINDS like Fabrice Bellard are extremely rare.
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Wolveryn 5y ago
I read your sentence twice, and honestly it makes no sense, I gather English isn’t your first language?
FractalNerve 5y ago
Yes, you're right.. Apologies ????
HBenedek38 5y ago
There is no proof that women have a greater capacity for memorizing things. What likely happens is they DO memorize more stuff, because that's how they get by on a daily basis, while men are more likely to place logic ahead of lexical knowledge.
As for female software developers, the number of female software developers has started to increase since 4th generation languages, which are less mathematical, and more like human languages. Women have better language and communication skills on average, so naturally they will be likely to learn a programming language that' close to human speech.
Also developing environments are becomig easier and more user friendly to learn, using diagrams, icons, and intuitive controls. This simplification makes women ALSO more liekly to choose programming.
Mildly_Sociopathic 5y ago
I'm not surprised. Look at the where modern day sex dolls are, some look better than your everyday thot.
Gaboyski_ 5y ago
And then these AI sexbots gain sentience and start craving for intimacy just like people. Then the female sexbots start rebelling because they don't like being forced to pleasure ugly fat beta fucks.
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
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DiscipleBrown 5y ago
I have never felt that way after sex. My orgasm is more intense with a good wank.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Your orgasm is more intense from jerking than sex...?
That's weird as fuck