Summary
This isn't a "what you should wear" post. It's not a fashion or style guide. This is a general discussion on what your appearance can and does say about you.
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Let me first begin by talking about why this belongs on the Red Pill, because your first inclination may be to write this off as some shitty personal advice. Or, you may have already escaped plato's cave and this is obvious to you. However, if framed in a specific way (which i'm about to do), your idea and importance of your appearance may change. I went through the first 29 years of my life wearing shitty clothes and shoes, getting shitty haircuts, and not realizing the signals I was sending to not only women, but other men.
The most important thing to understand with clothes, haircuts, jewelry, shoes, socks, watches, etc. is that it is a form of nonverbal communication. I'm sure you've heard this, but 60-65% of communication is done without using words--nonverbal.
Just like lifting creates muscle, which in turn signals your strength, stamina, etc., your appearance (clothes, etc.) signal different things. It quite literally says stuff about you. For example, imagine you are in line at the grocery store and see someone in front of you wearing this. You'd likely assume so many things about this person's profession (mechanic maybe?), skills, income, etc.
Women are naturally good nonverbal communicators. It makes sense too. For example, as a woman it would benefit you to be able to sense danger to you and your offspring. Women are generally weaker than men and being able to tune into nonverbal signs of danger would greatly benefit a woman. Also, being able to observe the characteristics in men that make them better than the next helps ensure good mates. For example, men with the posture of a head up and shoulders back are generally more competent and confident than someone with shoulders slumped forward. Our posture is actually driven by our limbic system which is way more honest than the neocortex which uses cognition and logic. It's been my experience that women are better than men at picking up on nonverbal communication and they are really good at seeing details. There may be several reasons including: they have more practice, they tend to observe more, they tend to use the limbic system more than the neocortex, etc. However, I don't know why this is the case, I just have observed it.
With all that said and without getting into a "fashion guide" I'll leave you with this advice -- choose your appearance consciously. You're strategy may be different than someone else (you may be a lawyer, musician, teacher, etc) and so I don't want to tell you exactly how you should dress. But, their are nonverbal appearance communications that are universal. For example, you know what this means without knowing any context. Same goes for your appearance. Hopefully your girlfriend, mom, or wife didn't dress you this morning. Assuming they didn't, that means you're to blame for the way you look. Man up and take control of what your telling everyone else. It's highly likely you wouldn't walk into a room full of people you don't know and shout "I don't have my shit together ladies, i'm low in social value, and i'm not good at anything."... Have you ever thought that maybe your appearance is doing that instead? Those dirty unpolished dress shoes you have on, they are telling other people you don't pay attention to detail. The hair that you haven't cut in 3 months, that's telling the girl at the bar "don't sleep with me" -- and you haven't even said a word. The list can go on and on.
Conclusion
In conclusion, consciously decide on these things: what clothes you wear, what cologne you use, your haircut, your jewelry/accessories, your tattoos, your facial hair, your shoes, etc. These things talk and women are listening. About a month ago I emptied my closet of all the shitty clothes and shoes I owned. I dropped about $2000 on a new basic attire that fits properly and isn't "trendy" (meaning they'd be fashionable for years). Not only do women notice, but men tend to want to talk to me more. I get a haircut and beard trim once every three weeks and get a lot of compliments on my hair. I clean my workout shoes on the weekends, polish my dress shoes for the work week, and wash my truck. These are the details women and men notice. There are all kinds of different shoes, cars, etc. but not a lot of them are well taken care of. Do the same with your body. Shave what you need to shave, eat what you need to eat. Let your presence alone say more than your words. I work in a profession in which I interact with highly successful people on a daily basis (one of my previous bosses sold his company for $500 million) and I've taken note on some of their characteristics. The most common trait I have found with these people is the attention to detail. So pay attention to your appearance and look at even the smallest things. My appearance used to say "I'm lazy and not willing to care about the little things". But, that's changing. I know everyone on the red pill says "just lift". Granted, lifting will increase your success with women and teach you discipline. Lift, but also do more. To me, the red pill is about maximizing all aspects of your manhood. Learning to maximize your appearance will take you to another level.
chacalate-smoovie 5y ago
"But officer, wearing low-slung jeans, a cap, dangling chains from my neck, walking with a limp, and pointing my finger as I walk - it's just my culture - what makes you think I be a gangsta?!!!!"
Shit like that makes me cringe - like, dude, you dress and walk to intimidate, then you say it's your "culture" you false piece of shit?! Nothing stopping you dressing normal and integrating with society.
chazthundergut 5y ago
I recommend y'all check out Guy Ritchie talking about dressing up:
https://youtu.be/rd3yeX1-SaM
"You must become the master of your own kingdom"
potatorockstar 5y ago
potato sacks make the best clothes.
silvertongue93 5y ago
Good clothes doesnt mean you have to buy the most expensive shit.
If you are fit and in shape, you can wear the smallest henley that will fit you for $10 at Wal Mart, and look good in it. Throw on some jeans and nice shoes and thats a good everyday outfit.
Invest in a blazer, a navy one and you can also wear that with jeans and nice shoes and look better than 80% of men out there provided the rest of you does not look like shit.
Those are just two easy things anyone can do to instantly upgrade their wardrobe.
Balderdash79 5y ago
This \^
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Find a simple style that looks good on your body type and stick with it.
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Another good method is to determine which celebrity you most resemble, and then searching them on Google images to find out what they tend to wear.
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My go-to is slim fit vintage jeans, plain white t-shirt, polished black cowboy boots, and a black tuxedo jacket.
Redhotlugnut 5y ago
I’ve been using this website for over a year now and it’s great.
https://lookastic.com/men
It’s got a ton of great suggestions and you can alter from casual to formal
If I could suggest two things it would be a pair of well fitted dark jeans and a tight black T-shirt. I’m still partial to the wider vneck as I have pecs and girls seem to notice it.
This along with a good pair of style sneakers or casual dress shoes will make for a very versitle look. Add a sport jacket and different shoes and you can show up anywhere.
If you live in an area where fashion isn’t really a thing (most blue collar towns) stick w the jeans and shirt, can’t go wrong.
jesseunlocked 5y ago
Thanks for the recommendation
RisingTideXIII 5y ago
My only disagreement with this post is the fact that if you have rock solid frame and actually know who the fuck you are clothes literally don't mean shit, as long as you dont look like shit which is what OP was getting at
As long as your look coincides with your vibe you'll be fine no matter how much you spend.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Nobody said it was about the price.
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Great post. "Just lift" is literally the stupidest thing I read on this subreddit. It just doesn't go away. I love making fun of it because the amount of emphasis and creedence this gets just makes me laugh. When I was sleeping with four to six different women in the same week, when I was my most prolific, those were the four years of my life where I didn't lift at all. didn't have time, I was too busy either banging a chick or taking another chick for coffee. Lifting is for people that have a lot of free time, time they're not using to spend plates. Totally agree with you on the dress part. When I lived in Alaska which has very few people and a ton of obesity, I looked like a mix between a small bodybuilder and underwear model, with a year round 8.5% body fat.
You either have game or you don't. Rick Ross is a fat fkkk. You either have money or you don't. Lifting does a lot of things to make your parents proud and make other guys tell you hey bro, you look good. How much ya squat/bench? By the time a girl is in my bed and sees me naked, they could care less if I had a six pack, I was still getting it in.
Vikingcel 5y ago
'Just lift' is preached here because low key everyone knowa looks are extremely important. If you're one of the 50% of men who have below average looks by nature, you can't afford to have just a mediocre body.
Not to mention that not everyone lives in a place where not being fat makes you above average.
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Are you fucking kidding? For the demographic TRP is trying to help, lifting is fundamental. It's sad that we've gotten further from it, to be quite honest.
[deleted] 5y ago
I've had the opposite experience. Hasn't even been a Top 5 in attracting women. This is coming from an avid lifter. The times in my life where I was most swimming in pussy was when I didn't lift at all. The reverse was also true.
[deleted] 5y ago
I don't doubt your point. I just don't think it's a general rule.
[deleted] 5y ago
Lifting is great for well being. It has a mild effect on body composition, much lower effect than diet (even if we don't like to admit this). I'm not convinced it has any effect on longevity. The people that I know lived into their 90s and 100s, none of them lifted any significant weight. They walked daily, and worked outside. The people I knew (and read about) obsessed with running and lifting died in their 70s.
If you have no self esteem I suppose starting to lift could get you on the right track to a better income and life outlook, but this is so far from what you need to reliably attract women. Just IMO. It's overrated too much on here, my observation.
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If you're talking body fat, granted.
But eating well doesn't grow your traps. I crossed some magical threshold about 6 months ago, and it's really hard to overstate how much better things are now. Just like the "hourglass figure" is the female standard of beauty, the "v-taper" is the male standard of beauty.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Fully agree. This isn't even attention to details. It just that people only interract with us with their senses and only perceive the apparences.
They have no idea how we are inside. At best they can sum experience they had with us and look for trends. Appearance is the only think valid out there.
So how you look, behave, the clothes, all say something. Contrary to what some pussy says it is never neutral. You can do what you want but it will have consequences.
Just understand it's reality and ensure you project the right image. It doesn't have to be the same for all, it doesn't even have to be that you pay lot of attention to detail. Whatever you do, this is message. Just be sure you send the message you want to project and not a counter productive one toward your goals.
Vouch33r 5y ago
An epitome of XXI century consumerism. Rotten to the core and egocentric. But totally and undoubtely true . You indeed are what you wear.
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Casd12 5y ago
fuck off with your consumerism bs. Buying clothes is just like killing a bear and wearing it but with extra steps. The only difference is hunting down money is different to hunting down animals, both requires skill or skillful parents.
miserablesisyphus 5y ago
I think this says more about human nature though. You don't necessarily need expensive clothes to look good. Clothes that fit properly are better than more expensive clothes. Clothes that accentuate your features are better than name brand. I'll admit, it's attractive to have clothes that are expensive because that means you have disposable income and such.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
This. In my younger days, I could wear Walmart clothes, and look pretty hot. (This was in the 80s, so, khakis and button downs were de rigeur). If you look good, and the clothing fits well, you are just as well off as having a 100 dollar shirt, etc...
Pestilence1911 5y ago
...but did you have the blue dragon button up dress shirt with all the flames?
Your_Coke_Dealer 5y ago
It’s not all about consumerism. Well fitting jeans and a black T-shirt could be anyone from an average Joe to a tech billionaire depending on how you carry yourself and who you surround yourself with.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
My default outfit. If you're fit and lean you don't need anything fancier.
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RevolutionaryPea7 5y ago
It doesn't have to be about consumerism. As a man you can and should be buying clothes that will last you years and years. Like the OP said, buy clothes that are stylish not trendy so you'll always look good.
Buy high quality clothes that won't fall apart after a year and take care of them. High quality clothes should be washed minimally and carefully. If it's wool you wash it by hand, but preferably not at all. Jeans get washed a couple of times a year max. Shoes should be very high quality and regularly maintained with cream polishes. When the heels and soles are worn you get them professionally repaired (if they are Goodyear welted than the original manufacturer will unstitch them and restitch on a new sole).
My plates go shopping for fun. That's consumerism. I have clothes that will last me the rest of my life and will always look good. That's what we should all do.
Vouch33r 5y ago
Didn't think about it that way. Such way of tackling the issue genuinely seems really pragmatic and mindful . Thank you for your opinion, I read it with pleasure.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Its not 1955 anymore. The expensive stuff is made in the same sweat shops as the cheap stuff -- it just has fancier labels.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Not at all.
There are still high quality clothes as well as all the rest, furniture and all. It isn't possible to get it for cheap. It isn't given if you spend a lot neither, but it is certainly possible.
Also you shall have the willingness to repair. Like a good car can last a long time but need care and the oil to be changed, this is the same for most things. But people prefer to buy cheap and to not repear/care.
RevolutionaryPea7 5y ago
With a little research you can find stuff that isn't just a fancy label. All of my shoes are handmade in Northamptonshire, England. I find that other quality garments stay together anyway, regardless of where they are made.
LosBuratnos 5y ago
That's true - buy a jumper for £20 and it will fall apart in 6 months. Buy a jumper for £60 and it will last years.
chacalate-smoovie 5y ago
100% untrue. What you buy is a lottery.
This is why reviews are so popular - because price is no indicator of quality.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
For clothes, if you are a bit interrested in it, you recognize the quality when you see it.
As for the price this is true for everything you may buy. Still quality has a price and it is really hard to find quality as a bargain. There often a reason for the rebate. Sales provide rebate for less popular models, colors and size. It is also well known too that products with constant rebates are now different series where they have cut on the quality.
Finally the best is simply unavailable at a discount. You are not going to find well design clothes tailored for you in the best fabric from talented tailor for a bargain.
You know to understand that you have to pay the price is part of the low of power. We got a politician that lost french president election recently because he got high quality clothes for free from a donator.
Usually, when something is too cheap, there are hidden costs.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Can't entirely agree. Price isn't a proper gauge. I've seen real shit go for big bucks.
Quality can cost money, but, spending money doesn't guarantee quality.
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Nicolas0631 5y ago
This isn't about consumerism.
The point is about what you want to project. As an elected member of the syndicate, as a banker or as a cooker people don't expect/want the same. Again not the same as a guy passionate with nature, as a socialite or a priest.
Know what you want to project and be, and ensure you look accordingly. That's it.
Maybe you want your anti consumerism, that's perfectly acceptable. If that's what you want to project, but be sure to accept the consequences too.
And by the way, consumerism is nothing but new. It is just accessible to more people right now than it was before, but powerful wealthy people did it for thousant of years.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
There are lots of times when you want to dress down. But your clothes -- even thrift store finds -- still need to work for you and the image you want to project.
BurnoutRS 5y ago
And isnt the message being projected by clothing, dependant on the perspective of the observer? Which is a product of the culture they are immersed in. In a consumerist society, symbolic value is king. The message your style of dress is projecting is a product of the perceived values, and characteristics inherent to the garments.
For instance if one culture values manual labor and another doesnt, the message that a work uniform would convey is totally different.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Sure but this is contextual. In a manual labor society, a successful man has a chubby girl with pale skin that need servents just to dress or eat. He and her would eat mostly meat as this is expensive and nobody can afford that.
In today society in US and western europe where everybody work in an office, the successful man has a slim and muscular wife that spend hours at the gym and is vegan. She is doing sport and has tanned skin.
Consumerism is most important in non consumerist society, like a communist country. Back in time in USRR if you managed consumerism, that was a huge statement. All the young wanted clothes from US.
In our consumerism society, your family having a building in Paris and NY for generations is a statement. Your wife having a neckplate of diamonds is a statement. You having an old car that is worth millions is a statement. Spending 3 months in a poor country doing charity is a statement. A selfie with the fake eiffel tower of Las Vegas just show how low status you are.
Changing car every 2-3 years is not a statement because almost everybody can do it. As buying clothes, electronics or whatever else all the time. In a consumerism society it only has vallue for the poorest of people out there.
If you care about consumerism, in a consumerist society you are doing it wrong. Things that last forever and thing that people can't consume easily are what has value in such society.
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BurnoutRS 5y ago
When the society has reached the point that consumerism is the norm, it can no longer stand as a status symbol to be consumerist. Makes sense. Thank you.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Yep, see how ecology and extreme veganism grows in rich consumerist countries. It is statement to care of not consuming too much in a consumerist society. And being anti consumerist is also a statement.
It is pointless as the vast majority of humanity doesn't have consumerism yet and in their country, consumerism is a statement. For every ecologist, vegan or consumerist that consume/eat/polute less, there 20 poor people that become a bit more wealthy and consume/eat/polute more.
frooschnate 5y ago
Coming from a respected and well known family is worth a lot more than being an arab oil baby too.
MrLackland 5y ago
As a newcomer to TRP posts like this confuse me. How is it 'alpha' to obsess over your appearance? Seems desperate for external validation to me.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Being alpha isn't about not giving a fuck. The local beggar doesn't give a fuck how he looks or even if he has a roof to sleep. See how it worked for them.
Being alpha is at the core being a successful people leader. Many things influence this capacity.
Charisma is a big part of it and clothing does play a quite significant role there, not as important as say the body language, but more important than you actual job title.
Remember that what truely count is the result.
MrLackland 5y ago
When we talk about successful people leaders, how often do we talk about how clean their workout shoes were?
HappinessIsYourDuty 5y ago
Nothing new. Many "redpillers" are so "alpha" that they are dependent on pussy/female validation/people's attention etc.
If someone is truly "alpha", he wears whatever the f he wants and focuses on his mission.
jonpe87 5y ago
The most important part is your shoes and your face
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DoneScannedIt 5y ago
I've been buying new clothes, off-the-rack, to do exactly this. I have had almost all my new clothes "adjusted" tailored-to-fit. I'm loosing weight, but I'm still a big guy. Having them altered at the local dry-cleaning and alterations shop, it has made a huge difference for me when they are fitted.
On the shoes, I have twice been told, by women (not girls), that they judge men on theirs shoes. One said, "If you can't take care of your shoes, how are you gunna take care of me?" And, from personal experience, I no longer go anywhere, including the hardware store, wearing white socks. This seems to have grown in importance over the last 10 years.
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aDrunkenWhaler 5y ago
Fit jeans + one-color slim fit t-shirt + designer shoes + belt to match shoes + classic brand watch. That is all you need to look great in most situations. Your lean muscles will do the rest of the 'non-verbal' talking.
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I have seen this so many times I wonder we can be spotted in the wild this way! But yeah, this outfit works well in almost every situation.
miserablesisyphus 5y ago
That's pretty much my weekend attire - Levi's, good-fitting grey/green/black Tshirt, black chukka boots, black gshock watch, gold rope necklace. Simple and relatively cheap (picked up the necklace at a pawn shop. I highly recommend checking pawn shops for jewelry, especially near the parts of town where drug dealers need money fast). People may have thought I was someone who dressed really elaborate by my post, but some times keeping it simple is best. The only caveat is that my boots look new, my jeans aren't wrinkled, and my beard is neat and hair is done.
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FREECRACK6 5y ago
One of the best things I’ve done for myself is to curate my own style, I’ve literally gotten laid from dressing well/cool. A good outfit will have you behaving like somebody else. There is a great series by Tom Ford (the goat) on YouTube where he upgrades guys’ style, everyone should check it out
Ethifury 5y ago
You mind posting a link to his channel? Tried finding it but can’t seem to find his.
FREECRACK6 5y ago
It’s on GQ. Just YouTube search: “tom Ford gq” should be one of the first ones
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rpbanker 5y ago
I wear a suit all day for work, and love how I'm treated because of it. Recently I've started picking up designer brands at thrift shops and off eBay and having them tailored to fit.
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McRoddy 5y ago
Of course, you gotta fit with a tribe. Maybe that’s the hood guys with jerseys, chains and tats. Maybe it’s the mysterious artsy guy with a guitar and a cardigan. All in all it helps to be in the same tribe as the girls ur tryna fuck.
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disciplined91 5y ago
Preach it dude. It's crazy how when you focus on the basic aspects of life, it makes a major difference.
Sexyladstik 5y ago
It's important to note that dressing nice and grooming yourself regularly is a responsibility one must take on to see success in the modern era. It is not however an alpha trait.
I see plenty of Billy beta pussys prance around in there trendy expensive clothes. Yet on the inside are weak men who may as well be woman with dicks due to the amount of time they focus on style and looks. On the other hand I see regularly dressed men pick up chicks naturally because on the inside they are confident strong willed men.
You need to change the inner before even worrying about the external. This is a great post and more men need to start grooming, cleaning, and dressing themselves like fucking adults. Don't read this and think "if I have a nice haircut I'll get pussy for sure!" Nope, you can have nasty greasy hair, shitty baggy clothes, smell like sewer and still fuck hot slutty bitches if you have true Chad composure.
Spibas 5y ago
HEY OP, WHY DON'T YOU BLOW YOURSELF FOR LOOKING THAT GOOD, HUH? ????????
miserablesisyphus 5y ago
No need, got someone else to do that for me ????
billybetasnan 5y ago
I just wear what I want lol.
Skeeter_onmyPeter 5y ago
It’s hard to find any men’s fashion guidance where they don’t make all of the men look like Nancy boys.
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slappysq 5y ago
If your lifts aren’t at 1/2/3/4 plates and 15% bf, don’t fucking bother with clothes and haircuts as it’s putting lipstick on a fat weak pig. Go to the gym before you go to the fucking mall.
E_Anonymous 5y ago
Mind outlining what some of this basic attire would be? I can always use an upgrade.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
It 100% dependant on what you target. What is your environement, who you are and who are your targets.
You don't dress the same as a street gang, a young college student, as a worker in comporate finance or a plumber. You also do dress the same depending of the currently activity... If you are going out, surfing, hiking or going to a wedding, you don't dress the same.
The best overall is to dress like people similar to the upper tier of the people of the group you want to be part of.
miserablesisyphus 5y ago
It just depends on your style. I think the classic go to for meis: good fitting jeans (I like the levis 511, good chinos, some nice fitting classic t shirts (black, white, grey, green, striped, etc), some Oxford buttondowns, a pair of brown and black boots (I like chukkas but a lot of people like Chelsea boots, a pair of casual stylish tennis shoes, black and brown dress shoes (derby or Oxford but Oxford is more dressy), matching belts, socks that match your pants most of the time, etc. That's a really simple wardrobe but really you can add different things depending on your style. For example, here in Florida I don't need sweaters or jackets often -- and because of the heat jeans and t-shirts are what I wear mostly. On week days I wear a suit to work, but I also play in a band in my free time so I love grey Levi's with a black or grey shirt and some black chukkas on the weekend. I also wear a 2mm gold rope necklace but don't really go for a lot of jewelry. Have fun with it
Spibas 5y ago
If your clothes define who you are, then you're fucking nothing. If external apparel define your interior, you're not even a ghost in the shell. You're just the shell.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Interior doesn't exist for other people. They can only see how you behave, speak, walk, look. They can only hear what other say of you and potentially double check for themselve.
Literally billion of betas fail to keep/seduce women because they think the women shall love them for themselve for their inner self and all.
FieldLine 5y ago
Hey, look, someone figured it out.
No one knows (can know) who you "really" are, or what your intentions are, Dorian. They only perceive your actions and your external appearance.
Internalizing this is a bit freeing, because it means you can transform yourself into whatever you want by simply changing your behavior.
Spibas 5y ago
And change of behavior comes from the change of values, which are generated internally. Thanks for trying, though.
FieldLine 5y ago
Incorrect.
(I quote another post not because it offers any more validity to my claim; rather, it is a clear and succinct summary of the point I am trying to convey.)
Snarky. Do you talk this way offline? It's rather unpleasant.
Spibas 5y ago
Well, apparently I am a different kind of a person. I first create value, then I follow up with behavior.
I'm SHOCKED if it's different for others.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
We don't argue how you do it, saying value shall come first, later or ever.
There no yet a way to rate people souls on sight so we say that there has to be something tangible to affect people.
Reformed65 5y ago
A large majority of guys in their early 20s are nobodies. Clothing is an excellent way to set the image of who you are. It's not clothes that define who you are, it's who you are that define the clothes you wear.
uwey 5y ago
Appearance is everything. Make sure you build people’s perception.
I don’t buy expensive stuff but I dress to draw attention and create the “larger than life” but classic and classy styles.
You need to pay more attention what message you bring on OTHERS and not really about reality. Your reality is not real because it is USELESS without recognition from others.
Yes indeed we live in other people’s collective mental construct. You need to curate the specific message you bring when you wear, and don’t keeping up with Joneses. Don’t let others dictate how you live but remember the law how to get attention at same time behave like others so you don’t get attack.
Be bourgeois (middle class) but speak upper class is the trick here. Humble brag is not the right way, mildly seduce audiences with your classy status is the key.
If you dress like sloppy person you might lose opportunity to climb up because you clearly don’t know the rule of engagement and human bureaucracy.
Spibas 5y ago
OP says you are what you wear, I'd say there are at least 10 more things that actually make you.
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Spibas 5y ago
Yeah. A man acting like a woman, with urges to be noticed and seen. A warlord of cute t-shirt and nice haircut. ????????
miserablesisyphus 5y ago
You're either ignorant or unobservant. Who you are (and want to be) internally should be reflected in your appearance. Because I choose to enhance myself and communicate with nonverbals doesn't mean I'm insecure. The same logic you're using could be used against lifting weights--"if you were really secure with yourself you wouldn't need to lift weight"...The red pill and human nature is hard to swallow. You need a big glass of water.
Spibas 5y ago
Muscles and apparel are two different things. One requires dedication and character, the other requires fucking nothing (some money). Everyone can buy clothes. Swallow that lol
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Muscles only come at a cost if you don't have the genetics and lifestyle. Reality is some people will grow some muscle just from the genetics + doing some outdoor activities they love. It is also well known that testo injections can make you grow more muscle than to work out without steroids.
And all else being equals, people will prefer the guy that is a natural rather than the guy that strugled to make it and that will likely loose it all if he just stop for 3 months.
As for clothes for an adult there is likely a minimal price that basically 90% of the population can afford without ever thinking of it.
The question is why one would want to play the game with an handicap even through the cost is just to aquire the knowledge something like a few hours over a lifetime ?
Redhotlugnut 5y ago
Yes but chicks don’t care about the struggle and effort that goes into building a great physique, only guys will.
Casd12 5y ago
Clothes like muscles dont define who you are. It simply showcases your character. Its the merely the outcome of who you are as a person.
Redhotlugnut 5y ago
I had a makeover from my buddy who is in the entertainment industry in LA. I shaved my head and thickened my beard to a Kenny Rogers thickness and the results are unreal. I get so many more looks than I did prior and my hair was only slightly longer. When I went back to LA with my new look (plus some dark aviator glasses) I got way more looks than I ever had on my Runyon Canyon hikes or just going out shopping. Everything else was the same as far as my clothing goes. I was the same person inside too.
So for me, this new look is easier to maintain and I get better results with first impressions. I could care less if my hair was my old style or not, makes no difference to me. I just know that this new style gets results so I’ll keep it and take his advice when he feels I should make a style adjustment.
Casd12 5y ago
The action of deciding to have a makeover is an reflection of who you are as a person. It showcases a willingness to embrace change, take risks for the purpose of improving yourself.
A lot of people associate what you wear as something shallow, which it isnt. What people decide to wear and how they dress showcases their mentality and therefore is an active reflection of who they are as a person.
Example:
Person who dress like shit would have traits:
Do I want to be friends with someone like this? fuck no.
So you're results oriented and you dress good? Are you saying clothes simply showcases your character. Its the merely the outcome of who you are as a person? no way.
Flying_Wingback 5y ago
Look up Under Armour threadborne siro 3/4 shirts if you have some muscle definition. They are an excellent material that defines your gains and could be worn to most places.
[deleted] 5y ago
Why specifically the Threadborne Siro line?
Flying_Wingback 5y ago
The thread is more cotton-like and definitely contours the body better than their other fabrics.