I'm subbed to shitreditsays. I originally thought this sub was a comedy sub, because all the posts were so funny. It took me a while to start reading the comments and realize that they were posting this content not because they thought it funny, but because they were so offended they had to find some like minded snowflakes to agree with them.
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Anyway, that's not the point of this post. The point is they posted this link:
AmItheAsshole/comments/bd5b72/aita_for_losing_my_virginity_with_another_guy/
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Which is a fun read. The short of it is that two idiots are in a relationship for 2.5 years with no sex, the man breaks up with her, and then she bangs some creep at work 3 days later.
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The woman's perspective:
I loved my ex, truly. But I just never felt "ready" throughout our relationship. I didn't want to rush and regret it immensely. After we broke up, I just felt so shitty about myself and thought I was the ugliest person on Earth and my coworker made me feel so beautiful. I realized that "saving" my virginity is why I lost the man I loved, so I thought "fuck it" and did it. I can understand him being hurt, but he doesn't have a claim on my body.
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The man's perspective (my summary):
Obviously sex wasn't that important since you just gave it away immediately to some stranger. So why did you string me along for all these years? Dumb hoe. I'm going to tell all my friends and have a good cry and ruin your reputation.
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The comments of this thread are honestly a shit show. Half are "YTA" (you're the asshole) and the other half are "NTA" (not the asshole) as everybody tries to figure out who's at fault, but nobody can pinpoint what the hell happened. It seems to me as if men are siding with the man and women are siding with the woman. Typical. Where do you stand? Can you piece it together? Do you see yourself anywhere in this story?
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Let me lay it out for you, because there's a good lesson. Essentially both people are idiots. You can protect yourself by:
A) Control the relationship and do it on your terms. Know your needs, know your rules, and know your partner.
B) Don't date children
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What the man did wrong:
The guy clearly had his own sexual needs and did not properly represent them. This lead to a lot of pent up frustration, which resulted in his inevitable "explosion" which shocked and confused the girl (he was always so nice, I don't get it). The root cause of failure for the man is weakness. He was too afraid to make his needs known. Had it been me, I would have broken up with her when it became clear she had an unsolvable sexual hangup. Sex is very important to me and I'm not going to bottle all those feelings up into a resentment bomb and then unleash them later. Read your woman. Chances are if you're dating the idiot in this story you will find out before you even have to waste an hour on her that she's a total ditz who can't figure anything in her life out.
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What the woman did wrong:
The girl, on the other hand, didn't realize any of this either. Her failure is pure negligence. She was neglectful to consider her partner's feelings. She was neglectful to consider her own feelings. She hoped that if she ignored all of it long enough the problem would somehow magically solve itself. It's possible she has some sort of trauma associated with sex, or at the very least she clearly doesn't understand it and needs to evolve in her understanding. Unfortunately she experimented in doing so only after it cost her everything.
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None of us should be surprised by the reaction of Reddit, of course, because Reddit is full of men just like the guy in the story. "Nice guys" that are willing to forego themselves for a clueless woman who doesn't know any better. The story offends Reddit because many people on here are also very weak and have the same story. It invokes the trauma they've felt in previous relationships.
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The moral of this story:
1) Represent your interests. Make them known. If the girl won't play by your rules, then GOOD. Now you don't have to waste 2.5 years on her and can move on immediately and find one who will. It's sexy to know what you want. Chances are that bitch woulda put out anyway if he had been firmer with his demands.
2) Get educated. Know how the world works. That way if you want to date a girl like in the story (your funeral), you'll be able to fix her warped perspective on sex. Once you reframe sex as "not a big deal" to her, then she'll put out. Better yet, use those brains to attract a non-broken woman.
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
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The problem wasn't a sexual hangup, it was that she wasn't sexually attracted to her BF. Clearly she didn't have a problem with sex because she gladly gave it up for Chad soon after.
You can't negotiate desire.
I like how you brought attention to this RP/BP example but you're simply wrong in your solution.
Blackphish88 5y ago
Its funny the see it as a claim on their body when it's like "Jesus why would you scratch up your own car?" For art. "No one will wanna buy that though. What are you thinking?".
24FPSNOOB 5y ago
I had a girl who wanted to fuck me. I was unable to respond to her advances. She then proceeded to friendzone leading to me releasing a lot of pent up frustration later when I knew what to do but she was unwilling. This lead to a horrible seperation. Unable to move on, I fucked my whole life(Drug addiction, jail, rehab, the whole 9 yards) . I now sit here 7 months sober, still a virgin@24 reading this forum trying to move on. If anything I'm hopeful but there's a lot to learn.
ring2ding 5y ago
I think everyone on this sub has some sort of trauma relating to that one bitch that desired our attention but rejected our affection. As a man it's an acute form of torture, but if you turn it around and use it as fuel to become the strongest version of yourself you'll go far. Check out Elliott Hulse. Hopefully one day you'll get to a point where she comes crawling back and you can tell her to go fuck herself because you found someone who actually loves you.
24FPSNOOB 5y ago
Thanks man. Will look into it.
Aurochbull 5y ago
That's a shitty story/situation and they're both idiots. There will always be idiots like those two: a pussy and a bitch who thinks her "feelings" are so deep and explain her cuntish ways.
Bottom line is this: There are people who are happy or content being either of these two. We are here because we are not. We're not whining little bitches, and that fact alone fucking feels good. The people in this story are like vegetarians to me. "Good. Fuck em. More meat for me."
cupshadow 5y ago
Well, that's his first mistake: you don't ask, you just act. Imagine going to a girl and be like "you wanna have sex? can I put you into bed?"
But I can understand his frustration, because I dated a virgin before and she kept me teasing for 3 or 4 months before she gave in. Imagine hearing a lots of "no" or "not right know" when your dick is hard as a rock, with have a semi naked with just her panties on. How would you feel? Can you imagine?
Then you break up with her and she just fuck some random guy. Your world just collapses. It's very tempting to say "oh, it's just how woman works" and be ok with that after being on TRP for a long time. But for a blue pilled guy...
FaggoDeluxe 5y ago
Everyone siding with the guy is still blue pilled as all hell.
As a man it's your job to turn the woman on and fuck her. The man acts, the woman responds. The guy clearly had no idea what he was doing. She felt no sexual feelings for him but couldn't admit it to herself.
The absolute second a real man came up to her and gave her the tingles she has been missing for years and she had plausible deniability, she fucked him. All according to biology. Women don't logically choose to have sex, they just listen to their emotions.
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FalconWrite 5y ago
Sweet merciful fucking Christ shit on a Ritz. And I thought I felt lousy when my first little unicorn teenybopper oneitis that I only I kissed and orbited for a couple months lost her v-card to somebody else who just escalated better. This motherfucker though. 2.5 years of getting brutally blueballed in a committed relationship, totally celibate, all just for that slap in the face as the grand finale. Shit dude. That's like anime supervillain origin story level bad. You know it's bad when fucking Reddit calls a girl an asshole. A newly initiated and very, very angry young brother may be joining the ranks soon.
You either die a lovesick teenage boyfriend, or live long enough to see yourself become the sketchy mid-thirties coworker
Jazzeater 5y ago
I read this post on before I saw it on TRP and my jaw dropped. What an absolutely oblivious, terrible, and weak person she must be.
max_peenor 5y ago
And we won't be having kind things to say to him.
Yes, I understand that when we are young we all live in a dream world where eventually justice prevails and the fair maiden spreads her legs begs us to fuck her like a two dollar whore. He deserves a slap in the face to wake the fuck up. There is no eventual justice. There is either desire or no desire. She loved what he did for her. She did not want him to fuck her.
She goes on about how the older guy made her feel sexy, when the boyfriend didn't. Yes, this is probably true, but that's because he actually escalated with her and directly sexualized her. That last part is key because it is the final pillar of attraction. Women are sexually attracted to men that are sexually expressive. I've run this experiment myself in the past. You have to sexualize them or they won't get tingles.
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TwentyEighteen 5y ago
Then the house lets some homeless dude sleep in the house 3 days after foreclosure
johnnight 5y ago
This is what romantic programming does to a man's brain. He gets told that he has to 'invest' and if he doesn't get the desired result, that's because he has not invested enough. And then he finds out others sneak to Disney Land without paying.
pootaboo 5y ago
This is entirely accurate. It’s weakness and romantic programming. This is similar to my RP story, which I’ve been meaning to share.
I was in a relationship waiting for sex for 3.5 years instead of 2.5. I was strung along with blowjobs at the promise of sex at marriage. This is when I was introduced to the RP. I ended up having sex with her for the last 6 months only to realize this was not in any means worth it.
I am lucky to say that I learned my lesson before getting stuck in a shit marriage and getting divorce raped. It come at a great price, the prime of my college years.
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iambecomechad1 5y ago
All those cucks in that feed bashing the woman like she is uniquely bad don’t understand AWALT.
EgocentricMegaloMan 5y ago
I get it, I understand all of it, the dynamics, the reality, etc.
But holy fuck I feel bad for this kid.
Lesson for the young guys: be the coworker
Captain_Quick 5y ago
"Don't date children" is always good advice. I remember when I was first told that in Jr high health class.
ring2ding 5y ago
If only Michael Jackson would have listened
RightHandWolf 5y ago
The Michael Jackson clothing store is having a sale. All boys pants are half off thru Easter!
Mangasbzo7 5y ago
Stories like this make me laugh. Sex is so meaningless in today's society. A sexy smile is literally most western women's minimum criteria to let you fuck them.
When sex has been devalued so much that its practically free these days, then to see someone in a relationship with a woman for YEARS desperately hoping one day she'll climb on his dick lol - simply mind boggling
Justanotherredditt 5y ago
This is humiliation on another level. This girl just bodied her ex, and yea while I don’t agree with his childish response to it it’s perfectly understandable. Can you imagine thinking you had some unicorn virgin who was saving herself for marriage, only to be fucked like a whore by a coworker 3 days after being with someone for 2.5 years? This was not a clueless act, she did what she did out of spite to her ex and is trying to hamster what she did as “buuutt I felt unattractive and lonely!!!!!1!1!!” Yea? You felt unattractive for the 2.5 years your bf was trying to fuck you?
Another case of “child does something stupid and does not want to accept responsibility for their actions”.
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Blackphish88 5y ago
They both suck. Her naturally, him by allowing it. Fair nuff?
TwentyEighteen 5y ago
He fucked up, but it doesn’t mean she’s not a shitty person
Aro2220 5y ago
The guy is to blame. The girl is a total cunt. Pretty straight forward.
RX0II 5y ago
Exactly. A huge number of stories about female bad behavior is really about men enabling bad behavior, like this guy does.
Justanotherredditt 5y ago
I’m more referring to her actions after she broke up. She was clearly trying to get back at him, and is upset at how the truth is painting her in her friends eyes (as is evident in her responses in the comments). Everyone is responsible for their own actions, this situation is no different.
iambecomechad1 5y ago
One of the central tenets of Red Pill is don’t blame women, understand them instead.
It’s like getting annoyed at your dog for rolling in poop - it’s a fucking dog, what do you expect?
Justanotherredditt 5y ago
I said in my original post his response was childish. This also isn’t about assigning blame, but that doesn’t mean she should not be held accountable for her actions. His behavior might have been a catalyst, but he did not tell her to go fuck some creep 3 days after they broke up, and then have her blame it on feeling “unwanted”. That’s utter bullshit.
iambecomechad1 5y ago
I hear what you’re saying, but never in my entire life have I heard of a woman with any degree of attractiveness being accountable for her actions.
Whenever they fuck up and piss off a guy to the point he won’t put up with their shit anymore, there is always a steady stream of AFCs waiting to tell them how “Misunderstood” they are and how actually their ex was just an ass hole who didn’t appreciate them.
I don’t necessarily blame the women for this because when they never have a negative feedback loop for bad behaviours and in fact they get the positive feedback of having more attention from AFCs because the AFCs think she is “On the market” - then they’re never going to learn there are consequences to their actions.
Aro2220 5y ago
I believe women can be a little more conscious than this lady.
ThisWickedMinistry 5y ago
Some can, but a teenager is still a teenager
Peshquabz 5y ago
Was she truly clueless?
Or did she simply not like the guy (her 'boyfriend') on an animalistic/physical level, and thus used him as a betabux?
She certainly gave up her pussy to the guy at her work quickly enough, suggesting that maybe the exboyfriend had some inherent fault, that made him repugnant on some level to her.
throwaway-aa2 5y ago
Yup. What's funny, is that after doing this, she STILL wouldn't fuck him probably. Let's go even deeper: had he not done what he did, how much longer would she have needed to fuck him? Let's go deeper: if her boyfriend was an asshole, how quickly would she have let him fuck? The reality is that all these are uncomfortable questions which she definitely hasn't asked her self, and if someone else asked her, her first priority would be to shift any culpability or wrong doing. So again guys: lean sexual strategy, and ignore what women say.
max_peenor 5y ago
Some? It was completely his fault.
He was not attractive enough, he did not sexualize her, he did not escalate and he did not pull the sheets until 2.5 years of self tugging. Hell, he didn't even get a teenie-bopper-handy from her, being that maybe she was just not ready for sex itself. Couldn't even land that.
So yeah, no, I don't blame her for getting railed by someone that knew what they were doing. That was a substantial upgrade for her.
Meanwhile, the bloops will reeeeee about how younger women are gross if they want old guys....
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
And by "quickly enough" of course that means "She'd been fucking Todd from accounting the whole 2 1/2 year relationship which is why she didn't mind letting the OP support her without demanding sex".
/clarification
ring2ding 5y ago
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. I've met a lot of girls where "sex is some magical thing and bla bla bla". Lightning has to strike in just the right way. The reality with women like that is when you make them panic a little that they might lose you if they continue to be stupid then they grow up, but only when forced to. You're right that yeah it may be some biological programming which ensures her mate has strength. But regardless, yes she is stupid and clueless because she should have realized that if that dummy wasn't going to fuck her within the first 3 months then he probably never would have sacked up and that something was very wrong with her relationship.
bestsparkyalive 5y ago
What a cuck show man. Just 2 retards. Thank fuck they didn’t have offspring.
Sad_Sleeper 5y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mcy5-0wFlk
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This one sums it up. Some 23 guy wanted to marry a virgin girl hahah
TwentyEighteen 5y ago
The comments in that sub are interesting. It’s a bunch of people complaining that reddit, which is already left leaning, isn’t far left enough
Your_Coke_Dealer 5y ago
AITA took the worst of the Relationships sub, Tumblr (RIP to the SJW-containment porn site), and the hivemind of r-All and puts them together to judge people who don’t realize exactly how biased this conglomeration is.
max_peenor 5y ago
SRS is the militant wing of TwoXChromoreeeeeees. This is literally their life.
ring2ding 5y ago
It's mostly trans people from what I've seen. And yeah they can be pretty militant. But what would you expect from a community with almost 50% suicide rate.
johnnight 5y ago
woman: tells bf for 2.5 years that he is sexually unwanted
also woman: "I felt unwanted for 3 days"
p.s. Notice how people always excuse the actions that result from their (uncontrollable) emotions, but expect others to have full control over their actions and emotions. To have an "appropriate response", to "talk each other maturely" and "get past this hurdle" (that is your reaction that I do not want).
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anrii188 5y ago
I feel in "explosion" mode. But i can t find where to explode coz i don t know how to explode.????????
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