Intro
I am coming off the hottest streak with women of my life right now, and I feel like I have learned more than I ever have before. In the last 10 days or so, I have fucked my main girl, HB8, a bunch, I had a threesome with her and another HB8 that I picked up, I had a ONS with a HB6 from my class, and to top it all off I had a ONS (hoping to plate next) with the hottest girl I've ever fucked by a landslide, a HB9 last night. And the point I want to make in this post is that none of this could have happened if I'd rejected myself, and there were many opportunities to reject myself.
Body 1
I'm calling this body one because there's really two stories of the four I should share here. The threesome and the HB9 are what were the most enlightening, imo. Anyways, threesome first.
Basically, this HB8 girl met me and my main girl while out one night through our mutual friend. To abridge the story a bit, continuously throughout the night she was telling us all about "her guy" and how much she loved him, etc. At the same time, she was sending us positive signals that she liked us, wanted to hang out with us more, etc.
Of course, it would have been easy to accept this as an invitation to be "friends" and reject myself sexually. Nah. We/I pushed the conversation sexually, and she revealed she's done threesomes in the past. We let her know that we'd done them too and then the conversation went that direction.
Still, doesn't she have a guy? She talked about him a FUCKTON. But she was drinking with us, the conversation was pretty sexual, and she was evidently open to sexual deviance as I'll call it. So, fuck it, right? We invite her back to my place to drink more with us, and the wine bottle we had wasn't even opened.
Also important to note: nothing was that sexual when we first got back. Would have been easy yet again to interpret it as she was not down. Instead, I started running some hands on her, and she did not resist. The lack of a red light is a green light. Soon after, we all fucked. Don't reject yourself--push towards the goal you want.
Now time for the story I think is even better.
Body 2
So, last night. Hottest girl I've ever fucked. Funny story, actually.
We matched on Tinder, and honestly, I thought she was a fake account. She had model pictures, no bio, no instagram linked, etc. Basically, it was just a textbook catfish account with three pictures of a girl who definitely models or something. I actually sent her account to my friend and asked him "what are the odds this is a dude?" lmfao. He told me not to even message her.
But I did. Because why not? At worst it'd be a good laugh.
So I start messaging, and she way overuses emojis, and I'm just thinking.... yeah, this girl is fake. Nobody texts like that. Honestly, I also just thought she was out of my league ESPECIALLY on tinder because I've never fucked a girl that hot, especially not off of tinder. But it was low pressure, so I just kept messaging.
A few messages later, I get a snap--hard to fake being real on snap, right? Well, she will hardly send pictures of herself on snapchat--they're all weirdly covering her face and stuff. I call her out on it, and she sends a couple where you can see her face. So at the very least, she's real.
Anyways, still not expecting much, I keep plowing ahead. I invite her out one night and she flakes--it's nbd, I hit up my main girl last minute because she did give me a decent heads up. She's in an intense major and it's finals at my college right now, so it's understandable. I also feel like she's interested, so I keep plowing. I go no-contact for a few days, over the weekend send some snaps from a cool party I went to and nothing else.
Come Monday I set up a second date, and she asks for it to be in public. Obviously it's so she doesn't go to a creeper's house, and she wants to vet me first. I honestly just expected her to flake at this point since she seemed hesitant and a little weird about things.
Anyways, I show up at our date and she did say she was going as well beforehand and texted to confirm it to me. Funny story: my phone is broken right now, so when I got there first, I just had to hope she'd come and I had no way to communicate if she flaked last minute. She was like five minutes late, and I actually considered leaving but stuck to it.
Anyways, she shows up, and damn, hottest girl I've seen in a while. At the dinner she keeps shit-testing me about doing different things for her, to which I'd just reply things like "if you're lucky," "maybe," "what are you gonna do to earn that?" etc. I could really tell she knew she was really fucking hot and was used to guys bending over backwards to please her. For that reason I kinda wondered if she was just seeking an orbiter in me, but again, I just kept going and stuck to the same game I run on every girl. Cocky, funny, nonchalant, chill.
So we go back to my place, and she actually fucking whips out a laptop to have me help her do homework. I just start pouring wine and say "I hope you like doing work drunk." We start drinking, and I don't really help with any of her bitch work. That's what I'd do for a "normal" girl, so I just kept moving forward and ignoring her shit.
Anyways, around this time, the frame started to shift. Maybe it was the wine, lol. She starts saying things like "huh, you're actually really cute. You're so funny I love your personality. You're hot. Do you do this with every girl? Am I just another easy lay from tinder for you?" etc etc. And she tried ASDing saying things like, "I already deleted Tinder. Everyone just wanted to fuck me. I'm recently out of a relationship. I wouldn't even send you pictures of me at first because everyone just wants to fuck me when they see me." And she threw a barrage of other shit tests in there too. Idk that I passed them ALL, but I definitely passed enough.
Because soon after, we were making out naked and, oh no, it slipped in! And once it was in, she kinda just went for it. She'd told me no sex before that, but eh, she seemed down, so I kept pushing forward. She later told me she loved how aggressive I was towards her sexually and that she usually can't get that out of guys lol. A.K.A. most guys melt in her presence.
Anyways, the point of this story is this: this was not a girl I would have told you I could fuck. Being completely honest, in a bar, club, class, etc, I probably would not approach a girl that hot. I mostly peak at 7s and 8s, you know, the more common hot girls. I feel comfortable around them and gaming them, and my SMV is decent, so it works out for me.
Before yesterday, I did not think a true hot as fuck 9 would want me. But I kept falling back on my recently-found abundance, sticking to how I wanted to act and how I wanted our night to go, keeping a strong frame, using my charming personality........ and surprise, surprise, HB9s are just as much women as the rest of them. That is, they have the same exact emotional buttons as every single other girl on the planet. And honestly, if I learned anything from this situation, it's that just by not falling into their frame at the drop of a fucking hat you stand out. I literally stood out to this girl because I was composed enough to be funny, confident enough to make moves on her, and had strong enough frame to not just start doing whatever tasks she asked of me. All I really did, and I fucked an amazingly hot girl.
Conclusion
Do not reject yourself. If you think a girl is fuckable and you're in a situation to game her, run your game on her. No excuses. You don't know who is and is not down until you have them in your room and start escalating. Anything beyond that is speculation. I am nothing that special--I am fairly attractive and fairly charismatic, but I'm nowhere near top tier in either category. A few years ago, I was a kissless virgin. And now I laid pipe to a model an hour and a half after meeting her off of Tinder. Because I tried to. You can do it too.
fds_1 4y ago
As Rolo says, there are no leagues. Always let a women decide if she wants to sleep with you.
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kasperkavalaris 4y ago
Congratulations man. Inspiring story.
I’m still struggling. Can you suggest any books or YouTube links that were instrumental in changing your perspective?
freew33zy 4y ago
My best recommendation is field experience. I can say I've been in the game for about three years now, actually trying, and this is the progression of things.
Year 1: mostly failure, hundreds of approaches, didn't get shit except one lay (besides many, many makeouts and # closes that flaked). That one lay was a pretty cool girl who was chubby with a hot face that I then trained to become hot (lose weight) using my natural leaderly skills, despite not being that "Alpha" or anything.
Year 2: gain some confidence because I was "with a hot girl" and we had an arrangement where I could get other girls and she didn't mind (same main girl as now) so I got some lays. Nothing amazing, though. But I was still going out and gaming a lot, making a lot of moves. Also started hitting the gym year two.
Year 3: gym gains start showing--I'm not jacked, but again, you can tell I lift. I keep putting myself out there, developing game, scored some threesomes and stuff--leads to increased confidence. The original girl I got, by this time, has SMV-maxed so she's massive preselection by now. Continuing to game her and interact with her and her hot friends means I'm always talking to hot girls and I'm just more seasoned/sharper at this point than other guys. And this is the year I've really started killing it. My total n-count is a little north of 20, and since January, I've had like 8. Mostly better quality than in the past as well.
So, yeah, I liked RSD and TRP while I was developing--and still frequent TRP. But there's no substitute for just being around attractive girls a lot. I am able to be so free-feeling around attractive girls because I am around them a lot, so it would be more weird if I felt like it was a big deal than didn't. How you replicate that is up to you, but it is a good move if you can execute it. Even if they're just friends.
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i_love_chicks 4y ago
how the fuck can i get in the same state of mind as this dude
freew33zy 4y ago
Fail. A lot. I've been rejected by girls you wouldn't even want to fuck. Plenty of them. I've also fucked plenty of girls most guys go googly-eyes over. I was a kissless virgin until I got to college and convinced I'd be an incel. But I just kept putting myself out there, making small changes here and there, started seeing some success, let it fuel my confidence, built upon said confidence with more success, and the process starts to make sense. And before you know it, you don't even really relate to the version of yourself that couldn't speak to a girl without his knees buckling, lol. But the most important, and hardest part, is getting yourself out there, not expecting it to go well, and just being a student of what is and is not effective. What you can and cannot incorporate into your game going forward to get the best results.
Oh, and lift. Very important.
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RightHandWolf 4y ago
Congratulations on the progression, and nice job on laying out a timeline. Lots of people expect instant results and don't want to put in the effort. This applies to everything you want to do. I used to have a bootleg tape of Stevie Ray Vaughan at an Austin venue around 1978 or so. Funny thing is, yes, it sounds a little like the Stevie Ray Vaughan he would become, but his playing was kind of hesitant, and the sound wasn't fully formed yet. He was good, damn good, but he wasn't quite there yet. He kept on pushing himself and polishing his skills to become a legend. That's what TRP requires - just keep pushing a little farther and a little faster. The difference between good and great isn't talent; the difference is how much of that talent has been developed.
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deathbya1000cocks 4y ago
How do I keep my knees from buckling? Every time I try to cold approach a hottie in the daytime I end up feeling extremely excited my fucking hands are shaking like crazy I feel like I'm about to have a seizure. It's too much of a rush, feels good but I bet my whole body-language and face screams I'm about to bust a nut because of the excitement.
freew33zy 4y ago
You just keep doing it. Think of it like driving a car. The first time you drove a car and didn't know if you could do it, it was kind of scary, no? But then you did it and realized you could do it until slowly it was no big deal at all and you didn't even think about driving a car as a big deal anymore. Think of it like that. You get desensitized over time, and if anything, the thrill is just fun at a certain point.
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henryblazer 4y ago
I lift...how can i build on lifting?
freew33zy 4y ago
Progressively lift more. Eat lots of calories and enough protein. I'm not sure what your question is.
henryblazer 4y ago
Elevating my game building off of lifting
freew33zy 4y ago
Just keep shooting your shot, and over time they'll start to drop. Make small adjustments as you go.
Sigdeff 4y ago
You give me hope sir, keep slaying
NobodyP1 4y ago
Best words “If your lucky, maybe, and what are your going to do to earn that” I need to hear that thanks
FaggoDeluxe 4y ago
Nice going, dude! The lay may have seemed "effortless" but behind that is years of practice, failure, rejection, and learning. Don't ever stop!
Standgrounding 4y ago
Alright, now to get one in your room (or yourself in her room)...
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