The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
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therandomthrowaway 10y ago
I fucking lost it laughing at the first comment I read:
"The problem is that while women are becoming more accomplished than ever, men are falling behind. As a result the pool of dateable men is around 20%. No woman should be forced to settle. Only a misogynist would force a woman to settle for something less than she deserves. "
She completely missed the fucking point of "never settling = cat lady" and that the whole concept that a woman is "settling" is what is causing their misery in the first place. No one is forcing anything, but someone who hates women will tell them to keep hanging on to their delusional belief that they "deserve" some imaginary prince, until they're firmly stuck in their old, bitter, cat-centric lives.
Realist does not equal misogynist.
Helmut_Newton 10y ago
Yeah, most women (excluding 9-10s under 33) HAVE to settle at some point. They either settle for a beta provider, or they settle for some cat lovin'.
t21spectre 10y ago
they settle to be cat farmers
FTFY
whatchagonnado234238 10y ago
Entitlement, entitlement everywhere. Because we work hard at improving ourselves so you can 'pick us out a shelf'. Fucking bitch.
30years 10y ago
One thing I am learning, and I am not saying you really believe any differently, is that improving myself is for myself. If it gets me more women, that's great-provided I wan to give some time to them. If not, that's cool, too. Because I love me more than any potential pussy down the road.
enticingasthatmaybe 10y ago
He's not inferring that, but it would be intellectually dishonest not to realize that we have to put in tons of real meat on steel work if we even want to be on the shelf at all.
semigod_ 10y ago
this is a brilliant thought. i remember having heard that too much choice reduces consumption from marketing, but i never connected it with dating.
but it makes perfectly sense. the more populated a city is, the higher is the percentage of singles.
i think the phenomenon is even more distinct among females, given their chronic indecisiveness.
therandomthrowaway 10y ago
Also, we have to realize that they are not just comparing the men around them to each other... they are also comparing them to the famous celebrities that fill those stupid magazines they love. For all their bullshit that men objectify women, men generally do not turn down a 7+ willing to bang just because they aren't Scarlett Johannson. However, women ARE willing to turn down a decent man who could make their days/nights better if they had a chance to fuck Danny Devito, just because he's rich/famous. (No disrespect to Devito, he just ain't a handsome man... but they'd fuck him.)
In their minds, they think they deserve what I call "hybrid Brad Pitt", who looks like the young, fit Brad in Troy, and has the wealth and fame of older Brad (see: Christian Grey from 50 shades of Grey), and are comparing all men they meet to this imaginary "I DESERVE!" standard.
30years 10y ago
In ads we create for our clients, we limit choices to generate more online clicks. Works like a charm. Often we use "act or leave" and it generates far more clicks than "1 or 2?"
Edit: Wouldn't this also indicate that when a woman we are interested in believes she faces the choice of "have this guy now" or "lose him forever," fear of loss would move her to take the guy then? Isn't this the value of "walking away" and "having other options"?
AlmostRP 10y ago
Not just reduced consumption, but too many choices raises expectations and lowers happiness through disappointment.
[deleted] 10y ago
The usual.
A woman who can't find a man that meets her standards is strong, empowered, and assertive and men need to man up and stop sitting around playing video games. Men are at fault.
A man who can't find a woman who meets his standards has entitlement issues, sees women as objects, is shallow and needs to stop being so patriarchal and shaming. Men are at fault.
HumanSockPuppet 10y ago
I wouldn't say this article is Red Pill, per se, but it is an excellent example of why women were made to feel inferior to men in eras past.
Men of past eras understood female hypergamy. They understood that a woman can not feel sustained attraction for a man if she feels he is not her superior. So, for the good of both men and women, society reinforced the idea that - all other things being equal - a woman was still inferior to a man.
The purpose of this "institutionalized misogyny" was to ensure that men and women pair-bonded at their level. Females 7s regarded male 7s as their superiors, and felt satisfied in relationships with them; as did 9s with 9s, 5s with 5s, etc. This had the benefit of both keeping women faithful and happy, and with giving men an incentive to be productive by working to maintain that earnings gap so they can win and sustain the respect of their mate.
Under modern-day views of gender "equality", a female 6 no longer feels satisfied with a male 6. Only a 7-8+ male will really set off those tingles that keep her pair-bonded and loyal. Now, men have to work doubly hard to close the perceived gap in value - and considering how inflated the female ego has become, even that extra effort on his part is no guarantee that he'll be able to close the gap and secure himself a mate.
As a result, many men are giving up the race and becoming burdens on society rather than producers. These men are only doing the bare minimum necessary to survive since, in their minds, the only outcome of working hard is to either have taken for granted by a woman they date, or to have it literally taken in the divorce. And so our civilization slowly comes apart - all because we set down our tomahawks on the war path to feed the laziness of our women.
That's why it's important to not take women seriously. The purpose of belittling women, ignoring their petty grievances, and reducing them to the status of children is to put them back into that place where THEY are the ones who begin at a state of social deficit, and must prove themselves worthy of a man's attention. It's about deflating their over-inflated egos and getting them to appreciate the men at their level once more.
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Some RP replies in the comment section:
AlmostRP 10y ago
I'm really sick of the Huffing and Puffington Post.
30years 10y ago
I am new here, so feel free to correct me, but isn't dating for women a race? They have a very limited time to remain fertile and sexually attractive to men. Yes, I am dating women in their 40's right now, but I am new to the game. I suspect as I refine myself, I will be dating women in their 30's.
Women, on the other hand, don't usually have that luxury.
test_ost 10y ago
Exactly right, which is why feminism is really screwing with them.
Women trying to follow a MALE pattern for success end up undermining their own biology.
Note that almost all women want children, and for most it's the MAIN thing they want in life.
Obviously then, shoving it off until some arbitrary time in the distant future is fucking up their own goals and happiness.
For any woman whose main life ambition is having kids, the proper sequence of events is:
Feminism fucks this up. Women end up waiting until after 30 to START thinking about a family, and of course the kind of man they can get at that point is far less than they could've gotten 10 years earlier.
They end up having to interrupt their careers, and by the time they get back to it, they are way behind where they used to be, which is discouraging, and much older.
So they end up "settling" in EVERY way. Too old, career on hold, 3rd choice beta provider, etc., etc.
The way I outlined above lets them keep moving forward with no interruptions. And they got to use their youthful energy to play with their kids, and could relate to them more, because there is less of an age (and hence culture) gap. And they got a man who matched their peak SMV, which will always make them happier -- even if they split up, the kids connect them forever -- than any beta provider would (they wish he would leave!).
Feminism isn't really about men, it's about manipulating the ATTRACTIVE WOMEN to take them out of the marriage market until their peak SMV expires. This lets the less-attractive women compete on an older, saggier playing field. The smart feminist will follow the plan I outlined above, while convincing the hotter women to go to college, then have a career and ride the carousel and not settle down. This lets a younger, peak 6 compete against over-30 women who used to be 8s but have dropped to sixes.
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30years 10y ago
Good point.
Nemester 10y ago
I remember this concept originally from some study on retirement savings. They found that people offered too many choices on retirement plans didn't save anything at all. They were just too overwhelmed by the choices and tried to avoid making a decision.
It doesn't surprise me that this concept might work in other areas of life as well.
[deleted] 10y ago
I'm not sure I understand this concept completely. Wouldn't a wider range of selection be a good thing? The more partners to choose from (assuming the percentage of quality partners remains about the same) the more attractive, interesting, single people to meet.
If you're getting overwhelmed because there's too much sex out there to be had then maybe the problem isn't dating. Maybe the problem is you.
[deleted] 10y ago
This assumes that people are rational. We definitely are not, especially when it comes to making choices.
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[deleted] 10y ago
I don't think the article is about just having sex. The article is about finding a husband/wife, which takes a lot more careful decision making than whether you would bang someone.
[deleted] 10y ago
Doesn't the same concept still apply though? I would always want more choices, especially for such a huge decision.
[deleted] 10y ago
I guess it depends on the person, whether you are indecisive or you know what you want and jump right to it. I know if I put myself in the situation of the author, I'd likely have the same anxiety issues...as I'm usually indecisive.