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Tombert_Williams 5y ago
I don't like or dislike cooking but I like to eat well, therefore I cook. Who else is going to do it in this day and age if I don't do it? I might pull out the stops if I happen to be cooking just for myself but I tend not to do that if I am cooking for the household--in that case, just good enough is good enough. I don't want to reward or encourage negative attitudes.
I have noticed at nearly every dinner party I go to nowadays that the man is in the kitchen doing all of the work, and the women are sitting around island in the kitchen drinking cocktails and oohing and ahhing almost in a sexual way about how impressed they are with the guy (wife: "he's a great cook" "he loves to cook" he does most of the cooking because he's way better than me." Girlfriends: "wow, I could really use him at my house" "Could you loan him to me?" "nothing's sexier than a man who knows how to cook") and the clueless guy is always beaming with pride, not realizing that he's being publicly cucked. If you pay attention you notice the women will have these smiles slightly curled and they will be making eye contact with each other knowingly as if to say "can you believe this dipshit falls for this?" Meanwhile, they sadly confess in faux disappointment their own sorely lacking domestic skills "-sigh- I can't even boil water."
I never cook for guests anymore unless my wife is playing at least an equal role in the kitchen. When she suggests that I make X, I say "okay and why don't you make Y. Those will go great together." If I get any resistance at all, I say "That's fine. We can order out."
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Galbert123 5y ago
People who think that certain tasks are beneath them should be ashamed. You do what needs to get done. Learn as much as you can. Be self reliant.
There was a female director in my old company... cant type to save her life. I remember it being brought up once, she said something like that was a secretary skill... right... as shes single fingering emails out to the finance team... taking an hour on a 5 minute email.
Nothing is beneath you. And do not disrespect people just because they are lower than you on the food chain. We're all just trying to climb.
WhaleSharkPark 5y ago
I just got married and cooking has been something I worry about constantly. Moving to college taught me how to cook the basics and my boyfriend taught me what a world of difference seasoning rice could make. But then we were engaged and I realized that as someone who plans to be a work from home mom, I would be cooking dinners for my spice loving and flavor obsessed man for the rest of my life. Even then I had only two extremely healthy and boring dinners I alternated. And I was determined to keep cooking like that, he would just have to adapt. Being married changed that. Our very first dinner was bland spagetti and meatballs and he was so sweet about my terrible efforts that I cried. I had been terrified he would hate it. All I want now when I cook is for him to love it. That has led to a massive learning curve. I am slowly teaching myself better and more creative cooking because it is something that makes him happy, and demanding he be happy with whatever I make is grossly unfair. He has also been good to me, praising what I make and gently suggesting dinners he would like.
Women: So even if we start with no cooking ability, its the effort and selflessness (as well as encouraging and patient husbands) that distinguish nasty women from loving wives.
Men: Look for a woman who, even in her shortcomings, tries out of love.
Speculum 5y ago
I would suggest French Cooking Academy on YouTube. It teaches the most basic techniques and recipes.
surfsusa 5y ago
I have an acquaintance part of a group of people we hang out with a few times a year.We host the group 2-3 times a year and we meet up for movies to see bands or parties. He is king of the BetaBux. He was and is a success in business. Not a bad looking guy in decent shape. He married this girl, She was nice looking I would say an 8 on a good day. She told him right from the beginning that she would never cook or have kids. They go out to eat most nights or eat the left overs from the previous nights outing or eat over at friend's homes including ours. They have been married for many years. She is a Feminist but not one that is always in your face. They only hosted us 1 time (at a restaurant) 10 years. My woman cooks but so do I. I cook most dishes better than my woman. But my woman has done more than her share of cooking and always made sure that I had a good meal when I got home from work , even if she had a rough day her self. I and a couple of other guys cook for our parties . No we don't Bar B Que. I am talking about Gumbo, Red Beans and rice, Lasagna and Baked or Broiled chicken. His wife is so amazed at all the things I can do. Most of our group events are special occasions and one time I showed up with a pretty cool shirt to mark the occasion. I made it it. When they asked where I got it, I told them I made it. His wife was incredulous that I made that. I bust her chops all the time and let her know that I live in a Man's world and she is lucky to be in it.
Andrzej11 5y ago
In this day and age, things like cooking, cleaning, laundry and hygiene are consider tyranny and oppression especially if a woman have to do it for a men. You want woman to clean and cook for a men especially if the man/husband bought the house the woman is living in ? How dare you ask her to do such a degrading task! Men needs to do it or get a cleaning service or a cook as she has no time to do such tasks. She needs to be taken out and fed the most tastiest foods. Well in real life these women who cannot cook or clean will live off of fast food and get fat and since they cannot clen they will live in their own filthy rooms/apartments where clothes and shoes are piling up everywhere and the kitchen and bathroom are filthy. This reminds me of a joke. A girl brings a guy over to her place and they are getting busy and in the heat of the moment girl says " Say something dirty and nasty to me" so the guys stars yelling " Oh the kitchen and the kitchen floor and the bathroom, oh the bathroom and the bathtub"
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
My parents grew up in socialist Germany. This led to a few quirks in the traditional genderroles in my area. Big family dinners were mostly prepared by the FATHER of the family. I never realized how odd that was, till I lived in the west for a while.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
We discussed this a few years back but I thought it was worth revisiting.
boy_named_su 5y ago
Feminism was started by Jewish lesbian Marxists. Seriously, look at the biographies of their leaders
As lesbians, they resented having to be married to men and do their bidding (you were looked down upon for not being married back in the day).
As Marxists, they wanted outcome equality
As Jews, they were smart and educated enough to get their message across
IRunYourRiver 5y ago
This may be true, but it serves no one to remain in this mindset. All throughout nature the battle of the sexes exists and serves to ensure that the best alleles are passed along. Feminism is simply a stage in the human battle of the sexes. It isn't anyone's "fault". It just is. Your responsibility is to learn how to respond to it. Good news is that you're in about the best subreddit for that. Nevertheless, it's hard work either way.
geo_gan 5y ago
What does “outcome equality” mean?
playful_pachyderm 5y ago
I'm an engineer; you work at fast food; we make the same (equal) amount of money (outcome).
I'm an entrepreneur who risks his livelihood; you're an employee who collects a salary; we have equal say in the operation of the new, now successful, company.
I work 9 hour days; you work 7 hours in the same job and take vacations every 3 weeks and a year off after having a baby; we have the same average income.
geo_gan 5y ago
What? I don’t really get your examples there or what you are saying
playful_pachyderm 5y ago
I'm not sure what you don't get, it's not very complicated. Normal people support a principle of "equality of treatment", in which the same rules apply to everyone. Marxists support a principle of "equality of outcome", by which people get the same result regardless of their situation, choices or actions.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Traditionally in America we have striven for equality of opportunity, meaning that everyone gets a chance and the most meritorious/hard working can rise. As socialists have gained power, they have convinced people that unequal outcomes are face value evidence that there must be hidden discrimination and we must correct it with regulation, because according to their ideology all groups are biologically and culturally equal. Hence they strive for outcome equality - they will never be happy until all groups are equally well off because they use circular reasoning that assumes differences in outcome = discrimination.
geo_gan 5y ago
Oh right. That’s crazy. So they want some asshole that never worked a day in his life to have the same quality of life as someone who worked 9-5 for 20 years? To be honest in my country with the socialism shit that has taken over, the amount of people who do not work and have all sorts of excuses for it (disability, children etc) who are living off the state and get monthly “rent allowance” which is more than my monthly mortgage and live in exactly the same house I do, is sickening to me. Literally half the country is working paying huge taxes (over 53% of every Euro earned over a measly €27k) and this money is used to support the other half who just take, take, take from the system.
zestytacoz 5y ago
Granted in real life it becomes
geo_gan 5y ago
The problem is in my country the useless fucks are very good at making sure they have a big need to get what they want (usually a house). I know this might be alien to USA readers as their country is still very capitalist and doesn’t put up with this shit, but in cucked, feminist controlled, socialist European country I live in this is how it works.
zestytacoz 5y ago
I understand that's how it works. It gives an incentive to be as useless as possible, since being useless is the best way to get more resources with as little effort as possible. I can only hope that there's enough pushback against that here and that the hype of the Democrats' tax and give away is overblown.
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Nushuktan-Tulyiagby 5y ago
Not to mention girls bedrooms. I've only been to one chicks house where there wasn't a huge stack of dirty laundry in the corner.
tempolaca 5y ago
I have a huge stack of dirty laundry. How the fuck do you avoid that? I'm thinking about buying a huge box so I put the laundry inside.
Jejmaze 5y ago
Get a box to put your laundry in
UshankaDalek 5y ago
There is a such thing as a laundry hamper.
Xanforth 5y ago
By washing the dirty laundry...
tempolaca 5y ago
You make it sound like it is fucking easy
FalconWrite 5y ago
If you have access to a washing machine and dryer, doing laundry has the same difficulty level as using a damn microwave
rogicar 5y ago
Ok but at some point, after not too long, that dirty laundry becomes a stack unless you just throw your dirty clothes everywhere.
Nushuktan-Tulyiagby 5y ago
Well typically you put your dirty clothes in a laundry basket and then you do laundry on a regular basis. Not to sound like a dick but this is pretty common sense.
rogicar 5y ago
Yes. Which was my point exactly. You stack it inside your hamper.
Nushuktan-Tulyiagby 5y ago
Oh I thought you were implying that the stack of dirty clothes on the floor is necessary. I got you.
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masszealots 5y ago
They complain about body standards, cooking, cleaning, going to work, wearing makeup, grooming. All thing MOST men do (besides makeup). Seriously most guys I know diet and go to the gym, while women struggle to not be fat.
OswaldEvola 5y ago
And honestly, whether a good thing or not young men are concealing their acne the same way women do now, by applying liberal amounts of concealer. Plus having been in the arts scene all my life, a hyper masculine dude in eyeliner is not particularly off putting anymore. Basically what I'm saying is men somehow pull off feminine skills and styles better than women do.
OswaldEvola 5y ago
And honestly, whether a good thing or not young men are concealing their acne the same way women do now, by applying liberal amounts of concealer. Plus having been in the arts scene all my life, a hyper masculine dude in eyeliner is not particularly off putting anymore. Basically what I'm saying is men somehow pull off feminine skills and styles better than women do.
OswaldEvola 5y ago
And honestly, whether a good thing or not young men are concealing their acne the same way women do now, by applying liberal amounts of concealer. Plus having been in the arts scene all my life, a hyper masculine dude in eyeliner is not particularly off putting anymore. Basically what I'm saying is men somehow pull off feminine skills and styles better than women do.
NextBad 5y ago
Women cooking or not cooking is the least of our worries and makes up seem misogynistic unnecessarily, this trad-con narrative red pill is now pushing is definitely a shift.
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Tombert_Williams 5y ago
It's not so much that they don't cook (at least for me) as it is the flagrant show that they make about not cooking while simultaneously expecting us to "man up" and do all of the very same shit that they refuse to do. It's a power play, pure and simple.
That's fine. You can't make someone else do something that they don't want to do, but that doesn't mean we have to play their game. The first step is calling it what it is (without sulking about it). The idea of choreplay is Shit Test 101.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Why is it misogynistic to desire a woman who knows how to cook?
Or you been drinking the kool-aid so long that expecting any adult behavior in women is misogynistic?
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tempolaca 5y ago
Women will never compete with men in absolutely anything. They are biologically predisposed to not get away from the norm. Women are by their own design, mediocre. It's good that they are that way. We men, are extreme. There are extreme good men, but also men that extremely sucks at anything. It's statistics.
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Hjalmbere 5y ago
OP is on to something. I always found it a big turn off when women announce their lack of cooking skills on dating sites. It’s like they’re saying ”I’m not capable of taking care of my man, but I’m happy to take your resources.” I think it’s a sign of the times.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
Strongly disagree. Sure, women should be willing to do plenty of cooking but why do you need them to love every second of it and relish doing it all the time?
Peglegbonesbailey 5y ago
To be fair, /u/Hjalmbere didn't say they had to "love every second", he said that he found it a turn off when women act as though a lack of skill is a virtue.
zestytacoz 5y ago
Exactly. It's similar to when people are proud of not being able to do math.
Bilskee1 5y ago
Its men's fault for letting them get away with it. Stop giving dick to girls that cant read 4 steps and make hamburger helper for fuck sake.
goldenhourlivin 5y ago
It’s not gonna get better unless we do this right here.
Casanova-Quinn 5y ago
Exactly. Women will be as lazy as men let them. Men need to start dreading/dumping women for being useless outside the bedroom. That’s the only way to correct this behavior.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Give them your dick, just not your commitment.
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RealisticKiwi 5y ago
I don't understand. I hate cooking and don't really know any men who loves it. My ex gfs usually cooked nice meals for me. My current does not really know it but I expect her to cook something always.
grasshopperbizzl 5y ago
I let Russian Lesbians couchsurf at my place for 2 days. I thought, "Cool, Russian Lesbians!" They were disgusting. They had a horrible smell and I had to practically throw out the sheets when they left. They also left a surprise in the toilet for me before moving out. I will never let lesbians I don't know stay at my place again ever.
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
This is one of those moments where you realize that real life is nothing like porn.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
As somebody who worked retail in highschool, the women's bathrooms were always far worse than the men's.
Women are fucking nasty when they're not trying to impress men.
AlphaGinger66 5y ago
I used to have a job cleaning a bar in the mornings. I'd sweep and mop the whole place and clean the bathrooms. When I started the job I thought the mens room would be worse to clean on average. Couldn't be further from the truth. The women's room always was filthy. Toilet paper everywhere was standard. I found thongs on the floor multiple times, broken glasses, used tampons not in the garbage (only once). 9/10 days the women's room was worse to clean.
FalconWrite 5y ago
I didn't fully stop pedestalizing women until a plate left my spot with the unflushed toilet's seat up. These bitches triflin
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
So what you suggest is... they do poop? Like, for real?
CensorThis111 5y ago
Or shotgun-blast blood and other human cells into nooks and cracks that will leave you wondering for weeks.
Some girls are absolutely disgusting when it comes to their periods. Although I don't know why periods are so special. Most humans I know wouldn't drip shit on the floor and neglect to clean it up, but the amount of bathroom-blood I've cleaned in my life has left me with true contempt.
FalconWrite 5y ago
And if you stare long into an abyss, you may see a massive fucking shit being taken in your house
Menchstick 5y ago
I poop as well but I can't remember ever forgetting to flush the toilet. I mean, the smell is kind of hard not to notice.
Sara_Solo 5y ago
They worship eating out every night and the ones that do learn to cook over-do it like that girl who sterilized herself so that she could help the environment and make fancy vegan dishes every night.
hidemyface1234 5y ago
Why not? If you can use someone for free food and don't have to fuck em, why buy the bull when his pasture is free?
Stop buying shit for women you're not fucking.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Or getting absurdly cheap delivery brought to their door by one of the unskilled immigrant masses that they allowed to overrun our countries who are unqualified for any other type of labor.
Avertus 5y ago
This is the result of one of feminism's tenets, that it's degrading for women to stick into the traditional housewife/homemaker mother role. Notice how stories of "female empowerment" figures mention stuff about family and friends supposedly shaming them from taking up further education or careers and telling them to just be content as a housewife--which is nothing but a jab at the evil patriarchy attempting to suppress their skill potentials.
A man can afford to be incapable of (or in the least terrible at) cooking, but not a woman esp. in an LTR role.
oooKenshiooo 5y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNITvUaehN0
U-94 5y ago
It's funny, when girls I've been seeing have offered to cook for, my first thought was always "Ah, shit she really likes me - gotta parachute outta this one somehow."
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
From Archwinger on this topic:
BlameitonBigDave 5y ago
The cooking is love message is powerful and true, learning to cook was a turning point in increasing my self esteem a few years ago, as taking the time to create something from scratch took on meaning, as I was doing it purely for myself it became an act of love towards myself, indicating that I could believe that I was worthy of loving and taking time for myself.
In my experience with multiple ex-partners, this ignorance of cooking is an issue, but what I found made a massive change in their behaviour (and improved the relationship) was injecting fun into the cooking experience and doing it together. Leading, divvying up responsibilities, teasing her, calling her a waitress and messing around can turn a boring daily chore into an intimate and sexy experience (so much sexual tension when you pull her close and both start feeding each other) - I've found that some ex-partners have gone from having no interest in cooking, diet or nutrition, to actively taking the time to cook me nutritious meals and improve their health - a win win situation for everyone involved. Another thing, they all say they have never had such a good time with anyone else, just by cooking together.
What I'm saying is we have the ability to lead by example to get the behaviour we want to see, in this case with cooking and some will follow, even if feminism or society tells them the usual toxic lies - and those that don't follow can carry on into a squidgy, diabetes-riddled old age.
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Buchloe 5y ago
My grandma was married to one man, cooked for their kids every day while he busted his ass plumbing. He drank and smoked, but she never left him and I've only ever heard her speak respectfully about him (he was a boss though). All her kids have a high sense of morality and self respect. Then she cooked for all her grandkids. Gave us all baths in the kitchen sink. She's 90 now. Has 4 kids, 7 grandkids, 9 great-grandkids so far. She has no complaints about her life. She loved her family, cared for them and fed them proper. She is a peaceful and satisfied person, and has not an ounce of shame or regret, and neither should any woman for doing what she was designed to do. That deserves respect, and any modern woman with an ounce of those qualities is like a beacon of light in this era.
Luckyluke23 5y ago
fuck me man, you got to respect that. keeps the house together i say
Dash_of_islam 5y ago
She invested in her family and relationships.
It is extremely unlikely her family will abandon her in old age since she is probably really appreciated for all she has done.
That's how stable families worked in the old days
LukesLikeIt 5y ago
Everyone is just really entitled these days. We get what we don’t earn and complain if we dont. We bitch and moan at other people to make happen what we desire.
riggedved 5y ago
This is almost a carbon copy of my family. My grandfather didn't drink or smoke though. He's 92 and he still works 12 hours a day. I count everyday a blessing because I get to witness the sheer greatness in character that my grandparents are. They're "real." No fairness.
Buchloe 5y ago
For real. Those great depression era people are no joke, some of the finest people ever. Dude, my grandma's brothers, I got to be around all of them. Most were married until the day they died. There's still one left. He had a stroke though, they couldn't keep him off his damn tractor lol.
My dad wasn't around much except weekends (thanks mom, feminism), and both my grandpas died before I was born, but I loved being around those old dudes and feel so lucky and proud to have known people like that.
Disgruntledfamilyguy 5y ago
> This is almost a carbon copy of my family.
You misspelled "most american families 50 years ago."
redpillcad 5y ago
No career and cats and boxed wine and trail of men who pumped and dumped for her!
Buchloe 5y ago
Nope. But honestly, the jokes on them. At the end of that path, there's no satisfaction, nothing to show for a life well lived. But even at 90 the hamster will probably lie and tell them there was.
NohoTwoPointOh 5y ago
Stickyworthy post.
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Luckyluke23 5y ago
jesus. we have fallen a long way down the shit hole, haven't we?
MaxWyght 5y ago
So, before I actually comment on this bit, I have to preface this:
I've worked in kitchens from the time I was 19 until I was 24.
Started as a lowly sandwich maker, and moved up until I got a job as a line chef in one of Israel's top restaurants.
I learned to make just about anything, from a lowly chopped salad, all the way to those fancy cakes that look like they were made of marble.
Cooking is an art.
The best chefs are those that love their job.
Because they treat each single meal as a work of art.
As for the love thing:
When I was younger, I used to read a bunch of manga, and in one of them, the protagonist said something along the lines of:
Cooking is a way to bare your soul.
No matter how close you stick to a recipe, if your soul isn't there, the food will suck.
And if you cook for someone, it is a way of showing them your soul.
The last time I had a girl cook for me, the food was supposedly delicious, in the sense that it smelled and looked lovely, but the taste was off.
Can't really explain it unfortunately, but I'm sure you all know that flavor, where something turned bad, but is still technically edible and won't make you shit out your colon?
A week later it turned out I was cucking some poor fuck.
Managicall 5y ago
cucking the food is called remicrowaving over and over and over.
party_dragon 5y ago
you should post a thread about your experiences, tips & tricks of professional chefs, and maybe even some interesting/quick/complex recipes!
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
I feel so confused by the vibe of this sub. I disagree with the very argument of this whole thread but even this particular post makes no sense to me. I worked in restaurants for MANY years and even your experience strikes me as silly. Many of the chefs I encountered over the long years I've worked in restaurants have been surly fucks who are just paying the rent.
I'm not talking about dive bars, either.
Why does this argument against feminism need to be so self righteous and emotional? It's not enough to feel like women need to be more domestic but we need them to want to be uber passionate about it as well?
Third wave feminism is annoying and retarded, yes. But why the tendency view women so maternally, where they not only cook and clean for you but just can't fucking wait to get home to do it? It seems like mommy-issue stuff. Can't we at least cite duty as a reason?
This doesn't make much sense to me.
EDIT - I just gotta say that this:
...isn't really a whole hell of a lot of experience. Try doing it as your career for 25 years and tell me how much passion you can muster for it every single 12 hour day you work in your 70 hour workweek.
MikeTyson91 5y ago
That's the problem: feminism has no waves. Ever heard of a boiling frog?
Imperator_Red 5y ago
It was always a bad idea. There are numerous economic studies that show that as soon as women gained the right to vote, government spending doubled. They can isolate the effect because many states gave women the vote before the 19th amendment passed and the result is always the same.
PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics 5y ago
Can you tell me exactly what this means? I don't know if I understand all the words here. Thank you.
tempolaca 5y ago
The girl he was fucking secretly had a boyfriend.
PM_Me_OK 5y ago
Its not accurate though. Im sure there are women out there like this, but most arent that fickle and selfish/self centered. Its a big exaggeration.
red_philosopher 5y ago
It smacks a little bit of anger phase AWALT, but it's certainly true to an extent.
hidemyface1234 5y ago
That's not love. That's lust. (Hypergamy).
Otherwise I agree.
jazerac 5y ago
I don't know if its just my strong male frame, but I never experience this "me me me" with women, because they know and fear what I am capable of. Don't put pussy on a pedestal, and its amazing what they will do for your "love."
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
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I concur and support this message.
dingleburry_joe 5y ago
In my experience, I never ltr someone who doesn't know how to cook for this reason. I made this mistake once but not again. Most guys I know like to cook, but many girls I know today can't cook for shit. Many guys who have standards want women who cook. So women who do are of higher value than those don't. Just another filter for me to vet the ladies.
Ihatemoi 5y ago
My thoughts exactly. At the beginning when I was a blue pilled beta bucks, I did not have standards for a woman, I used to say "If she does not know how to cook, that is okay, what matter are the feelings and I can cook <3". Not anymore, I want my lady to be able to cook, not only that but she has to cook for me. I also want boobs, boobs are important.
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UEMcGill 5y ago
Or at least willing to learn. An easy vetting process is to just schedule a meal date and make them your helper. You can test her for submission, eagerness and ability to follow orders.
dr_warlock 5y ago
It's best to start with a woman from a culture that breeds that mindset. Where her philosophy is to serve the man she likes. It can't be substituted. The feeling in the air is different. It's great.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
Yes! That is more than sufficient.
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DickMystery 5y ago
Lol, whenever I try that I get irritated because they are either in the way or don't do stuff the way I want them to be done (when I'm cooking) so I'll either make them sit down on my couch (or somewhere I won't walk into them) and occasionally ask whenever I need an extra pair of hands. My place, my way, unless they have another just as or more efficient way. Guess working in a restaurant kitchen from 16-18 has done that to me.
A plate once invited me to bake and eat some pancakes (was a joke running between us). Eventually I just took over and taught her some more efficient things, because she'd get distracted a lot.
Buchloe 5y ago
For real, if she can't or doesn't enjoy cooking, or won't cook together with me, that's a huge red flag that she has little to contribute in the long term. One of the best things to do as a date is cook with a chick. And if she's game, she's often worth getting to know, and cooking together is a good way to get to know someone.
stevecapw 5y ago
+1. This has become a go-to move for vetting women.
FalconWrite 5y ago
True fucking shit. At this point I view cooking as a goddamn sacred ancient martial art. Let the kitchen be the dojo, cook up some full flavored front kicks to the fucking pussy
CainPrice 5y ago
Knowing how to turn groceries into dinner is part of being a grown up. Women who can't cook are still children.
JohnIan101 5y ago
This and they will hemorrhage money for not doing basic things themselves; cooking and cleaning clothes come to mind.
Mgtow_troaway 5y ago
Isn't cooking supposed to be one of those skills you learn to keep yourself alive?
UshankaDalek 5y ago
Not when you can just defrost chicken nuggests or swipe on your phone until somebody buys you a meal.
alittletoosmooth 5y ago
I doubt they can handle the chicken nuggets. Let's be realistic.
UshankaDalek 5y ago
The chicken nuggets are anecdotal.
AlexDr0ps 5y ago
Cooking should be a fundamental skill for everybody. If you can't cook you're probably showing your inadequacy in other ways.
I don't exclusively make my woman cook, either. We take turns or cook together. Its pretty much the only way to live healthy and not break the bank
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
This is a much more measured stance on the matter than OP's. Cool. You guys both cook for each other. That's fucking awesome. It'd also be awesome if she was a great cook and handled it most of the time. But is it necessary to desire a woman that relishes the idea of cooking every single meal, all the time?
OceanPoultry 5y ago
Plenty of men and women hate cooking. Some ppl are fucking lazy. Like me.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
Being lazy aint a good thing but not loving cooking isn't a character flaw in my opinion.
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
It goes back to what Rollo calls "value added". Women used to understand that they had to do housework if they didn't have a job and wanted to be a homemaker. Now they don't even want to do that, because their vagina entitles them to a lifetime of leisure. When they are young and hot they can get away with it; when they hit the wall their lack of domestic skills and other value added things catches up with them.
stevecapw 5y ago
Ugh, I've had the displeasure of watching two friends' marriages that are just like this. "Stay at home moms" that don't do any Mom tasks.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
Your two friends were fucking up bigtime, then. How horrific their approach to relationships must have been that these women couldn't even stand making a few meals for them?
Cptn_Jib 5y ago
My girlfriend is a feminist and still cooks for me
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Cptn_Jib 5y ago
If a girl isn't a feminist she's likely not intelligent. You scared of intelligent women?
SilkTouchm 5y ago
Uh more like the contrary my man. Intelligent women know feminism is bullshit. They know they aren't being "oppressed". Dumb ones are more likely to think they are.
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OgreAllOver 5y ago
Cooking is awesome. Im not tge best, but I like to experiment
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jimmyb207 5y ago
The feminist mindset alone makes them Butt Ugly and repulsive. They have become deranged in the way they attack men simply for being a man the way god intended man to be...physically and mentally strong, forward thinking and organized and presenting natural behaviors of being male. It's getting to the point where they despise anything that has a penis.
exit_sandman 5y ago
This reminds me of my early 20s, when a girl who was crushing hard on me invited me over for dinner.
This really caught me on the wrong foot because for my entire life the message that women owe men nothing and shouldn't be expected to do anything had been drilled into my skull so deeply (interestingly, that worked only one way - when men did something for women, this was awesome, great, totally okay and showed that he wasn't some vile patriarch) that I ultimately started to expect the opposite - i.e. women doing anything but "serving" men.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Rules are made for Billy and broken for Chad. I guess cooking is no different than sex.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
This argument seems disingenuous in nature. Every single man your age or younger enjoys cooking? That sounds like absolute horseshit. For me, it's the exact opposite. I'm probably a bit older than you but I can't really think of any men I know who love cooking. I mean, there are probably a few I don't realize, but I believe your argument is completely fabricated. And that's such a weird thing to do because feminism IS stupid. At least the current incarnation of it.
I also can't think of any women I know who consider cooking an indignity.
But why do you feel compelled to approach the argument disingenuously? Can't you just be honest about your criticism?
jimmyb207 5y ago
I like to cook. Put me in front of a grill, I love to cook.
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Cooking is fun and you get to enjoy the end result.
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RedPill115 5y ago
Feminism: Oppression: being in the hitchen making a sandwhich for your husband!
Feminism: Female empowerment: working for a corporation in their kitchen making sandwhiches for hundreds of people.
Now...who do you think funds feminism?
hellobutterboy 5y ago
But are all feminists like this Id say like 90 percent but still isn’t there a too big of a generalization ? Just saying I myself don’t support feminism pls no triggers
hellobutterboy 5y ago
K no normal political talks that’s fine
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
Apparently women all need to be our mothers, too.