Women are corrupt creatures who are attracted to what they can’t have. I’ve been in a one year relationship with an Asian girl who originally worshipped me until I moved to her country to live with her.
By moving to her country and settling down there, I gave her the power. She felt secure. I was no longer mysterious or attractive to her and she no longer needed validation from me. Thus she started disrespecting me.
After a long battle of trying to get her to respect me, I finally swallowed the red pill and realised it was never going to happen in this situation. I recently decided I’ve had enough of her shit so I’m going to go back home.
Well shit son. Since I told her, everything’s changed. She cuddles me tight at night. She wants my attention all the time. She lets me have sex with her whenever I want. She sucks my dick in the morning. She doesn’t complain much. She makes time for me. She worries I’m going to find another girl and has become clingy/insecure.
It’s incredible how a woman’s behaviour can change over night just by being indifferent; Just by moving your pawn on the chessboard and changing the game.
Of course this is annoying as fuck for a rational, logical man because it’s a double edged sword. We know it shouldn’t have to be this way: why should we have to go backwards in order to go forwards — in order to keep a woman’s interest? It’s fucked up, but women are fucked up, so it’s the only way.
Women do not love you. They will not love you for what you do for them. Don’t believe anything they say. They only know attraction and their attraction is dependent on mystery.
I’m not sure if me and my LTR will break up now, perhaps we will as we won’t be able to spend time with each other anymore, but at least I have my power back and that’s a much better feeling than constantly stepping on eggshells/begging for respect just for a sex fix now and then.
Women are attracted to mystery, withdrawal and indifference. I tried denying this fact and I got stung, but now I’ve taken back my power. Don’t make the same mistake. Do not move for a woman no matter tempting it is and no matter what they say to you — In the long run they will completely neglect you.
AliBarakat 5y ago
Which Asian country do you live in now?
I think you should've pretended to want to move to that country for a job or just for fun and to get away from things back home. That way, it wouldn't seem like you were moving there just for her.
Zech4riah 5y ago
So most likely you will pussy out, stay with her and go through the same process again later.
Maybe you will have the balls to leave her 2nd time. :|
FereallyRed 5y ago
My tiger analogy I use a lot in askTRP...
Women are really, really interested in tigers. They're strong, pretty, nice to pet, protectors, have an "I'm the king of all I see" vibe, dangerous, and great status symbols.
To keep a tiger, though, it's convenient to train them to walk on a leash, not eat the occasional lamb, piss in the designated area, sleep in a cage, etc.
Problem is, tigers don't like being caged or on a leash. This is against their nature. Some do get domesticated, though, even learn tricks. It's helpful to chop off their balls to accomplish this domestication.
Problem is doing this makes them lose the edge that made them attractive in the first place.
They become compliant little kitties.
Women then realize all the excitement around owning a tiger has evaporated, because now they're walking down the street with wrinkled tiger balls in their purse, holding the leash of an overgrown neutered housecat.
Guess what? They begin the search for another tiger. Don't be a pussy. Stay tiger.
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Casanova-Quinn 5y ago
Solid analogy. The short version is “Do not change the things that attracted her to you in the first place”.
THEdirtyDotterFUCKr 5y ago
this is a long winded version of what my father taught me as a teen
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"Women are born with a pussy; they do not want another one"
shaggyctes88 5y ago
Now this is a line to engrave on stone
xrKles 5y ago
I must remember this line for my kids haha
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Heinous_White_Man 5y ago
I'm stealing this. Your father sounds like a great role model.
THEdirtyDotterFUCKr 5y ago
He was, I come from a 1st and second gen Latin family, so I got the best of both worlds
markinsinz7 5y ago
The crux then is - how to maintain that edge in a ltr
alphabachelor 5y ago
Always keep investing in yourself (work out, eat well, learn new skills, dress well), always be willing to walk away and never get locked in (when you get married, get a solid prenup).
illusiveab 5y ago
This is basic gold. Keep investing in yourself at all times and remain priority #1.
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Rkingpin 5y ago
DONT. LIVE. WITH. LTR. YOURE. NOT. ABOUT. TO. MARRY.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Focus on getting your SMV higher. I immediately knew where this was going when you said “dating an asian girl”. Even worse that you moved to her country. Most low SMV men resort to dating asian girls because they think they’re easier as opposed to their own race or other races. Another scarcity mentality post. You have much to learn.
Nikkozezim 5y ago
Sorry you had to learn in the hard way. It’s a delicate balance. Keeping enough power to be commander in chief, but not a dictator. Her emotional cues will tell you all you need to know, and if you want to keep the relationship you can readjust quickly even if she sees a hint of weakness in you. The key is just paying attention to her.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
She's demonstrated her basic nature, to which she will revert the second she feels secure again. A nice object lesson into the mechanics of Dread Game.
Brother, you need to secure yourself a one way plane ticket and say nothing about it to anyone. Act normal right up to the day, then when it's time to go to the airport, casually "go to the store for cigarettes" even though you don't smoke.
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---yes 5y ago
Shit, dude. The moment you decided to move to her country, you told her she had more power in the relationship. It sucks that you had to go through this to learn, but you learned. The more you pay for the class, the better you learn.
bondbandito 5y ago
Hmm. On the other hand, what if you as the man wanted to move there because you prefer the lifestyle there? I think there is more context left out by OP.
If anything, being the foreign exotic guy in her country would be better than being an average Joe when she is in yours. I think it is more that OP accommodated to her preference of residence that showed him to be tamed.
---yes 5y ago
I find it really difficult to frame wanting to move to the girl's country as your own will without automatically giving her the power.
gmos905 5y ago
This is highly relevant to me right now and I made this mistake. Except that I'm not leaving the country I'm in for another couple of months. I forgot about the mystery and not telling everything as well to keep her guessing.
womans_algorithm 5y ago
Honetly man, you will feel the same for every LTR you will come across, unless you change yourself. You may have been with bad apple, but it showed you that you can't manage a relationship. Option to walk away is powerful, but it's just one option, there are others you can learn. For example being a leader, a captain. You think a leader will say
I dont think so. A leader doesn't try getting respect, he is doing his stuff, which has a consequence of getting respect from people, including women and girlfriends. I think you fell into a trap of trying to reason with a woman. Explaining her how it should be. That's not the way to be in a healthy LTR.
In the end, she may be a bad apple, but ask yourself. Even if she really was, why were you with here in the first place? Why did you move for her?
hype1985 5y ago
Dude u could’ve just got Asian hookers + they all look the same ????????????
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vfb14 5y ago
Good reminder to always stay alert, one false step and the power balance can be leveled against you. Applies to all interpersonal relationships.
0kool74 5y ago
And you just got a very potent introduction to Hysterical Bonding. If you're smart you'll break off the relationship and go back home. Once the fear factor has passed and she realizes you're staying, she'll revert back to her old behavior.
cilantromakesmepuke 5y ago
From what I heard, South-Eastern Asian women can become dangerously jealous on their Caucasian boyfriends. A friend of mine got fed up with his Filipino girlfriend's tantrums and decided to go for another girl. He was severely beaten by his girlfriend's brothers and cousins and told that he will end up dead in the river if he tries to leave her again.
Take care friend, things can go from zero to piranha fish tank very quickly if you play with the girl's heart.
The-Peter-Principle 5y ago
That’s because he’s THEIR walking ATM! Heard this story so many times from older guys in Thailand and Philippines.
centaursg 5y ago
I think these days men are more wired to be blue pilled due to society, movies,ads, people around you and women are more wired to play the nature's game plus some feminist stuff..
VickVaseline 5y ago
What country are we talking about, by the way?
DeadliftRx 5y ago
Bro, leave. You know her backup plan is most likely to get herself pregnant now that her wallet has threatened to leave. Even if you won't cum in her, she will just find someone else and then pin the bastard child on you. Run. Don't tell her your plans.
Just.
Fucking.
Run.
Dash_of_islam 5y ago
Who cares if the bitch tried to get pregnant.
He needs to leave, if she makes her pregnant bed now she has to lie in it
DeadliftRx 5y ago
I don't know how this country's or international laws work on this subject. Perhaps you can enlighten us?
Dash_of_islam 5y ago
Not sure.
But if it's Asian, they have shit legal systems that don't work too well.
He could probably lie to her saying he will mentor the kid when the kid gets older, ONLY IF the mom never tries to contact this man until the kid grows up.
That'd be an easy way to get rid of the woman.
Dick move, but she started it if she tries to baby trap his ass fight fire with fire
RPSilverfox 5y ago
Sometimes you have to learn this stuff the hard way, and even though you can read it on TRP all day long seeing this stuff play out in front of you will make you a better man the next time something like this happens. Now that you’re leaving it’s a good opportunity to put her in your rear view and move forward with this new mindset.
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cuztrp 5y ago
Man... I'm really sorry it turned out this way.
But I must point out that you took the wrong move when you moved into her country WITH HER. Bro, you shouldn't have done that. You should have just moved into her country on your own, in your own apartment, dorm, whatever.
Everyone in TRP community and Rollo Tomassi pointed out in several podcasts that moving in with your woman will only start a shitshow of drama that you don't need in your life. It is true what you said that she became secure about the relationship and she's not attracted to you anymore. That's exactly what happened.
By moving intro her country your own, you skyrocket your dread game manifolds. I would assume you're white? And you know how the stereotype goes, right? Asians love white dicks.
So if you moved in alone, she'd feel very insecure about the relationship and you can get your own thing going on and carry on the game from there. Heck, you might even bump into a better option and dump her worthless ass for good.
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SteroidsFreak 5y ago
Bro race has nothing to do with this. I'm a Hispanic dating an Asian women. The fuck? Asian women function the same way any white, black, Hispanic etc women would
DoxMeISupportTrump 5y ago
Having "sexpatted" in Asia, the stereotype is kinda true though. I've had Asian women literally ask me to leave them a baby. It's weird and kind of creepy. As in, I've had women I've dated tell me if I ever decide to leave them at least leave them with a baby. Also, tinder, day game, whatever was ridiculously easy. There's a reason incel Asian subreddits exist.
Also, Colombia was even better than Asia tbh. Tons of big Latina ass and they loved it just as much as the Asian countries. More plastic though.
piggiebiggie 5y ago
Women do feel love, I think you are being dramatic. Just like redpill has made you realize what games nature and culture have you playing, you can talk to her yourself about how you think the game works - and how she is being played by the game and by you. You might be surprised how people react when they open their eyes to a game they are playing in autopilot mode(I am 100% appropriating fighting-game vocab here), she'll go meta just like you and the relationship will be better for it.
In mindfulness meditation we talk about how we must accept that our minds will sometimes start thinking, even when we explicitly do not want to think. That's how minds work, don't be angry, just accept it. But you CAN learn to not think, to calm the mind and turn things off so you can see everything more clearly. All the same, being human we will always end up in thought, and it is our job to realise when we do so.
Being a shitty man and being a shitty woman sometimes is exactly like that, playing the old evolutionary game and being a cunt is something people fall back to at times of weakness or of having too much power. It's the same as mindfulness in my view. You will pop in and out of it, and all you have to do is calmly notice that you are doing what you are doing - and then stop doing it. I 100% believe that the best goal for redpillers would be to realise that yes, there is a game that men and women play with each other. But concious awareness of this will let us bend the game to our favour. Ultimately, and reccuringly, we won't be able to escape falling into autopilot mode and neither will women. But being in partnership with someone who is aware of the games and patterns you play the relationship through means that you have someone to help you snap out of it and see everything from a more meta level.
Man I honestly don't know if this will make sense to anyone. Anyways, good for you. Tell your partner about what you think and have noticed, about absolutely everything (in a calm way) and see how it goes :)
centaursg 5y ago
This is something totally different from other replies.. I m curious to know what you think about the notion that when you tell your partner that you understand the game , they lose all the power and may behave erratic..sharing game with partner thinking honestly they will give it a shot is pretty far fetched..
piggiebiggie 5y ago
Talk to your partner about the patterns that you notice both of you engaging in, contrast them with the goals that you individually and together have as a couple and see if those patterns are conducive to what you want to do as a couple. The behaviour that emerges out of that won't be erratic, In my experience. It would be erratic from the psychopathic redpill point of view in that maybe you can't play your girlfriend like a puppet, but if that is what you want to do with a woman then maybe you should stick to one-night-stands. Which is fine ofc.
I don't know what else to say, other than that to see the relationship as a game of power is not a good idea, and that there is more to respect in an individual that lets go of his monopoly of power than in someone who hoards it imo
I might be misunderstanding your question though, so if i have could you please clarify it?
0io- 5y ago
If you think moving to be closer to a girl is bad, try getting married sometime...
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"Oh? I own him now? Great!"
El_Shakiel 5y ago
"half his assets you say ?! To shreds that wedding !"
Crowstarz 5y ago
Drop that bish. Start spinning plates. LTR is an epitome of hypocrisy. She'll branch swing as soon as she finds a guy whose calibre's stronger than your's.
Chadster113 5y ago
Please tell me you didn’t start off this relationship as long distance. If so you should break up and move back home before you dig yourself into a deeper fucking hole. You gave this woman power the moment you moved to another country for her and you may think you have the power now after you’ve threatened to move back but you don’t. you’ll slide back into your old ways with this woman if you do decide to stay.
ahab_dies 5y ago
Stay in great shape.
Keep making money.
Learn to say no and never break your frame when she gets angry at you.
Three rules to live by and they will always look up to you.
adonis_syche 5y ago
Do you think Elon Musk knows about TRP?
Alirei 5y ago
Elon Musk's wife cucked the hell out of him, so probably not.
SteroidsFreak 5y ago
You're probably referring to the CEO of amazon
cuztrp 5y ago
He divorced her, she didn't. She was being whiny all the time about how he's not giving her enough attention so he straight up told her that "If you were my employee, I'd fire you". And he eventually did and then married another girl who turned her into a blond just cuz he has a thing for blondies.
He's still going to Mars whether women tagged along in his life or not.
Alirei 5y ago
I have no doubts in my mind that Elon Musk will pioneer us to Mars, and that is not the subject of the conversation.
Not a single soul here would deny that the man has a brilliant scientific mind, but it has nothing to do with him being blue pilled. You can be a visionary and still be beta.
cuztrp 5y ago
He may be BluePilled, sure, but he's redpilled in the sense that he has a mission to which he devoted his life and time and women are in the last ranks, if they existed at all, in his list of priorities.
I just rebutting the fact that she ducked him. She didn't. He divorced her cuz she was a fucking distraction.
Alirei 5y ago
Brother, he married and divorced the same woman twice. Mission may exist, but it's a convenient excuse.
Echovoid_52 5y ago
Indeed they are. that's kinda why I've given up on LTR and just pursue sexual encounters with random girls. Every time I try to form a romance with one the more I care, the more she's looses interest. I've developed sex addiction because of this. I no longer chase romance, but I find myself chasing the best orgasim and sexual release I can find.
SICFJC 5y ago
How the fuck do you not know the difference between lose and loose?
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Andgelyo 5y ago
We are twins brother. Deep down I want something real. But it seems the more I open up, the more women lose attraction to me. I’ve always been good with flings and not good at keeping relationships. I’m broken.
Echovoid_52 5y ago
I used to feel like a loser for this, but having met a lot of people within the last two years, being a loner (I'm your typical dive bar, strip club, hotel scene, occasional elite party noir protagonist detective type dude) I realize there are a lot of people who failed at LTR's their whole life. I know some hot hot hot and super kind women who could simply never hold down a man. At a certain point I think we all become content in our solitude and learn to embrace making it on our own.
As a kid I was always taught I needed to be part of a pack. (Sports team, Frat guy, Family guy, Church member) But once I got into my mid-20's I realized when it came to sex and occasional romance I worked best as a loner. I know some people on TRP don't think it's practical, but I think being the lone wolf is better then being a part of a herd.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
I'm kind of a strange character, and I've found that when I'm lone wolfing it, I can usually do much better. OTOH, I can't really complain about when I'm with the herd.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Used to a very popular guy in school, but now that I’m in late 20s most of my friends are very busy, with their girls, or starting families, and I’ve embraced the lone wolf character now (not by choice though)
_Anarchon_ 5y ago
It's funny...abandonment is the most powerful trigger for Borderline Personality Disorder. Couple that with the fact that 75% of the people that have BPD are female...
Echovoid_52 5y ago
Are you saying that I have BPD? I'm not even ashamed to admit it... I have (more like had) serious serious abandonment anxiety issues before I found out about P4P. Even if I was on a date with a chick I was always in a nervous state that she would ghost me. I never took ghosting well. Almost put me off dating entirely. Luckily I found out about escorts and now all that anxiety is looooonngg gone. Sex is just $200 and a phone call away now. Abundance truly is the most freeing mindset and if any girl gives me any type of negative signals it's no problem....another 10 is just a phone call away. I do get lonely from time to time without the romance, but last serious GF I had who got all mushy-gushy romantic with me also ghosted me and I'm tired of getting all excited only to be let down time and time again. Rather just stay single and manage my sex addiction.
_Anarchon_ 5y ago
No, I'm saying that's the way women are wired...basically agreeing with the OP.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Hold the phone Batman. Escorts? Are you in the US? Can anyone just call up an attractive escort to get a nut for $200? This may be a new technique to get the occasional built up nut.
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
Alot of tip-toeing and sidestepping to get one. Make a mistake and an "escort" might lead to a sting operation. It's better to go to the Netherlands or someplace legal than risk your freedom over ass.
Echovoid_52 5y ago
Yeah. I don't care. It's just a misdemeanor. The whole country is cucked when it comes to prostitution laws. America can kiss my ass. I'm not gonna be a sexless wage slave in the same country that has a 94 Billion porn industry. If I get caught in a sting so be it.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
One thing that I'm thinking of, though, is the Sex Offenders List. Won't a prostitution bust get you onto one of those?
Echovoid_52 5y ago
Maybe. TBH i don't really care. In the era of #metoo everyone is susceptible to some sort of slanderous allegation hit. You can get yourself in big trouble too if you fuck some chick at university and a day later she regrets it and cries rape. There are sooooo many people in positions of Power (Trump who was actually caught on tape boasting about it) who've got his with such allegations and yet they chug along just fine.
If worst came to worst, if I got in trouble, and it prevented me from advancing in my career, I would just leave America and relocated to South East Asia.
Dontneedflashbro 5y ago
For future reference.
Merica911 5y ago
This x100...
Let's say you're from a small town and she's from a bigger city. Right off the rip she looking down at you because of this, but she'll still fuck you because you have alpha traits. But as soon as she sees you're willing to give up your stomping ground just to live closer to her, shows she can steer your direction (turn off). Plus you'll be out of your element in a different city. Like a child being alone in the first time in a shopping mall. You'll look completely vulnerable (again, turn off)
Never move in with her. Fucking period. I can't stress how fucking dangerous this is. I could write a book on all the shit. But long story short, she can move in with you, NEVER move in with her.
This one is a nuance point. If she pays full for a dinner date on the first date, pretty sure that will be the last date. Even down the line, with her paying half the bill, so looks at it paying the whole thing. This point I wouldn't take to serious. I've been in LTR before, after a long work day going to visit her at her place for dinner, and I really don't give a shit what we eat, and if her lazy ass doesn't want to cook, then she can pay for take out. I've seen guys make their girl pay for everything and it's a turn off. I've seen guys pay for everything, it's not really a turn off because she'll love that lifestyle. She won't thing you're a BB for paying full on a $50 meal. Not that serious.
And last, focus on your success, don't focus on her success and not yours. You must have goals that she can root for also. Nothing wrong for her having goals and rooting for her, but it's crucial that she has something to root for on you
SalporinRP 5y ago
Depends what your stance on marriage is. If you are actually trying to get married then you honestly need to spend some period of time living with your LTR. To marry someone without even knowing if you are compatible to live together is insane.
Hyper_Sonik 5y ago
I don't think you get it, young grasshopper..
Under no circumstances shouldyou get married on 2019....
It baffles me how guys who read this sub still promote the "good relationship" as a green light for marriage.
lubokkanev 5y ago
Don't split the bills? Do I make her pay all of it?
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I'd say he means each pay his own stuff, there no sharing.
yammybobber 5y ago
He means utilities and living expenses etc. When it comes to food, drinks and dates, ALWAYS split the bill.
Dontneedflashbro 5y ago
Thank you Yammy! I should have clarified this from the start.
Sake99 5y ago
I can't get this logic, hlep me understand.
pm_me_chuck_hagel 5y ago
The logic is: Don't pay for her shit. (More than you would if she was a male acquaintance that might disappear tomorrow without paying you back)
By paying for her, you show her that she is important and valuable to you. On the blue-pill surface, this is nice and good, but the more you pay the more you will be seen as "provider" instead of "lover", which has... consequences. Read the sidebar if there is any confusion.
Mukato 5y ago
You can counter this by splitting the bills so that she is paying half of the amount. She spends just as much as you and so you're not her provider.
lubokkanev 5y ago
Oh. I see, thanks.
Why do I pay the living expenses though?
carbonhexoxide 5y ago
To stay in control and not be dependent
xrKles 5y ago
Whoaaa Feminism is like the anti-red pill. Everyone in the feminism subreddit be like "pay for your own living expenses so you aren't dependent on the guy."
carbonhexoxide 5y ago
They’re both sexual strategies with the goal of increasing the amount of sexual prospects for their designated parties. There’s an article about it, I think it’s called something along the lines of “Feminism is one giant shit test, and we’re all failing it.”
xrKles 5y ago
yea. I remember reading that a while back. I saved and downloaded that post since it was very interesting and well writen.
DeadliftRx 5y ago
I'm sure youre being a facetious internet troll but if you followed the previous steps you won't have to worry about this one. Even if she got you your own place and offered to pay your bills and upkeep - she can take it away at any time.
OfficerWade 5y ago
Exactly. You might as well move back in with mom or dad. Not that you’re mom and dad aren’t nice people I’m just saying if you want power or independence, why would you give it away to a women? Especially when it’s not even your mother
lubokkanev 5y ago
I'm really not.
It's just that I've read around here that it's bad to pay for her - it's putting her above you. That's why I asked.
DeadliftRx 5y ago
Yeah you're 100% correct but I think the OP's situation merits a slightly different approach. He's in another country with a bitch who moodswings for her own benefit. She is using him and the only reason she and her family havent kicked him out on his ass is they plan to continue using him.
redbearsociety 5y ago
They are not attracted to withdrawal and indifference. They are literally the two qualities that will lead you to rejecting women yourself and having them reject you back. Women are attracted to men who are on their own path and are completely engaged with women so long as it does not stray them too far from their path. They respect a man who respects himself. That is a very different story to what you concluded.
IronManAlan 5y ago
I agree with your point rather than OP, focus on your mission. Indifference doesn't work in the long run.
HatefulTwerp 5y ago
When you finish a crossword, you throw it away. If a woman has you completely figured out, why should she stay interested in you?
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0io- 5y ago
Book of Pook is really good on this particular topic. Girls love the wild, untamed beast. The moment they think you're willing to live in their cage they lose interest in you completely.
Sake99 5y ago
There is always a treasure in the comment section
OfficerWade 5y ago
Hey that’s pretty good. You basically summed up Iron John in two sentences!
kalashnick 5y ago
This is awesome, man. Good for you.
CockPrevails 5y ago
Stay strong. You have made the right choice.
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oxpea54 5y ago
I was BP’d and deluded by false hope.
seedster5 5y ago
Relationship with Asian girl. Fail. Never ever date Asians who aren't Americanized.
The-Peter-Principle 5y ago
You got it the wrong way round mate.
seedster5 5y ago
There was an old post here where it goes into detail why Asians don't want a masculine man because they won't be able to control them. Rich beta is the goal. The post was years ago