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- Hide Preview | 92 Comments | submitted 2 months ago by Proto_Sigma [Post Locked]

After years of browsing TRP, lifting, putting myself out there socially and expanding my horizons, I decided to embark on the last great challenge advocated by various Redpillers. Nofap. For a year. I call this suicide mission No Nut 2019, which, as our friend and mentor u/gaylubeoil would point out, is a mere prelude to Tentacle Porn 2020.

The last time I got myself off was 12/31/2018 at 11:58 p.m. Since then I have seen no tangible effects other than an unsatisfied desire for sexual gratification. The longer this goes the more I wonder what I'm attempting to accomplish. I'm 36 days in and thus far pride and stubbornness are all that keeps me going through the realization that I'm only 1/10th of the way through my arbitrarily set challenge. I've actually seriously considered requesting a semen analysis at my next physical so I have a medical excuse to jack off.

I don't find the majority of women around me sufficiently attractive to pursue in any manner and abstaining has not made the slim pickings any more appealing. I suppose I need to try different social circles but have yet to find one that is fruitful and worthwhile in and of itself (intramurals at my school are basically non-existant, my dorm's culture is dead, my classes are barren, etc). My lifts are going up but they were increasing at a similar rate before so I don't have any reason to attribute that to No Fap. I suppose I have a bit more time each day but it isn't really noticeable.

Part of this rant is just mental masturbation; I've gone 36 days without pleasuring myself and want some attention and validation for my non-accomplishment.

Another part is genuine curiosity. Why is it that so many people advance no fap as this great innovation when mild frustration is its only side effect? I haven't particularly enjoyed or consumed much porn for years and typically went several days between sessions. Are there supposed to be benefits for non porn addicts or am I just wasting my time?

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[-] TRP8myfeels 25 Points 2 months ago

Bro. This is such a bad ass response.

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[-] Battagliare 4 Points 2 months ago

I read this with the voice of Don Draper.

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[-] whatdidshewrite 69 Points 2 months ago

A long time ago I mentioned here that jacking off is fine as long as you don't use porn and I got bashed by people who said I just wanted to justify my jerking habits.

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Its porn that's bad for you. Nothing else matters.

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After nofap, I started jerking off once a day in the shower and I noticed no difference.

[-] TheStumblingWolf 11 Points 2 months ago

That's what I find too. I've been off porn for a while. All the sexual energy gets channeled into wanting to meet women in real life. My other habits are unchanged.

The way I see it us men have an instinct to nail as many women as possible. I think our caveman brain puts a check mark in "nailed woman" when we see a naked woman but I also think it doesn't know the difference between seeing a naked woman in real life and in porn so by watching porn this instinct gets overstimulated. That's how it feels to me anyhow.

[-] scissor_me_timbers00 8 Points 2 months ago

I’d argue a bit to the contrary. The release of sexual tension when you jerk in the shower without porn is still a dulling of your natural fire to inseminate a fertile female. I do think regular ejaculation should be avoided even without porn for this reason. Once a week is the maximum I’d say you should rub one out. Preferably 1-2 per month. And you should be capable of going 90 days without ejaculating.

And with porn, as long as you don’t ejaculate, I actually think a brief edge session looking at some nubile female bodies can be quite healthy. I feel more in touch with my virile fire after a 5-10 minute edge sesh. I do think it’s healthy to maintain acquaintance with female sexuality, even when not ejaculating. If you’re in a dry spell, some brief porn can help light you up for a good gyms session. Just don’t blow your load!

The problem with this tho is that a 5 minute edge sesh turns into a 2 hour edge sesh. So that has to be consciously and sternly avoided.

Oh and don’t mix adderall and porn. It’s too good. So just don’t.

[-] German8835 16 Points 2 months ago

The problem with porn is that you get too high on dopamine just by looking at it. The jerking off is a small part of the story

[-] lvanden 5 Points 2 months ago

When you jack off you increase prolactin levels.

[-] scissor_me_timbers00 1 Point 2 months ago

That’s why I said limited to a 5 minute sesh. That won’t deplete dopamine. Can even kick start it.

You’re totally right about the brain on porn dopamine issue. But again I think that’s a moot point if you’re limiting to occasional brief looks as a fire up.

[-] darkkramer 1 Point 2 months ago

Emphasis on the last part. Really, don’t ever think of trying it. Not even once. It ruined me for three months, the effects it had on my day to day life in the end were like a first hand experience of hell on earth.

To this day I still can’t touch Adderall without jerking off and looking for ”the perfect video” for 7 hours, just to blow a sad load and feel bad the following week.

[-] Greek-God-Brody 3 Points 2 months ago

You have it the other way around. All the Nofap benefits from Nofap are from the semen retention part. You give up that, you cancel the benefits

[-] whatdidshewrite 5 Points 2 months ago

You don’t benefit from keeping semen in your balls. In fact if you do it long enough your body will expel it itself

[-] daddysputita90 4 Points 2 months ago

Such bro science. NoFap is extremist nonsense. Porn has been proven to fuck with your dopamine and sexual psychology. Jerking off picturing the barista isn't porn. Long, long ago I made a post on NoFap about how I beat a PR right after busting a nut and no one believed me, but it's true. I had scheduled trying a PR that day and I thought it'd be a good experiment to jerk off before hand to see if it'd stop me. It didn't.

Also, I've read actual science on how not ejaculating frequently is harmful to the prostate and also about how your dick can shrink if you don't have boners frequently. No thanks.

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[-] whatdidshewrite 1 Point 2 months ago

Nothing, I use a fleshlight. These days I can’t be bothered though and only jack off if I’m super horny which is probably once every couple of weeks

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[-] NYNYGRDTDYEL -1 Point 2 months ago

I think you get the max benefit by sticking to once a week, in regards to testosterone levels. I usually do twice: once on Wednesday to get me through the workweek, and once on Sunday if I didn't get laid that weekend. Once I get a job I don't despise, I think I could cut out the Wednesday.

[-] whatdidshewrite 5 Points 2 months ago

It triggers me when people mention testosterone levels. There is literally nothing you can do to ‘increase testosterone’ in your body permanently.

Yes, masturbation cessation can cause a temporary spike in test but only if you masturbated regularly before that - and even then the spike is relatively negligible.

Your body is homeostatic which means it will adapt to anything you throw at it. Try to build muscle? It will fight you on it. Try to increase HGH? It will fight you on it. Test? Same story

The only significant impact you can have on test levels is if you deprive yourself of proper nutrition and sleep, which would prevent your body from producing optimum levels. This will result in underdevelopment in height/muscle etc.

[-] NYNYGRDTDYEL 1 Point 2 months ago

The scientists checked the testosterone levels of a group of abstaining men every day for a week. During most of the week, the testosterone fluctuations were minimal at best. However, on day 7, the researchers found that testosterone levels rocketed to a massive 145% of their baseline levels. That’s a lot of T.

https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a758420/you-get-45-more-testosterone-when-you-dont-masturbate-for-a-week/

[-] whatdidshewrite 1 Point 2 months ago

Yes but this only works if you masturbated regularly before going into abstinence. Furthermore its a temporary boost that adds up to little in the long run.

[-] herpaderpadont 1 Point 2 months ago

All I know is that if I fall back into going everyday...then abstain...by day 6 or 7, I am ready to hump the couch cushions.

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[-] NYNYGRDTDYEL 1 Point 2 months ago

All I’m saying is there’s no benefit of nofap over 7 days

[-] curiouschipmunk1010 25 Points 2 months ago

This belongs in askTRP...

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To answer you question...read your brain on porn

[-] BornShook 5 Points 2 months ago

I agree but I think it’s worth while to pose the question of whether or not nofap has any benifets. The post was also worded pretty well so I didn’t mind reading it actually.

[-] strikethrough123 24 Points 2 months ago

I did nofap for a bit. I’ve been battling “porn addiction” for three years now. If there’s anything I learned, it’s mostly bullshit. It’s ugly incels with absolutely zero motivation rationalizing that porn is the root of all their problems.

You want to know how to quit porn? The answer is easy. Get out of your house, get away from your computer. Fill your day with shit to the point where you’re out as soon as you close your eyes on the bed.

You quit porn but you’re still at home on your computer? Nice. You’ve made no progress.

Got a little extra time on your hands after a long week and no plates are available? Sure. Watch porn and fap your brains out twice a month or so.

Porn becomes a problem only when you’re using porn to replace real sex and real responsibilities. These nofap fucks swearing that porn is evil is analogous to how these newly “Redpilled” members swear that it’s women who are the problem.

Nofap did, however, help me discover what the real problem in my life was. It wasn’t porn. You aren’t wasting your time, just don’t get sucked into the whole circle-jerk of it all. If you start blaming your failures and attributing your successes to whether you watched or didn’t watch porn, that’s when it becomes a problem.

[-] eccentricrealist 5 Points 2 months ago

So you argue porn is not the problem but a symptom?

[-] Wobblewobblegobble 1 Point 2 months ago

I agree, I did no fap for about 3 days (relapsed today) and this is pretty spot on. Nofap for the most part is just full of the lowest tier socially awkward men that jack off 5 times every day. If you masturbate about 1 to 3 times a week and regularly talk to people you are not in the demographic of that sub.

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[-] surfthroughlife 19 Points 2 months ago

Instead being frustrated, go lift. Go read. Go run. Go push your fucking life forward and you will look back months and years from now wondering why you ever wasted your energy on such pointless pleasure.

[-] Proto_Sigma 4 Points 2 months ago

Running 2-3 miles every morning and lifting 3 times per week. Still frustrated.

[-] surfthroughlife 1 Point 2 months ago

Questions: Do you have specific triggers? Do you have set goals? Do you do any sports? (Competition is a great release)

It took me a solid 2 months to really not be wired as fuck all the time. Meditation helps greatly when it comes to calming the mind.

The average human is not accustomed to being able to balance having such a high frequency of energy kept in the body such a long time.

642 days NoFap /HumbleBrag

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 2 months ago

I have a weight lifting program and want to get to 315 on Squats and Deadlift and 225 on Bench by mid June.

[-] surfthroughlife 2 Points 2 months ago

That’s awesome. On the same track as well man, that’s crazy. What’s your height/weight?

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[-] FKaroundNfindOUT 1 Point 2 months ago

How much are you increasing weekly on average? My DL went up about 15lbs a week with the goal of 405x2. Hit it December 21st. Squat is 10lbs/week added. Point being, DL will likely increase faster and go further provided sleep and nutrition are right.

[-] Proto_Sigma 2 Points 2 months ago

Squat has been adding 15 lbs per week for the last few weeks, and Bench and Deadlifts 15lbs every two weeks ( I'm using 5x5).

I was off my game for the end of last year and mostly doing maintenance, but as part of the new year package I'm committing to hitting the gym 3 times a week ( sometimes unscheduled developments get in the way but for the last month it's been 2-3 times per week. Now I'm back to making gains. I'll hit my all time Bench max (160 5x5) on Friday and am currently 15lbs above my previous Squat max (currently 275lbs 5x5). My deadlifts have been curbed by my grip strength; my hands fail after 235lbs. I've delayed getting straps because I wanted to get my forearms and grip up to par but at this point I think I'll just bite the bullet because it isn't worth retarding the development of my other muscles. I'm also up to 25 consecutive pull ups, which I'm quite proud of.

[-] FKaroundNfindOUT 2 Points 2 months ago

Very nice!

https://youtu.be/9SKuFe2SERs

Check this video around 3:30. Doing that exercise for time, 1 to 2 minutes several times a week has gotten me past every grip strength issue I've ever run into. As a bonus, it's great for your lower back.

Follow that guys channel and look up the form for every exercise you do. That guy knows his stuff and will keep you healthy as you get stronk.

[-] LightSkinKen 12 Points 2 months ago

I stopped beating my dick, because it makes me want to fuck everything when I’m on my regular out and about. It turns me into a pervert when I’m running errands. Seriously. It’s weird. You’d think if I abstain from jacking off id build up pressure and that would make me desire it. But it’s the opposite. When I don’t jack off im call and cool when out.

[-] KeffirLime 10 Points 2 months ago

I've actually seriously considered requesting a semen analysis at my next physical so I have a medical excuse to jack off.

The idea is that you put this sort of mental energy into getting pussy, however you seem to be expending it on more creative ways to jack off.

I don't find the majority of women around me sufficiently attractive

If you're not fucking better, then you're over valuing yourself. Most of my less attractive lays still beat jacking off, infact the women are generally wilder, more fun and willing to do whatever the fuck you want.

(intramurals at my school are basically non-existant, my dorm's culture is dead, my classes are barren, etc)

This sounds like the early rationalizations of why you should take a wank. There's pussy everywhere, start cold approaching all over, it's not going to land in your lap.

[-] Proto_Sigma 2 Points 2 months ago

If you're not fucking better, then you're over valuing yourself.

Probably. I've always been a little on the arrogant side; I need to utilize that better.

I'm sticking with no fap for a year so we'll see what breaks; either my SMV will rise or my standards will fall.

[-] bjcm5891 8 Points 2 months ago

Done cold turkey, binged and for the time being this is my goal:

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To only bust a nut every 30 days (once a month). That way you enjoy the subtle benefits of abstaining (self-discipline, more energy, other subtle differences that are difficult to describe beyond feeling more 'in tune') - yet at the same time you save yourself going after girls well below your normal standard to relieve the tension.

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Once a month stops you going too far to the other extreme, and it's something to look forward to. Enjoy getting stronger boners and treat feeling horny like a blessing. I enjoy it- it's fun to feel like this. So much better than being a serial jerk-off dribbling out of his flaccid penis every day and having no energy. Ugh...

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Treat jerking off like smoking weed- moderation is key.

[-] ireadredpillonce 7 Points 2 months ago

I think the important part of nofap is actually to stop using porn

[-] buttgoogler 7 Points 2 months ago

You might as well step your game up and do a "No nut til I die" challenge.

[-] ratpoison987 3 Points 2 months ago

Followed by - living without a dick and balls challenge.

Or simply. The castration challenge.

[-] buttgoogler 4 Points 2 months ago

Sounds pretty trendy. I bet SJWs and feminists would love it.

[-] Aurora921 6 Points 2 months ago

Today marks day 214 of my nofap journey which started on the 8th of July 2018 after about 2 years of erectile dysfunction and girls being repulsed by it. From then up to this day I have had sex on 31 total occasions which constitute an average of 1.5 times sex per 10 days or once a week, while not counting multiple rounds on the same occasion (I love to keep the statistics on these things lol). During the last month, I have noted a marked improvement of my erections occurrence and their strength. Having a somewhat longer term plate with which you can practice all kinds of shit really helps, as new partners always make you more nervous and increase the pressure on that erection. I have read that 1-2 years of nofap CAN be necessary for long term severe addicts like me, but I am feeling very well. No part of me wants to go back to the addict life, I have never felt more fulfilled then off the porn and masturbation. I do neither watch porn nor masturbate ("hardmode").

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Edit: To the people that say jacking off without porn is fine: I am not buying it. The dopamine response is strongest at ejaculation, the fantasizing also provokes a response. I am at this point no longer interested in touching myself and getting a woman once every one or two weeks should be no problem for anyone.

[-] Vikingcel 6 Points 2 months ago

I'm late but I'm down. Make it NoNutDecade.

[-] DocZTheRockstar 5 Points 2 months ago

If I didn't masturbate, I'd honestly probably have a couple of kids by now. It really does help keep my sexual drive down. Idk about anyone else though.

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[-] lokilis 5 Points 2 months ago

You're craving dopamine. Fap gives you dopamine.

Instead of just denying yourself and feeling like shit, develop some healthy habits or productive hobbies to give you that dopamine rush.

Thus, you develop a better routine and don't waste time fapping.

[-] Locko_O 4 Points 2 months ago

My two cents: Semen retetion is bs, the so called super powers come from abstaining porn. Porn is the real enemy. Doing no nut for an entire year is useless. Do NoPorn for a year instead.

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[-] dukes1998 4 Points 2 months ago

Yeah dude good luck going more than a couple of months without getting off and if you happen to expect your sex drive to plummet.

Denying yourself orgasm is absolutely torturous and completely unnecessary.

[-] InstigatingDrunk 3 Points 2 months ago

"So I have a medical excuse to jack off." lmao sentence of the year

[-] KinkysMT 3 Points 2 months ago

Just have plates that you see 1-2 times per week. Then there is no need to masturbate or watch porn. This is not incels subreddit.

[-] McVaghunter 2 Points 2 months ago

You're randomly using the terms nofap and nonut as if they mean the same thing. Well, they don't.

noFap should be called noPorn, the point of it is to avoid wasting time jacking off to digital shit and invest that same time looking for the real thing. The fact that you don't have options is what's bad, not the act of masturbation itself.

noNut as in noEjaculation is a bullshit MGTOW bait used by incels with no hopes of ever getting laid to troll naive people who can get some pussy into turning down sex. I mean if I'm not gonna eat teenage pussy at least, MAN I'M SAYING AT LEAST 6 times a week then what the hell was all this time spent at the gym for? Sure I'm addicted to road rage and I love to beat the shit out of strong strangers for fun but the main reason why I lift is to eat my daily dose of teenage ass, especially at your age man, what the fuck were you thinking taking that gaylube shit seriously?!

TRP is a place to discuss sexual strategy and I don't know how the fuck did you even think that spending one year without SEX is somehow a good SEXUAL strategy.

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[-] zestytacoz 2 Points 2 months ago

Thats why i started going to the gym, but I've turned going to the gym into an autistic pursuit of chasing bigger numbers.

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 2 months ago

Masturbation != Sex.

That's kind of the point. Masturbation is a crutch. I'm denying it to myself to see if my results improve in other areas.

I'm addicted to road rage and I love to beat the shit out of strong strangers for fun

Disregarding morality, as far as sexual strategy goes there isn't any pussy in prison. You should probably stop doing that if you actually want to get laid in any manner other than this. Just stick to refereed MMA fights or other legal means of excessive brutality.

[-] McVaghunter 1 Point 2 months ago

I'm confused, did you have sex in 2019 or not? As I said masturbation is bad only when you have no real pussy.

As for fighting, sure I do my training but everyone at the gym is a nice person and what I want is some bully blood. Funny thing is I've never been bullied growing up.

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 2 months ago

2019 has been dry thus far. However, No Nut 2019 extends only to masturbation, not sex. A big part of the motivation of No Nut 2019 is to give me no alternatives and thus get me to seek out more real sex.

Join the special forces or something, then. You can get paid to draw bully blood and you might actually take out some threats to the world.

[-] downvotesanimals 2 Points 2 months ago

I mean... whatever floats yer boat, but you sound a bit fanatical about this.

[-] Proto_Sigma 2 Points 2 months ago

Prelude to Tentacle Porn 2020

Radical No Fapper

One of these things is not like the other.

[-] ryuamakusa_daq 2 Points 2 months ago

My observations on this subject have been that NoFap has to be done for reasons other than getting more attractive to women. Also, it has to be combined with other wellbeing efforts such as meditation, lifting, working hard on your side hustle, improved mental clarity, cold approaching hotter girls than you normally would, etc.. If not, you tend to get desperate and start texting landwhales just to get an easy lay (atleast that's what happened to me)

[-] someonesopinion6969 2 Points 2 months ago

the benefits lay in your urge to fuck other women, isn't that clear?

this is a sexual strategy forum, it's not how to make your cock flaccid

[-] immadothis10 1 Point 2 months ago

well I hate to be the one bringing, but when I was at 30 days, my brain said porn was bullshit, and jacking off is normal, then I relapsed, and I noticed that I lost all the benefits, but my brain was fooling me, and I posted it that I made 30 days, and no one cared, I wanted attention too at that time,

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WHY?

because your dopamine levels are normal now, you now want girls, you know want attenton, just know you have to get used to it now, maybe your on flatline, I was in flatline at that time

[-] AllahHatesFags 1 Point 2 months ago

Once you actually get anywhere near fucking a woman you are going to immediately blow your load all over the place.

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[-] PleezSitOnMyFace 1 Point 2 months ago

I'm engaged in a lot of activities that are mentally taxing and I notice a huge difference in my motivation and clarity of thought/reaction time if I fap or don't. It really comes to a head after about 3 weeks.

[-] _do_not_read_this_ 1 Point 2 months ago

Jankin' it takes away your motivation to go out and find some real life sex. When I stopped tugging on it last December, by the end of the week I was so randy that I was chasing old girlfriends just to get my animal thing taken care of.

Just keep doing it (or not doing it, I guess). I found that after a month of non jankin' it, when I did jank it (for a sperm count test), I barely felt it, it didn't even feel good.

But lately the real thing - women, I'm talking about woman - feels incredible because the skin on my peen is no longer desensitized from jankin' it all the time.

I also think nofap works better for older dudes like me, where it might take 2 days to build up desire after jankin' it; and guys who are spending 5 hours a day watching porn and jankin' it.

[-] darkkramer 1 Point 2 months ago

Why not? Go fully celibate and work on yourself for a year, even better. I plan on doing it sometime in my life when I get bored with women. Semen retention is great IF you do yoga and/or meditate on the regular.

[-] redditer0 1 Point 2 months ago

"Are there supposed to be benefits for non porn addicts"

Yes. It increasea your testosterone and recovers your libido and energy (if you had that low).

"I don't find the majority of women around me sufficiently attractive "

Are you gay or maybe you live in a very bad place where girls are ugly or so stupid and boring that you wouldnt bang them even if they are good looking.

[-] PS2Errol 2 Points 2 months ago

To be honest, 80% of them aren't attractive these days. 50-60% of the US population is obese ffs.

[-] maroonblood94 1 Point 2 months ago

NoFap used to be a goal for me. I sincerely believed that it would change my life. I’ve made it 45 days now, and I don’t even think about it because I’m so damn busy fixing my health, working out, meeting new women, etc...

NoFap is not an action. It is passive. The solution to quitting porn is easy. Fill up every spare minute of your day with action. Gym, reading, planning, etc... Suddenly, you’ll go a month and realize you haven’t had time to fap or think about it.

This is how NoFap should be. A progressive focus on taking action on multiple areas of your life. Not on quitting the bad habit itself.

[-] thewhipofacane 1 Point 2 months ago

It is an accomplishment. It is about going far to test your own will power. The power to be self-sufficient. I am currently on a NF streak as well.

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[-] WuTangAyri 1 Point 2 months ago

I don't have time for porn most days. I find when I'm home alone I end up jacking off because im constantly horny. HOWEVER even if I do jack off that day I will still go and fuck my girl. As long as you do not let it get out of control masturbating is fine. Some say porn skews your view of women, well go and find hotter women to fuck

[-] urmie76 1 Point 2 months ago

Is Porn Making Men Dysfunctional or Are MGTOW Men Making Smarter Choices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNt\_AFm5YF0

[-] ReefaShark 0 Points 2 months ago

Post this not only in asktrp instead, but also to nofap, there are MANY nofap brethren open to the red pill who are yet to be shown the way

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[-] Adam1394 1 Point 2 months ago

You get boners multiple times each night, while sleeping (if not facing ED of course). Add to that little streaching an you can even grow 0.5 cm or so.

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[-] Adam1394 1 Point 2 months ago

I'm already 6.5-7 inch long (depends on a day, arousal etc.) so no need to.

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[-] Adam1394 1 Point 2 months ago

Mine is not 100% straight, little curvy towards down, 7 is perfectly fine.

On the other hand I wouldn't mind 0.5 inch in girth...

[-] wiffofass 1 Point 2 months ago

I think it affects girth even more than length. I remember not recognising my dick in my hands after using the pump.

[-] silent_dominant -3 Point 2 months ago

Enjoy your testicular cancer bro