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[-] WorkWorkZubZub 29 Points 3 months ago

The RedPill, and this subreddit, offers a lot of wisdom, truth, and guides to becoming a better man.

But why the hell are so many posters so fucking antagonistic? Calling anyone who doesn't understand everything right away a faggot, for example. Can you imagine if other philosophies or life improvement groups did that? It's a big part of the reason some people just write you off as angry assholes - some of you seem far more interested in puffing your chests out and insulting people than you are in helping others improve.

[-] FereallyRed 39 Points 3 months ago

I answered this deeper in the thread, but here's the pasta...

Bad words are a filtering tool. If me calling you a fag makes you lose your shit, then I know I don't need to waste any more time with you, because you're concentrating on the tone, not the content.

Bruce Lee quote....

'Its like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.'

Plus, write to your audience. There are for the most part angry young men here. They are through with simpering platitudes and bullshit advice., the so called Disney dream. That's not working for them. They want the fucking truth.

Fight club quote...

“We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.”

Last, it's a locker room. Where I can say pretty much what I want. That's an exceedingly rare space for men anymore, as most of the world has been feminized to the point that even saying a bad word is "toxic". You know, toxic may be the worst word out there. It means, I'm offended. I don't give a shit. You can be offended all you want. Your feelings are your own, I have no onus to change my behavior to supplicate to anyone.

Blue velvet quote...

"Fuck you, you fucking fuck"

[-] WorkWorkZubZub 36 Points 3 months ago

Thanks for the thought out reply. Bitch.

[-] FereallyRed 19 Points 3 months ago

Anytime, fag.

[-] max_peenor 11 Points 3 months ago

Locker room talk is by necessity rough. It is meant to filter out weakness. I'm not saying homosexuals are weak, bloops. The weakness refers to opinions, intellectual confidence and engagement. If you can't take someone calling you a faggot, then I doubt you have anything of value to offer.

That said, the mods shut down AMOGing assholes pretty quick. So yeah, don't go around calling everyone a faggot.

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[-] mrmaldoror 3 Points 3 months ago

This is the only place I talk like this. In my head, if I'm spending my time helping other dudes just to get their dick wet, then I can say what ever the fuck I want to them.

[-] redblueninja 26 Points 3 months ago

Why is trp open to people? If you have knowledge of something the general people either don't know about or don't believe it to the point of shunning trpers, then why does trp try to help other blue-pilled guys.

Wouldn't it be beneficial to individual redpillers to just keep this knowledge among themselves, have a competitive advantage in the SMP and truly enjoy the decline?

[-] redpillschool 47 Points 3 months ago

As others said (Iron sharpens Iron). None of us is as smart as all of us.

We can compare notes and improve on our strategies. Can't do that if we don't have at least some amount of openness.

[-] CainPrice 40 Points 3 months ago

I don't try to help "guys" in general. Most guys are idiots.

I try to help you. Or him. Or that other specific guy over there.

If just one man reads something I typed today and starts lifting weights and talking to girls in line at Starbucks, I did more good today with that 15 minutes during my lunch break than I did during the entire workday at my day job.

[-] redblueninja 8 Points 3 months ago

That's a respectable motivation.

[-] Bear-With-Bit 2 Points 3 months ago

Whenever I see u/CainPrice, I fkn read and pay attention. I was that skinnyfat bloopie who started lifting heavy because of words written by good men like him.

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[-] CainPrice 7 Points 3 months ago

You do know that when 99.9 percent of normal, average guys talk to 99.9 percent of normal, average girls in line at Starbucks, nobody makes a scene, right?

This idea that if you dare talk to a girl in public when you're not hot, she'll start shouting you down and shaming you, and the entire room will go silent, then join in crucifying you for daring to talk to a girl while not hot and accusing you of being a rapist - that doesn't actually happen. That's just internet manosphere fearmongering.

If you talk to a girl and she's not interested, she just won't look up from her cell phone and will tell you to buzz off. Nobody will even notice.

[-] bowhunter6 1 Point 3 months ago

Why are you so worried about what others think of you?

He who dares, wins.

[-] SynergisticSuccess 15 Points 3 months ago

For me, it’s about becoming a better man above anything else.

Ever since following TRP years ago, my life went from a depressing pile of shit, to a glorious example for other men that I surround myself with.

Sharing red pill wisdom/truths/etc won’t work on everyone; and that’s fine. But the few that picked up some of the info have also seen improvements in their every day life.

Also, abundance mindset; Stop being concerned that there won’t be enough pussy/money/etc out there for you.

[-] FereallyRed 14 Points 3 months ago

You need to continually harvest food for the village or the village dies.

A fresh influx of new ideas and new blood is necessary as there is a leveling off of the knowledge base here, and attrition as those who have achieved what they needed here leave.

You have to thresh and winnow, though, to remove the chaff from the wheat. That means you beat and throw the grains into the air so the useless bits blow away. That's why TRP is not a "safe space". If you're offended by direct talk, then you're probably chaff and useless to the community. Blow away, we're only interested in the solid useful chunks.

Plus, there is a community aspect to this, as much as we say,"do things for yourself, do the things you want to do", well, that doesn't preclude helping others if that's what you want to do.

That said, the chaff here is almost Pareto principle level (80:20) rule, and that's where a lot of the statements that TRP is full of angry misogynist losers comes from. They haven't learned, never will.

We're such a small percentage of the population that redpill to redpill competition is unlikely, and if I did meet a redpill guy in the wild, he's be a kindred soul. No need to hoard knowledge.

[-] MentORPHEUS 10 Points 3 months ago

Some people climb the ladder of life and help those who follow. I consider myself somewhat of a Red Pill Bodhisattva, in that my own enlightenment feels incomplete and inadequate if I cannot bring others to it.

Others climb the ladder of life and pull it up behind themselves and gladly stomp on the heads of those who aspire to the same path. I can't relate to this type of hypercompetitiveness but it exists on a spectrum and correlates strongly to "masculine" identities for different underlying reasons.

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 9 Points 3 months ago

When I was younger, before there was a TRP, fuck before there was an internet (in the way that it exists today) older men helped me. I'm simply paying it forward.

Beyond that, with BILLIONS of women in the world, supply will never run out for high-value men.

Incidentally, my inbox overflows with "Thank you for your post on 'X'" and "Thank you for answering my question on askTRP, it really made a difference in my life."

To me, that's much more satisfying than trying to screw someone over.

[-] redpillcad 8 Points 3 months ago

Plenty to go around. TRP operates out of sense of abundance

[-] max_peenor 6 Points 3 months ago

knowledge of something the general people

When you see an obese person stuffing their face, do you believe they think it is a good idea? That they don't know they are harming their health?

[-] redblueninja 1 Point 3 months ago

I fail to see how that relates to my question.

[-] max_peenor 7 Points 3 months ago

Because knowledge isn't the problem. People know better. Most of what we say we can stealth even bloops into agreeing with as long as we stroke their egos and fragile sensibilities enough. The problem is when we don't reject the donut, even if we know the donut is fake.

[-] redblueninja 1 Point 3 months ago

That clears it up. Thanks

[-] krowitz 5 Points 3 months ago

Knowledge is shared here with the knowledge that many would not accept it as it is. It may be open to people, but not everyone would believe in it.

The competitive advantage is not needed, plenty of fish in the sea. If the fish do run out, I'm sure it is my fault.

[-] Whisper 4 Points 3 months ago

have a competitive advantage

That's scarcity mentality, son. Plenty of chicks to go around.

[-] KeffirLime 3 Points 3 months ago

We do not "fear" the SMP as it is, if we do not qualify we know why and improve or make peace with it.

[-] Isbjornsolo 3 Points 3 months ago

Iron sharpens Iron, we can learn from each other with what works with women. Avoid pitfalls etc. If i can learn from 10 other guys within a month what would take me a year or 2 on my own. Why wouldn't i? In addition humans are social animals who like to share & cooperate if their is a shared benefit.

The aim is to help men get laid & improve themselves. Your odds of being in direct competition with someone also on TRP is quite low also.

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[-] redblueninja 5 Points 3 months ago

You made some great points.

Iron sharpens Iron, we can learn from each other with what works with women. Avoid pitfalls etc. If i can learn from 10 other guys within a month what would take me a year or 2 on my own. Why wouldn't i?

If you've been here for more than 1-2 years, I doubt you can learn anything from the majority of posts here.

In addition humans are social animals who like to share & cooperate if there is a shared benefit.

What are the benefits of sharing and cooperating with newbies and bluepillers for you?

Let me give you an example: Americans have a shared benefit of sharing and cooperating in their country. But there is a barrier to entry in the country and rightfully so. The barrier to entry to trp is an internet connection and being an incel, heartbroken or both.

[-] Isbjornsolo 2 Points 3 months ago

Your right. Once you’ve got the basics. Most of the posts are newbies spouting the same stuff. However the ECs distribute some funny articles with nuggets of gold.

Personally I help because I know what it’s like to be on a long cold streak and if any advice I can give can break it. Then it’s no skin off my back.

The mutual benefit if more of a passing down the chain. The more established members help raise others up and so on.

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 3 months ago

Established people also get the payment of stroking their ego. This is a topic they're interested in and they take pride in being good at it. They take more pride in being praised and respected by a community, a pleasure that is somewhat rare in a world of more fractured communities yet a deep human need. There is an altruistic impulse as well where it can be pleasurable to help others if it is of your own volition.

[-] EkMard 3 Points 3 months ago

It is better if more Caucasoid (Europoid race) people in places where Caucasoids are a large group, and especially places such as the West where Caucasoids are native, become red-pilled. They need it, and deserve it. Of course, the "deserve" part is idealistic, and separate from a red-pilled persective. But when the opposite is pushed on them, I want them to rise up, even if those who succeed with such information are a minority. Actually, it is better that way. Only good genes deserve to mate.

[-] Mojiitoo 2 Points 3 months ago

Well, its about where you come from too. If I never stumbled on the red pill, Id probably be very miserable atm. Im glad I found the missing puzzle piece in my life.

All it took was realising I am responsible for my actions. A purpose. Getting fit. A job. Finished my bachelors.

I love to help my friends with lowkey trp truths and I am open to help anyone who needs support so that they can get their life back on track.

[-] TheGreatGatzb 2 Points 3 months ago

As you traverse this microcosm of humankind’s total existence you tend to run into a bunch of dumbasses

The douche in the red Porsche with a Napoleon complex who neglected to replace his blinker fluid

The boss who sits on his ass & leads from the back

College losers who get fatter while smoking pot all day

And more

It’s very seldom you meet someone else who is driven, self-motivated, & wants to make smart changes for intrinsic reasons

It’s ever rarer when there’s a whole group on them sharing notes in one place

When you meet those people you help lift each other up.

As the old cliché goes, “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink”

Not everyone is worth helping, & they have to be willing to help themselves

This is a community full of people who have been lead to the water, drank it, & are finding others who want to drink water too.

It’s really that simple.

[-] ChrimsonChin988 1 Point 3 months ago

I have a teacher who teaches one semester every year for about 50 hours in total. He is paid maybe 200$/hr. He probably makes 1000s$/hr working for his own investment firm. Why does he do it?

  1. ABUNDANCE he doesn't give a fuck about a few more or a few less dollars. Money doesn't mean that much when you have plenty. Same applies to women. When you have more poon on your hands than you can handle it doesn't hurt to give some good advice away for free, even if it might cost you some pussy in the future somehow.

  2. He enjoys teaching. He actually wants to start teaching more.

  3. Paying it forward. Very satisfying feeling. Perhaps the most satisfying feeling there is.
[-] Vikingcel 1 Point 3 months ago

have a competitive advantage in the SMP and truly enjoy the decline?

Most redpies are not insecure and/or dark triad.

[-] EkMard 1 Point 3 months ago

So most have some idealism.

[-] Gnosiis_ 24 Points 3 months ago

As a red-pilled man I want to take this opportunity to voice my displeasure about the simple correlation of Liberal = Beta SJW, cuck, etc., and Conservative = Chad, strong etc.

While I can't stand the left's constant sense of victimhood, I really can't stand the right-wing supremacy that goes on in this subreddit. Men with alpha traits come all along the spectrum of right and left. In my experience righties tend to be no-nonsense and rigid, but usually not too bright. (No offense). But from a redpill standpoint it works. However as a liberal I feel my tolerant mindset and community-driven values contribute to society more effectively. Now you could make the argument that self > society but I stand by principle.

Anyways, enough of the right-wing supremacy. It really puts me off when I come back to read up occasionally. Thanks.

[-] KeffirLime 30 Points 3 months ago

The red pill does not align itself politically.

In the current climate however, it seems to be incompatible with a larger portion of the left.

It's incompatible with parts of the right too, however I'd argue there's less of a war on masculinity being championed from the right.

The influence of feminism and "toxic masculinity" are factors of the left that greatly influence the sexual market place, masculine identity and sexual strategy and therefore influence the discussion of the red pill far more.

[-] Gnosiis_ 2 Points 3 months ago

I agree with you feminism is definitely affecting the SMP. Their imperative is power and control without worry of consequences. Hypergamy is destructive. However, feminists still crave alpha traits no matter how much they squeal. Does the feminist movement really affect YOU personally? How many girls have you missed out on? The feminist movement will lose power when people - particularly strong men - call them out for their deception. As I said it's about power and control, and limiting the amount of beta contact they suffer from, not true equality of the sexes. As my feminist baby-mama says, penis envy is a real thing. I'd actually be fine with a little pussy-power, but as I've seen time and time again, women are not very responsible with power.

[-] redpill77 1 Point 3 months ago

I too am wary of the right wing supremacism. I try to temper against it, but because there're so few comments from a liberal perspective, I find myself thinking: 'well feminism provides a great argument against allowing women to have power' and 'social safety nets are very vulnerable to abuse by single mothers.' I still consider myself a liberal, but I'm becoming skeptical of the efficacy of social programs, because so many people will just leech and not do anything, which is unfair to anyone who pays taxes on income from a job they don't like.

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[-] KeffirLime 4 Points 3 months ago

You realize there's countries other than the US right?

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[-] KeffirLime 1 Point 3 months ago

Nope, just this one.

[-] diffdedbed 2 Points 3 months ago

To be fair in the US, whats left on the left for men who have their balls?

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[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

We run the spectrum, some of the loudest voices are right wing Americans.

Many things can just be ignored

[-] Joshua_Pectorals 10 Points 3 months ago

The red pill is incompatible with liberal bourgeoisie values, it puts you off because you're still blue pill. Let's look at an intolerant and strong society do you think any of these men would have trouble getting laid or telling their wife what to do? If you don't like white people then let's look at the intolerant Muslims in the middle east, they certainly don't need any help getting sex. Women are attracted to strong men.

Today men living in Western liberal countries you're taught that masculinity is bad, which is essentially symbolically castrating and weakening men. Now men need to go on the internet to find a vagina guide to learn how to stick it in a woman, and even that is becoming too "toxic and hateful" (Red Pill is 1 step away from being deleted). Your liberal petty morality of tolerance and equality got us into this situation, if you can't understand this then it's best to unsubscribe now.

[-] Gnosiis_ 3 Points 3 months ago

I hate feminist ideology. Feminists values are left-leaning, but please don't try to lump us all in neat little boxes like you conservatives tend to do. Don't confuse feminist ideology with liberalism as an ideology. You fail to understand the basic premise of liberalism. What I hope to achieve is to allow everyone the same opportunity. What you do with that opportunity is up to you. Either use it or squander it. No one should be deprived of basic human rights or anything less than their neighbor. Everyone deserves the same starting point. Most of you (in bluepill fashion) will say to "enjoy the decline". Does a leader watch as the world burns around him? Does an alpha man not seek ambition and power in order to put the fire out?

The redpill does not put me off. Right-wing values put me off. I'm a very powerful man in a very powerful position. I can choose to share my power with people who have less than I do, or I can hoard it for myself. Does it make me soft for doing this? Do I lose any power for showing GRACE? Does the right's constant need for safety and security prevent them from doing the same? When I came across theredpill I instantly realized the wisdom of it. I was always good looking but red pill wisdom put me over the top. I'll leave you with this: I'm getting ready to make a very public appearance. You'll know me when you see me. My name is Gnosiis.

[-] Joshua_Pectorals 1 Point 3 months ago

When your main moral values are tolerance, equality, and progress, liberalism quickly turns into feminism and always will.

Women want to murder their babies? Their body their choice! Gays want to get married and have sex with your children? Love is love bigots! Letting a bunch of foreigners outbreed you and destroy your culture? It's good for the economy!

What's happening in Europe and US is absolutely degenerate and disgusting. My goal is to accelerate the decline by allowing more liberalism so it will collapse the country and something beautiful can be built after.

[-] Tarmyniatur 0 Points 3 months ago

Letting a bunch of foreigners outbreed you and destroy your culture? It's good for the economy!

Thinking you belong to a certain geographical area just because you were born here and trying to deny others access to your geographical area is such a stupid idea if you think really clearly about it.

Women want to murder their babies? Their body their choice!

This could work in your favor, say you don't want children and accidentally impregnate a chick, do you want to be financially responsible for it?

[-] odaklanan_insan 1 Point 3 months ago

Abortion is salt feminism, it doesn't represent leftism. The baby should have a chance to live, due to leftism.

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[-] adool777 1 Point 3 months ago

let's look at the intolerant Muslims in the middle east, they certainly don't need any help getting sex. Women are attracted to strong men.

That's retarded. I'm middle eastern and most men are beta af. They have no issue getting married and the marriage is generally secure with kids and commitment. Dudes do not sleep around more though. You literally have to marry a girl to get pussy, in the west you just have to buy her dinner and be good conversationalist.

[-] MentORPHEUS 1 Point 3 months ago

Who the fuck cares if your wife does as you tell her or the trains run on time when it's because you live in a fascist country? I really don't understand you hard right authoritarian fanboys thinking you are the solution to the left wing authoritarian bogeyman.

Literal hitler admirers, lecturing that liberals are why TRP was quarantined... /smh

[-] Joshua_Pectorals 6 Points 3 months ago

I used National Socialist Germany and Middle Eastern Muslim countries as an example of anti-liberal masculine countries that don't need to log on to a fringe corner of the internet to read AlphaAnalGaper66's 10 point guide on how to put your dick in a whore. They know how because they're masculine.

Not sure how it's a bogeyman when the SPLC, Silicon Valley, University, Mainstream Media, Payment Processors, Banks, Politicians, all work in accordance to vehemently supress and eliminate right wing, conservative, red pill views, thus enforcing the blue pill on people. But I guess it's just in my head right?

The SPLC got TRP quarantined out of hate for masculinity and Europeans.

I'd rather live in a fascist country than one that wants you broke, dead, and brainwashed for the color of your skin and being naturally masculine, and I'm sure many others here would too.

[-] odaklanan_insan 3 Points 3 months ago

I lived in a fascist country.

All of you guys fantasize about a zombie apocalypse, because you assume your'e not gonna start as zombies.

[-] MentORPHEUS 1 Point 3 months ago

I'd rather live in a fascist country

That makes one of us. We have no common ground here.

[-] RedForEducation -1 Point 3 months ago

You sound like the bougie asshole who wants to live in Venezuela..

Well, not anymore

[-] Imperator_Red 5 Points 3 months ago

Your displeasure cannot overcome the truth, unfortunately.

[-] rus9384 5 Points 3 months ago

One thing I hate in left movement is political correctness. There are many things I like in it, but political correctness is BS. Also, loom for anarchists. They are left, they are ultra-left, but I don't see how they are betas.

[-] diffdedbed 2 Points 3 months ago

Anarchists who are left are like libertarians who are left, they are doing it wrong. How can you be an anarchist and be pro-government in all aspects of life?

[-] JagsDontCare 1 Point 3 months ago

Liberals principles are largely socialist which really benefits the female imperative. Hence, Liberals = Cucks, Beta etc.

[-] kez88 23 Points 3 months ago

Does anyone else feel kinda lonely in a RP world? I look around me and just see everything as some sort of pre-conditioned game that we're all playing out where we all just seek validation from each other and nobody really connects or does anything meaningful. Then I feel like I can't talk to anyone about it because the notions and ideas in TRP are fairly unknown and people won't really understand. I can't/don't want to talk to any girls i'm seeing about it because any time you try confide in a women it just shows weakness, and my guy mates won't really get it either. I just feel stuck and like I can't connect with anyone really.

I know game, I'm fairly popular, i've fucked over a hundred women, I've been happy most of my life, but as I'm hitting 30 soon it just feels a little empty and hollow and I don't know how to find fulfillment and joy in a post-red pill world. Anyone else found something similar or how to help fix it?

[-] HumanSockPuppet 34 Points 3 months ago

I don't see it as empty and alone. I see it as cheat codes to an on-going massively multiplayer game.

I'm always excited to see what I can do next, and how the other players will react.

[-] dingleburry_joe 5 Points 3 months ago

This is a better attitude towards it. Like your fucking Neo in the matrix. I enjoy the whole interpretation like "fulfillment comes from within" as if their fucking monks sitting on a rock. I enjoy zen views on life but rather act like a badass character in a movie.

[-] itiswr1tten 19 Points 3 months ago

You fix it by finding that <1% and gaming them to come into your circle. Men, women, old, young. Find your tribe and cultivate. We aren't meant to live alone

[-] JagsDontCare 14 Points 3 months ago

You’re just overlooking the fact that even waking up and being able to play the game is a blessing enough. Literally you’re alive in this strange matrix reality that no one can explain; that’s just amazing.

[-] Whisper 11 Points 3 months ago

It's possible you want a girl you can actually love. Nothing in TRP advice precludes this. Read my articles on control game.

[-] kez88 1 Point 3 months ago

Thanks i'll give it a look

[-] TheStoicCrane 10 Points 3 months ago

Seek to bring about fulfilment from within by setting meaningful goals and strive to make them manifest before your last breath. Learn to enjoy the journey to the utmost in a wholesome manner. The value you derive from life is what you place into it. Create one worth being happy about.

[-] adam-l 10 Points 3 months ago

What is the problem with Games? As Eric Berne puts it, "Games are substitutes for real living and real intimacy". They have “ulterior quality” and have profit as their goal. “Every game … is basically dishonest”.

There is only one answer to the lack of intimacy, and always have been: friends.

[-] [deleted] 6 Points 3 months ago

Yes, I'm beginning to feel that reality. at 27, soon to be 28. Mostly I think about how I'll be gone someday and so will everyone I see throughout my normal day. Things like leaving a legacy are meaningless, as everyone who remembers you when you are gone will be dead as well...there's no point in trying to be remembered as eventually every atom will break down into nothingness at the end of the universe anyway, so, life is pretty meaningless other than the meaning we choose to give it. I choose self-betterment. It certainly beats indulging in things like drinking to intoxication every night and jerking off and playing video games. Some might disagree. For me, the game sort of fills in the gaps between life and death. It makes reality easier to swallow too. If someone steals my cell phone, I wouldn't care as much anymore. People do things to further their own interests, whether it's stealing your shit, fucking your bitch, taking your credit, or just plain fucking you over...it doesn't really matter, it's just a game.

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A far as making it better? I don't think it gets better...I see people laughing at jokes, but part of me believes its some sort of insecurity about death. Life isn't really that funny. It's cognitive dissonance within jokes that usually makes us laugh. The more I understand reality, the less funny things get. And maybe I'll become funnier to people for speaking the truth, which most are unwilling to accept and instead they spin it into comedy. I suppose it's a way of unplugging people gently, through comedy.

Tl;dr: Live, Game, Die

[-] odaklanan_insan 3 Points 3 months ago

If a set of ideology cannot give you all the answers, it cannot be the truth alone.

You have found the red pill, but your'e not fully unplugged. TRP is only book one. It introduces you to the ugly truths of reality. It aims to make you strong and compromise those hostilities.

Now you need to find book 2, which introduces you to the beautiful truths of reality and more answers (which is not less difficult to swallow than TRP) and who knows where that will lead you... Fullfillment, is knowing that you're doing the thing you were born to do. You need to go after it at least as much as anything TRP offers.

[-] LordTilde 2 Points 3 months ago

Nihilism will get you nowhere. Find some meaning.

[-] 321PK 1 Point 3 months ago

Alternatively, maybe you’re suffering from depression?

[-] dingleburry_joe 1 Point 3 months ago

I'd recommend reading some zen/taoist books. Really will help with that meaningless stuff IMO

[-] krowitz 4 Points 3 months ago

It is lonely as you try to shed the blue bits. Then you get used to it.

[-] stoicbotanist 3 Points 3 months ago

Maybe you should consider being around a young relative who considers you a role model more often, or having children.

Children are more real and honest, and can create strong bonds

[-] i_have_a_semicolon 2 Points 3 months ago

Find a rpw maybe?

[-] kez88 1 Point 3 months ago

I dont think the answer is trying to find a unicorn, awalt etc. It's more about the whole ideology and mentality behind trp, which I agree with, but not quite sure how to proceed

[-] i_have_a_semicolon 1 Point 3 months ago

i mean, well. awalt is faulty. all women are not literally the same there is some variation obviously. TRP stipulates that getting close is opening yourself to getting fucked over because you cant control her actions, you can only control your actions. Being vulnerable is hard and means you can get hurt but theres also a pay off in the sense that this existential emptiness goes away.

[-] zyqkvx 1 Point 3 months ago

Being vulnerable alone is not the silver bullet. Thinking so will give you moments in which you believe you finally got what you wanted. This feeling will pass soon when she says or does something to shatter the illusion. The truth is all interactions between human beings is the same as dog training. You just have to be the wiser, smarter, just-er dog trainer, and not be trained by stupid dog trainers. After that there's more room for vulnerability that isn't dysfunctional. There's usually room for some vulnerability.

[-] i_have_a_semicolon 1 Point 3 months ago

I believe more people are capable of genuine non illusatory love, attraction, and commitment. The ability to be open with each other is very important to having a bond.

[-] Self-honest 21 Points 3 months ago

My main issue with most (probably all) feminist discourse I see is that it only takes aim at men, what men do that is bad, what men need to do to change, how men can make women's oppressed lives better, what is toxic about men, who is the latest target of outrage etc.

If anyone wants to be taken seriously, I need to see them talking about what THEY can do, what's wrong with THEM, what toxic behavior do THEY need to cut out, what horrors they impose on others, how they are contributing to the problem etc. in conjunction with external problems.

Outsiders probably think TRP only bashes women, and complains about their behavior and things we would, in our misogynistic minds, change about women.

I believe TRPs inclination to inspect and change the behavior of men to better the situation for men, as opposed to the feminist concept of inspecting and attempting to change the behavior of men to better the situation for women, is what validates it.

My question is this: what are the behaviors you recognize in men that you think ARE actually detrimental to women and men (if any exist)? Why they exist? And what should be done (if anything) to resolve any issues?

[-] CainPrice 22 Points 3 months ago

Mentally ill men who don't get help and end up snapping then murdering and raping people are detrimental to women.

Fathers who don't teach their sons conventional masculinity end up with angry sons who can't get laid and have a harder time succeeding professionally. Indirectly, this harms women because they have fewer good men to date and non-masculine loser men are more likely to shoot up schools and other public places and rape people.

[-] itiswr1tten 11 Points 3 months ago

A lot of men are commodity fetishists. They have no religion, they have no God, they have no greater belief than the objects they accumulate. This behavior can extend to women as well, and for the men who do truly end up lonely, alone, and terribly sad , it's usually a result of this particular behavior.

All the hardcore Reds will tell you that they love women. We might express it in different ways but ultimately we understand them better than anyone else. The saddest intermediate Reds are the ones who became attractive and then decided to take revenge on women

[-] redpillschool 9 Points 3 months ago

The saddest intermediate Reds are the ones who became attractive and then decided to take revenge on women

I think is rare because anybody who suddenly became successful probably really liked the attention and got over it!

The real problem is the Eliot Rogers out there who never become successful. They are dangerous. (He was staunchly anti-pickup).

So in a way, TRP saves female lives too!

[-] itiswr1tten 4 Points 3 months ago

Heathcliff was like that. Lots of dudes go through anger phase two. I think it's fairly common albeit brief for most who were ugly ducklings

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

You’re spot on. There was an anger/depression phase in there where I hurt some gals just cuz. Without totally unpacking all of the motivations, it was revenge against the world for “fucking me over” now that I had the smv power to push back at the smp. Screaming at the sky really.

I mean it felt a little good for a bit till I realized I didn’t want to be that person.

[-] Self-honest 2 Points 3 months ago

So in a way, TRP saves female lives too!

Absolutely does. In more ways than one.

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[-] Self-honest 4 Points 3 months ago

The saddest intermediate Reds are the ones who became attractive and then decided to take revenge on women

It's such a weak way to be.

A lot of men are commodity fetishists. This behavior can extend to women as well, and for the men who do truly end up lonely, alone, and terribly sad , it's usually a result of this particular behavior.

It is. The only things I care to own are my own actions and behaviors. Everything else can come and go as it pleases. I'm not against having nice things, but the lessons taught around here on non-permanence have increased my quality of life and happiness tenfold and reduced my anxiety almost entirely.

[-] Persaeus 2 Points 3 months ago

They have no religion, they have no God, they have no greater belief than the objects they accumulate.

first, are you saying having no god or religion is problematic?

[-] itiswr1tten 3 Points 3 months ago

Nope. I am saying having no existential purpose is the problem. Most people aren't intelligent enough to derive existential Tranquility from philosophy alone , so religion serves that purpose well

[-] Persaeus 1 Point 3 months ago

Nope.

didn't figure. i've read a lot of GLO recent post railing on commodity fetishists. i'd say it get it and am guilty of it. what can i say, i like my toys.

having no existential purpose is the problem

"existential" is one of the $10 words that have different meanings to different people - so i looked it up. from Wiki - "An existential crisis is a moment at which an individual questions if their life has meaning, purpose, or value. ... This issue of the meaning and purpose of human existence is a major focus of the philosophical tradition of existentialism."

have never believed in god (even as an altar boy . . . lol). relative to purpose i would consider myself to primarily be a hedonist. my purpose is pursuit of pleasure and experience. said pleasure can take many forms - physical, intellectual, and ethereal (what i think most people ascribe to spiritual). i've never felt the need for a "higher purpose".

all that being said - i wouldn't consider myself a tranquil person - more driven.

btw - nice flair on MRP. maybe i'm getting you confused with someone else, but thought you had been previously/incorrectly banned.

[-] itiswr1tten 1 Point 3 months ago

Some guys don't need the higher purpose, their day to day life is plenty. This was more common before the modern world, think farmers tending to the crops. I use tranquil to mean "not in crisis" not calm demeanor. I'm existentiallly tranquil but personality wise a total psycho in the high energy way.

I'm still banned from the main sub. WAS sent a mod mail for something positive I did and I couldnt resist sassing him again

[-] SimilarHamster 2 Points 3 months ago

Yep, I'm an intermediate red that has moved out of the anger phase and into the revenge phase. And I don't give a shuck.

[-] itiswr1tten 3 Points 3 months ago

For many men it's a necessary part of the growth cycle. Just try not to stay there too long, because you're still putting them on a pedestal in a different way.

[-] redpill77 2 Points 3 months ago

When you realize that even though feminism is morally wrong that the most effective way to getting what you want in this world is through taking responsibility for the happiness and ethics of those around you, you will let things go so that you can make things better. Don't let things go in terms of accountability, but let them go emotionally.

If you're unable to avoid hating someone/something, that means you are under its power. Fix that.

[-] SimilarHamster 1 Point 3 months ago

blah blah blah in a year when I'm done with my revenge ill move on

[-] nicethingyoucanthave 9 Points 3 months ago

Great post. Well said. I've often made the same point right here in TRP. We talk about women because we're interested in them. If you try to imagine a group of women talking about their frustrations with dating, you will likely hear them complaining about men ghosting them and men not chewing with their mouth closed. That isn't meant to imply that women don't also do those things.

what are the behaviors you recognize in men

A great example is what we call "the hamster." What we mean by this is "post-hoc rationalization" or, making up an explanation for your behavior after the fact - an explanation that doesn't comport with the truth.

Picture some guy who thinks he's tough, brags that he would never back down from a fight. He gets confronted, and runs. Afterward, he makes up some excuse - "I would have fought him one-on-one but his buddies were there." That's just his hamster talking.

[-] Self-honest 2 Points 3 months ago

"the hamster."

It can cause an unlimited amount of problems for everyone.

Recognizing this process in myself and shutting it down was one of the biggest steps forward for me.

Great answer.

[-] Whisper 6 Points 3 months ago

And what should be done (if anything) to resolve any issues?

You're trying to fit TRP into the same sort of mental space that feminism occupies.

TRP isn't a movement for social change. We do not judge "society" as bad or good, or have a plan for what we want to transform it into. Instead, we choose to regard it as the terrain... it's there, it is what it is, and we plan accordingly.

What we do here is teach men to navigate that terrain, for their own purposes.

[-] Self-honest 1 Point 3 months ago

That's why I included "(if anything)".

This was just an attempt to spark dialogue that might smash our visitors misconceptions about TRP.

I probably should have left that last question out (it was just an add on, bonus question), but if I did I wouldn't have gotten your excellent response and example of what TRP is all about.

Thanks.

[-] FleetingWish 1 Point 3 months ago

Why should TRP care whether you take it seriously or not?

[-] Self-honest 1 Point 3 months ago

Who is TRP? I never suggested anyone should care what I think.

[-] sadomasochrist 1 Point 3 months ago

"Have you thought about fishing's impact on the environment?"

No. We want lots of good fish, tree hugger.

[-] redblueninja 18 Points 3 months ago

Whisper recently commented:

Good looks are only a force multiplier on game. If you have no game, then zero times anything is zero.

Everyone seems to have different definitions for what game actually is. What practical advice do you have to get good at game if someone talks to hot chicks as if they are his boss's wife.

[-] CainPrice 24 Points 3 months ago

I tell guys to get their asses off of the internet and talk to women. If you read too much crap on the internet about how to talk to women, it makes you stupid as you try to over-analyze and stress out over everything.

Just talk to 10,000 women. The first 9,999 times, it's going to be embarrassing and stupid and go very badly.

That's the hard work. There aren't any short cuts or cheat codes. There aren't any tricks. Once you learn the 15-minute basics of game, nothing you can read on the internet is going to teach you any special tricks that will get you out of doing this work. You have to talk to 9,999 women and embarrass yourself and endure the shame and learn from it.

[-] NextBad 4 Points 3 months ago

Once I learned game I slept with the first women I went on a date with. The key component was I had to kiss her without asking. And man did she have IOU's, she basically begged me with her looks. No one is looking for a short cut, That's like saying math cheet sheets are short cuts, they are helpful tools. You don't need 10,000 failures

[-] CainPrice 3 Points 3 months ago

We're all starting in different places. I got out of a really bad relationship, started online dating, and was getting laid on first dates. But I also had girlfriends most of my life - not casual sex, not plates - girlfriends. And not great relationships. But still girlfriends. I at least started out knowing how to talk to women. You'd be surprised how many guys don't know how to talk to a woman in a way that makes her want to go on a date with them.

[-] Whisper 13 Points 3 months ago

TRP in its entirety is here to answer that question. I cannot meaningfully distill it for you. You're going to have to read, test, and sort like everyone else (because that is a necessary part of the process).

Abandon your desire for a step by step guide, and take responsibility for yourself.

[-] Shady-mofo 9 Points 3 months ago

IMO if you’re following basic trp advice i.e lifting, eating right, abstaining porn, working on passion/hobbies you naturally exude the aura of not giving a fuck and being outcome independent, which women can sense.

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[-] Shady-mofo 3 Points 3 months ago

It’s not no fap as much as it’s about not being a slave to instant gratification. Porn can be addictive and I personally find it unhealthy to indulge in, however I don’t mind it once in a week

[-] NextBad 1 Point 3 months ago

A lot of good looking guys can't get women, well looks are important it doesn't excuse being boring, bad in bed, no social skills. Game is romantic social skills , You don't need a six pack to get women, but six pack and game help a lot

[-] itiswr1tten 16 Points 3 months ago

What's everyone's favorite ice cream flavor

[-] RedPillLawyerGuy 9 Points 3 months ago

Mint Chocolate Chip

[-] nicethingyoucanthave 20 Points 3 months ago

reported

[-] TheRedPike 6 Points 3 months ago

Permabanned

[-] clavabot 1 Point 3 months ago

I see you are a man of culture as well

[-] teeekuuu 1 Point 3 months ago

Preach

[-] CainPrice 7 Points 3 months ago

I don't like sweets. If they made steak ice cream, I might try it. Or I might just grill a steak.

[-] meomeowmeoww 1 Point 3 months ago
[-] itiswr1tten 1 Point 3 months ago

Me either but on the rare occasion I love a good soft serve cone

[-] max_peenor 6 Points 3 months ago

I don't like ice cream. Yes, I am that evil.

[-] itiswr1tten 5 Points 3 months ago

Shitlord

[-] TheGreatGatzb 3 Points 3 months ago

Y’all better not sleep on my homie Mint Cookies & Cream

Used to be a fan of Pistachio until I watched a former plate puke some up after a rather rough Facefucking sesh

[-] itiswr1tten 2 Points 3 months ago

Pistachio soft serve or Italian ice is bomb

[-] TheGreatGatzb 1 Point 3 months ago

Italian Ice deserves its own thread

So many dope flavors

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

Even more dope flavors of Italian women.Sidebar, their men are notoriously pushy and their economy is in the shitter, so having a few spare bucks and a few smooth lines will land you a glorious bonanza of olive-sheen vajeen.

[-] Bilskee1 2 Points 3 months ago

Mango... mango everything

[-] BuzzLightGear321 2 Points 3 months ago

Was vanilla, haven't had ice cream in years since I started lifting.

[-] clavabot 1 Point 3 months ago

Combine, Mint Choco Chip with Moose Tracks/Butterscotch, And Toss Peanuts, Hazelnuts, and Lightly sprinkle coffee grounds on top (Optional) serve with a wafer.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Tiger

[-] meomeowmeoww 1 Point 3 months ago

Matcha!

[-] 321PK 1 Point 3 months ago

Lavender. Duh.

[-] PimPedOutGeese 1 Point 3 months ago

Chocolate fudge brownie...

Matches my skin in color and taste.... Well... So I've been told anyways.

[-] itiswr1tten 3 Points 3 months ago

I'll take your word for it chocolate thunder

[-] Exile_In_Redditville 1 Point 3 months ago

Beta tears with a fudgy atm receipt ripple. Ehrm I mean mint chip.

[-] PsychedelicDentist 14 Points 3 months ago

Let's discuss the ethics/morality of cheating

Have you any issue at all with sleeping with a women who is in a relationship if you are single? (Is it different is she is pursuing you or if you are pursuing her?)

Are you willing to cheat if you are in a relationship?

Are married women off limits at all?

[-] CainPrice 16 Points 3 months ago

Regarding women cheating, if a woman wants to cheat on her man with you, that's her business. She's the one who made promises to someone else, and she's the one breaking her promises to that someone else. You didn't make any promises to her significant other.

It's not your job to enforce her promises for her.

Regarding men cheating, if you promised somebody you were exclusive, then you cheat on her, that's not very moral. But you don't have to be a morally upstanding man to get laid. Lots of good people suck at getting laid, and lots of bad people get laid. In general, it's good to keep your word, whether you tell your boss you'll do something, tell your mother you'll do something, or tell your girlfriend you'll do something. Guys who say they'll do something then don't do it tend to suck. But it's not my job to keep other guys from cheating. It's not my job to enforce their promises for them.

[-] PosnerRocks 9 Points 3 months ago

There is a split in mentality that I have noticed here. Some people want to hold themselves to a higher standard of morality and respecting this institution. Being the change they want to see in the world.

Others believe that it isn't their business if a woman wants to cheat. If she was willing to sleep with you then she'll probably eventually find someone else to sleep with at some point. So enjoy the fling while it is there. She is an adult and has the agency to make her own decisions, even if poor ones.

Personally, it hasn't stopped me but I don't like to continue an affair. The drama and potential fallout just isn't worth my time. I don't need some angry husband showing up at my house because his wife was unfaithful.

As for cheating, I think the most important thing a man has is his word. If you are willing to enter a LTR and be exclusive, don't cheat. Pretty simple. If you aren't getting what you want from the relationship, man up and fix it or end it.

[-] [deleted] 9 Points 3 months ago

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[-] DigitalDragonSlayer 1 Point 3 months ago

Holy shit, what a great fucking comment.

[-] RedForEducation 2 Points 3 months ago

PPD usually goes full aspie with the marriage contract, and starts talking legal process.

Can't tell if on purpose or not

[-] nodepostgres 7 Points 3 months ago

I don't have any issues sleeping with a women who is in a relationship. I'm not breaking any commitments I've made.

I have not and will not cheat on someone I've committed to being exclusive with. If there is a problem I will address it. If the issue can't be resolved then I'll end the relationship. Simple.

[-] tnegaeR 3 Points 3 months ago

We share the same principles.

[-] itiswr1tten 7 Points 3 months ago

A big tenet here is that sexual strategy is amoral. That said, I will absolutely sleep with a girl in a relationship if her guy is not worth it to her. I don't really care why. Now I certainly don't seek these women out, and this is an automatic disqualifier for anything above plate status , but it is what it is

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

I honestly believe that any man unwilling to do this subconsciously thinks "but what if she tattles and I have to fight her man?"

Lift regularly, train seriously, fuck wantonly.

[-] ChrimsonChin988 5 Points 3 months ago

Men have killed men with whom their woman cheated. Idk not really worth the risk to get butchered by some chump over poon.

Personally I can't even understand why a dude would be angry with the dude his chick cheated on. Literally makes 0 sense to me, imo all he did was do you a favor. But apparently many are.

[-] RedForEducation 2 Points 3 months ago

Nowadays, men apologize to the guy...

Men today are terrified of conflict

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

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[-] the_strat 1 Point 3 months ago

"Crazy and abusive" because she says so?

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

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[-] the_strat 2 Points 3 months ago

This sounds exactly like how my ex would frame her side. But my ex is completely full of shit. She would say and do some truly fucked up things and then try to initiate a conversation and provoke me. Then she would beat the kids. And I bank rolled her private cash under the table businesses while she took the victim complex of both the entrepreneur and the SAHM when she insisted on both pursuing her dream career and being a SAHM. I caught her using blow, she blames me for not being there when it was offered to her on a GNO. She then convinced me to go to a neurologist because she was gaslighting me and I ended up spending an afternoon in a mental hospital after finding out that I was only her first husband. She exchanged vows with someone else (what did he care, it didn't mean shit to hi, it wasn't legal) after she had slept with 65 other people. That's what I get for marrying a sociopath. I ended up here on TRP as I was discovering the depth of her deceptions.

Just saying, maybe you don't know the truth and perhaps shouldnt celebrate someone else's misery so gleefully.

-world's biggest cuck.

[-] FieldLine 3 Points 3 months ago

Are you willing to cheat if you are in a relationship?

Any "relationship" I have ever been in was with the understanding, sometimes explicit, that I could sleep with whoever else I want. You have bigger problems than your relationship if you have to "cheat" behind your woman's back.

[-] PimPedOutGeese 3 Points 3 months ago

This is completely subjective.... It really depends on you. Thing is you stick to YOUR guns and not what everyone expects.

As long as you're honest stick with your agenda.

Me?

I have no issue with sleeping with a taken woman. My reasoning is if the bf/hubby had his shot together she wouldn't be pursuing me to begin with. In fact now that I think on it there hasn't been a single woman that was taken, and I slept with, that I ever pursued. It just doesn't happen that way especially when she sees you as valuable and/or she's a woman of "loose morals".

Would I ever cheat? I have before in LTRs... I won't now. But I also won't commit so there's that. In order for me to commit you'd have to really be something.

[-] Whisper 2 Points 3 months ago

Marriage is a contract between two people. I am not either of those people.

[-] MrMidazolam 14 Points 3 months ago

This isn't meant to be aggressive, I'm genuinely curious. "Lift" is one of the most frequently used phrases in regards to self improvement.

How well do you follow your own advice? TRPers and ECs what are your ohp/bench/squat/deadlift #s?

Also TV and videogames are often named as vices to avoid. How do you spend your time? What are your hobbies or ones you'd recommend?

[-] willbrown72 15 Points 3 months ago

I don’t think it overly matters what the lifting numbers are currently as long as they are progressively increasing as many men here are either starting or haven’t been lifting long enough to have impressive numbers, but I’m sure there are some impressive yoked dudes in here. As far as good hobbies go, reading, hiking, socializing, and physical activities are all good. Anything that is either stimulating to the mind or where you are learning, meeting people and practicing game/being a social person, or being physically active is generally good.

[-] nefariousdestiny 1 Point 3 months ago

What do you say to games that are stimulating to the mind know the same way as a book, puzzle, or social activity? I read, bike, and write, but I also game a good amount. In my opinion it very much matters what types of games you play and how you approach gaming in general.

[-] willbrown72 2 Points 3 months ago

It’s definitely not a black and white thing, I think redpill generally denounces gaming because many people waste away their lives when they could be doing many other things to better themselves and don’t have a balance.

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 13 Points 3 months ago

TRPers and ECs what are your ohp/bench/squat/deadlift #s?

No clue what my maxes are, but I exercise my core 3-4x week, and I also do extensive walking/hiking for general fitness, and I swim and play beach volleyball in the summer. For me it's more about general fitness and feeling good and not about getting big, although I am naturally able to gain muscle easily.

I spend zero hours a week on video games. The problem with video games is not that they exist, it's for guys who spend 4+ hours a day playing them, blowing up their free time.

As for hobbies, beach volleyball in season, and I write and perform original music. I also enjoy the shooting sports and SCUBA.

For young guys, esp teenage years, I would suggest playing at least one team sport to learn team work, and one individual sport to learn self-reliance. I'd also recommend the "social" sports - golf and tennis - although they are declining in importance I think, but still useful. Also, learning a martial art for fitness, discipline and confidence.

[-] max_peenor 6 Points 3 months ago

I have lifted since I was 13, as my brother was a very serious body builder and brought me into it. I was never remotely that ripped, as I valued functional strength and endurance over visual physique. (I did a lot of rough sports and then eventually military). I'm not as cut as I was at 30 but I'm far stronger than the vast majority of peers. I still lift frequently, but I've wrecked a number of my joints tot he point it limits me, so it's just to keep what strength I have. And at my age I realize it is a battle I will slowly lose.

[-] whatdidshewrite 3 Points 3 months ago

Lifting is probably the easiest pieces of advice to follow.

I used to have my gaming set up on an old pool table in my basement. I've since taken it down, dusted off the table and started learning how to play pool instead of Overwatch.

[-] htbf 3 Points 3 months ago

The people who do lift had no issues answering but it's true that there a lot of braindead incel don't don't do any effort and just like being part of an "edgy" movement that is anti feminist.

[-] ChrimsonChin988 3 Points 3 months ago

Lifted since 16. Benched 200 at 18. Nowadays I don't bother with ORM. Too many fucking injuries from heavy lifting. I'll be a cripple by the time I'm 60 if I care about the #s. I don't do anything for less than 10 reps. Usually around 20. Still going to the gym 3-4 times a week.

Furthermore, I study, play chess, ride my motorcycle, read books and fuck bitches.

[-] nodepostgres 2 Points 3 months ago

I've been a climber for years and mostly focus on sport specific training now. Prior to climbing my best lifts were nothing special; approximately 155 / 245 / 315 / 375 for 5RM @ 165 lbs. They'd be much lower now since I primarily focus on things like finger strength and pulling strength. Squatting 3 plates just isn't beneficial in climbing.

I do watch TV and play video games - in limited amounts. My hobbies include climbing, mountaineering, reading, running, cooking, and backpacking. I'd recommend anything that allows you to learn or be physically active; there are too many options to list.

[-] SimilarHamster 2 Points 3 months ago

I can barely lift 5 pounds due to being a cripple...still bang bitches

[-] BuzzLightGear321 2 Points 3 months ago

I play maybe 3 hours of video games/week on average. I limit it to after important things like lifting are done.

I'm currently on a 5x5 program, with focus on slowing down the eccentric portion of each lift (Read: Lower #'s than normal lifting). All numbers are current working weight, not 1RM.
OHP: 95 lbs (fuck I hate OHP)
Squat: 145 lbs
Bench: 165 lbs
Deadlift: 255 lbs
Row: 165 lbs

I throw in 5 accessory lifts split between A/B workouts. And workout about 4-5/week. I'm still weak, but in the past 9 months, I put on 18 lbs with similar level of Body Fat %.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Took me 3-4 months lurking to get off my ass and start lifting. Stopped for a wrist injury for a few months, other than that I’m also 2yrs into lifting. Just got home from deads day. Wednesday is by far the best day of the week.

Lifting did change my life for all the reasons that we sell here. Confidence in myself and a sexy appearance. Camaraderie in the gym with the regulars. Hitting 2 plates on my deadlift was a moment I was incredibly proud of.

5RM

  • OHP - 105
  • Squat - 260 to depth
  • Bench - 155
  • Pull - 340

Hobbies are writing and side gigs in my off time from corpland. I smoke tall weed so that’s a hobby I guess. I use it as a reward: if I get these things done I can burn a bowl etc. I’d certainly offer the advice that weed is bad and to put it down without feeling like much of a hypocrite.

[-] Batmanforreal2 1 Point 3 months ago

Bench 120kg Deadlift 180 kg Squat 140 kg Overhead 38kg dumbels.

Hitting the gym about everyday, except on sundays.

Hobbys: gym, dating, working on my cars, reading, programming useless programs, going out

Only watch tv to watch football(barca and about all champions league matches)

Videogames, idk sometimes i like to play fifa with friends

[-] Kurush559 1 Point 3 months ago

Ive been lifting for about 18 months, Im still too young to be fully grown and at full strength capacity, so Im looking forward to my body's final stage of development

Deadlift 360 but havent tried a 1rm in some months, so it may be more like 340

OHP something like 160-170

Bench Press 200, this is my weak lift because of a shoulder and pec injury I sustained last year

I exclusively front squat and recently managed 205, really need to work on this one because its lagging behind DL

Quit videogames when I was 17, very glad about it and never going back. I watch TV/movies with plates sometimes before/after sex, but dont generally do so on my own. My free 'alone' time (excludimg social occasions and having plates round) is a mix of reading, practicing my instruments, writing (for example for reddit or song lyrics), learning a language, pretty normal productive but relaxing activities

[-] 4thAndLong 1 Point 3 months ago

145/265/360/380 are my current training maxes. I can do 2-5 reps of each.

I still play a little bit of video games in limited amounts. It's more of what could you be doing instead? I enjoy cooking, working on my vehicles, camping/hiking, going out and being social, etc..

[-] Vikingcel 1 Point 3 months ago

1RMs rougly 155/250/330/470 at 190 lbs.

I have done squats like twice in the last 3-4 months. All time best squat was 405. All time best DL 500.

[-] ProFriendZoner 14 Points 3 months ago

Any progress on the quarantine? I think it's funny that on the side of the page it says "This community is quarantined: It is dedicated to shocking or highly offensive content."

Seriously?

It's shocking to tell a guy to lift, get his shit together (and how to do it), and how to be a man that women want to be around?

Highly offensive content?

Some woman can show her coochie or even a video or a woman having sex and all of the comments from thirsty beta's are NOT highly offensive?

I'm missing something here I just know it.

So, is anything going on or is there anything we can do to end it?

Oh, and what's PPD?

[-] WarViper1337 14 Points 3 months ago

I would imagine TRP will remain forever quarantined unless there is a drastic change in leadership over at reddit HQ. We haven't broken any rules and this sub reddit is very heavily policed by our mods for content. However we go against the feminist imperative and Reddit is not a very profitable company. They need outside investors and they only way to get them to sign on is appear as feminist friendly as possible.

[-] beachredwhine 4 Points 3 months ago

u / PurplePillDebate used to be a sub to debate between the blue pill and the red pill but now it's got a ton of whiny incels who migrated over after their sub got trashed for constant threats of rape and violence. There are a lot of rules that were put in place to shut them up, but much like that annoying little brother that won't leave you alone they won't go away.

Their theory is that only people born with the ability to get a girlfriend (normies) can ever get one and that no matter how much self improvement they do and how many girls they ask out they will never be able to get a girlfriend.

Both red and blue pills are united in despising these guys. So now the sub is a combination of false debate posts that are really just thinly veiled insults towards other members or so called "black pillers" (incel losers) claiming constantly that 80% of men are like them so it's all hopeless. Don't encourage them to commit suicide though that's against reddit sitewide rules.

[-] Littleknownfacts 1 Point 3 months ago

/r/purplepilldebate

[-] beachredwhine 3 Points 3 months ago

Thanks I'm not good at reddit

[-] Littleknownfacts 1 Point 3 months ago

????

[-] randomTATRP 1 Point 3 months ago

why isn't this comment deleted?

[-] Whisper 3 Points 3 months ago

In this thread, we are taking steps to ensure that automod doesn't get overzealous.

[-] Littleknownfacts 1 Point 3 months ago

Why would it be?

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

We go above and beyond to enforce reddit TOS. This includes any perception of brigading. So we ban all references to other threads directly.

Use archive.is or screenshots.

And yes, it's not granular, so it blocks everything from the domain

[-] Littleknownfacts 1 Point 3 months ago

Oh okay but a link to the sub is okay?

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Anything that links to anything Reddit wide is a no. If it's something more than a one word quip, mods can override it, but we have a policy of not making exceptions.

I personally don't trust our userbase enough to do so.

[-] RedForEducation 3 Points 3 months ago

Radio silence.

I wager that will he until their new VC goes through, surely the Chinese investor loves free soeech

[-] James_Rustler_ 13 Points 3 months ago

Mods: The quarantine is probably good for the long term benefit of the community. If this place had a big controversy Reddit wouldn't hesitate to ban the subreddit. The quarantine helps the sub stay under the radar.

[-] MentORPHEUS 10 Points 3 months ago

"You're only making it worse on yourself!"

-Monty Python executioner to condemned prisoner

[-] Selfishaltruist181 6 Points 3 months ago

Your not wrong, but its still just shows that because of the content that's discussed here we are not wanted and that even if we do follow the rules, we are still at the mercy of people who want to silence us.

[-] max_peenor 2 Points 3 months ago

I understand not wanting us to show up on all. In fact, it was happening a lot shortly before the quarantine. And maybe I understand wanting to compartmentalize their own search engine, after all they do it for NSFW. However the part where they broke outside searches and mobile users is shitty. They may not think it is censorship, but it most certainly is.

And then they shit the bed with their editorial and a link to a known sexual.predator. That was pretty funny.

[-] concacanca 12 Points 3 months ago

What are your thoughts on Incels diluting your message? I'd say that at this point the average redditor assumes that the two groups are the same.

[-] redpillschool 29 Points 3 months ago

They're annoying. But then again, we're conflated with bunches of groups.

We've been called MRAs, ALT-Right, Incels, Misogynists, Racists, you name it!

But I don't think they've had much effect on the content itself here. NPCs just don't have enough memory slots to keep all the different groups their supposed to hate separated.

[-] -TheGreasyPole- 1 Point 3 months ago

There is also the fact that they have copied and used all of the RP terminology and concepts.

They use that to support their, wrong, view that it's hopeless for them.... but it's our concepts/terms they use to say that even if the conclusion they reach from them are diametrically opposed to RPs.

This poses a new challenge to RP than those other groups. It's literally becoming impossible to tell the two groups apart except by content of message.

Even very active long term users on PPD who know the two groups core beliefs very well, and are acutely aware of the distinction, blur the groups together in long term memory. As in, "Why are all the twerps so whiny, passive and depressed these days ?".

It's going to be a real problem for RP and TRP in the future if they keep growing, because most people are going to come across the terms via incels first.... and when they hear an RP person using them to describe OP, immediately discount listening to that line of thought because "Ah, it's just another incel whining".

[-] Whisper 1 Point 3 months ago

There is also the fact that they have copied and used all of the RP terminology and concepts.

So, has PPD. So has TBP. The fact that our terminology is dominant is simply a reflection of the fact that we are dominant... we own the majority of the mindshare, and all these other groups are just a response to us, using our terms, thinking our thoughts, and spreading our ideas.

It's going to be a real problem for RP and TRP in the future if they keep growing, because most people are going to come across the terms via incels first.... and when they hear an RP person using them to describe OP, immediately discount listening to that line of thought because "Ah, it's just another incel whining".

And?

They used to call us "misogynists" until it because clear that we gave zero fucks and that would stop us not at all.

Now it's "incel". We don't give a fuck about that, either.

Frankly, I'm glad the incels are hosting our memetic vectors. We might cure some of them. That's what we are for. If 100% of TRP is pussy slayers, then we would be a failure. Because we're not supposed to be a social group for dudes who are already pussy slayers. We're supposed to turn losers into pussy slayers. That means if there are no total losers here, right now, then we are failing our mission.

[-] -TheGreasyPole- 1 Point 3 months ago

So, has PPD

OK, no.

A lot of the ECs are making this mistake. PPD is NOT “TRP for being purple”. We are not using your language to promote a purple pill.

We are a place where RP can cone and debate other people who are not RP. We have no position of our own. We either present RP... OR... argue against it.

This does cause some of our member to say “Well some of RP is right, and some wrong, so I’ll take a purple flair to denote this position”.... but each of them doing so is “rolling their own” mix.

There is no purple stance common to our purple flairs. PPD does not present one. We present RP concepts using RP terms an argue about RP.

The fact that our terminology is dominant is simply a reflection of the fact that we are dominant... we own the majority of the mindshare, and all these other groups are just a response to us, using our terms, thinking our thoughts, and spreading our ideas.

To a certain extent that’s true if PPD, see above.

What I’m saying here is that’s not true of incels.

They’re taking our terms... scooping out the original content... placing their own fucked up idiocy in there... and using our”term” to refer to “their” concept.

That’s what is uniquely dangerous about incels to RP.

People no longer understand our concepts when we communicate them. Because we say the “term” (say “alpha”) thinking this creates our concept in their mind. It increasingly doesn’t. It increasingly creates the incel concept in their mind.

We’re saying the equivalent of “I’m Gay” thinking they understand that we’re happy people.... and they’re coming away with the impression that we’re homosexuals (to use a non RP example).

The incels by so doing are stealing your mindshare.

You think you’re spreading our mindshare... and increasingly we are unwittingly spreading their bollocks about the place.

Like lots of people talking about “how happy they are” using the term gay aren’t spreading mindshare concerning happiness, but convincing everyone that there are a lot more homosexuals than they thought there were.

They used to call us "misogynists" until it because clear that we gave zero fucks and that would stop us not at all.

Dude, they still say that. They didn’t stop. They didn’t give up.

You didn’t “win” by not caring. You just gave up the fight and let’s them convince everyone we were, which they did.

Frankly, I'm glad the incels are hosting our memetic vectors.

That’s not what they’re doing. No more than anyone describing themselves as “Gay” is unwittingly hosting the “happiness” vector.

If 100% of TRP is pussy slayers, then we would be a failure. Because we're not supposed to be a social group for dudes who are already pussy slayers. We're supposed to turn losers into pussy slayers. That means if there are no total losers here, right now, then we are failing our mission.

That’s leffectly fair enough. But the incels aren’t dojng why you think they are.

As they’re growing in “mindshare” what they are doing is getting us to spread their “vectors” for them.

Like gay people getting everyone to say how happy they are... laughing up their sleeve at what useful idiots we are for their vector.

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[-] -TheGreasyPole- 1 Point 3 months ago

No.

When TRP and TBP collaborated to create PPD, you put it there.

As I said, were a place TRP and TBP members created, a long time ago, to debate RP. They needed to do so to have a place that wasn’t their subs to do so. (As on their subs such debate is banned).

The current mod team are about the 3rd-4th generation on from this creation. We continue to exist solely to debate RP, not in any sense to create a “purple pill” alternative to TRP.

We aren’t “taking your lingo” the people who use RP terms there are RP. It’s no more “taking the lingo from RP” than askTRP is doing so. Or that TRP is doing so.

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[-] -TheGreasyPole- 2 Points 3 months ago

No, it's bad for the world and it's bad for RP.

When they take words and concepts that RP use to goad men into action and they turn those very same words and concepts into things to convince men to give up, turn off, lay down and die ... then it can no longer be used for it's original purpose.

Things we developed to be descriptive of reality, and the terms we gave those things.... are no longer descriptive of reality in the minds of people hearing them. They're now descriptive of a warped, nihlistic, and inaccurate reality.

To use a silly example... if "Gay" as a word was useful to the world in describing happy people. That usefulness was lost when it became repurposed to use to mean "Homosexual". It no longer created the concept in peoples minds it did before. If it was repurposed again to mean "Pillow" then homosexuals would lose the use of it to create a concept in peoples minds too.

Words like "Alpha" and "Beta" and "AF/BB" and "Hypergamy" were useful because the concepts they were associated with reflected reality.

Incels are changing those concepts and by doing so.... RP is losing the ability to describe reality using the terms it created to do so.

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[-] -TheGreasyPole- 1 Point 3 months ago

But they really are growing in volume and number.

And because people "don't listen to them"... when they see "alpha" now, or any TRP term... they don't listen to the RP guy either.

In their mind, he's just another incel. No need to read more. Why go to that TRP place ? Is that what they're calling their new refuge now r incels is shutdown ?

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Brass tacks. The only time people listen to incels is when they rent a van, and even then they don't really.

You be the example for others to follow, and if doll fuckers can usurp you, then maybe you weren't that good to begin with. Your little sub spends an inordinate amount of time around incels, is it any wonder you over blow their influence?

As for eyeballs, Reddit is a dead end. The quarantine, VC funding round and lack of monetization made that clear. It will be another plume or digg soon enough.

Besides, the femenists hate would make crap up if they didn't have people to misinterpret it for them, they already have.

[-] CainPrice 12 Points 3 months ago

Most men suck and are stupid. Incels included. I type stuff so that just one guy will start lifting weights and talking to women. If that one guy improves his life, just a little bit, I did good in the world.

If I wanted to wage war against stupid, I'd have to quit my day job and dump my girlfriend and never sleep again. And I'd still never make a dent.

[-] concacanca 6 Points 3 months ago

You are one of the more reasonable reds and you make a fair point about waging an unending war against stupid.

I guess the point is that by losing control of the narrative and your own message, I see the odds of you reaching that one guy to be diminished. I find it strange that early TRP advice is 'lift, STFU, sidebar' but no one seems to have told the blackpillers to stfu.

[-] CainPrice 5 Points 3 months ago

It's unreasonably optimistic to imagine that nobody is beyond hope or that everybody is receptive to improvement. But I can't individually judge every man and decide who's worth keeping around and who can't be reached.

So I just type stuff let them do what they want with it. That's how the internet works in most areas, so why not in the area of men learning about sex, relationships, and how shit works with women?

Along those lines, I try to be a good example to others. I try to carry myself, both on and off of the internet, with a certain positive-but-realistic attitude about masculinity, women, sex, and relationships.

There is plenty of Red Pill stuff that is true, unpleasant to hear, not accepted by the general public, impolite to say, and gets you branded as an evil woman hater. But just because that stuff is true doesn't mean women suck, life sucks, society sucks, relationships suck, or whatever. It's just something you have to work with and work around, like anything else in life. Your boss might suck, but you still go to work every day and find a way to make things work so you get your paycheck. Your house might have a lightswitch in a funny place, but you get used to it. Your dishwasher breaks, so you hand-wash dishes until you have it fixed. And the sex and relationships game might not work the way you'd always thought, but you learn to deal with it.

[-] party_dragon 1 Point 3 months ago

Why aren't you endorsed? /u/redpillschool

[-] KeffirLime 9 Points 3 months ago

The way society is set up, it was always likely that this would be the case.

The most depraved, lost individuals are always in need of the most help and hence the most likely to discover Ther Red Pill.

For some men we're the last stop before ending it all and I think we've certainly brightened the path for a lot of those men.

[-] krowitz 6 Points 3 months ago

I could care less. People believe what they want to believe anyway, and the message is not for everyone.

[-] FereallyRed 6 Points 3 months ago

I don't care if you listen or not.

I RP for me, and for the few who might lightbulb from something I wrote.

[-] itiswr1tten 4 Points 3 months ago

It doesn't bother me that people associate various red groups with these characters. Those people are too room temperature IQ to critically think anyway

[-] clavabot 1 Point 3 months ago

I am stealing that Line

[-] max_peenor 4 Points 3 months ago

I'd say that at this point the average redditor assumes that the two groups are the same.

It's easy to dismiss uncomfortable things as being an undesirable other. It's a pretty normal behavior, which is expected from the normiesexual. It's equally easy for me not to give a shit what they think.

As for the actual incels, some are just lot and are looking for help. They are welcome. Some are just men looking to burn down the world because the world doesn't want them. Well, those guys are right; we don't want them either.

[-] redhawkes 1 Point 3 months ago

Who cares, just filter the noise.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

They need our help the most. They are least likely to accept it.

What others think of us is not my concern

[-] hyperrreal 10 Points 3 months ago

/u/redpillschool can you explain why I was banned here? I've never commented/posted here until right now, and had no intention of ever coming over to participate.

On PPD, there's a perception that TRP is a hugbox in many ways. And doing SJW-style preemptive bans def makes that belief seem more credible.

[-] redpillschool 8 Points 3 months ago

We don't have a policy of preemptive bans. I don't know why you were banned. Mod tools are terrible so there's no way to easily look back in time and find out.

My guess is that you did participate, or at least on one of our sister subs.

[-] hyperrreal 5 Points 3 months ago

My guess is that you did participate, or at least on one of our sister subs.

Nah, you can tell because when you're banned without having ever commented/posted, reddit doesn't send you a ban message via PM.

I had no idea I was banned until one day I noticed the submit sidebars were gone when I was reading a post here. I know a number of people on PPD have had that experience with this forum.

It's an interesting similarity TRP has with a lot of social justice/left leaning subs, where mods also ban people who participate on subs they don't like, or who says things in other forums they disagree with.

[-] redpillschool 11 Points 3 months ago

It's an interesting similarity TRP has with a lot of social justice/left leaning subs, where mods also ban people who participate on subs they don't like, or who says things in other forums they disagree with.

You got us. You got us so good. I said "we don't have a policy of pre-emptive bans," but you replied on our sub on which you are not banned, in a thread where we invite people to disagree with us. I guess we really are like SJWs where we ban people who disagree with us.

[-] hyperrreal 8 Points 3 months ago

You invited people to come here and disagree as a way to boost traffic in response to your quarantine. That's a reasonable thing to do, but it's not out of some love of debate/discourse.

I guess we really are like SJWs where we ban people who disagree with us.

Agree and amplify schickt aside, TRP does have a lot in common with left-wing idpol. I think that's why both sides try so hard to perform wokeness/edginess (respectively). Helps mask how bound up both groups/ideologies are together.

[-] Texastentialism 5 Points 3 months ago

I mean this is all well and good, but the fact remains that u/hyperrreal at one time was preemptively banned. He had to be unbanned to participate in this thread.

[-] redpillschool 9 Points 3 months ago

Like I said, mod tools are not very good so I cannot confirm this is the case. We can take hyperreal's word for it that they didn't receive a notice, but I've had members who have participated and they also have missed or think they didn't get the message.

All I can say is, we don't have this policy, and I have unbanned them to rectify said issue. There isn't much more you can get out of it.

[-] i_have_a_semicolon 6 Points 3 months ago

Ah a good ol he said she said situation but there's no cuck to take the fall

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[-] DrMrJrSr 1 Point 3 months ago

Ooh, can we have red pill hats and march on Washington?

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[-] DrMrJrSr 1 Point 3 months ago

Punch yourself in the dick for taking it seriously, dumbass.

[-] cxj 2 Points 3 months ago

I for one hope u/hyperrreal remains unbanned !

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[-] hyperrreal 3 Points 3 months ago

I didn't say anything about safer bot. I said preemptively banned, which could be automated via a bot or just done ad hoc by human mods.

But it's irrelevant. B/c arguably what you're doing here is worse than the subs using saferbot. At least they are upfront about what they do. They aren't making any pretensions about what kind of forum they are.

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[-] TheRedPike 1 Point 3 months ago

Might have happened, but if it did, there would be a message. This is a site process, not a mod process. If it didn't happen, take it up with reddit.

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[-] itiswr1tten 1 Point 3 months ago

Why do you care, Jesus Christ. Do you realize how ridiculous claiming indifference is when you do so in a post... On our forum.

What people misconstrue as a hug box is just moderation. Rule 0 is stay on topic for a reason, this is not a debate sub. If you wanted to, you can post an ask trp if you needed theory clarification. If everyone was allowed to come in here and shit all over everything there be no point in the Forum

[-] buartha 6 Points 3 months ago

None of what you said addresses the fact that he was banned without posting a comment. Prebanning people doesn't qualify as moderation to keep the sub clean, especially when it's someone like hyperreal that leans red anyway.

And for the record I'm guessing that it was almost certainly nothing to do with what you've said and was likely a revenge banning for the fact that a couple of TRP mods have been on/off banned from PPD.

[-] itiswr1tten 2 Points 3 months ago

Can you go back to not being inclined to post here

[-] buartha 7 Points 3 months ago

Nah, watching the terp ECs discuss things is like a freakshow dedicated entirely to intellectual special needs, I underestimated how difficult it would be to tear my eyes away from the trainwreck. So am going to stick around here and enjoy myself for the duration

[-] Littleknownfacts 3 Points 3 months ago

That's the spirit!

[-] vandaalen 2 Points 3 months ago

And same as eating too much popcorn, it's a self-destructive behaviour. Maybe you should start to go cold-turkey in order to get yourself into a state where you are able to better yourself.

Both popcorn and outrage-porn that is.

[-] sublimemongrel 6 Points 3 months ago

I really don't think he needs the lecture.

[-] vandaalen 1 Point 3 months ago

Thanks for your opinion.

[-] buartha 6 Points 3 months ago

I feel like my enjoyment of terp cringe is not going to negatively affect my life in any way, but should I ever feel like it does I will be sure to stop and dedicate the time I've saved to lifting weights with one hand and furiously masturbating to Meditations with the other

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[-] buartha 1 Point 3 months ago

Don't be so hard on yourself, I'm sure that posting on TRP once in a while doesn't automatically make me that much of a loser

[-] hyperrreal 4 Points 3 months ago

lmao dude, you're throwing RP memes/tropes at me rather than responding to my comment.

I never said I was indifferent, I said I was banned here despite the fact that I have literally never commented here, posted here, messaged modmail here, or had any other interaction with the forum. And I'm curious as to why the mods here banned me preemptively like many SJW subs do.

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[-] hyperrreal 3 Points 3 months ago

A real answer would be nice.

But besides that, I'm raising the issue b/c I think how this forum is lead/moderated is related to why it seems to be on the decline in terms of traffic/relevance.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Well, if you were treated poorly on a place you've never visited, I guess it's gone to shit.

Quarantine had nothing to do with it.

Then again, it's clear that the two forums have a giant disagreement on what counts as good moderation.

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[-] TheGreatGatzb 9 Points 3 months ago

What’s your go-to music genre for flexing on uncultured swine?

[-] FereallyRed 20 Points 3 months ago

Mongolian throat singing of course.

[-] itiswr1tten 5 Points 3 months ago

Unironically xiger xiger by hanggai is a jam

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 4 Points 3 months ago

Unironically xiger xiger by hanggai is a jam

Those dudes are the Central Asian version of the Dropkick Murphies. Or Flogging Molly. One of them.

[-] FereallyRed 1 Point 3 months ago

I like. Makes me wanna wrassle.

[-] TheGreatGatzb 3 Points 3 months ago

My test levels just rose by 300 points

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

That stuff makes me want to kill things. It sort of makes sense when you consider history.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

As someone whose go-to culture flex is that I was training to be an Opera singer before I deviated to my chosen field, part of me greatly hopes that you can actually Mongolian throat-sing.

Probably just trolling, though.

[-] FereallyRed 2 Points 3 months ago

Jazz, man.

60's ad 70's funky jazz

Brubek,(Take Five and listen), Davis, Parker, Coltraine, Baker.... mellow but you can both feed and fuck with them in the background.

Then I bust out the throat singing during the bridge. Or orgasm, whichever comes (pun intended) first.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Love it. Once I get my tuvan throat singing together I'll hav to give it a try. By the way, you might appreciate "Money Jungle." I's a trio record that almost didn't get made, because each of the musicians was a band-leader/composer and they fought constantly while making it. On drums, Max Roach. On piano, Duke Ellington. On bass, Charles Mingus.Literally a 'who-the-fuck put these guys in the same room' record. Their of Caravan is one of my favorites ever.

[-] FereallyRed 1 Point 3 months ago

Thanks for the recommendation.

It's on the youtube!

Listening now..

[-] Vikingcel 2 Points 3 months ago

Check out The Hu.

[-] FereallyRed 2 Points 3 months ago

The Hu

9 million views and english subtitles, even.

[-] Vikingcel 3 Points 3 months ago

If you like The Hu, you might enjoy Heilung as well. My personal favorite.

[-] PimPedOutGeese 2 Points 3 months ago

This is fantastic

[-] Ceeda 3 Points 3 months ago

Electronic/Dubstep all the way.

[-] TheGreatGatzb 2 Points 3 months ago

I’m a big fan of Madeon’s fuego music. If you haven’t listened to him, then you’re missing out big time Pleighboy

[-] redf5 1 Point 3 months ago

Some EDM: Deadmau5 & Getter confuses them.

[-] eccentricrealist 1 Point 3 months ago

Death metal. I'm listening to early Sepultura a lot these days.

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 3 months ago

Rap is often the most explicitly RP, but I like good music in virtually every genre (except country.... shudder).

Score Music, Classical, Classic Rock, Jazz, Blues, R and B, even some of the better Pop (Michael Jackson).

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Culture club

[-] RaYnDaWg1123 0 Points 3 months ago

Rap. But not the 21 Savage, Lil Peep, Lil Yachty, Post Malone crap that most people are used to hearing. I’m referring to artists like Maxo Kream, Rittz, J.I.D., Hopsin, Tech N9ne, Wale, Kendrick, J. Cole, Locksmith, R.A. the Rugged Man, OverDoz., Run the Jewels, Logic (excluding the 1-800 song, that is total trash), Action Bronson, Vic Mensa, and tons more. Things you wouldn’t ever hear at a party but are actually quality records. Old hip-hop has its place in my playlist too, like Em, 2Pac, Bone-Thugs-n-Harmony, NWA, Dr. Dre, etc. It can take a while to find any sort of quality rap amongst the sea of garbage, but it is out there.

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[-] Shady-mofo 3 Points 3 months ago

Yeah he comes off as an elitist who just got into rap with the most typical ‘look at my good taste in hiphop’ list of all time.

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 3 months ago

Yung Gravy is simplistic but lines up to some extent with TRP and is rather catchy.

Example

[-] RaYnDaWg1123 2 Points 3 months ago

Ever heard Hopsin? Lots of people claim he’s corny as fuck, and he can be, but he spits tons of knowledge related to TRP. Not something you’d wanna necessarily play when you’re with your buddies, or chicks, but it’s very insightful. Check out Ill Mind of Hopsin 5 and Nocturnal Rainbows by him.

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 3 months ago

I like some of Hopsin. I really like Nocturnal Rainbows. Ill Mind of Hopsin is technically impressive but a lot of his music tends to be really preachy, often more than I'm in the mood for, even if I tend to agree with him.

I'm more of a singles than an album guy for the most part, which is often a problem, but I'd be open to hear more of his tracks if you have recommendations.

[-] RaYnDaWg1123 1 Point 3 months ago

Hm.

I’d recommend some album tracks first and foremost because he has a lot of good content on them, if you’re a singles guy you might not want to check them out, but they are:

Sag My Pants

Rip Your Heart Out feat. Tech N9ne

Ill Mind of Hopsin 7

Nollie Tre Flip

I Am Raw feat. Swiz Zz

He does have good singles though. I’d recommend:

You Should’ve Known w/Dax

Low-Key

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[-] chadwickofwv 1 Point 3 months ago

Those are the ones I hear the most at parties. I do have some unusual friends though.

[-] Isbjornsolo 9 Points 3 months ago

Your right. Once you’ve got the basics. Most of the posts are newbies spouting the same stuff. However the ECs distribute some funny articles with nuggets of gold.

Personally I help because I know what it’s like to be on a long cold streak and if any advice I can give can break it. Then it’s no skin off my back.

The mutual benefit if more of a passing down the chain. The more established members help raise others up and so on.

[-] William_Howe 9 Points 3 months ago

Hello, TRP ECs et al. Why do so many of you find it so difficult to abide by PPD rules that you get permabanned? Seriously, do you know how hard you have to work to get permabanned?

I suspect it's at least partly due to difficulty with cognitively switching from TRP, where you guys obviously spend most of your time, to PPD, which is a very different place, but I am open to hearing other possibilities.

[-] Whisper 6 Points 3 months ago

I suspect it's mostly about not caring. TRP teaches how not to give fucks, and how a flippant answer is often better for the speaker in the long run than the most well-reasoned argument.

PPD is really nothing but a flea in the tail of the TRP bear. Nothing serious is happening there, so there's very little reason not to screw around.

[-] redpillcad 5 Points 3 months ago

I never post there. Waste of my time. I am willing to help but the guy has to want help and actually be open to it

[-] William_Howe 2 Points 3 months ago

Thank you for providing this valuable perspective.

[-] sublimemongrel 2 Points 3 months ago

I don't think that's what she is talking about.

[-] 321PK 1 Point 3 months ago

The lightbulb has to want to change....

[-] redpillschool 3 Points 3 months ago

Edit: I'm misremembering I think I'm thinking of a different sub. Don't listen to me.

[-] William_Howe 5 Points 3 months ago

Yes, many many forms of taunting are perfectly legit on PPD as long as it doesn't devolve into incivility or personal attacks. On my main account, I am a snide and impatient piece of shit about 80% of the time, and in four years of participation, I have had one comment deletion and no tempbans.

(I am curious in general about people who get themselves banned from PPD but have never had the chance to ask any of them what the story was; now that you guys have made yourselves available, I'm taking advantage of the opportunity.)

[-] -TheGreasyPole- 5 Points 3 months ago

When I was modded I was sooooooo disappointed to see I didn't have one single mod note.

I'm condescending as fuck, swear a lot, generally act like an ass half the time, can be snide and snarky... but, nothing.

My behaviour didn't even cause one single blip high enough to register as a mod note in 3 years of active participation.

Yet.... some guys come in and just can't keep to the rules enough to not get banned in their first 24-48 hours.

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

I'm not banned.

[-] -TheGreasyPole- 2 Points 3 months ago

No, you’re an extremely sensible RP poster who comes and contributes within our rules in good faith.

In a reply elsewhere I was actually going to use you as my example of “an EC who consistently posts high quality content to our sub and keeps our rules”.

In your case I wish you’d drop by more often, because we desperately need people who can present/defend RP concepts well in a smart way that makes RP attractive to our lurkers.

It’s hard holding up the temple all on my own, or with only the assistance of a few dumbfucks who are more trouble than their worth.

OK, perhaps that’s unfair. Perhaps we have 3-4 RP posters who can present it well to some level. But we need... and TRP would benefit from.... more guys like you strutting RPs stuff in front of the 2k-3k non-aligned lurkers most of our threads attract. It’d help raise the quality of TRPs intake.

[-] max_peenor 2 Points 3 months ago

In your case I wish you’d drop by more often, because we desperately need people who can present/defend RP concepts well in a smart way that makes RP attractive to our lurkers.

I used to post there a lot but an ex-mod decided I was her pet and went full bitch mode on me. Don't have time for that. I will admit I'm much more fond of the new crew, though bigDtard is tiresome in general. Perhaps I should visit more.

[-] -TheGreasyPole- 1 Point 3 months ago

Please do. You’re very welcome.

We need people who can debate an RP position well within our rules.

From the viewpoint of the PPD mod team this event was agreed to in the hope we could attract people like you to come back and get a really high quality debate concerning RP going.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Doing a bang up job so far.

[-] SteelSharpensSteel 3 Points 3 months ago

You think that's bad? Try MRP.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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[-] Proto_Sigma 2 Points 3 months ago

I fart in your general direction.

[-] William_Howe 2 Points 3 months ago

It is remarkably easy to do.

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[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

first answer ive heard that makes sense

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[-] itiswr1tten 1 Point 3 months ago

Never been an issue for me in the time I've been posting there. Some are more ego invested than others and I don't waste time engaging with people dedicated to misinterpretation (to be clear that is some, not all)

[-] WarViper1337 1 Point 3 months ago

No idea. I have only been to the PPD sub a handful of times and never posted there. My guess would be that there are a lot of young angsty men around here that are not afraid to start up an argument.

[-] sublimemongrel 5 Points 3 months ago

A lot of new people come to PPD just like, itching to fight. At least that is what it appears to be when they start going all overly aggro from the get-go and super defensive for little reason, if any.

But some of the terper ECs/older members seem like they are trying to keep up some manospherian caricature type persona. Like they rarely if ever break from it. It's weird. Others come and try to AMOG a lot, which is really annoying and it's like at some point you have to realize that we are used to that shit so geez get a new schtick or something.

[-] Exile_In_Redditville 3 Points 3 months ago

My favorite is that when they bring their pissy and snap for no reason it's always at a female poster. When you ignore it and carry on they try to go all "HYPOAGENCY BOYOS AWALT IN ACTION!!" When really it's just a giant skidmark of misdirected anger phase blathering.

Edit: mobile formatting weirdness

[-] WarViper1337 1 Point 3 months ago

I mostly see that type of behavior you describe from the MGTOW community. Like I said though there are a lot of angsty teens around here that have no issues with being assholes on the internet because there are no repercussions for doing so. The mods here do not endorse harassing other sub reddits.

[-] sublimemongrel 3 Points 3 months ago

I would not put what I am describing in the category of "harassing other subs" I do not at all think that occurs. PPD is open to all as long as they abide by the rules, obviously given our subreddit's topics, we rely on terpers participating. But I mean what I described is based off of 3 years of observation at this point, and when I'm talking about newcomers I do not mean just terpers either, that happens with a lot of newcomers regardless of how they identify.

[-] TheRedPike 1 Point 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure you all hate me. heh But I really was just trying to help.

[-] killtheender 8 Points 3 months ago

Have any of you guys ever been in a happy relationship pre TRP?

[-] redpillschool 24 Points 3 months ago

Yes, until it wasn't.

For some of us (myself included) we had some natural gifts that made us successful with women, but still fell for the (now obvious) traps that sunk the ship.

One might think that you have to fail before you can succeed because that failure is knowledge on how to succeed. But I'm not sure I'd ever get as far as I am today without TRP.

[-] I_Dont_Type 1 Point 3 months ago

Without TRP you don't know where you're going wrong, the Bluepill message that society preaches makes sure of that.

[-] CainPrice 7 Points 3 months ago

Many of them. Though they all tended to follow the same arc.

Low sex, lack of gratitude, and after things got comfortable and stale, she eventually had an opportunity with someone else, and the new opportunity seemed better to her than the stale relationship with me. I'd always get dumped or cheated on, never fucked the way I wanted, and never treated well. At first, things were always great. She worshiped me. But the very second the honeymoon phase ended and things were comfortable, every girl turned bitchy, became ungrateful, and the second another guy came along who liked her, the relationship ended.

The Red Pill has significantly improved the length and quality of my relationships.

[-] PimPedOutGeese 6 Points 3 months ago

This. always this. Pre RP anyways...

Ill never forget my first. We were pretty damn inseparable. We had wild sex just about anywhere and everywhere and almost in front of anyone (including both are moms... Long story that one). After about 7 months ago she ran with some dude up North. I was pretty much devastated... And I couldn't understand why.

Looking back I know EXACTLY what happened. She branch swung as I was inferior at the time. No challenge. AS SHE SHOULD! AWALT. I can't blame her for doing her anymore than most guys for looking at women. It's in their nature. Yours will too if you don't keep frame.

Since RP I concur! My relationships have improved.

[-] Batmanforreal2 4 Points 3 months ago

Yes

[-] subnauticalife 3 Points 3 months ago

I was in a very happy relationship for 3 years, and began reading trp about halfway through it. I’ve never felt more on top of the world than I did in that time. Trp in my opinion is a very complex way of telling most guys to “get a thicker skin.” Lots If people are sold on the idea of a happy ever after, and trp shoots down a lot of that and basically says, here’s what you’re really going to deal with throughout your love career. Once you get past that anger phase, you can embrace the way culture is headed and understand it.

[-] NextBad 3 Points 3 months ago

Yes, but not pre TRP ideology, once I learn to put myself first I did well with women, I came to TRP because it matched my values in principles

[-] Whisper 3 Points 3 months ago

"Pre TRP" is a bit of a tricky preposition for me, because things I learned on my own before TRP existed became a lot of what TRP is. So in my case, it's hard for me to say what is "pre" TRP, and what is post.

That said, a lot of TRP study material is sourced off my relationship with "FunSize", which has been going for quite a number of years now.

[-] willbrown72 2 Points 3 months ago

I was in a 3 year long relationship where I broke up due to distance and was sad about by it for about 3-6 months. It was a happy relationship all the way until the end for both sides. I think TRP gives men that aren’t taught the pitfalls and wrong things in a relationship a fighting chance and an ability to lead their life. And a big part of TRP is for self improvement in and out of being in a relationship. So even if it was successful before, it could be even better.

[-] SteelSharpensSteel 1 Point 3 months ago

Yes, and still am. Things have just improved though afterward.

[-] FereallyRed 1 Point 3 months ago

Yes.

[-] Persaeus 1 Point 3 months ago

yes, many. i would say the arc of the relationship under performed significantly though compared to post TRP

[-] nodepostgres 1 Point 3 months ago

Absolutely - for awhile.

TRP has helped me understand what caused those relationships to fail in the way they did. TRP has helped me identify my own shortcomings and poor behavior patterns in relationships. TRP has helped me understand what a healthy relationship is.

And TRP has also made it more difficult to find a satisfying relationship because I won't put up with toxic behavior anymore.

[-] axletruss 8 Points 3 months ago

If you're not supporting marriage then what is "married redpill"?

[-] redpillcad 32 Points 3 months ago

I dont support cancer but I donate to cancer research

[-] clavabot 3 Points 3 months ago

A hero of the people

[-] RedPillLawyerGuy 6 Points 3 months ago

I always take this phrase to mean "redpill within the context of a committed relationship." Just because someone gets into a relationship doesn't mean their fundamental biology changes. Women like to know that they have a high-value man, and men like to know that their woman is loyal to them.

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My belief is that most RP'ers who don't support marriage are actually against the consequences (and likelihood) of a marriage failing, and the total working-over men get in our family court system. Some are afraid of their emotional turmoil in the event of a failed relationship (AWALT means that women are predisposed to always search for a higher-value man, implying that loyalty is difficult, if not impossible). We brush this off by saying "She's not yours, it's just your turn." Even if that turn lasts 30 or 40 years. It's an attitude of acceptance that to be in a LTR is a state of constant vigilance.

[-] itiswr1tten 4 Points 3 months ago

To be totally explicit, MRP and trp are separate Enterprises run by different people. Core red pill stops at the question of marriage and procreation. One could argue that bitch management also applies to children, but core red is don't get married no questions asked. The fork in the road exists because it has to

[-] redpillschool 4 Points 3 months ago

Core red pill stops at the question of marriage and procreation.

I disagree. We address both:

Don't get married and have kids if you want.

I plan on starting up a series soon about raising kids in the current social climate.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

The red pill parenting is an offshoot of MRP. It has some good stuff, though isn't popular enough to get a ton of traction

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 3 months ago

I'm hyped. Any idea when it's coming out?

[-] TheImpossible1 4 Points 3 months ago

It's people who made a mistake trying their best to keep it together.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Guys don't keep relationships together, women do.

MRP is about making guys the prize, and deciding who gets to stay in their life once they are a prize

[-] max_peenor 2 Points 3 months ago

Some of us went stupid decades ago.

I would NEVER get married now. It's also a big reason why I don't get divorced. Why bother? I'm not going to do it again.

[-] Skyhawk_And_Skyhead 2 Points 3 months ago

I wouldnt advise you to jump in a shark tank, but if you're gonna, I'm gonna send you an amazon link to a sharksuit

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

They are for men who got married before getting redpill.

And it's not like marriage is frowned upon by TRP, it's divorce.

[-] antariusz 1 Point 3 months ago

A different group of people latching on to popular ideas for their own benefit, much like how TRP stole its idea from the matrix, “married red pill” stole their idea from the red pill.

[-] diffdedbed 8 Points 3 months ago

Where does RP put love in this equation?

I agree with RP up to awalt, once the woman is hooked on you. I've seen women who should branch swing because the guy is a total loser stick with said total loser because she "loves him".

[-] itiswr1tten 13 Points 3 months ago

Women can love but it's conditional. Even purples will admit this. There's a reason it's a meme of a woman disappearing as soon as you lose your job. There's a reason male cancer victims die alone in the hospital. We just don't love the same way. I'm not bitter and wouldn't consider one superior to the other, but as a man you must perform to be loved

[-] sublimemongrel 3 Points 3 months ago

The stats that I’ve seen show men leave sick wives more than vice versa although yes women leave unemployed husbands more but how does that factor into your statement?

[-] itiswr1tten 8 Points 3 months ago

Perhaps my observed anecdotes conflict with reality in one of those scenarios. I'll look it up for myself and I'm always happy to be wrong. The only thing I take issue with is people pretending that most human beings love isn't conditional, and that a woman always loves purely. I do genuinely believe men's love is on the whole significantly less conditional once achieved

[-] max_peenor 12 Points 3 months ago

Men - love -> Women - love -> Children - love -> Puppies -> love -> Men

No one is loved the way they want to be love and nobody loves the way they are loved. Well, except maybe the puppy.
When you come to terms with this, life can become a lot less distressing. The funny thing is that most mature mothers understand this when dealing with their own children. These are the same mothers that flip their shit in bloopland when we suggest it's the same between men and women.

[-] whichbladeN 1 Point 3 months ago

So when there are no children in the equation, men and women love equally?

Or do women now love the dog more?

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

No.

I saw a sticker on a car yesterday: "I'm a husky mom." I could see a man in the car with her. He didn't rate a sticker.

[-] RainySeasonInPH 5 Points 3 months ago

Where does RP put love in this equation?

Pretty close to here I would imagine.

A man can love a woman sexually and regard her as a subordinate, but for a woman to regard a man as a subordinate would make him sexually repulsive to her. Male love to a woman is protective. Female love to a man is respectful.

I've seen women who should branch swing

I believe that the current best model is actually this, which was posted here recently but didn't get the attention it deserves. It's much more explanatory than hypergamy --> branch swinging, IMO.

[-] VisiblePlan 3 Points 3 months ago

That loser has better frame. I've seen guys with gas station jobs date successful girls and hold on to them.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 2 Points 3 months ago

Love is a temporary emotional state to women. When she says she loves some “total loser”, she is highly attracted to him at the given moment. Female attraction is emotional and subject to change; a general rule about women’s attraction to “higher status males” is valid both on its generality and the fact that higher status is so subjective.

Also, “should branch swing” is a massively off-the-mark statement on the idea behind the phrase “branch swinging”, as well as moralizing, which TRP tries hard not to do:

  • “Branch swinging” means when a person lines up their next relationship to jump to, before they exit their current one. There is no reason anyone “should” branch swing; it is merely a preference of those who don’t want to be without some sort of relationship for any gap of time. What you mean to say is that those women “should” leave, which is still subjective and gets us to...

  • The moralizing is in saying some guy is a “total loser”. Even where you can objectively say that a guy hasn’t much going for him, he evidently has something about him attractive to women. It could be looks, game, money, dark triad psychological traits (“bad boy” attitude), or other things that she consciously or unconsciously wants. Who are you or anyone else to say what matters to her that she calls “love”?
[-] clavabot 7 Points 3 months ago

Question: How do you close?

I notice that I seem to be doing everything 'right' except closing, I can chat people up, leave a positive impression, joke around, etc but have no clue how to 'go for the kill', how to say 'Hey, lets have sex, back at your place' without risking a 'sexual harassment/rape' charge. [The deeper question is how can I get over my fear of being accused of sexual harassment, this is paralyzing me, from finally losing my virginity]

[-] CainPrice 13 Points 3 months ago

Touch the girl. Touch during your date. Kissing should be a mid-date activity, not a climactic close. Your date should include an intimate place you can sit, touch, and talk.

If you met the girl off of Tinder or through some other way where a hook-up was the understanding, like at a bar, after an hour or two of drinks, just ask if she wants to get out of there. That's expected. It would be weird -not- to ask unless you're not feeling it for her or it's obvious she's not feeling it for you.

If it's a real date, invite her back to your place for drinks, a movie, whatever. She knows what's up. It's expected that you'll ask. If she wants to wait, she'll tell you it's late and she's tired. She won't get all offended and accuse you of being a perverted rapist. If she comes back with you, she's down.

[-] max_peenor 4 Points 3 months ago

This is by far the hardest question for anyone here to answer, because a close is ultimately a confluence of situation, attractiveness and positioning. These are huge variables. However, let's see if I can give you a few tools for your box.

Female arousal is multi-factor. A woman can just simply touch your dick and it's off to the races. You need to feed the hamster more than that. She wants to feel your attraction to her. She wants to feel her apprehensiveness turn into desire. She wants to feel how the setting carries the mood--music/noise, surroundings, etc. You need to set this stage and put something into each of these pots--your desire, her submission (not the same as submissiveness) and environmental mood. Work all of these things and once.

As you work this, you will get feedback but most men don't recognize it. One thing to look for is they gently sway their body, almost as if offering it towards you, but pulling back to see if you engage them more. If you are into dancing (I'm not), this can be either more obvious or sending the wrong message, so be careful. Motion is always a sign, so learn to ready it. It's either telling you interest or a desire to retreat. Lack of motion is indifference and that's not a good sign; pull the sheets.

Once you are in her head, you will need to start working on her body. I've long held that the female neck and shoulders are the key to initiating their physical arousal. Start there; not on her tits. Take control of it without sperging out and straight up throttling her (though some will want to get there eventually).

The right music always helps. It depends on their tastes to some degree, but gear towards something that creates mood, rather than making the music itself a feature. When I was younger, I can't tell you how many women I closed while playing Shine On You Crazy Diamond. Lately it seems The Eden House does the trick. (Mind you, I'm older and women will hold different expectations of me.).

There is already tons of bloop-triggering content around LMR; review it all again.

Again, I've left a ton out here, but it's a taste of what has worked for me,.

[-] HumanSockPuppet 3 Points 3 months ago

Never state directly that you want to have sex. That will scare girls off.

Instead, you need to phrase your sex proposal as an indirect speech act.

Signal the safest relationship to the target (come over to my place and let's watch the jungle documentary on Netflix) while counting on your target to read between the lines and entertain the possibility of sex occurring in a private setting like your apartment.

[-] SimilarHamster 2 Points 3 months ago

As long as your isolated and you think she likes you. Touch her and see how she reacts. If she reacts positively take her hand and put it on your crotch she will get the message.

[-] MentORPHEUS 1 Point 3 months ago

Touch her and see how she reacts. If she reacts positively take her hand and put it on your crotch she will get the message.

That's... leaving out a lot of detail. Read up on push-pull. There is a mutual escalation process that can be completely nonverbal and everyone puts their own hands where they want and when they want to.

[-] FereallyRed 2 Points 3 months ago

This is slightly autistic and cringey, but the core principles are solid and since you're new and can't calibrate, the...

DiCarlo Escalation Ladder: Concise and Emphasized

Is a five year old post on how to kino (touch) and escalate so that you don't go from zero to hero, from chatting about the weather to spewing,"Come home with me so we can fuck"!

The asktrp board has a sidebar article..."how to open and close" you should read. Read the whole sidebar while you're there.

That sub is where this question belongs, btw.

[-] blackedoutfast 7 Points 3 months ago

getting pussy is nice and all, but who wants to discuss the JQ?

[-] Vikingcel 8 Points 3 months ago

Long-nose tribe say six die in holobunga. Six? Grug think that a lot. Grug give berry to long-nose tribe.

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[-] CainPrice 5 Points 3 months ago

You're too late for that. They already control the entire universe. Did you know that when the Mars probe landed, there was already a star of David carved into the surface of Mars when they got there? Next, they'll claim Mars is also their holy land and the politicians who were paid off with sacks of Jew gold are going to give Mars to them as New Israel.

Guys like you totally need to put a stop to this by meeting in your trailer park after dark and fantasizing about how cool it would be to attack old geezers in synagogues to send your message to the world about how you're on to those evil, evil Jews.

[-] Turkerthelurker 3 Points 3 months ago

Guys like you totally need to put a stop to this by meeting in your trailer park

Ah, shame tactics, nice. Don't see those used to coral men away from wrong-think very often.

[-] CainPrice -1 Point 3 months ago

It's also common to highly exaggerate the position of the opposition to make them look ridiculous. My Jewish friends gave a presentation on what to do when we find people like you in the wild at liberal camp last summer. Jews make the best Power Point presentations.

[-] Persaeus 0 Points 3 months ago

Jews are better than most at a lot of things. Preaching to the choir here - but it's a basically a conspiracy of success. Losers going lose.

[-] Vikingcel 3 Points 3 months ago

Have you read the Culture of Critique?

[-] CainPrice -1 Point 3 months ago

Nope. Is it worth a read, or is that just another random white supremacist Jew-hate book about how the Jews brought it all upon themselves by standing out as such as successful in-group and being too politically liberal for the working class white Christian males?

[-] Vikingcel 3 Points 3 months ago

It has an objective viewpoint. No antisemitic charge whatsoever. Give it a quick skim and decide for yourself if it's worth a read.

I personally haven't even read it whole as I lost interest quickly. I do believe that Jews have done and likely are doing fishy shenaningans, but I don't really care anyway.

[-] CainPrice 2 Points 3 months ago

My position has always been that a small handful of really rich people (some of them are Jewish) control a lot of shit with their money. And when you have a lot of money and control a lot of shit and want to make more money, you can use that control to affect the value of the US Dollar and various stocks. For example, Soros made it huge betting against the Dollar. He's not fighting to destroy white culture and glorify the Jews. He just likes money.

It's all a game. Trump, who is allegedly the Lord and Savior of white culture, gives lip service to his people while signing a tax bill that limits mortgage interest deduction on your taxes. The single largest deduction middle class Americans make every year. And his crazy behavior makes the US look bad internationally while also further polarizing the country internally and getting the far left to mobilize. If you were a conspiracy guy, you might think that Trump getting elected was all part of the master plan and he's one of them, too.

Likewise, antisemitism flourishes and the powers that be don't do anything about it, because it's convenient for the people who are actually in control if ignorant rednecks are blaming the Jews and plotting to shoot up random synagogues. That just further mobilizes the left and makes the whole nation easier to manipulate.

There are as many tin foil hats as you can imagine. Everything you see could be somebody's master plan.

[-] poohead5 1 Point 3 months ago

The elite Jews allow a small amount of antisemitism as an excuse to infringe on our rights, but if it becomes an actual threat to their power, it'll be shut down faster than you can say "soap and lampshades."

[-] blackedoutfast 1 Point 3 months ago

ok calm your tits Dr Noseberg

[-] redpillschool 12 Points 3 months ago

You haven't figured it out have you? TRP is successful men. We are all Jewish.

[-] blackedoutfast 8 Points 3 months ago

the last time someone claimed to be King of the Redpillers you people crucified him

[-] SimilarHamster 5 Points 3 months ago

this killed me

[-] itiswr1tten 4 Points 3 months ago

I'll play ball. How are the Jews ruining your life buddy

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

They killed his dog, the last thing his wife did for him before she died

[-] blackedoutfast 0 Points 3 months ago

they haven't done anything to me personally, and honestly i think their efforts to eliminate white ethno-nationalism by flooding western nations with shitskins are going to backfire spectacularly.

[-] MentORPHEUS 3 Points 3 months ago

It's off topic for the main sub. Some people are interested in the topic, others dismiss it. Because TRP and the JQ are considered "forbidden topics" there tends to come some "crank magnetism" where people interested in one topic find their way to the other despite no direct connection between the topics.

[-] RedHeimdall 3 Points 3 months ago

This topic is forbidden goyim.

[-] blackedoutfast 2 Points 3 months ago

oy vey! the holocoasters and masturbation machines were real in my mind

[-] poohead5 2 Points 3 months ago

I've been told that a lot of EC's and mods here are jewish. That's probably where the "enjoy the decline, be a degenerate" shit comes from. I have no proof, just a hunch.

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[-] sublimemongrel 6 Points 3 months ago

u/redpillcoach why did you dismiss your civil case against reddit or if not, what happened there?

[-] buartha 3 Points 3 months ago

Best question.

[-] redpillschool 3 Points 3 months ago

I haven't heard about this, what's the scoop?

[-] sublimemongrel 3 Points 3 months ago

Ok sorry for repeatedly replying to you but I got another submission removed message. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I assume you cannot see the other two replies I made because they were removed.

Essentially, u/redpillcoach made a post on MRP (which I tried to link here just now) about suing reddit for "discrimination" based on his Reddit advertisement being rejected. In his merp post he linked a copy of his complaint. Based on the public docket of the case, I think he filed it and then voluntarily dismissed it, I don't even think he served Reddit, and I wanted to confirm that was the case or find out what happened if not.

I tried to link you the MRP post and the michigan state court's online docket portal but apparently linking those is why my "submission" keeps getting removed. Sorry, if you tell me how to link those here appropriately, I will, or PM me and I can send them to you if you want to see the original post which prompted my question.

Edit: Here is the post (I think, I don't know how to archive so hopefully that works)

[-] RedPillCoach 9 Points 3 months ago

Yes, I filed a case alleging that Reddit committed political and gender discrimination in refusing to do business with me or accepting my advertising money.

Reddit house counsel contacted me and a discussion ensued. Essentially they argued Reddit had the right to do business with whoever they wanted and to not do business with whoever they wanted. Remember, my case was not about "public use" but about using the forum for advertising. So I had not been Quarantined or Banned and I was arguing that they literally would not take my money and the only possible explanation was gender and/or political discrimination.

Reddit house counsel then offered to run my advertisement so long as I used another user name to run it. He argued that permitting "Red Pill Coach" to advertise under that name was a tacit endorsement and his client was not required to do that.

I essentially agreed with him that companies also have the right of free association and agreed to run the add under another name. They agreed to credit my account for the amount I spent filing the lawsuit (effectively giving me my costs on the case).

Once they agreed to run my ad even though under another name, my discrimination argument went away along with the case.

[-] sublimemongrel 2 Points 3 months ago

So in the 2.5 months this case was filed you actually did serve Reddit, had this negotiation with in house counsel and they credited you $175.00 in your reddit advertising account? What name did you end up using can you share that? I feel like the advertisements I see run under the name of the product all the time.

[-] redpillschool 5 Points 3 months ago

Thanks. (it was removed because of inter-reddit links). But I got the gist from your post thank you.

[-] sublimemongrel 2 Points 3 months ago

You can’t link reddit posts here? It was from the MRP subreddit.

[-] redpillschool 9 Points 3 months ago

We're hyper vigilant not to allow inter-reddit links (even to ourselves or friendly subs). Don't want to give the admin any reasons to blame us for brigading (even if they're lying about it).

[-] sublimemongrel 2 Points 3 months ago

Oh ok I wish he’d come answer me lol

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[-] TheRedPike 3 Points 3 months ago

Put links through archive.is and repost. Automod nukes anything with hotlinks to reddit, even to our own subs.

[-] sublimemongrel 1 Point 3 months ago

Ok I’ll try that sorry I didn’t know

[-] TheRedPike 2 Points 3 months ago

automod is a retard. There is no way for us to keep him in a cage--it's all or nothing.

[-] ChrimsonChin988 1 Point 3 months ago

Because it will just costs him effort and money and he will gain... nothing?

[-] sublimemongrel 1 Point 3 months ago

And why would you file the case at all if that's your belief? He's a lawyer, it was HIS effort and money to file it to begin with.

[-] blackrzyz 6 Points 3 months ago

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with TRP's most uncontroversial advice: lift and get big.

That's not to say you shouldn't lift, but the emphasis definitely shouldn't be on size. I've seen many a girl fawn over the physique of a ripped and skinny guy, while completely ignoring the jacked guys with a little too much extra bodyfat. Having been in the latter category, I can say my results with women have improved a lot more after losing that chub than after packing on the muscle.

For those of you who would say lift for yourself, I agree, which is why I have been lifting for many years. But unless your goal is to compete in bodybuilding or powerlifting, I'd argue you're a lot better off aiming for athleticism and health than raw numbers. I'm due for a hernia operation not too long from now, which research shows is correlated with heavy lifting.

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[-] Crimson_Medicinal 26 Points 3 months ago

You're not disagreeing with anything, that's exactly what we say. Telling someone to "lift" doesn't mean you should get on PEDs and devote your life to lifting. It means look better. Become top 10%. That's it. We're not out here giving ourselves hernias.

[-] TheStoicCrane 1 Point 3 months ago

Nothing wrong devoting your life to lifting if you enjoy it. Makes all the fringe benefis that much easier to acquire.

[-] KeffirLime 3 Points 3 months ago

Size is a minuscule aspect of gaming women, there's several other factors that need to align with it in order to be successful.

It's a great intitial indicator of strong masculinity to both women and other men. This can either be squandered or converted.

In my experience, most really big guys lIft out of some form of insecurity, which is not exactly the best approach to gaming women. Having said that, I've seen a lot of big guys with good looking women.

[-] 321PK 1 Point 3 months ago

Ya imma say lifting is def one of the things they get totally right.

[-] rus9384 6 Points 3 months ago

What original is there in TRP?

Maybe that's simpy local beliefs, but in my area around half of guys have similar views on how to deal with women, evem though they never heard about TRP. Damn, that attitude is even older than TRP itself, it comes at least as early as from the last decade.

Most advices, theory and so on is familiar to me. I heard it back from late 00's/early 10's. This also puts in doubt my view on TRP as something unpopular in society. But maybe things are different in the US or some other countries?

[-] EkMard 6 Points 3 months ago

The place you come from is an outlier. I see people in the Americas, much of Europe, South Asia and elsewhere, and the majority of males do not understand it. The vast majority are blue-pilled. Red Pill truth and advice is considered misogynistic in most of the aforementioned places.

[-] krowitz 3 Points 3 months ago

You are right. If there's anything, TRP is an attempt to explain the attitudes and views you describe. Some people do not default to your local beliefs and they can benefit from this.

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If most advices and theory and so on is familiar to you, this place is where you can have a deeper understanding than that familiarity.

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[-] max_peenor 2 Points 3 months ago

Answered this elsewhere, so you get the abbreviated version. Everyone knows that eating to excess will make you unhealthy and unattractive fat, yet tons of people still do it.

[-] EqualitysA2WayStreet 1 Point 3 months ago

If it is not unpopular and th ewidely accepted stance, why is a community of 300,000 on a site with 100s of millions of user attracting enough attention to be quanrantined? Food for thought

[-] rus9384 1 Point 3 months ago

Ahem, I thought reddit has only slightly more than 20m of people. Actually I saw this sub only accidentally around a half year ago, and it's not easy to find it, if you don't look for it specifically. When you google "how to deal with women" and similar stuff, TRP is not going to be shown there. But google returns a bunch of other stuff, that on many points is similar to TRP guides.

Why quarantined? I don't know. I'm not sure it is due to a theory. I'm guessing someone had a hard time reading stories with guys being assholes to girls. Most of stories are not bad, sure. But if there was a popular (I think at least 100k subscribers) sub where girls posted something like "Look how I cuckolded this LOSER!" it could also be quarantined. Maybe.

[-] EqualitysA2WayStreet 2 Points 3 months ago

Was drawing on this for the numbers. And there are adultery or cheating subreddits (can't be bothered to visit them at work) that allows for that kinda stuff. It's only recently that we've come to share notes on an open, popular forum like this. And it irks them. And we aren't being assholes any more than a girl allows us to be. Having sex and not wanting a relationship is perfectly ethical. Just like being in a relationship and not wanting to have sex is.

[-] rus9384 1 Point 3 months ago

Just like there are 15 times more readers of reddit than actually registered users, I expect TRP having more than 300k unique visitors.

Not arguing with your last point. I myself like sex with no relationships. Yet, that's not the whole point of TRP community.

The thing is that some people are more predisposed to like sex with random/more people and some are less. You can google 'sociosexual orientation' for that. And many members of TRP community treat women like they all are on the extreme point of the scale. The community got overwhelmed by ignorant people taking anything for granted and that's the case.

[-] EqualitysA2WayStreet 1 Point 3 months ago

Was drawing on this for the numbers. And there is r/adultery or r/cheating (can't be bothered to visit them at work) that allows for that kinda stuff. It's only recently that we've come to share notes on an open, popular forum like this. And it irks them. And we aren't being assholes any more than a girl allows us to be. Having sex and not wanting a relationship is perfectly ethical. Just like being in a relationship and not wanting to have sex is.

[-] Littleknownfacts 6 Points 3 months ago

How many of you are typing one handed right now so you can use the other hand to pleasure yourself while practicing your shit test dodges on us?

[-] redpillschool 38 Points 3 months ago

Voice-to-text baby, I need both hands. ;)

[-] FereallyRed 18 Points 3 months ago

Agreed and Amplified.

[-] Littleknownfacts 8 Points 3 months ago

Voice-to-text baby, I need both hands. ;)

Agree and amplify. 4/10 - did make me exhale through my nose sharply.

[-] SeamusAwl 6 Points 3 months ago

She just wants to be the center of the TRP bukake party.

[-] itiswr1tten 18 Points 3 months ago

I use other human beings to masturbate, thank you very much.

[-] Whisper 13 Points 3 months ago

The girl crouching under my desk is supplying extra hands so I can type properly. Unfortunately, her sister won't fit... I need a bigger desk.

[-] Littleknownfacts -1 Point 3 months ago

The girl crouching under my desk is supplying extra hands so I can type properly. Unfortunately, her sister won't fit... I need a bigger desk.

-1/5 - thoroughly skeeved out.

[-] Whisper 7 Points 3 months ago

Oh, I don't think there's a desk out there that could fit 5.

[-] KeffirLime 10 Points 3 months ago

Got the candles lit, with some Barry White

[-] Littleknownfacts 5 Points 3 months ago

Got the candles lit, with some Barry White

Also agree and amplify, 2/10 - not as funny as redpillschool.

[-] KeffirLime 13 Points 3 months ago

You've clearly never jacked off to Barry White then

[-] MentORPHEUS 8 Points 3 months ago

Just as it's a common rookie mistake for certain guys to assume RPW are deferential and submissive to any man, not just their Captain, it's not safe to assume that we are attracted to every woman who passes by.

[-] Littleknownfacts 1 Point 3 months ago

Negging. 4/10 because at least you didn't follow the herd. Congrats on not being the lowest common denominator.

[-] MentORPHEUS 1 Point 3 months ago

Negging. 4/10

Funny, because negging comes rarely in my repertoire of behaviors or advice, hence the third person phrasing. Your question spawned an interesting subthread, so thanks.

[-] redhawkes 5 Points 3 months ago

About tree fiddy

[-] Self-honest 3 Points 3 months ago

Sounds like somebody's got one hand double clicking the mouse while her other hand is triple clicking refresh on these comments. Get your mind out of the gutter you perv.

[-] Littleknownfacts 4 Points 3 months ago

Sounds like somebody's got one hand double clicking the mouse while her other hand is triple clicking refresh on these comments. Get your mind out of the gutter you perv.

Nah man, fancy new technology allows me to be notified on my device when someone comments. No need to pound refresh anymore.

[-] Self-honest 6 Points 3 months ago

fancy new technology

Makes sense. Anticipation is key. Hope you've got it set to vibrate.

[-] RedForEducation 2 Points 3 months ago

That would be the people in your after party thread high giving each other over their superior intellect and debate, well honed from years on PPD.

[-] VeryTalentedCheff 1 Point 3 months ago

Holy fuck a shrewd woman who knows how to lash out. Gonna wear my spandex real quick, whip me mommy.

[-] Chadster113 6 Points 3 months ago

How are most of the top level authors/mods here very well read and articulate and also write very well? This question has always intrigued me

[-] redpillschool 12 Points 3 months ago

I think the subject matter itself attracts higher intelligence people than average. Beyond that, the way to become well read is.. well.. read!

Writing is a skill that you get better at when you practice. Reading helps with vocabulary.

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[-] redpillcad 7 Points 3 months ago

Why cant you knuckledraggers write poorly like I wish you did????!

[-] Chadster113 3 Points 3 months ago

Naw I wasn't trying to give you a back handed comment. Just wondering how I could become as well read as y'all.

[-] RedForEducation 2 Points 3 months ago

Practice. Everyone writes a lot on here, and generally improves at it

[-] the_strat 1 Point 3 months ago

Well, you could read.

[-] redpillcad 1 Point 3 months ago

Would you have asked the same question from a pudgy accountant who played she is the boss! with his wife?

[-] itiswr1tten 5 Points 3 months ago

In order to fuck lots of women, you have to be some shade of smart, clever, educated, funny, etc. These are naturally correlated with the general pursuit of knowledge. Curious and inquisitive tend to want to become the best at whatever it is they're pursuing at the moment.

For ECs, were United by our shared core read beliefs, and the desire to share and articulate those beliefs with an audience.

[-] MentORPHEUS 5 Points 3 months ago

People are nominated for EC status because they have demonstrated competence at communicating RP principles. No great mystery here.

[-] party_dragon 4 Points 3 months ago

outcome bias.

articulate people that like to read and write are more likely to become top authors.

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

My writing for top posts drive people nuts, but it is a bit on purpose. I will admit it is a bit choppy.

As for my comments, they tend to me very focused and right to the point. Having been in senior management roles for a very long time, you quickly learn it as an effective means of communication. So it's just how I'm wired to communicate this stuff. Luckily, TRP has room for plenty of styles of communication.

[-] CainPrice 3 Points 3 months ago

Most of the TRP bigwigs are graduate-level educated guys in their 30s who have read and posted things on the internet in some capacity for a couple of decades, who speak English as their first language.

[-] FieldLine 2 Points 3 months ago

I wish I was as articulate as some of the top dogs here.

[-] [deleted] 6 Points 3 months ago

I'm stuck and need some serious help. Me m26 recently landed a 6 figure job. Gf 33 earns two times more than me. Been together over a year. I know I have fucked up alot by committing how do I get out. Help!! ALL we do is argue and fight we went on a holiday it was the most miserable time of my life.

[-] AllahHatesFags 18 Points 3 months ago

You are 26 and making 6-figures? What in the hell are you doing dating a bitchy, post-wall career hag? Drop the bitch and go find some younger pussy!

[-] dokoya 12 Points 3 months ago

I have fucked up alot by committing how do I get out.

Unfuck yourself and just leave. No explanations. Nothing. Just leave

[-] EqualitysA2WayStreet 11 Points 3 months ago

Tell her you're done, wtf are you waiting for? The internet people to come and do it for you?

[-] max_peenor 11 Points 3 months ago

You aren't even married and this is how it is. Do her a favor and get out. She wants someone to steady her world as she confronts her looming fertility crisis.

[-] grundlecrunch 4 Points 3 months ago

Be a man and make an objective assessment of the situation, and make a decision accordingly. You have TONS of options just given what you’ve said. Don’t waste them.

[-] axletruss 6 Points 3 months ago

How do you deal with your female superiors in professional setting? Doesn't submitting before a woman compromises your redpill Alphadom?

[-] nicethingyoucanthave 16 Points 3 months ago

This question doesn't even need to be about women as bosses. Consider this: the majority of women are attracted to men whose behavior could be summarized as "leadership." I mean, all those masculine qualities like strength, confidence, assertiveness, that's what all that is.

So if I'm trying to put the moves on a girl, that's the way I act.

But if I'm on a team at work, some of that shit just isn't appropriate. Sometimes, the project leader makes a decision and I need to go with it even if I disagree.

Now, if you have this shallow understanding of TRP where you think it's like a religion and you imagine that I can't ever turn off my assertiveness and take the role of a follower or else ...what, exactly? Or else I'm sinning against TRP and I don't go to TRP heaven??

Come on. I behave in ways that are appropriate to the situation. This isn't that difficult.

[-] MentORPHEUS 11 Points 3 months ago

Doesn't submitting before a woman compromises your redpill Alphadom?

No more so than submitting before a traffic cop who has pulled you over does. Life is full of compromises and times when it's strategic to compartmentalize.

Perhaps you're seeing dominant and submissive as the only modes of interaction. Consider the dimension of assertiveness.

[-] PosnerRocks 6 Points 3 months ago

No issue with female superiors. There is just a different set of rules for how to deal with them than you would a male superior. Men and women communicate different and have different priorities. Understanding that and operating within those guidelines is key.

Otherwise, I have a job to do. Why would I waste time bitching about the gender of my boss?

[-] WarViper1337 3 Points 3 months ago

I work for a large corporation so I have female bosses. It doesn't change my behavior as far as my job goes. I will always perform it to the best of my ability. Obviously I am careful with my interactions so I don't put myself into a position where I would become a #metoo statistic.

[-] Whisper 3 Points 3 months ago

I work in an field where we actually get shit done, so I've never reported to a woman in my life.

[-] redpillcad 2 Points 3 months ago

No

[-] RedPillLawyerGuy 2 Points 3 months ago

Redpill is, at its heart, a sexual strategy -- an acceptance that in the world of romance and sex, women and men have biological tendencies that have to be acknowledged. In a professional setting, where everyone is acting professionally, this may not even apply. I've had women bosses, and women employees, and as long as everyone does their jobs and is civil to each other, everything is fine.

[-] nodepostgres 2 Points 3 months ago

I'm curious why you would think this doesn't align with TRP. The general rule is "don't shit where you eat", hence TRP as a sexual strategy is not relevant in the work place.

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I'm paid to do a job and I do it to the best of my ability. I don't have any issue with female superiors. I do have an issue with incompetent superiors, but gender isn't relevant here.

[-] Isbjornsolo 2 Points 3 months ago

Do your job to the best of your ability & learn as much as you can. You're in a professional arena, so behave like a professional.

You don't "submit" to your boss, as you're being paid to do a job.

N.B. Don't try and fuck your work colleagues, it will not end well.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Same as anywhere. Professionally, with understanding that they are more status than results focused at times.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Being a proper leader requires being a proper follower when appropriate.

Somewhat related, one of the best gifts you can give someone high in the hierarchy is human connection on a personal level without wanting anything in return. They don’t get treated like people after a certain point.

[-] MisplacedSanityP 1 Point 3 months ago

Female superiors? There stop being female superiors very quickly in most companies. Business is ruled by men.

[-] beachredwhine 5 Points 3 months ago

Do you guys hate the whiny helpless incel brigade as much as the rest of us?

[-] FieldLine 12 Points 3 months ago

I don't hate them. I feel sorry for them.

[-] beachredwhine 1 Point 3 months ago

Happy cake day

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

Your answer

EDIT: whoopsie, fat fingered SAVE.

Anyway, I don't hate anyone. As I pointed out earlier today, there are two sorts of incels we so. Those that want to fix themselves and they are welcome. Then there are those that want to burn the world down because they think the world hates them. I really don't like that second crew around here.

[-] itiswr1tten 3 Points 3 months ago

I generally don't try to engage anymore because in my experimentation my n count was high enough to conclude they don't want to try.

I don't hate them though. Fixing their problem would be pretty simple for most of them. The emotion I feel is pity

[-] DespisedByWomen 1 Point 3 months ago

What's our problem and what's the simple fix

[-] itiswr1tten 2 Points 3 months ago

Not you. You're hopeless

[-] DespisedByWomen 1 Point 3 months ago

Ah so big talk and no follow through, what else is new with you RP guys lmao

[-] Ill_Will7 1 Point 3 months ago

Actually experiment with what you read. See if approaching women and getting rejected leads you quicker to getting pussy or quicker to going back to being an incel

[-] Vikingcel 1 Point 3 months ago

my n count was high enough to conclude they don't want to try.

Wat

Have you been fucking incels or something?

[-] Whisper 2 Points 3 months ago

I don't hate anyone.

Help-resistant complainers can, however, be somewhat annoying.

[-] FereallyRed 1 Point 3 months ago

I don't think about them at all.

[-] RedForEducation 2 Points 3 months ago

Fairly strong emotion to have over online words.

[-] OrdinaryWhiteGuy 5 Points 3 months ago

What're y'all doing for valentines day? Do you ever buy gifts for your partner(s)?

[-] nicethingyoucanthave 19 Points 3 months ago

Do you ever buy gifts for your partner

My advice, if this were a question in askTRP, would be that thoughtful gifts outside of V-day are worth substantially more than any gift given on the day. I would say go ahead and get flowers for you girl, go ahead and cook a nice romantic meal, but stay away from anything more cliche than that, because it's going to seem like you're just doing your duty.

By contrast, even really small gifts outside of Valentine's Day will have a much more significant impact. And I'm not necessarily talking about things you buy with money. I'm talking about things that would have a story behind them. The story you tell the girl about why you picked the thing up is more important than the thing itself, and significantly more than the price.

[-] krowitz 14 Points 3 months ago

Me and my LTR walk around to watch other couples fight.

[-] Persaeus 3 Points 3 months ago

solid play

[-] redpillschool 11 Points 3 months ago

I get flowers and make dinner for my LTR.

[-] Vikingcel 11 Points 3 months ago

Damn MISOGENIOST

[-] max_peenor 7 Points 3 months ago

What're y'all doing for valentines day?

I do stuff that makes loud noises on Vagina day.

Do you ever buy gifts for your partner(s)?

I bought an entire life for Legal Cohabiting Female. It think that's enough. In fairness, I was never one for prescription gift giving and am typically generous outside of specific dates. However I learned early on that material romanic gestures didn't actually enhancing mating opportunities and how I was treated in return.

[-] EkMard 7 Points 3 months ago

I am in a half-Sharia state. No thanks.

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[-] CainPrice 6 Points 3 months ago

Hotel with a kickass bar, dinner reservations, and a hallmark card.

It's been over a year, though, with sex 3-4 times a week on the average, so she's earned it. My first gift to her was a pack of gum.

[-] 4thAndLong 6 Points 3 months ago

No gifts except Chrismas because I fucking love Christmas. For Valentines I'm making us dinner then giving her some good dick.

[-] FereallyRed 3 Points 3 months ago

Experiences, small gifts.

[-] itiswr1tten 3 Points 3 months ago

I'm with my family but bringing my main to meet her. Have a room at a 5 star hotel and a few champagne surprises waiting for her.

[-] SeamusAwl 3 Points 3 months ago

No. She gets my time and attention.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

I have kid responsibilities so I’m sitting this one out.

I was looking for a gal to go out with and do fake-proposals in public. Get free drinks. Wanted to mix it up with some rejections and/or drama as well. Sounds like a great time.

[-] KeffirLime 1 Point 3 months ago

Took her overseas this year

[-] NextBad 1 Point 3 months ago

My white believes it's a commercial holiday , but I do use romance from time to time , she really enjoys it

[-] atticusfinch1973 1 Point 3 months ago

I bought her socks and a card, plus a card from my kids. I buy her gifts all the time if I think she needs something or wants to feel better.

[-] MentORPHEUS 1 Point 3 months ago

Dinner in with the main GF. Valentine's night, like NYE and Mother's/Father's day brunch, is restaurant amateur night.

Yes I buy gifts, but throughout the year, not just for V-day. There's an economy of scale possible too. I've honed a system of divvying up a $5 mixed bouquet 5 ways. At $1 and 20 seconds prep time per woman, it's one of the most cost effective tokens of affection money can buy. Even though I make good money, no sense pissing away good money on ephemerals. I'd rather splurge on shared experiences.

[-] ChrimsonChin988 1 Point 3 months ago

I'll buy her a rose and take her out to dinner then give her really good dick. Also yes I bought a Christmas gift and something for her birthday. Not expensive. She buys me more expensive shit.

Also, I once bought her a random present (perfume) because I was in an exceptionally good and generous mood.

[-] mortsdans 5 Points 3 months ago

My only issue with TRP is placing sexual strategy above overall life strategy. I've come to believe that a mans achievements aren't only measured by where he sticks his wiener. If you're tryin to get laid though TRP is spot on.

[-] whatsthisgarg 18 Points 3 months ago

My only issue with TRP is placing sexual strategy above overall life strategy.

Where does it say that? Where THE FUCK does it say that?

[-] MentORPHEUS 13 Points 3 months ago

My only issue with TRP is placing sexual strategy above overall life strategy.

That's a misunderstanding or straw argument. We have a very strong position on this.

Pussy is a lagging indicator of success.

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[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

This ideology is for the losers, technically. Self-improvement became the MO on TRO once it became evident that 95% of treaders were too self-loathing and hamstrung to have their basic life foundations as bedrock.

Hard to get laid if you’re a trainwreck, unless you’re a sexy trainwreck, but that’s a long post about BPD that I’ll save for later.

[-] CainPrice 8 Points 3 months ago

TRP started out as a place where average, frustrated guys who were unsuccessful with sex, relationships, and women ended up.

These were typically guys who followed the normal, accepted, "successful life" path. Be nice and respectful to women, go to college, get a degree in a field where there's opportunity, get a job, a house, save money, keep being nice and respectful to women, and if you follow that path, eventually you'll meet the woman for you and get married and have kids and have a happy wife and family.

TRP started out with guys who were already "successful" at life, but couldn't get women because they were doing the relationship, sex, dating game all wrong.

[-] FereallyRed 5 Points 3 months ago

Rule Zero: Stay On Topic

TRP's mission is to discuss men's identity, sexual strategy, and options in the context of our current global culture for the benefit of men. Anyone who does not share that goal will be banned the instant we detect them. We are not interested in debating or defending our experiences to those who disagree with the red pill, nor do we want to clog up our threads defending the morality of our choices.

It's not only about sexual strategy. But to most here a huge life strategy/goal at this point in their life is to obtain vaginas. So that's what most of the posts are.

Strangely enough, the tools that attract women also make you more attractive at life.

[-] MisplacedSanityP 4 Points 3 months ago

You know maslow's hierarchy of needs? It's a well accepted theory in psychology that I whole-heartedly believe in. At the bottom of the pyramid is physiological needs. The obvious ones are food, water, sleep, and breathing. A less obvious one is sex. Sex is a basic requirement to have any sort of fulfillment or happiness(for most people). So what do you do when you're at 0? When you can't even fuck a fat chick? Should that guy focus on overall life strategy when he can't even fill a basic physiological need? Now will you die without sex? No. Will you be miserable? Yes. Every man should be aiming for minimum the ability to get laid. The funny thing is, everything that makes you high value in the sexual marketplace(and therefore making you more likely to get laid) also leads to overall improvement in life. Is TRP overly focus on getting laid? Yes. Is that a bad thing? Not at all.

[-] mortsdans 1 Point 3 months ago

I pretty much agree with 99 percent of that. Almost everything you do to get laid is gonna help you in other aspects of life. But if you're making 60k a year you might not want to buy a brand new corvette, even if it does help you get laid.

[-] MisplacedSanityP 2 Points 3 months ago

No one is claiming you should do something like that though. Everyone is claiming you should work hard to actually be a high value man, not try to fake it(unless you're just starting off then fake it till you make it). That's what PUA teaches you, now how to be high value but how to come across as high value.

[-] mortsdans 1 Point 3 months ago

Maybe I misunderstood then

[-] Skyhawk_And_Skyhead 2 Points 3 months ago

Let's say you want to be an astronaut. So you get good grades, learn to code, stay in shape, get your PhD in astrophysics and also, you didnt get accepted into NASA. You still have a marketable degree, math and computer skills, and you're in shape.

[-] DespisedByWomen 5 Points 3 months ago

What's the lowest value man TRP can help? I'm pretty similar to an average beta but I'm also Indian in America so shits rough.

I'm going on a cruise in August and my main goal is to get laid while I'm on it, is this achievable? Can someone learn enough game in 6 months to do this? I have plenty of time and money, I just need direction.

Where do I start?

[-] PosnerRocks 9 Points 3 months ago

Read the sidebar. Start with the gym. Six months is plenty of time to get into shape assuming you aren't obese.

Indians in America have a reputation for being creepy, clingy, and not picking up on "back-off" signals. You're going to need to focus on making sure you cultivate a relaxed take it or leave it attitude when it comes to women. If you have an accent or poor vocab, work on it. I don't know many American women that are into it so it is an uphill battle. Probably the best start is with Indian women who will already be receptive.

Finally, in my experience, cruise ships are awful places to pick up women. If they are there, they are with someone, and, if they aren't, they are probably with their parents.

Good luck and don't get discouraged.

[-] DespisedByWomen 3 Points 3 months ago

Yeah I've already been lifting for a while and I don't have an accent since I was born here.

[-] PosnerRocks 3 Points 3 months ago

Perfect. 6 months is plenty of time to learn some game. Best start is just chatting up women without any attachment to their reaction to you and building confidence. It can be a numbers game and learning to read the signals that someone is into you before escalating. Examples: Laughing at your bad jokes or touching your arm is a good sign. When someone says something funny, if they look to see how you react first, they are into you.

Go on a couple dates, attempt to apply what you learn here, then come back and post an update. People here are usually pretty receptive to letting you know where you fucked up and how to improve.

[-] MentORPHEUS 3 Points 3 months ago

Finally, in my experience, cruise ships are awful places to pick up women.

No, there are singles oriented segments of the Cruise business. A regular cruise is a good way to get things like Norovirus; a deliberately promiscuous cruise ship adds STDs to that concern. Not my taste, and not a guarantee that a given guy (with no game or experience) will be able to get laid on board.

[-] Kurush559 1 Point 3 months ago

Got norovirus from a girl once. Never again.

[-] antariusz 5 Points 3 months ago

Red pill advice can work for literally any man. Even if you go from sex once a year to sex once a month, that’s should still be considered an improvement.

That said, I’m at 250+ different women, and I’ve been on 6 cruises, not gotten laid once, it’s a terrible environment for pickup.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

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[-] antariusz 2 Points 3 months ago

Well in a way you’re right, all my lays have been in just the past decade. I never even went on a date until I was 25.

The internet really did make things a lot easier.

To be completely transparent, only on 2 of those cruises did I go solo, not that it would stop me completely being on a cruise with a GF, but obviously I was only “actively” gaming on 2 separate occasions. I do routinely get a lot more female attention when I’m with another woman though. Preselection is a real thing.

Things I learned. Play to your strengths, I’m not tall, or a good dancer, or even that athletic or good looking, clubs are not the best for me. You gotta find what works for you. For me, it’s the fact that I make 170k a year and live in Ohio. I talk to trailer park girls, waitresses, and gas station clerks that imagine themselves living a better life. I don’t put them on a pedestal because I know that they aren’t special and there are dozens of girls that I could sleep with this year alone that also want a piece of me. They all see themselves driving a Porsche to soccer practice (eventually), but none of them will ever actually see that. People on this subreddit love to shit all over letting your money work for you, but Christian Grey wasn’t a coal miner. So I fill in the role of the daddy they never had growing up.

But you gotta use what works for you.

[-] nicethingyoucanthave 5 Points 3 months ago

Everyone can be helped, in the sense that everyone can increase their odds of success. However, nobody can ever get their odd up to 100% - not even the most top-tier alpha rock star has a 100% success rate.

A guy who starts out with a very low chance of success can be helped too. Maybe he starts out in a situation where he'd have to approach 500 women before he'd find one who liked him. Chances are, that guy is going to quit long before 500 though, because if you have no fucking clue what's going on - why you're failing, it'd be very hard to continue, right?

If that guy is really disciplined and works really hard, then maybe he gets his odds up from 1:500 to 1:400. That'd be help for that guy.

my main goal is to get laid while I'm on it

I hope you get it done. Do you have a wing man that you can work with during these six months? A lot of times, we can't see the shit we're doing wrong, but it's very clear to someone watching us.

[-] nefariousdestiny 4 Points 3 months ago

You should start by realizing that just because you're Indian in America doesn't mean you're disadvantaged in any way whatsoever. If you're not doing well, it's entirely in you, not your "value."

[-] NightFire45 2 Points 3 months ago

Be one with rejection and you'll do well.

[-] DespisedByWomen 1 Point 3 months ago

Fuck outta here with this Mr. Miyagi one line bullshit

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

The thing about Zen Koans is that they sound cryptic, trite, or inane, without the proper wisdom. But once you have the understanding, the encapsulating statement makes all the sense.

He's right – be one with rejection and you'll do well. It's obvious that you have an issue with rejection. Just look at your handle. If you didn't feel you were despised by women, if you didn't project that onto every woman you see as you walk down the street – what could you accomplish? How could you ever cold open if your brain presumes rejection?

If you had an eight-inch cock, you could approach every woman with the little smile of "I know something you don't know." But since you likely don't have that, how do you achieve that frame of mind?

Until then, you must be one with rejection.

[-] DespisedByWomen 1 Point 3 months ago

I actually do have a big cock but big cocks dont mean shit if women dont want to see it.

[-] [deleted] 4 Points 3 months ago

Then until you figure out the real problem, you must be one with rejection.

Even monks can't meditate easily for long periods without falling asleep, so a facilitator hits them with a stick when they start to drowse.
How many men drowse their whole life?
When we hit you with the stick, you should be thankful.

There are tips and tricks we can give you, and they're all in the sidebar. But your issue seems to be a mirror-issue. You can't see yourself for your benefits, and you don't know how to project them onto women. You're projecting your perceived faults, and premeditating your own rejection.

In the context of a life, waking up takes a long time.

[-] NightFire45 2 Points 3 months ago

Great response. An NFL player doesn't sit in the film room all day and then try to lose on Sunday. You need to practice, practice, practice because without practice the sidebar is useless. With practice will come failure and learning and then success.

[-] meomeowmeoww 1 Point 3 months ago

prove it

[-] RedForEducation 2 Points 3 months ago

The one who can shed his ego and learn.

Doll fucking incels don't want to win, they want to sulk

[-] Heinous_White_Man 2 Points 3 months ago

There is a lot you can do in 6 months. First, read the sidebar. Second, the best thing you can do is to get in some sort of shape. If you've never lifted before, 6 months will give you decent beginner gains if you work hard.

I will also give this advice: don't worry about trying to lay model-tier girls. Of course, you should aim high once in awhile, but there is no shame in going after a 6-7 that you find attractive rather than a 9, especially if you are new to this. If you're feeling good, go after those 9s, otherwise practice on the 7s on the cruise.

[-] DespisedByWomen 3 Points 3 months ago

I've already been lifting for a few months, just gotta read the sidebar.

I dont need 9's, I just want girls that are not obese.

[-] Heinous_White_Man 3 Points 3 months ago

Then keep going on the lifting, obviously. Like I said, read the sidebar, and I would also begin practicing talking to women before the cruise. Don't go in with the intention of sex, making out, or even a number. Set a simple goal and just do it; "I will keep this conversation going for five minutes" for example.

Doesn't matter how big your muscles are if you have shit game. Talk to one woman a day, doesn't matter where, simply to practice before the cruise.

[-] Mojiitoo 1 Point 3 months ago

Just start. Basic sidebar. You will not get laid on that cruiseship with this current mentality. Read the sidebar and top all time posts well and you'll realise that your mentality should be more like I dont care what happends on that cruise, Ima have fun. Abundance mentality. Plenty of fish in the sea (literally lol) You definitely dont need a cruise to get laid.

If youre a virgin, consider going to a prostitute? Being a virgin can be a huge blockade but after that the mental barrier is way lower to have sex. Just taking the edge off.

[-] poohead5 1 Point 3 months ago

Go back to India and get an Indian chick.

[-] SimilarHamster -1 Point 3 months ago

You start with Indian girls

[-] DespisedByWomen 3 Points 3 months ago

Good luck trying to get an Indian girl in America if you're not a white guy

[-] SimilarHamster 1 Point 3 months ago

Still that's where you start

[-] [deleted] 5 Points 3 months ago

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[-] Selfishaltruist181 17 Points 3 months ago

You kinda answer your own question there, yes if you can get a rich girl who has higher social status to marry you then go for it, but its abit of a fallacy. Why would a woman with higher social status who's rich want to marry you? Sleep with you sure, but why would she commit? TRP teaches about the hypergamy nature of woman, or to put it shortly, the reason why woman marry up and never down.

[-] empatheticapathetic 4 Points 3 months ago

Heard of Jeremy Meeks? When a woman is so high up and there is only so much option for richer guys, she may as well lure in someone she thinks is a peak alpha.

Would be interested in someone else’s opinion on this idea.

[-] Selfishaltruist181 3 Points 3 months ago

Only problem with this is she got my dad when she was 18 not 40.

[-] max_peenor 1 Point 3 months ago

TRP preaches that a man should never be married

Most of us say it is a very bad idea in this day and age. However your own personal calculus of the situation may come to a different conclusion. Understand that if we were able to rewind to what Whisper calls Marriage 1.0, a very large percentage of our readership would get on board with that. Alas, you can't rewind.

[-] DaftOdyssey 4 Points 3 months ago

How can I differentiate between the reasons of why I'm fucking women: is it because I want to or is it to gain personal validation? And if it's the latter, is it normal/healthy to gain some personal validation?

[-] PosnerRocks 9 Points 3 months ago

If you value your self-worth by the women you fuck, it is not healthy. Strength and self-confidence should come from your intrinsic value and not be dependent upon the women you are sleeping with.

[-] nicethingyoucanthave 3 Points 3 months ago

If you value your self-worth by the women you fuck, it is not healthy.

I agree. Thinking that way is having an external locus of control - it's dangerous, because we're all going to fail or fuck up occasionally, and you can't let that bring you down. This is the mistake that famous people make. They're flying high thinking everyone loves them, but when they crash, they crash hard, because their entire self worth was in other people's opinions.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

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[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

If someone takes it away, do you have a temper tantrum?

Fucking slam dunk.

[-] FereallyRed 2 Points 3 months ago

When you aren't successful, women become a leading indicator of success in your mind. All kinds of validation tied up in the hunt, the sex, the neediness.

When you realize that with success comes women, they become a lagging indicator of success and therefore you don't derive as much validation...it becomes more of a "check yourself" metric.

But we're social animals, and sex feels good, man.

[-] Omnidempotent 4 Points 3 months ago

What do you think the age of consent should be?

[-] redpillschool 25 Points 3 months ago

45.

I just want to see the world burn.

[-] max_peenor 5 Points 3 months ago

18

And it has nothing to do with sex. As a parent, I'm responsible for what my children do until they reach the age of majority. If you think they should be having sex at a younger age, then we need to start treating them like adults at a younger age--like we used to do. Instead, it seems we keep ramping up age limits for everything else, some of which has no lasting effects, while pushing to lower the age of consent. If we keep pushing more and more responsibility on parents for the acts of children, the children will never grow up.

I mean, just look at the fucking millenials.

[-] stoicbotanist 4 Points 3 months ago

I think it should all be relative to the other person's age, as it is in many states. A 19 year old with a 17 year old shouldn't be penalized as harshly as an older man with girl.

[-] Proto_Sigma 3 Points 3 months ago

15.

[-] spooky-102 2 Points 3 months ago

13

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

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[-] Omnidempotent 5 Points 3 months ago

no teenage male has ever been psychologically damaged by consensual sex with an older woman

That's a feminist meme used to excuse the sexual abuse of boys and young men. Older woman absolutely can take advantage of boys and do serious psychological harm.

[-] AnAbsoluteSith 1 Point 3 months ago

2nd trimester

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[-] TheRedPike 1 Point 3 months ago

What are you testing?

[-] axletruss 4 Points 3 months ago

If a father went on to "spinning plates" while his children are dying in hunger then should the child abandon the father when he grows up because his mother is the only one looking for him?

[-] Adeus_Ayrton 12 Points 3 months ago

You're dealing in extremes here. Reality has lotsa shades of gray, not just black and white.

But if it's exactly as you describe, then yes.

[-] max_peenor 2 Points 3 months ago

Do what you feel is right.

[-] ProFriendZoner 1 Point 3 months ago

I did.

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[-] [deleted] 4 Points 3 months ago

Why does most of the TRP sidebar look like it was written by an angry or juvenile teenager?

[-] CainPrice 15 Points 3 months ago

Most people are shitty writers. Some internet essay written by a real world person who's not trying to be professional about it or publish a book is likely to be very badly written.

Your average TRP guy is in his 20s, probably majoring in a STEM field instead of English literature, over-analyzes things, and doesn't communicate well. That doesn't make the ideas themselves bad, but it does decrease the likelihood of finding an entertaining and well-written article on something of interest.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Their stuff reads like bottom barrel teenage angst .. literally

[-] CainPrice 14 Points 3 months ago

Your standards are too high. It's literally some thoughts some guys had while taking a shit that they fingered into their phones and flung on to the internet in their spare time, without editing or proofreading.

It's not exactly highly curated content. Just content that expresses decent ideas, however bad the writing.

I mean, your comment above has two periods for an ellipses and doesn't end with any punctuation and reads on a fifth grade level, but it's a comment on Reddit. I don't expect you to take the time to proofread it and make it present well.

[-] [deleted] -5 Point 3 months ago

So literal shit posting is trp sidebar quality ? Wow

[-] CainPrice 8 Points 3 months ago

I know, right? It's actually kind of humbling.

Some random, inarticulate crap I type into my computer today, even if I'm a bad writer who's not that bright, could change a life. A hundred thousand TRP subscribers could read it, and if 0.1 percent of those guys think just a little differently about something because of it, I have literally affected 100 lives today with some random inarticulate idea I typed.

It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from or what your native language is or how educated you are or whether you're a skilled writer or not. You have the power to affect people's lives with your words if your ideas are decent and the people are receptive.

[-] itiswr1tten 6 Points 3 months ago

I'm so good at writing that the shit I come up with up with on the toilet helps guys get laid.

[-] max_peenor 11 Points 3 months ago

Why are you asking about an arbitrary criterion of your own invention?

I think your comment looks like it was written by an angry or juvenile teenager. This is true because I wrote it on the internet.

[-] [deleted] -6 Point 3 months ago

Boring diversion

[-] max_peenor 11 Points 3 months ago

Boring platitude and made up shit.

If you want intellectual respect, you need to be intellectually honest. Name calling is childish and deserves disdain.

[-] [deleted] -7 Point 3 months ago

There's grown up came calling and juvenile name calling.. key point.

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

No. In debate or discussion, there is just name calling. We aren't playing in this thread.

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[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

I appreciate your spelling and coprophagia

[-] redhawkes 1 Point 3 months ago

and you're in the second group

[-] Whisper 8 Points 3 months ago

It's written for angry teenagers.

[-] Kurush559 6 Points 3 months ago

Could you point to some instances of this?

[-] [deleted] 0 Points 3 months ago

Anything with bitches in the title, any of the ones with toilet humor as well as excessive profanity . If you've read that crap you'll know where to look

[-] FereallyRed 7 Points 3 months ago

Bad words are a filtering tool. If me calling you a fag makes you lose your shit, then I know I don't need to waste any more time with you, because you're concentrating on the tone, not the content.

Bruce Lee quote....

'Its like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.'

Plus, write to your audience. There are for the most part angry young men here. They are through with simpering platitudes and bullshit advice., he so called Disney dream. That's not working for them. They want the fucking truth.

Fight club quote...

“We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.”

Last, it's a locker room. Where I can say pretty much what I want. That's an exceedingly rare space for men anymore, as most of the world has been feminized to the point that even saying a bad word is "toxic". You know, toxic may be the worst word out there. It means, I'm offended. I don't give a shit. You can be offended all you want. Your feelings are your own, I have no onus to change my behavior to supplicate to anyone.

Blue velvet quote...

"Fuck you, you fucking fuck"

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[-] toobass 7 Points 3 months ago

Writing in that "teenager angst" style serves a very important purpose for the reader, to begin to see the raw truth. Without filters or sugarcoating, it stop us or anybody from being offended like a little faggot and to see the message and not the medium.

[-] [deleted] 0 Points 3 months ago

You can write in a serious tone without the teenage angst

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

That teenage angst that you seen so quick to dispense with is the driving force of creation, rage, disillusionment, and organization, while it's faced with chaos, lies, isolation, loss, and all of Stacy's games. We would be robots without it.

[-] Proto_Sigma 1 Point 3 months ago

The negative tone is a defense mechanism to scare away people who care about things like sensitivity. We're the locker room of the internet. We're obnoxious. We like it that way.

Could we say the truths of the red pill more tactfully? Possibly, in the same way it's possible to play Grand Theft Auto without actually breaking any laws. But that's boring and takes the fun out of the game.

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[-] itiswr1tten 3 Points 3 months ago

Step one create straw man. Step two attack straw man. Step three feel self righteous even though guys shit posting on the internet about getting laid defines a material piece of your existence. We created you faget

[-] Persaeus 5 Points 3 months ago

"know your audience"

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Ah so most people here are assumed to be angry teenagers?

[-] Persaeus 4 Points 3 months ago

the students are angry young men with the lower end of the distribution being teenagers.

the instructors are older men, and we are not angry

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 3 Points 3 months ago

N00bs often show up here because they've gone through a rough break-up or are just pissed off because all that "movie shit" they've been told to do doesn't work.

Show up at someone's house at 3am with a boombox held over your head blasting "In Your Eyes" is more likely to result in a restraining order than anything else.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

I disagree that this is effective especially for getting results vs getting their attention. Actually I'm more interested in your movie comment. What supposed movie shit did they see and doesn't work?

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 5 Points 3 months ago

Whatever bullshit Hollywood puts in rom-coms. One girl I know actually had a guy tell her, when she dumped him, "but I did all that 'movie' shit."

IMO, the culture misleads men about what women really want, which is, in general, a guy who can handle life, and provide good leadership in a relationship. Sure, some women will say they want a "50-50" relationship...until shit gets real. Women want Leaders not losers, and teaching young men to do whatever girls say they want is the road to being forever alone and isn't good for anyone.

Source: I've had women tell me, point blank, that they feel "calm and relaxed" around me because they are confident in my ability to "handle all problems."

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[-] ChrimsonChin988 2 Points 3 months ago

You only notice when you start paying attention. Many movies and series portray women like goddesses/princesses. Many male characters are being treated like losers.

More so, the fantasy hollywood is trying to create that it's sexy for a man to stalk women give up everything for her because it;'s so romantic blahblah. Buy her presents 100s of roses on valentines etc.

basically that you should treat women like princesses to get some poon... while in reality it's more like the opposite.

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[-] krowitz 3 Points 3 months ago

That makes it pure.

As long as the point makes it across, I don't think elegance is required.

[-] Deadlybeef 2 Points 3 months ago

What make you think a teenager wrote it?

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

Choice of specific words.. normal, well adjusted people don't speak like that

[-] max_peenor 10 Points 3 months ago

normal, well adjusted people

More made up criterion of your invention.

[-] [deleted] 0 Points 3 months ago

Yeah I bet the majority of people would agree with my criteria

[-] LandoChronus 4 Points 3 months ago

That doesn't make it true.

Most men believe their girl would never ever cheat on them under any circumstance. But they would, if even under 1 circumstance.

A belief being widely held does not make it true.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Where did you get the idea most men believe that? That's millions of men. Personal experience can't

[-] max_peenor 3 Points 3 months ago

A majority of people would swallow the blue pill. That doesn't make them right.

We deal in ideas and reality, not a mindless mob mentality.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Everyone uses the blue and red system in a different way so I can't know exactly what you're talking about or thinking

[-] max_peenor 2 Points 3 months ago

WE deal in ideas and reality. I don't give a fuck that other people trade.

[-] itiswr1tten 1 Point 3 months ago

Unconditional guarantee this guy gets a boner from his karma

[-] Vikingcel 1 Point 3 months ago

Do you go to the gym?

[-] Deadlybeef 3 Points 3 months ago

Just quoting here, but it puts things into perspective:

Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.

So, you need to see thing from our side. We realized we're being taught bullshit, and lies. Some of us might express their anger more so than others. But all you do is generalize. You haven't read any of it, just because you thought that some 12 yo wrote those texts. That's called ignorance at best.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

I'm commenting on the style of writing via word choice which reveals something about the poster so take it or leave it

[-] Deadlybeef 2 Points 3 months ago

So, do you think just because someone used words you don't like, makes the content any more untrue? You're funny :)

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

No it just brings doubt to the accuracy of what is written because it makes the source look bad to most people per my experience

[-] subnauticalife 1 Point 3 months ago

Just because somebody doesn’t want to type out a well formed and edited essay while shitting/ trying to share a thought with a likeminded community doesn’t mean they lack credibility. Do you message your friends online with perfect grammar? No. You don’t even take the time to edit your own posts REGARDING other people’s grammatical inconsistencies. Does that seem like a fair standard to hold others to if you don’t meet it yourself?

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Comments and sidebar material are not equivalent.. what a stupid comparison

[-] NextBad 2 Points 3 months ago

The same reason early feminist writings seem like angry incels

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

They probably were angry femcels..

[-] redhawkes 2 Points 3 months ago

If that's really your problem, you're missing the forest for the trees.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Tell me about the forest as you see it

[-] redhawkes 3 Points 3 months ago

Learn to read the context, not the data.

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[-] hottrash96 4 Points 3 months ago

I'm an art student making a fiber arts project responding to trp as a movement of men's rights activism. What imagery (red pills, phallices, etc) would you all like included?

[-] MentORPHEUS 21 Points 3 months ago

You're going to need some heavy gauge fibers to represent our phalluses, buddy.

[-] hottrash96 1 Point 3 months ago

anything specific in mind?

[-] MentORPHEUS 5 Points 3 months ago

Submarine cable.

[-] FereallyRed 17 Points 3 months ago

I think you'll find nobody cares.

[-] itiswr1tten 5 Points 3 months ago

If he pays for it why don't we do those mold a dildos out of EC dongs

[-] FereallyRed 2 Points 3 months ago

A literal bag of dicks. From a bunch of dicks.

[-] Shady-mofo 13 Points 3 months ago

The first rule of fight club...

[-] Whisper 9 Points 3 months ago

We actually don't care how we are viewed from the outside.

[-] hottrash96 3 Points 3 months ago

I think y'all heard art student and assumed I'm some femme art bitch. I'm serious about men's rights and was hoping for actual ideas.

&#x200B;

[-] Whisper 13 Points 3 months ago

Same. Really.

First of all, we are barbarians who don't care about art. Second, we don't really care what your audience thinks of us, either.

This isn't about how we confront an audience that's assumed to be hostile. It's about how we really don't confront an audience at all.

We're not raising awareness, we're changing our own behaviour.

[-] whatdidshewrite 2 Points 3 months ago

We actually don't care

[-] GastrointestinalRein 3 Points 3 months ago

Hey guys, i am 20 and literally rock bottom beta i can't go to clubs because age limit, i am skinny, so my question is With all this can i still game? I want to be confident with girls so i was thinking to start talking to them during daytime i can even do night time, i will be alone so i am my only moral supporter, and i have currently got a drop in my academic year.

[-] HumanSockPuppet 11 Points 3 months ago

Yes and no.

Any guy can run game. Any guy can be effective with game, regardless of his appearance. Physical attractiveness merely enhances the effect of good game applied correctly.

Your initial problem will be that you LACK PRACTICE. You haven't developed all of the non-verbal cues indicating confidence. Even if you nail down the correct things to say, your body language and behaviour will still be incongruent with your words, and girls will pick up on that.

You need to go out and practice. Fail a bunch of times, learn from your mistakes, and adjust. Get incrementally better each time. Game is an acquirable skill like anything else.

[-] GastrointestinalRein 1 Point 3 months ago

Thanks man, i'll follow this!

[-] Kurush559 1 Point 3 months ago

You also need to lift weights

[-] Philhelm 10 Points 3 months ago

If you're too skinny, go to a gym and lift. You don't even need to be jacked.

Regarding women, the pain of rejection would pale in comparison to the pain of life regret.

[-] GastrointestinalRein 1 Point 3 months ago

So can i even talk to them while on street like is it compulsory to hit the clubs?

[-] PosnerRocks 4 Points 3 months ago

IMO clubs are a terrible place to pick up women. It's loud and it is going to come down to physical attraction first. Just practice talking to women in a context not involving trying to sleep with them. You're in school. Just doing study groups or grabbing a coffee to go over notes, legitimately, will help your confidence.

Hit the gym. Get bigger. You'll have this nagging thing in your head about being skinny that will hold you back. It will dissapate when you bulk up. (EAT EAT EAT. hardest thing for me was forcing myself to eat enough).

Finally, wearing clothes that fit is big. You're skinny so baggy clothes are out. Get something that fits more snug. Hit up male fashion advice and go from there.

[-] Philhelm 1 Point 3 months ago

Clubs are a bad place. I would suggest using online dating and target the fugly girls just to get some experience under your belt. Think of it like an RPG - you start out killing rats before you can kill a dragon.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

If you have to ask this question, you are not ready.
When you no longer have to ask this question, then the answer will be "do as thou wilt."

[-] whichbladeN 5 Points 3 months ago

Do you ever socialize with women outside the context of trying to ask them out?

[-] GastrointestinalRein 1 Point 3 months ago

No dude

[-] Mickleton_Mouseroo 2 Points 3 months ago

I think starting with cold pickup if you’re not really interacting with women atm would be fairly unsuccessful, are there any local social groups you could join to increase your interaction with women, like volunteering, sports, society’s etc? If so, that would be a good starting point to learn in parallel with lifting

[-] GastrointestinalRein 1 Point 3 months ago

I'll search if there are any groups for me to join.

[-] SimilarHamster 3 Points 3 months ago

The same bro 20-year-old here skinny as a stick and cripled as well. I go to college by myself. If i can game by myself you can too the thing is don't expect to start out being good at talking to girls unless you're naturally redpilled. The trick is finding what girls are attracted to you through eye contact, waiting for a time they are isolated and then just spending time talking to them or near them. Do that long enough eventually the feels will devolp.

[-] party_dragon 2 Points 3 months ago

Master PUAs can pick up without speaking.

Should you try to seduce girls without speaking? Well, if you want, but you don't need to... You're free to use any tool in your toolbox. Words are one tool. Looks is another. Sometimes, it might be beneficial to avoid using some tool, if you've become too reliant on it ("crutch" - master PUAs often try to improve by limiting what parts of Game they can use).

[-] TheImpossible1 3 Points 3 months ago

I have a true blackpill theory.

All women hate men and are simply waiting to have enough power to rule over us to make our lives miserable for revenge for their past treatment.

Toxic masculinity is equivalent to female hysteria of the past etc.

[-] HumanSockPuppet 15 Points 3 months ago

All women hate men and are simply waiting to have enough power to rule over us to make our lives miserable for revenge for their past treatment.

Wrong.

All women are instinctively submissive and will submit and defer to any man who appears calm, competent, and confident.

"Toxic masculinity" is just another gambit in feminism's world-wide tantrum, pushing the boundaries to see how much free shit they can get before Daddy Patriarchy finally puts his foot down and says "no".

[-] TheImpossible1 5 Points 3 months ago

I don't think anyone will put their foot down.

This shit will go further and further.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

No, you won't put your foot down.

This is the premise of how feminism works – the individual male will not rise against the collective female unionization. Media feminism translates into a trickle-down effect between singular man-to-woman interactions.The hilarious thing about feminism is that by decimating the entitlement of the average man, it makes the world's easiest pickings for a superior man, ipso facto.

[-] TheImpossible1 1 Point 3 months ago

Well what can an individual do exactly?

In terms of removing their power, I have nothing.

[-] HumanSockPuppet 4 Points 3 months ago

Well what can an individual do exactly?

In terms of removing their power, I have nothing.

Yes you do. You have the scope of your own power. That will control more bitches than you realize.

Plus, putting your own foot down will have the benefit of improving the quality of YOUR life and circumstances, which is presumably what you care about.

The Red Pill isn't a movement aimed at fixing society. It's a toolbox for improving your own quality of life.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

Bingo. And making men feel helpless against the Collective Womanhood is the precise principle of Feminist Unionization. TRP can't change that, it can only enlighten you re: the current tides of society.

Also, u/TheImpossible1, it's important to remember that contextually, you always have next to no power in the universe. This is where the Sagan-perspective is helpful. You zoom in enough, you are a god. You zoom out far enough, you are a speck.

You don't need to rob anyone else of their power, but you need to be dead certain of the scope of your own power.

[-] KeffirLime 8 Points 3 months ago

Women who aren't desired by the men they desire are the ones who appear to hate men.

Hence their power struggle revolves around fat positivity, slut acceptance, career women. Essentially an attempt to force desirability.

Toxic masculinity is the same way a women attempts to betaize her boyfriend in an attempt to obtain more comfort, but at the same time making him less desirable to her and everyone else.

Toxic masculinity is simply this happening on a society wide scale, but will never succeed as long as that same masculinity is still sexually rewarded, which it still well and truly is and is why the majority of women are quite loving and caring towards most men.

[-] TheImpossible1 2 Points 3 months ago

So the old joke about feminists being unable to get anyone is based in truth.

[-] itiswr1tten 4 Points 3 months ago

No. There is an extremely vocal minority who is trying to swing the pendulum back as hard as they can. The consequence of this is when the pendulum swings back it hurts more. The reality is most of the internet overreacts to everything and gives huge Credence to fucking morons

[-] TheImpossible1 1 Point 3 months ago

I'm honestly not sure it's a minority at this point, I read somewhere that 52% of women agreed with that shitty razor ad.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

Yeah, of course they did, because it tells men that they ought to be nice little providers. It's telling them that they have to do all these 'chivalrous' play-acts because it's the 'right thing to do.'

When you create moral imperatives, you destroy the fundamental truth of the world – that actions have consequences, or in this case, that a man should expect anything for working hard.
The next logical step is that children should not have to obey advice or commands from their parents, and that a parent choosing to have a child absolves that child of all gratefulness for being fed, clothed, etc.
By drawing this corollary, we can see that the fundamental essence of feminism is the same essence of every 'youth in revolt' movement that has ever been precipitated:
"We didn't ask to be born, you chose this, we don't have to do anything you tell us!"

[-] SimilarHamster 3 Points 3 months ago

They don't hate you unless they cant use you

[-] nodepostgres 3 Points 3 months ago

Most women I've met don't hate men. But they do hate man-children.

[-] TheImpossible1 3 Points 3 months ago

You mean soy boys?

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 3 months ago

Modern society creates man-children. Coddle anybody too long and they become arrested.
TRP was initially created for male sexual strategy, but there were so few people that ended up here as full-grown Men to begin with, in the ethos-ideal of the sense of Man, that TRP has gradually shifted according to need; now it angles to help man-children become actual men.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

She acts real well for men she wants in her life

[-] Vellore992 3 Points 3 months ago

What's with RPW and why does it exist?

Do you think that men can give relationship advice to women while keeping the female sexual strategy front and centre? ie should the fish be teaching the fisherlady how to fish?

[-] Littleknownfacts 1 Point 3 months ago

This should be fun. Following.

[-] [deleted] 3 months ago
[-] Littleknownfacts 1 Point 3 months ago

Why didn’t you actually respond? Your flair says you’re an active member of that community.

No, I pretty much left during the Great Divorce. I'm more curious to see the guys on trp answer this question.

[-] Kurush559 1 Point 3 months ago

Its mostly women giving advice to other women

[-] Whisper 1 Point 3 months ago

There's a interesting problem with getting RP advice, from a woman's perspective. And that problem is: who exactly can be regarded as an expert?

For men trying to seduce women, this is easy. An expert, to whom you should listen, is a man who has seduced many, many women. He has a track record of success. He knows how to do. So long as he also knows how to teach, you're good to go.

But female mating success is creating a good, lasting relationship.

So who's the expert?

A man who has seduced many women? He might know a lot, but he's a fish in this context.

A woman who has been in one very successful relationship for all of her adult life? Well, she succeeded, but she has only one data point.

A woman who has been in lots of relationships? She's a failure.

The best answer, although it's still not as good, is "multiple examples of all of the above". The men are a source of understanding of sexual dynamics. The successful women are a source for examples of what has worked. The women who failed are a source of examples of what not to do.

There is no one "expert" for women, unless it is someone who has listened to a great many of all of the above, and aggregated some good advice.

[-] RedForEducation 1 Point 3 months ago

Not my cup of tea.

But I kind of get it. Women used to run it then had a temper tantrum and trashed it.

I remember the OG reason was for women who had an overly alpha test man with strategies to keep him committed. No idea how close it hits

[-] Dr-Berg 3 Points 3 months ago

To /u/redpillschool and Trp Vanguards

Have you read OSHO? if yes then What did you think about him?

[-] HumanSockPuppet 7 Points 3 months ago

What the fuck is an OSHO?

[-] Dr-Berg 5 Points 3 months ago

What the fuck is an OSHO?

He was a philosopher. I found some of Trp senior member's ideas, thinking similar to him. It looks like they have read him.

[-] grundlecrunch 1 Point 3 months ago

any specific examples?

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[-] Dr-Berg 2 Points 3 months ago

I don't have any specific examples but if you pay attention you will see the similarities with his talks. I'm not a follower of Osho but I've seen many(especially self-help gurus even Eckhart Tolle )use his philosophies but claim their own.

[-] grundlecrunch 1 Point 3 months ago

Interesting I’ll have to check some out. I wonder if those other top guys just came to the same logical conclusions that are universal when given the same knowledge and the intelligence to be able to work it out.

[-] blackedoutfast 2 Points 3 months ago

lol he was the leader of that crazy cult in Oregon in the early '80s. there's a great netflix miniseries about them called "wild wild country" highly recommended.

[-] Dr-Berg 4 Points 3 months ago

Listen to Osho’s talks at the Press Conferences given in Rajneeshpuram on youtube highly recommended.

[-] RedForEducation 2 Points 3 months ago

Not surprised. Many NEET's love to reference something they just watched on NETFLICKS and how it shows the current woes to society.

did you know FRIENDS was homophobic?

[-] 321PK 0 Points 3 months ago

Osho?? That’s was Ma Annan Sheela’s show.

[-] aDrunkenWhaler 0 Points 3 months ago

A cult leader that used platitudes, simple tactics and manipulation to bulid himself an empire and have naive people worship him. Not the first or the last.

[-] whichbladeN 3 Points 3 months ago

Do you think male sexuality is predatory?

[-] redpillschool 13 Points 3 months ago

No. But it is active vs female sexuality which is passive.

[-] [deleted] 5 Points 3 months ago

I think comment-OP is referring to harassment and sexual violence, which are two of the actual solid arguments that Feminists come knocking with. Predatory, as best as I can gather, in the minds of pro-Fems has extended from the classical sexual rape (taking sex by force) to any sort of sexual unpleasantness.

But as TRP knows, if you're giving someone predation and violence that they *want,* it ain't either of those two things. And the line between them is simply whether or not the active party is attractive to the passive party.

So the real problem is that Betas keep wanting sex, and some of them get desperate enough to try to force it, despite being unattractive. If only they were just attractive instead!

[-] SimilarHamster 2 Points 3 months ago

idk mod I've seen some predatory women

[-] max_peenor 8 Points 3 months ago

Predators kill their targets and consume it. The last thing I want to do is kill a woman's sexuality.

[-] whichbladeN 2 Points 3 months ago

That's pretty literal.

You do want to consume the sexuality. It's just a renewable resource lol.

[-] Whisper 1 Point 3 months ago

Wait, we're not supposed to roast them and eat them afterwards?

Have I been doing this wrong?

[-] max_peenor 1 Point 3 months ago

It's ok to coat them in syrup before tasting them either way.

[-] KeffirLime 5 Points 3 months ago

By nature no, it's designed to be a voluntary process, hence mutual attraction.

It can manifest as predatory in certain scenarios however.

[-] SimilarHamster 1 Point 3 months ago

50/50 really

[-] Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 3 Points 3 months ago

"Sexual strategy is amoral."

I agree it is amoral when everyone fucks each other like no tomorrow in a society. If you fuck a CC rider, this is her desicion too.

But why this motto includes fucking wifes but not rape? Or weird fetishes including pedo-necro-zoo philia?

If you wont explain it well, I will call it hamstering: "I want to do it so it should be amoral"

[-] KeffirLime 6 Points 3 months ago

It falls outside of the law and consent(I don't mean in the cringes feminist way). If you're failing to obtain consent, and by association desirability, then it's not congruent with the red pill.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

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[-] cdogg75 3 Points 3 months ago

What is this "alt" and "Jw" you keep mentioning in this thread?

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

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[-] cdogg75 2 Points 3 months ago

obviously not using as many shortforms as you. I don't really understand the need to short form characters to be honest, so I don't do it. The days of the t-9 phone texting are long behind us.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 3 months ago

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[-] cdogg75 1 Point 3 months ago

LOL...of course

[-] blr1998 1 Point 3 months ago

I'm only here to point out that the law is supposed to prevent you from acting amoral. If there is no right or wrong, good or evil, there is no purpose to laws. So chose to be moral or chose to be amoral. Either stay plugged in or unplug.

[-] max_peenor 5 Points 3 months ago

Aside from the legal questions, some things are just repulsive. Rape is one of them. Look at ducks. They are very rapey. It's just how their species works. On the other hand, humans are usually repulsed by it. There is no moral position here.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 3 months ago

Never mind ducks....look at giraffes. When a bull elk kicks another bull elks ass, that's that. IIRC, often after a giraffe has dominated a weaker giraffe, it's rape time.

[-] max_peenor 2 Points 3 months ago

Damn, don't go to the giraffe gym.

[-] DrMrJrSr 1 Point 3 months ago

Don't go to G-Block either..

[-] CosmicSpiral 3 Points 3 months ago

The point of the epitaph has gone over your head.

"Sexual strategy is amoral" = sexual strategy is dictated by what strategy is successful across a general population over a stretch of time. It may or may be optimal - I'm sure green sea turtles would prefer not to waste 85-90% of their offspring to the whims of the ocean - and it may or may not align with the beliefs of a particular society. If anything, it is antithetical to most of the productive institutions of modern-day life. But it doesn't mold itself to fit those institutions' shibboleths or any individual's prejudices on the topic.

Also TRP doesn't advocate fucking other people's wives.

[-] Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 2 Points 3 months ago

I did not said anything about if polygyny is bad or not. But fucking a woman in commited relationship and cucking thr husband cant be moral nor amoral.

Fucking a sleeping women is rape, she will hurt when she wake up. Killing is bad too because it is destructive. But why fucking a man's wife is ok. Personaly, I would rather get my ass raped than get cucked by woman I love.

But if anyone shames fucking others wifes, he gets instantly banned. And people say it is amoral. It feels like advocating.