In the same way that a Blue Pill conditioned “beta male” believes he best represents the new “alpha” definition, so to do a lot of Red Pill aware men who play the same game of applying their own traits to what should be considered or appreciated as “alpha”. Nowhere is this more apparent than in Trad-Con circles – an Alpha is a guy who takes care of his family and is respected as the head of the home. He takes care of his duties to family, God and country, etc., etc. Really all this is is another grab at affirmation of personal worth. Blue Pill “betas” believe exactly the same self-fulfilling thing from a different set of ideological beliefs.

In the process both the plugged-in and the unplugged create convenient archetypes for the opposite of the apex they want to believe they are and what they hope will be confirmed and rewarded. Usually these are binary caricatures: the Alpha ‘Chad’ is usually whatever image of the popular high school jock that used to be their nemesis fits, while the Beta ‘doormat’ is the George McFly character whose introversion and lack of social intelligence places him at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy. Either one of these guys can be seen in a positive or negative light depending on the perspective of who’s doing the viewing. To the Nümale, whatever that classic Beta does should be what’s appreciated as ‘alpha’ and to the Trad-Con an Alpha is the guy who dominates, but only insofar as he sticks to what they think is his ‘duty’.

Funny how both tend think the Alpha Playah, the self-important ‘Cad’ who women tingle for, who follows his own sexual strategy shouldn’t be considered ‘Alpha’ in spite of women consistently, predictably rewarding him with sex and genuine desire. Rian nailed this part; Alpha makes her wet, Beta makes her secure. Our Instinctual interpretive process understands the visceral reasons why women get worked up for that physically ideal guy who also completes the fantasy of the Alpha Fucks side of Hypergamy. But our Emotional and Rational processes want to recreate a reality in which what we have is what women really want. So we try to persuade and convince women to act against their own Instinctual interpretive process with respect to what they should find sexy and genuinely desirable – us, just as we are. We want to change the Game to fit our capacity, our skill, our genetics, to excel in it.

Beta men don’t just hope that women will perceive their own redefinitions of ‘alpha’ as the accepted ideal, they build lives and systems of belief around convincing others and themselves that we’ve evolved past the visceral realities of what arouses women. Trad-Con men, even Red Pill aware men, do something similar – they hope that their own definition of what should constitute Alpha, and best describes themselves, will likewise supersede the natural evolved impulse of what a woman’s hindbrain perceives as an ideal Hypergamous opportunity.

Low value post overall but the reminder of how the Disney Fantasy Fallacy gets in our heads at times is appreciated.

Curious though as to why you're going to ghost her when you could just start adding other plates? I'm not saying she's too good to let go or that you should have a scarcity mindset about finding other pussy; rather, I'm suggesting it might be better for your own psyche to demote her and add other snatch to the roster. She's not a princess, prove to yourself you can treat her accordingly.

Required reading: HumanSockPuppet's Guide to Managing Your Bitches

I have learned so much valuable information from the subreddit. But some things I’m still confused about. Does no one on here believe in a happy relationship? I’ve seen happy relationships in my life, (friends, parents, etc) and I know no relationship is perfect, but I think it is kind of depressing to think that no one will truly “love” you. Is it a generational thing?

> at first I was still surrounded by my newfound success and thought that I would be invincible from feelz for the rest of my life but this was not the case.

I lived the same story, I thought I could just spin plates, have sex with random women forever, I didn't want to ever be the nice guy again, and enjoy life.

> Around a week ago now I started having this strange feeling, this urge to make her my girlfriend.

At least you didn't simp so hard and ask her to move in with you in 5 days

> I know it is a lie so why do I still want it?

It's not a lie, you are hardwired for it once you understand what love is, you will be able to channel that energy correctly, she will have your back,

> I couldn't have cared less whether she lived or died but slowly she began to grow on me... like a fungal infection

This is true love, true care, you aren't a robot, as much as society likes to paint us as sociopaths we just realize love and respect come after sex, you will always fall in love

this is a good thing. You couldn't care less whether she lives or died is you being a real person, most men will never even make it to this step to admit they just want to have sex with a women and if she dies tomorrow he won't shed a tear.

> She is a huge slut and is NOT gf material in any sense.

That is up to you, but make sure you are ready to cut her off, going back would be to late, I decided to give in to this feeling and been married for almost 6 years, she is amazing, sex,love, cook meals, works and helps me build my business, she really stepped up and helped me when I was down, I really got lucky because I committed fast and she could of easily fucked me over so many times. She is a good person with a good work ethic and humble, I'm not saying she is the one, but AWALT, my wife is still AWALT as fuck and that mushy stuff turns her off fast.

Is the idea of Disney love a malicious lie? Or is it rich fantasy woven by idealists with the intent to produce a better world by stimulating the minds of children and filling them with idealistic nonesense?

a bit of both I would imagine but I want to interject a dose of reality into these posts. Often when you first see the falsehoods of the BP world you feel you have been betrayed and naturally you paint these pictures of villains concocting propaganda to brainwash you and keep you down.

I dont think its really that simple. I dont know that Disney would have been creating any of his works thinking "yes! yes! this will turn them all into subserviant little beta males, so easy to control" but I will say with certainty that once the effect took hold and people noticed it, anyone who stood to benefit from handing out Blue Pills would start.

Theres definitely people lobbying to keep shit like this alive. Blue Pilled men are probably a large source of revenue for jewelers, chocolatiers, for instance. Even we on this sub stand to benefit from the majority of the population being unaware of how the world actually works. Yknow, in the ways outside of how it detracts from our existance when you imagine the swaths of white knights that might be ready to make your life hell if the find out youre a redpiller

Blah blah blah blah girls are terrible and a bunch of other blah blah shit, must end blue pill. Good luck with that.

Be concerned with yourself. You do your thing and realize the rest of them are unwilling to be unplugged. It's their fucking problem. You have pussy on the brain, bitches do not matter, they're playthings at best. There is a new crop of girls turning 18 every fucking day.

Even in my teens to 30s, pussy was not my focus, and I had a very high drive that required me to get laid at least every three days. I got good at game and would fuck a girl as long as I could, then find another one to put on the roster to fuck when that one stopped spinning. It's part of your life, not all of it. Who cares if she had great tits, in ten years they won't be so great, but there will be a thousand 18 year old with great tits out there. The feminists are making life shit for girls far more than us. They end up miserable and alone, desperate for the attention they got in their 20s, but unable to get a man they'll find acceptable due to idiotic high standards. They're making it easy for us, all we have to do is not act like you are, lift, and be aware of when a bitch is trying to get you in bed.

It's a strange thing to most that the more you want the pussy, the least likely you'll be to get it. Concurrently if you don't want it, you're not going to get it, so you need to put some effort in, just not all your effort.

You're doing what leftists keep doing: you believe that it is "education" that is the dominant reason of you having this urge to commit and sacrify your freedom for one girl. Truth is, these traits are rooted deep inside every male (the guy sacrifies himself for the girl, while the girl sacrifies herself for the child, hence allowing the cycle of life to continue).

What education can do is actually suppress or help suppressing these traits, which is exactly what TRP is: it is an acquired knowldege. There is no need for blue pill conditioning, but there is a need for red pill one.