Early life
You are a teenager. All hormones and no experience, desperate to get out from under the thumb of oppression of your parents. You need a job. Job gives you the means to do what it is you want to do. Eat, pay rent as a roomie, buy your first shitbox car, go out drinking, hit up vegas for the first time, buy that sweet little nextdoor neighbour girl a movie ticket so you'll get a little hand action in the back row.... money makes the world go round. Since you're a teen with zero experience, entry level shit minimum wage jobs are all that's available to you. The only choice you have is deciding if you want to say, "Want fries with that" or,"Fill 'er up?" Beggars can't be choosers. But there are hundreds of shitty jobs out there. You're on a job carousel. You bounce from job to job, because none of them mean that much, and there are always more McJobs out there. Manager "disrespects" you? You quit on the spot and storm off. You finally find something that sticks, resonates with you. You like it here.
20-30's
You stay, gradually gaining respect and responsibility, growing some skills. Or, your school/training course has finished and you're now qualified to do some higher level work in a field you actually are interested in. Your skillset is growing, you're becoming an asset rather than a slot-filler.
Your name is getting out. Bigger better job offers are coming in. Rival firms are courting you. You have your pick of 4 different choices at all times. You logically and rationally choose the best package for you, again gaining "fame" and experience, getting more wealthy as you go along. Again, you have little holding you to any individual job, because there are 4 better ones just waiting for you to say yes. Bigger better things. But do you just up and quit your old job without having a signed and sealed offer from the better company in your greasy paw? Fuck no, that'd be stupid. You're building your career. Keep swinging to that higher branch.
40-50's
You are where you want to be. Ducks in a row, settled comfortably, making bank. The offers have slowed because you've been stagnant in your field, and frankly your reputation as a hot shot has (justly) diminished. You're still respected by the seniors, but the young hungry hotshots have their eyes on your corner office. You see your old self in them. Some longing and jealousy, but fuck, you've got it made. I bet if you tried you could land a few of those coveted positions opening up at rival firms. You're a big fucking deal, right. You were.
In actuality you've outlived your usefulness to the company. You just aren't a top producer anymore. You get shuffled to smaller and smaller offices, your workload keeps getting decreased. Your value is waning. But you still think you deserve that big corner office. You've hit the wall.
Retirement
One day you show up at work and all your shit is in a neat little box on your desk, security waiting to escort you out. You go down to the local shelter, buy 3 cats, and slowly wither away alone.
Shit. I meant to replace every instance of "men" with "women". And every instance of "job" with "men".
Women relate to men like men relate to jobs.
EtMementoMori 6y ago
Got fuckin inception-ed at that very last part there. Brilliant work regardless, short and concise
I guess my question is, "for such an ordinary path( for men) that you have lied out there, is it worth-it to live like so ? Or is there another way" (the question is pertained to career-wise and living-life wise).
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This is an ideal situation for a beta who has no purpose, and whose only ambition is to accumulate money and have people say nice things about him.
Look at Steve Jobs for example. Does he fit this?
anabolic92 6y ago
Good way to write the post, fucked my brain a little when got the last part.
Funny regardless.
LittleLegionaire 6y ago
No offense but it feels like the body of your post and the intended meaning were written seperately cuz it kinda works but feels inconsistent - women pretty much have all there max SMV from 18-32, they ride the CC all that time, then hit the wall. It'd be like a man working a different 6 figure job every month until he's 35 and then he desperately settles for a reliable desk job that he'll retire in. That doesnt quite make sense.
I agree though, women are often slaves to there hypergamy just as many men are slaves to their sexual imperative - and that's alright until it starts prompting destructive behavior.
RandyBumgardner85 6y ago
The vast majority of women don't bang a different top shelf man every month for a 14 year period. OP's analogy, whilst flawed, was better.
d6x1 6y ago
Probably better if you think about a pro sports player
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It's meant to jar you a bit.
Hopefully helps with the female ideas of hypergamy, cc riding, branchswinging, the wall, and SMV death.
Placed in a logical context and timeline men can understand.
You're 17. You'll get it.
AvengerSentinel 6y ago
If men play their cards right, they can make more money in their 50's and 60's (hell, even beyond) than at any other point their lives. Why fret about job offers if you derive your wealth from actually OWNING things?
StonerTigerMom 6y ago
You get there either through loyalty or game-playing. Metaphor checks.
worktillyouburk 6y ago
pretty much building up my income property portfolio right now, bought my first 3 doors before 30, saving up for the downpayment for the next one.
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worktillyouburk 6y ago
yup that's what i hope for too!
thoughts on using one property as collateral to buy the next one? pretty much do you only get to borrow on the increased value or the whole value of the house ect?
my current property is paying for its self through rents, so as long as i don't lose all 3 tenants at once im not paying anything.
pretty much need more for downpayment
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worktillyouburk 6y ago
that would be great get like 200k out of that, what happens to the current mortgage? or do you get the money as a downpayment and the new bank get to repo both properties of you cant pay up?
Shaney96 6y ago
Again, I'm young so perhaps don't get it. However, am I incorrect in saying a man can continue to build his empire up into his 50's and 60's? That, it is at this point where is perhaps more likely to capitalize on what he's been building throughout his life.
On the contrary, women thrive throughout their 20's, and it is very rare to find one that is 'living in her hay-day' when in her 50's, like a man is able to in regards to his job/mission/SMV.
StonerTigerMom 6y ago
It’s about options and leveraging commitment for the best payout.
Options = freedom/mobility.
Commitment = big gains/losses.
By 50 a man will either be at a point where he never has to work again or he is never allowed to stop based on choices he made in the 30-40 years previous.
By 50 a woman is either a matriarch or a crack whore based on the choices she made and there’s pretty much nothing in between.
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jeromeantoinecarter 6y ago
Doesn't feel right. Men's highest earning years are 40's - 60's. Maybe this applies to car salesmen or something, but in the business world, the C suite is generally (not always) occupied by older individuals with the necessary experience to run a company.
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
Fuck mate, deep as “I see dead people”
myrodia 6y ago
You're missing the key to hypergamy, and that's the dualistic sexual strategy of AF/BB. You've just described optimizing.
I get what you're saying, but you're missing what makes hypergamy more than just optimizing. Men optimize everything, it doesn't matter if it's their job or just their day to day life, but that doesn't make it hypergamy. You HAVE to have the dualistic nature in order to make it so, it's what makes hypergamy different than just simple optimization, and it's also why men by definition are not hypergamous.
Woodie327 6y ago
To follow the "job is to men as men is to women" analogy: BB: comfortable 9-5 bill paying job that you bitch about but you need. It's steady and predictable. AF: fun weekend bartending gig for side cash, better $/hour rate but it's not consistent.
myrodia 6y ago
That's having two jobs. Not dualistic strategy. I get drawing parallels, but the two are fundamentally different.
Nofap_Dutch 6y ago
That last line blew my mind even though it makes a shit load of sense. You, my friend, are a genius.
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myrodia 6y ago
I always love the irony of someone whose clearly angry and upset by nothing out of the ordinary calling someone else a snowflake, but I digress.
Honestly, it doesn't seem like op understands female hypergamy and how it's not just optimization. And sorry if I don't automatically take someone's opinion as gospel just because they have a tag next to their name on the fucking internet.
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