Presentation-
I have been reading the sub for a year and a half now, and even thought in the first few months I didn't really agree with many things posted here (and the sidebar), the truth slowly started to sink.
I lost 30kg (~60 pounds), went from 35% bf to ~14% and am now looking at my first gym gains. Started to receive attention from women wich led me to my first kiss at 18 yo (Ikr!?), by last november. I cured my oneitis (cringy to remember) and tried to learn how to actually behave like a man, wich leads to the main point of my post.
On the sidebar, there are all kinds of stuff on how to tease bitches, be your own man, dgaf attitude and overral, not being a mangina. I started to apply all the knowledge, trying to copy what both my mind and the side bar told me chad would be like.
The poorly applied knowledge just brought me to being kinda dickish to women, and pushing people away, until...
FR-
A few weeks ago I had an experience that both remembered me AWALT and showed me where I'm at in my TRP journey.
There's this guy in my college class that is your classic lowT fat white knight beta. He sells brownies to make some extra cash, and a women bought one and said out loud in class how good it was wich led to 4 other people buying it too. She then said in a very manipulative way: you should give me one for free, since I earned you 4 sales, give it to me.
And he was ACTUALLY going to, but both me and my friend, who I have recognized to be naturally redpilled were listening. I was going to call her out on her bullshit, and tell her to stop manipulating the kid, but thankfully my friend speaked faster. He called her out, and JOKED on it: wow haha I had never seen this dark side of yours "GIVE IT TO ME" (imitatting her). We all laughed, she never got her free brownie.
Before this experience, I thought in my innocence I was already redpilled, alpha, the shit and just had to keep lifting and pursuiting my goals. It made me realize I'm far away from it (possibly going through rage phase?), and still have much to change in my behaviour.
Lessons learned:
• AWALT. Women will try to manipulate you, learn to deal with it.
•Becoming red pilled is about trying to achieve the best version of YOURSELF, and you can't do that by imitatting others. That will just make you look like a dick. Read the theory, but apply it in your own personality.
•I still have to get over the anger phase, wich before this experience I thought to be inexistent on me, but now I recognize a little resentment somewhere, that needs to go.
•Game is internal, by trying to imitatte others, you are actively giving a shit. I am no longer a dick, and have not been pushing my personallity, i'm back on track to become redpilled, and I have recognized this as a big step.
•Don't take women seriously, just make jokes on the bullshit they try to pull, this is the best way to deal with them.
•DGAF, tease and have frame, but be careful to not become dick in the process.
[deleted] 6y ago
Dude, this was exactly what I needed to hear. Been going through a phase lately of trying instead of doing.
On a side note: the other day I caught 2 women attempting to manipulate me into paying less for services rendered, and today decided to flirt h/c with another woman/client and received positive results. AWA(indeed)LT.
It's great knowing what the color red looks like, now apply .. thought your bit on applying personal to yourself was gold.
makethemflaunt 6y ago
Dude. Nice post. Yes, it is rageful-causing when you realize that someone you pedestalized is using their attributes to greedily try and get things for themselves.
Could it be that the true source of the rage is with the fact that you are assigning value to this girl for the same thing that she is then attempting to use in an abusive and manipulative way? (her sex appeal)
The value that we assign to women, just for being sexually attractive, may be the root of anger we direct at them, because we know that at some level we are vulnerable to potential manipulation by their sexual attractiveness. We create all these ways to shield ourselves from abuse by women and their use of sexual power, but as long as we actually feel in our testicles this urge to procreate with attractive females, then there is something to be on-guard about.
See if some of your rage is really with yourself, and how much a pretty woman still means to you.
I found that once I started treating all women as really ugly women who I was still interested in as people and for the value that they brought to the interaction, that I quickly disarmed all these internal triggers surrounding 'pretty girl' behavior, and that I also disarmed my own propensity to be angry with them. Rather, I turned a corner and started to become amused at the men who would fall for the silly tricks. They're only looking with their eyes and thinking with their dicks; kind of serves them right to be manipulated.
You wouldn't be mad if an ugly girl tried to ask for a free brownie half-heartedly and then got shut down, would you? Hot girls are needy and craving and trying to find happiness through controlling other people almost like anybody else. We hate them, because they are so often so effective at it. But if we just see it as sad, or funny, then we're out. If we stop wanting what they have to offer, then who gives a fuck what game they're playing?
As I started to float through female social circles in a way that was sexually charged but rooted in mutually-valuable social exchanges, I weeded out drama queens immediately, and also shut down intermittent shit-tests easily. I just didn't allow that vibration into my field. I'd much prefer to fuck a cool girl who knows how to add value to an interaction than one who is a lot of hard work. I'm even willing to give up a couple of 'attraction points' in order to achieve this. At the end of the day, having sex with cool people is so much better than having sex with needy, trying-to-be-manipulative-all-the-time-high-needs bitches. And when you go the "I only fuck with cool girls" route, you'll be surprised with how many hot girls are actually pretty cool once you get past their massive defences, and you'd also be surprised with how having sex can be a bonding experience that leads to lifelong friendships.
Some of my best friends in life are girls I've slept with, or girls who've wanted to sleep with me (but who I didn't f-close because, to be fair, there are some attractiveness point minimums I do like to maintain).
Anyway, I know this is a bit of a different perspective on the mainstream advice in here, but basically I'm wishing you the best on your RedPill journey and want you to know that getting through the rage phase can take years or it can happen in an instant, and that it will utlimately result from your being able to take on a new perspective. Contemplative and mind-calming practices (meditations) can support you to get to the level which will support this kind of shift. You may work at it for days, weeks, or months non-stop, trying to get to a new perspective, but when it comes, it sort of comes of its own accord. It's not an educational concept you need to rote-repeat and ingrain into your brain. More, it's an insight that you need to create the space for. Best of luck.
redisthetruth 6y ago
Congrats on the weight loss.
You can be dickish to women if it's coming from a place of abundance and truly not caring about whether something happens or not. But it can't be forced or be from a defensive mental state. It has to come from a deeply internalized amused mastery -- just making her know subconsciously that you've seen all this shit before and it's nothing new to you and she's just a little girl in your eyes. But this takes time. You're still young. Go out there and approach women and fail over and over. This is the only way to learn about the games women play.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
This. Just making playful insults for the sake of making playful insults always fucks me over. When I do it to shoot the shit or get bored, it works wonders
TheDarknessGoat 6y ago
Thanks! Indeed this is very true, and I recognize game as my weakness, especially out of inexperience. Will work on that!
redisthetruth 6y ago
i have faith in you. you have great potential with the way you look at things already. to be less than 20 years old with the knowledge is extremely fortunate.
CaptJohnLukeDiscard 6y ago
Are we really getting to AWALT from stories about brownies? This is some weak ass stuff here.
Congrats on the weight loss and increase in SMV. Rest of this post is middle school shit.
TheDarknessGoat 6y ago
My post was more about the girly eyes capitalizing on beta behaviour, and how I felt angry when I saw she doing what she is hardwired to do, but I get it sound kinda stupid when you just make it about brownies lol
halfback910 6y ago
I mean, to be fair she definitely more than earned a free brownie from a strict business perspective. His margins on the brownies are probably like 80% if he's charging a dollar. So if he's selling them for a dollar each, giving her a brownie is giving her 20 cents. If that free brownie converts into even one new sale, he's made a profit. She generated four new sales, which are the most expensive and valuable sale (they taste his brownies and if they're amazing, they're more likely to keep buying them. It's cheaper to keep a customer than earn a new customer). A free product would be fair and could encourage her to generate further new sales.
I might consider cutting her in with free product for new sales and a commission on residual sales from new sales that she brought in. But that's just scratching the surface of his potential. Retail sales are, of course, high margin but they are also higher cost due to their unpredictability and their inability to scale efficiently.
What your brownie friend needs to do is, sure, continue selling brownies retail style to impulse buyers and regulars. But he should also sell brownies in bulk. This does two things. First of all, it allows him to better plan demand because bulk buyers will give notice. This allows you to have leaner cash flows and inventory.Second, while the margins on bulk brownie purchases are smaller, they buy in larger quantities all at once. This allows him to capture economies of scale (i.e. buying in bulk, baking in large batches that maximize the capacity of his equipment and labor) which not only increases his margin on bulk brownie purchases over time, but also improves his margin on the retail brownie sales that he is still engaging in.
Think about it, his fixed costs don’t change, right? The oven uses similar amounts of power/gas if it is baking one tray of brownies or three. He still has to be there about the same amount of time. The dish washing machine uses the same amount of power, water, detergent, etc. He can easily reduce his unit fixed costs simply by maximizing his capacity for one shift.
By scaling his operations up he could also begin to engage in itemization and price discrimination. Itemization being things like, does the bulk buyer want their brownies pre-sliced? Okay, that’s an extra dollar. Icing? Extra two dollars. And so on and so forth, giving his customers greater variety and service while also enhancing his margins. Price discrimination would be charging more for customers who need the brownies sooner. If they’re ordering their brownies two weeks in advance, clearly they can go anywhere and they should pay as little as possible while still making you a profit. Because it also allows you to plan in advance, it’s good for both of you. But if they need brownies that night? Clearly they’re desperate and willing to pay over and above standard brownie prices for the product. Capitalizing on customers’ urgency via price discrimination is another excellent tool to spread out his work flow and capture extra profit.
After he does those things, he can explore an IPO to expand.
TheProphetPhysiquiel 6y ago
If other people were already buying the brownies, he won't make a profit by giving her a free one. He was just selling those four more quickly than he would have. But +1 for the business expansion into macro
tinydickbigballs 6y ago
How much adderall did you take?
halfback910 6y ago
54mg of concerta. Adderall is for quitters.
BernaySaynders 6y ago
The guy is selling brownies for a few bucks. Bitching about how you deserve a free one has to be the pettiest thing ever. You're technically right but no one needs to be like that
halfback910 6y ago
You'll never make it in the competitive brownie racket with this attitude. It's a push business! Push push push!
BernaySaynders 6y ago
Gotta pull them bootstraps harder
BernaySaynders 6y ago
Please tell me you're shit posting
halfback910 6y ago
Sort of. It started out with me just saying "Four sales is totally worth one free product." but then I said "You know what? Fuck it, if I'm going into brownie economics, I'm committing."
BernaySaynders 6y ago
I can appreciate the commitment
wabbit82 6y ago
Oh sure, my 6 years old little cousin wanted a free ice cream few days ago, but I could see through her manipulative female eyes her true intentions. Good thing I read the sidebar before.
Thanks TRP.
TheDarknessGoat 6y ago
Yeah, just like that homeless on the street the other day. These fukin women amaright
PhaedrusHunt 6y ago
LMAO at her saying that because she was a woman. She was just trying to make a deal. Don't spend too much time on TRP. You'll see everything through these goggles
5ubstanc3 6y ago
i feel you on the rage phase haha, im 17 and looking past on the last 4 months ive had spurs of irrational (not even witty) kinda assholeish moments, im still working on it everyday trying to make a subtle transition without looking bipolar haha
WarViper1337 6y ago
Congrats on the gym gains. As for the rest of your post you can sum it up as this: recognise womens shit test and call them out on it.
uebermacht 6y ago
Nice little FR!
This killed me haha
see_the 6y ago
I thought he meant weed brownies at first
TheDarknessGoat 6y ago
he sells baptized bronwies too!