I am 18 and I go to a medium sized community college in California, and I am just finishing up my second semester. I really do not like it so far due to the fact that most people are so ignorantly liberal and I am only going to make my parents happy (want to join Air force soon).
I have a humanities class for pop culture in films, and we pretty much go over ever thing from white/ privilege to black lives matter so I keep my mouth shut because I cannot stand how idiotic the discussions are and all the SJW girls in there.
Today we were talking about feminism and I genuinely was curious and asked, “What rights do men have that women do not?” keep in mind I did not attack them I just simply asked. 6 girls all started yelling at me at the same time talking about wage gap and getting raped on tinder. I then told them that the wage gap stats are skewed due to the fact that it counts stay at home moms who take are of kids as jobless. They just denied my stats, and to top it off one girl excused herself from the room because she “needed a moment” LOL. One girl said, “A girls biggest fear on tinder is getting raped, whereas a guys biggest fear is the girl being fat.” Keep in mind this girl was clearly overweight. Everyones voice overpowered mine so I just remained silent. I kept my cool, learned never to argue with SJW’s and that feminism is cancer.
calgarybro 5y ago
Did you tell the fat girl. "Why are you making men's worst fears come true?"
JBrogrammer 5y ago
Neoliberal feminism is cancer.
For some thought provoking and logically consistent material that is buried under the mountain of shit that currently occupies the label "feminism", I recommend checking out the gender critical sub and Magdelen Berns on youtube.
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Women are natural con artists. A girls biggest fear on tindr is not getting fucked hard enough by their 5"11, 135ib, feminist boy pussies. Women would rather get "raped" than get in bed with an omega/beta adult child, which is the cancerous byproduct of their agenda to make men give up their power to women. They make naive innocent males feel guilty about a crime they never even had the opportunity to commit. Future generations of the 99% of young straight males who don't have Chad genetics will never see a pussy outside of porn unless they pay for sex workers, which doubly serves women. However I have to compliment women on systematically weeding out undesirable men. Women are winning the war of the sexes and we're here with our dick in our hands trying to figure out how to get in touch with our feminine sides. We were hoodwinked when we didn't know better.
Fool me twice can't put the blame on you.
AssumeFormlessness 5y ago
Feminism is a big shit test. By being emotionally affected by it and ranting about it, and not understanding it's just women doing what their doing because they're women and their psychology. Do you hate a dog for being a dog? Do you hate a cat for being a cat and doing cat things? Understand by taking feminism seriously at all is failing the shit test, and is the cause to why feminism exists at all. If men would just chuckle and say "sure, whatever you say honey...". Men would have passed the woman's test, and she would feel trust in you, that she and her child could survive easier, with a strong man. Women test you and test you to see if you are strong enough for intruders. If you fail these test, by reacting the least bit emotional, she will see you as weak. "How could he defend and provide for us if he's even weaker than me?". The more we live in luxury, and an excess of recourses and technology, and this makes us more and more unchallenged. Weak men is the sacrifice humanity has to make for us to live in luxury. One cannot exist without the other. You have to focus on YOU. You have to realize that whatever happens, wether Trump or Hillary wins, or if there is a communist, or an ultra-rightist that rules the country, or if you see blatant feminazi propaganda in movies, YOU, as a strong fucking MAN, will be alright.
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"Tinder is not a human right. You can just uninstall the app."
himsenior 5y ago
I agree they are obnoxious. However, the military is one area in which women don't have avenues of justice if they are sexually assaulted. Here is an article from Foreign Policy, which isn't exactly what you would call a bastion of SJW's. This is a real problem.
Listen, I know people are angry at the tone of some feminists. I get it. There has been an increasing trend to value group think over individual thought. Purity tests are everywhere. People are armed with misinformation and hyperbole. I get it. They're obnoxious. But it is a stretch to say feminism is a cancer my friend. Do you think you would have the sexual market options you do today in 2018, were it not for the sexual revolution of the 60's which was largely introduced by second wave feminists fighting for reproductive and sexual freedom?
will_berttttt 5y ago
Im talking about modern day feminism
himsenior 5y ago
Sure, but that distinction between modern feminism and second wave feminism is rarely mentioned in this sub. Feminism gets conflated with the attitudes and tone of some modern feminists. But I have to note that you didn't have anything to say about the modern challenges women in the military face.
I'll also add that unequal pay is also demonstrated by women losing wages when they have children since paid maternity isn't mandated. Women pay more for healthcare as well. I understand that your classmates were thinking about direct pay discrimination. And honestly I won't contest your point because I'm unread on that facet of the argument. But even if I concede that bit, I think your generalization about feminism as cancer is unfair. Modern feminism isn't homogeneous. People and ideas fall on a spectrum.
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Personal choice. Don't get children, then. Women making a personal choice to raise babies should not be a company's problem (or society's problem, for that matter). If I decide to take a four-year break to finish my PhD, my employer shouldn't be under any obligation to pay anything. It would be a "nice to have", but definitely shouldn't be a "mandated right".
As they should, since they get sick more often (42% more likely to take sick days than men, take twice as much psychotropic drugs, etc). I pay more for car insurance just because of my zipcode, because the likelihood of theft is higher than other places. That's how risk analysis works.
It is marxism redressed as a social-political movement, it is anti-family, anti-men, anti-white, it increases the rate of single parenthood (and by extension, poverty and crime rate and more single parenthood), increases the rate of abortions, increases pressure on social services, stimulates a mentality of constant victimhood and learned helplessness, etc.
It is pretty cancerous.
himsenior 5y ago
The old and disabled in our society very much depend on new children being born and paying into social security. Advances in math and science depend on new people to develop them. Women not having children is absolutely a societal problem. Pursuing a pHD and cultivating a sentient being are quite different. I'll let you figure out the differences there.
Women pay more for health insurance also because of the health costs of pregnancy and childbearing. And again, a flourishing society requires that reproduction.
You have given an example of a contemporary sociopolitical movement that is a branch of feminism. There are plenty of other modes of feminism one could learn about if they were interested in even glancing at the Wikipedia page on the topic. Which I'm sure you aren't, because it seems you've made up your mind already.
But, I am curious as to how you reconcile your grievance against the "increase rate of abortions" and airing that grievance in a lifestyle sub that very much depends on women having reproductive freedom.
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I get that a society needs children - more than it needs electricity, running water, sewage systems, etc, otherwise that society dies.
Still, when and if and how a given woman decides to have children is still a personal decision, and a family decision, that should be confined between her and her husband. That's why marriage exists in the first place.
You should not be forced to pay for my child indirectly through taxes, my employer should not be forced to pay for my decision to have a child, it's family business between me and my wife. We need to come up with a financial plan that accommodates for the financial setbacks of childbearing, just like if my wife decided she wants to stop working and go back to school, we would need to plan for that (even though society in general also benefits from her education).
And again, it's a personal choice to have children (and how many, and when, and how). So of course it should cost more for women, if they take more from healthcare, just like men drive more recklessly and pay more for car insurance. The fact that society needs women reproducing to survive does not negate the basic economics of the costs of providing services. Medications cost, nurses need to get paid, sick days taken have an impact on company productivity, etc. The healthcare industry is not a perpetual motion machine.
There are a handful feminists I like and agree with (Christina Hoff Sommers, Camille Paglia, Blaire White, comes to mind right now) and think are sensible, but most others are not, in one way or another. If you have an example of feminism that you think I could learn from, let's see.
I'm here for the self-improvement stuff and to better understand and game my wife, to keep the attraction going, etc, and while I'm not particularly interested in fucking around or gaming other women, it's still useful to know how because it also affects business relations, interpersonal and social dynamics in general, etc. For example, while I'm not actively interested in fucking my wife's friends, it's good that I know how to attract them, because that makes my wife look good in her circle (and keeps the dread up).
It's clear that the TRP is not a recipe for the good of humanity, it never claimed to be: it's self-interested narcissism, much like 3rd wave feminism is, just on the other end of the spectrum. At least the TRP is honest about it.
himsenior 5y ago
I appreciate this response. I won't say much more on paid maternity. Obviously any social safety net will incentive people to make poor choices. But as with social security, I don't think that's necessarily an argument for eliminating that particular social safety net.
I'm not an anarchist but I admire Emma Goldman's work for being ahead of its time. I'm not going to defend all of her views but generally I think she captures the spirit of feminism. Essentially, women having reproductive freedom and equal opportunity. That's what I've been taught as central to the ideology.
Your comment about your motivations clears up my above question.
I think TRP is a bit more than self interested narcissism. If it wasn't then there wouldn't be so many posts ranting about the social ills of feminism. TRP seems to be an opportunity to structure the world in a more realistic manner. I don't think it's purpose is to save the world. But I do think philosophies should strive to be as least harmful as possible. If we could imagine TRP pre-civilization what would it look like? Well, sexual strategy is about might and men would merely have to be strong enough to not have to compete with alphas and simply rape the women they claim. Obviously we have come a long way from that. I understand that moralizing is generally not allowed here, and that's fine. But my point is that TRP still has to operate within a certain moral framework to be successful, or else it's just a pro-rape sub as it (unfairly) gets accused of being. I actually think that features of TRP and feminism are more compatible than folks seem willing to explore. And in turn I think our game will benefit from finding that common ground.
HappyScribe 5y ago
I'm sure others will say the same thing, but you're going to experience a lot of this, especially if you go to college after the air force.
Do not be a martyr. Keep your head down like a good slave, and get your qualification. That's your objective, you're not going to change these women's minds by arguing. Can you even imagine one of these women saying, "Hold on! Will_b has a point! He's changed my mind".
Understand the environment you need to travel through, and focus on your mission.
megamanxtc 5y ago
Tells a lot about the type of people you're going to run into already.
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RPAlternate42 5y ago
If Tinder's such a rapey crap-shoot, then they should stop using Tinder.
But they keep using Tinder, so either they like the risk of being raped or rape isn't as big of an issue as they say.
The outcome of using Tinder, rape or not, isn't a rights issue. Tinder's not a right. not getting raped is a right, but her argument posits that somehow the legal powers in charge allow women to be raped. So equal rights are make rape illegal (it is) or require that a man gets raped everytime a woman does.
Tinder isn't a rights issue.
Stop arguing with children.
wanderer779 5y ago
You could tell them, "that's not true, the worst thing a man has to worry about is ending up with a girl like you." Of course it wouldn't be worth the repercussions, but it would be fun in the moment. And it would also be true.
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magx01 5y ago
Enjoy the divorce rape sure to come.
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magx01 5y ago
I wasn't divorce raped. My divorce was unnaturally equitable.
magx01 5y ago
"one girl excused herself from the room because she “needed a moment”
I firmly believe the people that do this shit are 100% faking it.
aolders 5y ago
I feel like this is something typical for American culture. I'm from a country that many would call a SJW/social paradise but even here questioning or criticising feminism would not cause these kind of reactions. I can only view your culture from the outside, but for me it seems like opinions in the US are way more emotional than in Europe.
acidicbitchdotcom 6y ago
Feminism isn’t cancer. It’s a cold. Drink some oj, hit the gym, don’t worry about it. The human race is young, we are still working out the kinks, and like all teenagers, our species goes trough some really stupid phases. Feminism isn’t even in the top ten stupidest things we’ve ever come up with. Like most movements, it’s a good idea that went off the rails. Biology will persevere.
MaliciousMack 5y ago
Agreed. With things like:
Facism Marrying women you raped That children should be King Racism Etc.
Feminism feels harmless by comparison.
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acidicbitchdotcom 5y ago
Someone on this sub summed the whole thing up pretty well (although I'm paraphrasing, if anyone knows what post I'm talking about, feel free to give credit) - modern feminism at it's most extreme is a useful filter. You take all the women who aren't worth your time and give them all of the men who can't get the kind of woman you want anyway, and they can have their sad little party over there, and they can yell loudly about it the whole time, and this saves you and your actually desirable potential mates a whole bunch of time. No fuss, no muss.
scissor_me_timbers00 6y ago
Ehh, feminism progressed this far is a terminal symptom of a civilization in decay imo. Not the human race but our civ (the West) is kinda fucked. And with nuclear weapons, the next century could be the bloodiest as the geopolitical chessboard shifts around and we come to potential conflict w Russia or China most especially. China will take the reigns away for global leadership sometime during this century and the West won’t let go without a fight.
No it’s not all feminism’s fault, but it’s more than a fucking cold dude, it’s like a serious illness that you contract after your immune system has been compromised by AIDS.
acidicbitchdotcom 5y ago
I think that there is a wide gulf of mental leaps between identifying something as bad and decrying it as a terminal symptom of a civilization in decay.
By almost every measure, our civilization is doing better than it ever has done. It is not constructive to handwave any problems and have a blindly positive attitude about everything, because that just leads to existing problems getting even more out of hand. But the current state of feminism is blown out of proportion by its loudest proponents. Almost every woman I have ever met wants to have the right to vote, to work, to own property, and to get fucked often and hard and well by a man who makes more money than them and invites them into a strongly framed world. AWALT is a an acronym that has gotten a negative connotation, but it isn't all bad. The loudest people are just the stupidest, almost always, in every arena. Just because there are vocal beta females and their orbiters who want to socialize sexual attraction doesn't mean that will actually happen. This movement in its current form won't survive another generation. Some of the bad and some of the good from every generation gets woven into the fabric.
_Ulan_ 5y ago
Let's all talk about things we don't really know about ! Where is my pan and my stick
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Well sure it’s speculation I’ll admit that. But I guess the main thrust of my point is that the current virulent strain of feminism more toxic to the body politic than the common cold is to the human body.
caP1taL1sm 5y ago
+1 dude, posts like these just make TRP look bad
acidicbitchdotcom 5y ago
Like, I understand the sentiment, but getting angry needs to be a temporary step on the path to “ok, this is reality, now that I’ve vented, what can I personally do to maximize my success in this reality.”
Marcus1138 5y ago
Yeah, largely these kinds of posts are post fuck-up rationalizations. Dude acts like a sperg, so he makes a post on here to make himself sound like a victim.
I mean, feminism has issues, lots of them. But if you find yourself in a situation like the above you know you did something dumb - you don't get 6+ people yelling at you for asking a question in a genuinely unconfrontational tone.
And there are fair points. Men are lucky to have the opportunity to put on muscle and be capable of defending ourselves. I'm only 5'6" and very light, but I can still overpower 95% of women under 5'9". As rare as rape may be, it's a valid fear. We can recognize that women do faces issues and try to find solutions to that, while still advocating for men's rights and trying to combat toxic feminism. People who reject all feminism as bad and all issues that women face as trivial are generally somewhat bitter and self-absorbed, just like the SJWs who reject all of men's issues.
So moral of the story is don't be a retard, don't seek validation from online communities after a fuck-up, and go out and improve yourself so you don't end up in this situation again.
(Not you you, but OP - I 100% agree with your comment.)
acidicbitchdotcom 5y ago
I would go even further and say that rape is not just a valid fear, but one of the biggest factors in attraction. Women don't just want a man who won't rape them, they want a man who can defend against potential rapists. You want to be manly enough that your girl is attracted to you as exclusively as possible, but that doesn't do much against a guy in a dark alley who can bench four of her and doesn't care about society's conventions. I've seen feminist/beta extremists so far gone that they've blocked out this reality to the point where any guy who has the physical capacity to potentially rape a woman is automatically suspect, which of course misses the point entirely.
will_berttttt 5y ago
Cleary you do not know California because I 100% asked it in the nicest way possible, and I really was curious. Maybe Im too young and naive to think that i would have gotten an actual answer. I just wont talk in class anymore so I don't step on anyones toes.
Marcus1138 5y ago
True, but I am in Canada which I've heard is about as liberal as California. But who knows.
will_berttttt 5y ago
In all honesty I have been reading trp stuff for a couple months so Im kinda new. I half expected to get yelled at based on what ive read, but I had hope that there would be a valid answer.
Marcus1138 5y ago
Lots of new folks love a good rant, plenty of people are in the same situation you are.
Not sure what answer you're looking for though, looks like your post was mostly just sharing what happened. Which is fine, but most of the vets stick to field reports, theory, or check asktrp to answer questions.
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VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
That is 100% avoidable by not being on Tinder.
one_chuck4 5y ago
Just a heads up a man, if you’re planning on going into the Air Force, it’s in my opinion one of- if not the most liberal branches in the military. Big blue tends to be very SJW friendly. I’m in one of the battlefield airmen jobs, and it’s not too bad, but still disturbingly prevalent. Myself and others have been reprimanded every time we try to acknowledge the fact that males and females are biologically different. Affirmative action in this area is literally gonna get people killed sooner or later
will_berttttt 5y ago
Would you mind me shooting you some questions about being a battlefield airmen and some af jobs?
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nikopua 6y ago
Imagine them in the workforce. Would this kind of female even deserve more than the minimum wage?
dinnerwithfunions 5y ago
Welcome to upside down clown world.
CrimsonEllipse 5y ago
This is the correct approach. Don't get distracted and stay on point.
Women do not have a RIGHT to use tinder. The alleged existence of the wage gap has nothing to do with rights because men do not have RIGHT to more pay. When these get brought up, you stay on point and ask:
Austin6403 5y ago
But why are you in college just to make your folks happy. Do what YOU want to do.
will_berttttt 5y ago
I'm training to become a Air force PJ which has very physically tough standards,but doing college and working in the meantime.
_Ulan_ 5y ago
It's not cancer, you just forgot the 80:20 rule. By getting in a position of power using TRP you are leaving the mainstream beliefs and seeing it from a different perspective. Reading what you said, it seems like you want everyone to think like you do : They won't.
If you actually defined the ideal world that would exist without this cancer, you realise that it isn't possible.
overS0L7 5y ago
I have a strange theory that the male shaming built into the feminist narrative is one huge conspiratorial shit-test.
rorrr 5y ago
You still won that particular argument. They couldn't name a single right.
a_desert_creature 5y ago
Although my response to the Tinder complaint is: Nobody is forcing you to go on Tinder and meet complete strangers for sex.
askmrcia 5y ago
The problem with that point and debating women in general is that they (women) always LIE to try and win an argument or debate.
You say that and they will respond "I'm not going on tinder for hookups, I'm there to meet friends and new people."
Had a debate with my roommates new GF (he's 29 NICE guy and she's 34 post wall). Told her in a nutshell that women sleep around throughout their 20s, sleeping with me that make shitty partners until they hit a wall because now they want to settle for a nice guy to have a family with.
Ofcourse she responded that she and none of her friends are like that (which that's exactly what she did) and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Or another example on AskReddit where girls were bitchin about guys who approach them in clubs is creepy because its wrong for a girl to be approach by a complete stranger. Yes, you read that correctly. I ask them then why do they go to clubs/bars which are known social environment if you don't want strangers (men) talking to you?
I get downvotted to oblivion and they respond "what rule says you have to interact with other people at a club. My friends and I just want to be left alone."
Point I'm making is yea, its better to not even respond.
a_desert_creature 5y ago
Valid point. Women will backwards rationalize everything they do.
redisthetruth 6y ago
Don't argue with women. In general, don't talk numbers or logic or analysis or politics or religion or gender relations. Forget being right.
Smirk at them. You have to actually practice feeling as if they are quite below you and are not worthy of logical big idea discussions (unless they are the rare intellectual type, and even then, they are ruled by emotions). If they feel you have nothing to prove to them, and that conversely, they have to prove to you that they are worth your attention, you become a challenge and will attract the sexiest girls.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Exactly. Smirk at the prof, and ask her a difficult question questioning her beliefs
scissor_me_timbers00 6y ago
Yeah this is the mentality I’ve found myself in. I’ve just realized these dumb females are below me. It’s so true when you realize they aren’t worthy of a true breakdown of big ideas. They’re just half growns.
It’s just turned me into a misogynist. I never used to be a misogynist but now I am one in my core beliefs. It’s just sunk in that women in general are below men. Although in this society the men are generally so pathetic that it’s understandable why this lie of equality has been able to take root in female minds especially. They see all these pathetic males and think “I’m better than them” and are probably right. But if guys actually developed themselves they’d clearly outgrow women.
In fact I’d say that’s one of your biological duties as a male is to outgrow females. It’s the natural way. It’s why females instinctively don’t fuck guys below them. Because her female hindbrain knows a proper guy should be above her. Nature gives you the brain and hormonal profile to outgrow women and become better than her in most spheres of life. It’s why all adult females are “women” but not all adult males are “men”. Man is a title for when you become legit.
Anyway it’s just funny how this whole feminism train is just creating more misogyny because it lays bare all these terrible and ridiculous female characteristics for what they are.
redisthetruth 5y ago
“Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.” ― H.L. Mencken
Women are mostly catty with each other. They understand each other better than we men understand their sex, and they know they are all just competing for the attention of the top men. They derive their self-worth by how attractive they are to these men. Basically, they know looks and femininity are their only real asset. They know the tricks they play to gain status amongst each other. They act all nice and friendly with each other, but deep down they can't really stand each other for the most part.
But I don't think we have to hate women. I think it's best to practice looking at how things are without too much judgment. Women are just women. It's not their fault they are the way they are. It's simply the universe at work. It's perfection. It's eons of evolution.
But looking down a bit at women and being a bit dismissive and rude to them opens up so many opportunities. They love being looked down upon. It's how nature is. Men are bigger physically, and better at almost everything physical and intellectual. We are MEANT to look down on women. And they are meant to admire our strength and will. A strong will is not something many women have. In general, they don't have the natural drive that men do. And it's ok. I love women without much drive. It's totally feminine.
Woodie327 6y ago
You’re not a misogynist, you simply understand that women differ from men by nature. They are below us in the same sense that children are below them. Women shit test men to test their strength as men (what can the women get away with) the same way children test their parents (what can the child get away with). Feminism itself is one big shit test and red pill men are passing the test.
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acidicbitchdotcom 5y ago
I think that when you've fully digested the red pill, misogyny evaporates. I might get mad when my dog pisses on the carpet or when it rains and I left the top down on my car, but at the end of the day, I should have taken my dog outside and put the top back up. The path of the red pill is about getting the most out of the good in life and not wasting time on the bad, whatever that means to you personally.
I'm not criticizing your misogyny, I just hope you realize that it is (or at least can be) an only temporary stop on the path to happiness. Women are elemental, and their nature is neither praise- nor blame-worthy. But recognizing and accepting that nature and knowing how to handle it is a kind of enlightenment.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
No I’m 100% with you. Maybe we’re using the term misogyny in two different ways because I don’t hate women. I’ve just realized that it’s a sin to think of them as equals. Everything works better that way. This isn’t some anger phase or red pill stuck in my throat. By misogyny, I just mean I don’t really take women too seriously because nature has made them what they are.
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scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
It’s really not ridiculous tho. Testosterone causes males to grow “further” than females in some respects. Stronger willpower, stamina, energy, discipline, drive, musculature, physicality, emotional control, etc. This is all due to the male hormone profile.
Natural selection breeds males to be leaders and fighters and producers. Females are not selected nearly as harshly in these regards. In fact the term “neoteny” refers to the perpetuation of childlike, adolescent, or immature traits into adulthood. It usually refers to physical traits. Like humans are neotenous apes. Even as adults we are not as hairy as apes and our faces are more youthful than adult ape faces.
And my point of all this is that human females are sexually selected mostly for their most neotenous traits. So over time you get very youthful looking women even as adults. And this carries over into the overall hormonal profile as well.
And the brain too is affected by hormones. The male brain is less affected by the turbulence of emotions like the females brain is. That would be maladaptive.
So yeah, there’s a reason women instinctually fuck upwards socially and are disgusted by males below them— because their hind brains know that adult males should be more grown than them in terms of overall capability and prowess. It’s just nature dude. Doesn’t mean females aren’t good at some things. But there’s a reason most major historical figures are males and the answer isn’t “oppression”.
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scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
lol k internet shrink, since you know me so well.
It’s not about fulfilling a need you tard, it’s about understanding reality and nature objectively.
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scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Actually my relationship w women has improved since I adopted this new perspective. But you already know everything about me. Case closed.
GoneAndFound 5y ago
Mm and I assume these women would be as happy with their relationships with you knowing you see them as inferior. This sub make me so sad
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Well it depends on what you mean by inferior. Women respond terribly to males who take them too seriously. They respond great to males who see thru their childish bullshit. Because deep down most women know how full of shit they are, and it subconsciously causes them to lose respect for a guy who can’t see thru her.
This does not apply to all aspects of female behavior however. Allow for some nuance. There are times when the female really is sharper or more competent than the male, and then she should really be listened too. For example sometimes wives can see thru a scam quicker than their husband can.
But overall, taking women too seriously is retarded behavior for full grown males. Great way to get yourself friendzoned as a weakling.
HammerSpam 5y ago
low effort post, never argue with a feminist, by doing so you slip into her frame
Omnibrad 6y ago
Law 38
Think as you like but behave like others.
If you make a show of going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you for making them feel inferior. It is far safer to blend in and nurture the common touch. Share your originality only with tolerant friends and those who are sure to appreciate your uniqueness.
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ManSoldWorld 5y ago
Had a feeling I'd see this here.
That law is also why you never, EVER, EVER talk about TRP in public. I made the mistake of telling my two roommates about it, and they're acting butthurt because I've been working out and trying to improve myself without them in tow.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Or be like me and ask the profs difficult and incisve questions that question the narrative in the guise of curiosity. I have done this in a sociology class I had to take and it caused the prof to get high blood pressure by her own admission. I was a polarizing individual and everyone knew me, I even got a date out of this. And an A+ in the course.
ConsumingImpulse 6y ago
Nah, triggering mediocre idiots with your mere presence is amazing
LeDrone53 6y ago
Currently experiencing the same bs in my social movements class and as much as it pains me to not trigger these softies I keep my mouth shut bc I need this A
rowan771 5y ago
My final elective unit of my science degree I chose a communication unit, because I'm working full time and wanted an easy subject that I don't have to spend too much time on. Anyway holy fucking shit it's seriously PACKED with fat angry lesbians. Topic 1 was gendered language, topic 2 was stereotypes in media. Maybe I should lobotomise myself before the next class...
dinnerwithfunions 5y ago
I've opened my mouth to trigger lefties and even quoted the unabomber in these types of classes and still received an A. If you can demonstrate comprehension and critical analysis of the material, most sane profs won't dock your grade for not politically aligning with it.
However if you go on a "feminism is a cancer because" tirade in an essay asking to give examples of feminist culture in hollywood film, your grade will probably get docked because the writing has nothing to do with the question.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Trigger the prof and get an A+ like me
Callmetonay 6y ago
I think that's the wise decision. You're not going to argue the people who think otherwise differently and you would be wasting time and energy in trying to do so. It's better to keep quiet and snatch a good grade.
LeDrone53 5y ago
Although I do believe it’s best to exchange ideas so people can actually LEARN and understand where we come from but I’d rather talk to a wall instead of arguing with fetuses who will just call you racist when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand
It’s NYC, man u gotta love this city ????
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Social movements, what the fuck is that? Humor me, I'm a salty, old Marine.
ChadThundersmash 5y ago
Like bowel movement but in the classroom :) T0gether now ==> PUSH!
LeDrone53 5y ago
First I want to say how much I appreciate and thank you for your service!! I wish I could answer your question but I’ve been stoned off the reefer throughout the whole Marxist readings and social depravities BLM what not.
All I learned is that there are no safe spaces for badasses like ourselves.. as if we wanted them in the first place ????????♂️
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You don't grow in safe spaces. Fuck that noise. You learn more about yourself and the world around you when your views and ideals are challenged.
TheRealJesusChristus 5y ago
When I hear the word „save space“ I get a shiver on my back. As if my whole existence is telling me to keep away from this shit. I cant understand how there really are people who want that. Especially men. Who are biologically made to be in danger. Not in save spaces. ????(<-this emoji shows exactly the way Im feeling lol)
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Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Are you stupid that you need an authority figure what to believe? Use your own fucking brain.
TheRealJesusChristus 5y ago
Wht kind of reference, a source? Wait Ill search the statistics of males doing dangerous stuff agains females (bungee jumping, etc), military, hunting, etc if you need one. Wait Ill add in an edit
Edit: Military: (US-military stats on how many % are women and real numbers on how many were held prisoners during some special wars like the civil war, ww2 etc) https://www.statisticbrain.com/women-in-the-military-statistics/
Female hunters make about 11% of hunters in the US (2011, but I doubt it changed drastically. It says its growing but as the numbers go it did not surpass 15% until now): https://sportsafield.com/making-history/
About bungee jumping its really difficult to find stats about m/f participation rates. So I take back my claim on that one until I (or someone else) finds something to back it up. But the general point still remains.
offbeast 5y ago
You could probably argue that both men AND women are meant to face degrees of danger, hardship, etc. its not like an ideological safe space is good for anyone.
dthlist 5y ago
Fishing for attention mentioning that you are a marine is the same as fishing for attention stating you are a woman.
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In your feeble little mind perhaps. Worrying about what the next guy is doing is the definition of poor frame, fella. Work on that.
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[deleted] 5y ago
Have fun being reported for harassment and blocked. Get a life, kid.
dthlist 5y ago
id expect nothing more from a marine
[deleted] 5y ago
Says the next incel mass shooter. Blocking you is to easy. I wanna see how much of a fool you can make of yourself. Let's get to the bottom of your hate for jarheads. Did you walk in on a chick you were dating having a train run on her by us?
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Honestly the biggest problem with mens rights and ant feminism is that people are to scared to say anything so a large amount of people are thinking about it, but it is not considered an acceptable view because no one talks about it. If more people talked about their views openly without fear, mens rights would not be as taboo as it is now. Though if you just wanna help yourself then stfu until you know what everyone else thinks and speak accordingly.
acidicbitchdotcom 5y ago
This is maybe one of the best and most important comments I've ever seen posted on this sub.
RP_d0r 5y ago
You made the simple mistake of assuming your college was a place for actual discourse. Unfortunately, the vast majority of colleges in the US serve as a breeding ground for your typical soyboy/SJW-types, and they are impossible to reason with.
One of the most important rules of public debating is that once a person has made their mind up, it is almost impossible to change it (it requires a very special kind of intellectual honesty to allow yourself to admit you were wrong, humans are weird like that). Your biggest mistake was, essentially, trying to convince people who have already made up their mind.
That being said - feminism, in its contemporary form, is indeed cancer. What else is new?
chambertlo 6y ago
Never let the feminist bullies silence you.
TheStumblingWolf 6y ago
To people like that it's like a religion. It has nothing to do with facts, and everything to do with feelz - hence why stating facts (or generally acting rational) doesn't work.
saggygooch20 6y ago
Personally I wouldn't recommend arguing with closed minds. You will not change there crazy heads because you are not a therapist. But yes the stats are scewed and it's an earnings and hours worked stat. They are less career ambitious in general and so most don't get the top jobs in there fields and those in lower income jobs are more likely to do less hours than there male colleagues. according to the official statistics. And the right not to get raped exists because rape is illegal. I am concerned that they can say such bull shit. Yes women get raped but it is not the fault of any institution but the fault of the individual rapist. How the fuck does an sjw mind work. They can spin black panther and act like it's the first movie ever to feature a largely black cast and now they if a woman gets raped it's the fault of tinder or the government or men as a entity or whoever the fuck they feel like blaming. Rant over.
The__Tren__Train 6y ago
should have asked her how she got so big
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Hjalmbere 6y ago
You will not win your opponents over because they are fanatics, but other people are listening. And women will be impressed if you maintain your composure and smirk.
zyqkvx 6y ago
If you know a woman is wrong and choose to argue with her you are entering her frame because women do not limit themselves with logic. Men, on the other hand, try to use general logic universally. The logic that applies to things and arguments does not apply to women. Issues and things don't spit back spin. People do (especially women). You need to give up the logic of things and explore psychology and the nature of people. Then a specialized version of logic will emerge that can be used to deal with people. People are not a lunar lander touching down on the moon.
liberty1127 6y ago
Why would you go just to make your parents happy?
Supernatural_20 5y ago
I did. It's not a new thing to want to make your parents happy. The main viewpoint is that you can't succeed in today's world without a degree of some sort. In the end parents want what's best for their kids and will drill those "facts" in until you go out into the world and find out what's best for yourself.
a_desert_creature 5y ago
Never argue with SJWs, it's not worth your time. Sometimes you'll find a gem that is open to a legitimate dialogue and won't start throwing ad hominem at you, but damn is it rare.
TheTrenTrannyTrain 6y ago
Yeah, wage gap is so real that public companies are fool not to hire all women crew to do men's jobs, since their profits would immediately shoot up. Ask them to write angry letters to their tempon manufacturers, lol
yomo86 5y ago
I'm not going to chime in how stupid feminism is but how stupid you are, as an echo chamber does not serve anybody. Go and read the 48 Laws of Power, go and read some material on how to get through life. You can make your stay at college an easy ride or you can play it tough 'n' rough. You did the later.
And while going against the grain is something most of us are prone to just try to see it as a reward system.
You pissed of half of your class solely for shits and giggles nothing more. If you had gained something that is dear to you or even remotely of use go for it, but this one was unnecessary and not very wise.
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turn20left 6y ago
He's 18 and just getting his feet wet in the world. Let it slide. At least he's here.
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steini1904 6y ago
Meh, it's got a Rant/Venting flair. I'm pretty damn far from being red pilled, but even I did know what to expect when I saw flair and title.
You don't have to click on it, you don't have ti waste your time reading it. It's not gonna get >100 upvotes and litter the top lists
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pohlrich 5y ago
mens biggest fear is ending up being manipulated and led on and frauded out of feelings, time, money and yes it is rape too when shes misled you and dumped you for another guy because "it just happened, sorry", we have the right to withdraw consent just like women do.
why do we all ignore men have a wage gap too. the majority of men are just as bad off as women, what skews the stats are managers who screw everyone over (they can be men or women). For example in a company with female staff at the top we can argue the wage gap exists against men, it has to because the top female managers skew the stats to create a wage gap in favour of women. So the question becomes should we falsely make a 50/50 quoter in top management the answer has to be yes, but if you want the company to survive management has to be based on merit not quoters.
Danteee_lm 5y ago
Learn what feminism is. Or at least call it "modern feminism" aka a "femimazi". Don't bother with changing these people's mind they are far 2 stupid it won't work.
I think what people forget is the AVERAGE IQ is 100 that means if you are slightly above average the majority of people are stupid...
If you read the sidebar of this sub you will find a YouTube video about how your brain acts when someone asks your opinion on a contrvesial topic like feminism. your subcontious Brain has already made it's decision, now your just trying to rationalise it. Also Dunning Kruger effect-- ignorance is bliss
VoidInvincible 6y ago
Bitch, then get the fuck off Tinder if you can't handle it. Fuckin cunts.
mrcs84usn 6y ago
Sounds like one of those classes where you ignore the teacher and just work on homework for other classes, and you could still pass with at least a B. Wanting students to be "well rounded" by requiring X humanities credits is the only reason that class hasn't been completely cut.
carnegierockefeller 5y ago
Take Shapiro's advice. Write like a liberal to get good grades, get the degree, and then when you're out of school use their degree against them.
BydandMathias 5y ago
This. This has been my philosophy throughout HS and college.
will_berttttt 6y ago
Wow you really cannot be anymore spot on.
logoscrvult 6y ago
My ex decided she wanted to study Political Science and at first I was so excited, finally I can talk to her about non-retarded shit.
My god... it was pre-RedPill days and at first I actually tried having conversations with her, if I mentioned anything critical of Islam, anything that contradicted her tumblr(she was legit addicted to tumblr) feminist stances she would REEEEE so hard.
At first I would be quite shocked, then I got enraged when she would start practically crying and saying something like "omg like who are you?".
Now I literally laugh my ass off remembering the temper tantrums and inability to have an discussion.
dinnerwithfunions 5y ago
Women can't handle politics. They have the logic and rationale of children. Discussing such things is like explaining the gruesome details of a murder scene in a horror movie to a 6 year old. The harsh realities and pragmatic decision making involved in politics is knowledge that not everyone can handle.
magx01 5y ago
Oh my god lol. This is so accurate and sad. They're just fundamentally retarded.
logoscrvult 5y ago
I just fucking wish i knew not to argue with them. Literal kindergarten.
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She was taught to hate folks like you.
logoscrvult 5y ago
I think I get it, but could you explain? Why hate, and guys like me?
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She hates you because you fail to embrace 100% of what feminism teaches. If you don't support them fully, you are part of the problem. You are perpetuating rape culture and inequality, etc. etc.
Alexinfinite01 5y ago
I like how none of those complaints they had were actually "rights" in any legal sense
GodOfDinosaurs 5y ago
Posts like these make me afraid TRP will just descend further into a right-wing circle jerk session. What does this have to do with sexual strategy and self-improvement? This post should be removed.
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Has to do with keeping frame under a stressful social situation, for example.
himsenior 5y ago
I agree - he did keep his frame if nothing else. But I also think it's safe to say OP is being disingenuous when he presents himself as innocently asking a question. He was being a provocateur. He admits he was expressing his frustration at the "idiotic" discussions and how he's felt he can never contribute. He's probably leaving out how they presented him with data as well, which in the moment the exchange is somewhat intractable on both sides. But rather than pursue his intellectual "curiosity" by examining their data and withholding a conclusion until he could address the data in his post, he simply wrote a rant about how he kept his cool while he was victimized.
Now, if it's true 6 different women started yelling at him at once, then obviously they acted out of line. But his willingness to label a multigenerational ideology with different flavors as "cancer" is as hyperbolic as when some feminists label TRP as cancer.
will_berttttt 5y ago
I said that stats are skewed on the gender gap based on education level and stay at home moms. They just said that there are other stats proving that wrong so I do not know how to counter that? What do you think
himsenior 5y ago
I actually think you're right about motherhood being a large factor in the pay gap. I also generally agree with Jordan Peterson that there will always be some discrepancies especially when you compare different occupations disproportionately represented by one gender or another. They might be right that if you control for those factors, there is still inequality. I honestly don't know the answer to that one. But the pay gap being due to motherhood or fatherhood still doesn't seem fair to me.
I think one way to shore up the gap is to compensate women (and men) with paid maternity/paternity leave. Companies could provide child care and that would help too. Companies have also figured out that they can easily incentive workers to work more than 40 hours in order to get the living wage, and that's not right in my opinion.
enkae7317 6y ago
Brah. Don't feed the femi trolls. Go to your classes, and do well. Take the class and pass. Get an A even. I took an upper-division women's studies class about gender stereotypes and roles. We focused primarily on how men were evil and women were vastly underrepresented in... just about every fucking thing out there.
Not to mention on the first day the professor asked the class a question of, "Who's a feminist here?" and literally 80-90% of the class raised their hands. I think I saw like 2 guys besides me keep their hands down. Regardless, the fact was I learned a LOT from the opposing view and it kind of allowed me to see from their point. I also had to do a final exam (essay format) and write 4 separate papers on womens rights. We stretched learning of the history of feminism back to the roots even.
Got an A in that class. Teacher loved my final presentation too (women inequality in sports). Was it one of the easiest A I've ever gotten? Well when your major is STEM-related it kind of was.
ColonelMitche1 5y ago
Inequality in sports? How did you not mention the fact that men are stronger/faster?
askmrcia 5y ago
He left that part out. Probably just made an essay on how Serena Williams and Alex Morgan are the most dominant athletes in their respective sports regardless of gender and they should be paid like Lebron James.
Sure Lebron is stronger, faster and all of that. But Serena Willams won x amount og grand slams while Lebron only won 3 finals. So yea Serena should be paid millions more and that my friend is inequality in sports. /s
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
I also took a sociology course like that. There is absolutely nothing to learn from the "opposing" viewpoint because it consists of either outright lies, historical falsifications or an outright lack of understanding of biology.
SirPenguins 5y ago
If we aren't all enlightened like you, perhaps what there is to learn is exactly what those falsehoods are. Then they can be defeated.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
The way OP wrote his post, made it seem like he agreed with the positions of the womans study course.
acidicbitchdotcom 5y ago
Nothing about what he wrote implied that, nor did he particularly mention any of the positions of the course itself.
Viramont 6y ago
What class is filled with the most SJWs? I want to get in these debates and blow everyone’s minds because I’m Mexican lol
What’s the worst that can happen if I go through with this?
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Liberals tell you you're a bad little pet minority and that you're on the wrong side. Because that's all minorities are to liberals, just pets that can vote
_PM_ME_YOUR_GOALS_ 5y ago
Double points if you're straight, male, and have a "white" vocabulary. A Hispanic ex-girlfriend of mine had people constantly calling her white in our majority-Hispanic high school because she would speak and write with an educated vocabulary. Stupidity does not appreciate logic.
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I_BET_UR_MAD 6y ago
"A girls biggest fear on tinder is being raped while a guy's biggest fear is the girl being fat"
First off you can tell she read that on Tumblr or some shit and is reciting it like a good little monkey.
Second, girls have the 80/20 rule in their favor so it's not like they're short on choices.
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for a lot of people, their political views are a new kind of religion and part of their identity. To question their political views is to question their own personal identity, and that's why they see that as a personal attack and get "deeply offended".
It's like telling a Jehovah Witness that you think the bible is bullshit, he'll get personally offended because they live and breathe their religion, it's part of their core self-identity. It's what you mean when SJWs say about "invalidating your existence" - they literally identify themselves with their beliefs (which is ridiculous because beliefs change all the time).
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jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
college is such a waste of fucking time. srsly..unless you're a CS or electrical engineering major its not worth it
EvieBeast 5y ago
can just learn that shit on youtube
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GuyComedy 6y ago
Maybe major colleges, but I like community colleges they benefit very well. Easy to get what you want (2 years max) unless you are going to transfer to a uc or state or whatever. Saves you a lot of money as well
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MGTOWFeminazi 6y ago
As an electrical engineering major this made me chuckle. But what about the mechanical and chemical engineering majors?
jewishsupremacist88 5y ago
not sure what the job market is like for ME/Ce's ..but i know an EE with coding skills can get a good job.
Anthro_DragonFerrite 6y ago
Also accountants, doctors, lawyers, teachers, dentists, surgeons, lab technicians, scientists, CEOs, marketing directors, human resource managers, architects
liberty1127 6y ago
You can be a ceo without going to college
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marku1 6y ago
tell them what they want to hear but do what is best for you
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It's community college..... If it was me I wouldn't give a fuck. I ain't scared of a bunch of fat white hoes.... & I'd argue & refute their points just to watch heads explode for my personal entertainment.
I_BET_UR_MAD 6y ago
It's doesn't work out, you end up arguing in 3 or 4 different directions at the same time because they all gang up. You have to be really quick witted to do it
ARRazvan 6y ago
I did that once in High School. Our teacher told us to make two teams and she chose one of us to be the judge. One of the team was the defense attorneys and the other team was the prosecutors. I was the leader of the defense. All this thing was about a novel in which the protagonist uses a woman for her wealth. She falls in love with him, he gets her pregnant so she would have to marry him and her land will be his (this novel was written in 1920, so different times). And eventually, the woman commits suicide because he doesn't love her, her father hates her, etc. And everyone in the prosecutors team said that he's responsible for her death. Also, they were all women obviously. My team was rather useless as I had to come up with all the arguments why the protagonist was innocent. They accused him of cheating, but he only did that after her death so it's not cheating, illogical stuff like that. The "prosecutors" were all over me with arguments, they even interrupted each other, not even me. I kept my cool and dealt with each one, one by one. It was an easy win. Definitely would do it again. (Sorry for some mistakes, English is not my native language)
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