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[-] uberrific 86 Points 11 months ago

I didn't want to make a new post for this, as I've read this story many times on TRP, but today I experienced it firsthand. I gave a blue pilled friend some RP advice, as his girl cheated on him and disrespected him in front of our entire group, and the first thing he did was tell his GF on me, just wow.

[-] untonyto 78 Points 11 months ago

The first rule of Fight Club...

[-] Veretox 26 Points 11 months ago

You only give someone RP advice, or even tell about your conquest if you want to see how fast will they use it against you. I told my brother about one of my plates, yesterday, he got mad at me, because he spent months texting his current girlfriend before he even got a kiss, while I met this girl on saturday and BJ closed the day after. Listen to older pals, don't be a magician who tells his secrets.

[-] TheEnglishman28 12 Points 11 months ago

Be that guy who smashes but never tells how you made it happen

[-] Veretox 3 Points 11 months ago

No one should even hear about it. It should just emanate/show in the way you walk. Like someone who just got laid.

[-] PM_ME_UR_1ITIS_SNAP 14 Points 11 months ago

Personally I carry around a Beats Pill playing "I Just Had Sex' by Akon at maximum volume.

[-] JPSYCHC 1 Point 11 months ago

Wait is this thread satire?

[-] ImmunosuppressedTau 24 Points 11 months ago

It's crazy how hard some people are plugged into their BP world.

My best-mate is going out with his gf now for a year and a half. He plans on moving away with her next year. All she offers is her pussy. Brings nothing else to the table. Cant cook or clean. He totally over values her. He doesn't see her true self when she accidentally shows it. She gets 'headaches' all the time and makes up bullshit to control him. But he doesn't see it. Ive tried to point stuff out to him but he's hooked. He starts to think of me as the bad guy every time I mention her. I don't mention her anymore. It's the way of the world.

[-] EPArt 9 Points 11 months ago

Fuck his GF that will teach him.

[-] Kensei91 5 Points 11 months ago

Nah, BP guy will hate the dude and probably forgive his GF's hamster. not worth it IMO...

[-] ElijahBurningWoods 5 Points 11 months ago

Some guys are just not ready to be unplugged, some never will.

[-] satanicpriest13 2 Points 11 months ago

Most people can't be saved. One of my friends is so beta, he got taken for a ride by the same club thot 3 times this week, and hes still chasing her. Lost money and respect. We work in the DJ business. So he can get any girl he wants but he ruins it by being a nice guy.

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[-] oholandesvoador 50 Points 11 months ago

Have you guys seen that AskReddit thread where the topic is what women preffer on men that we don't know?

There was a comment where some girl said she preffer her men to not be confident all the time and open up about his insecurities. Needless to say that almost all replies were from men that had oppened up and their girls lost all atraction to them.

Funny that even blue pilleds guys already know about this.

[-] ManguZa 18 Points 11 months ago

Well women like when men talk about their emotions sometimes because it show they are stronger than them (emotions) and that they value them (women).

But only if there are no doubt ever about it's Alphaness and his confidence.

[-] antoniofelicemunro 3 Points 11 months ago

The way you just put it really clarified an issue I had in my past relationship. I've always had trouble opening up because of my past, but after dating a girl for a year, you have no choice. Turns out when I did start to open up, she didn't actually care. I was major blue pill at that time, but I ended things, and I've learned when to open up, and when not to. I've also learned not to put my emotional well-being into the hands of another.

[-] pragmatic_nihilist 3 Points 11 months ago

I agree with this. It takes a little investment to get good return. nothing wrong with the good feels (be happy yo), but know that bitch has got an Uber on the way too

[-] dingleburry_joe 2 Points 11 months ago

care to elaborate on this. I though it wasn't good to talk about how you feel and emotions.

[-] ManguZa 5 Points 11 months ago

Well, usually it's not.

Most men must learn to talk less about their emotions, and increase Alpha features.

Also because we're not focus on LTR here, and no point to talk about emotion in that context.

But in a LTR, when you have already work a max on your Alphaness, it's positive to sometimes show your emotions in a self confidence way.

[-] alxjones 1 Point 11 months ago

saw a post on RPW talking about how she likes her men pudgy.... still working that one out (no pun intended)

[-] PTPunk 31 Points 11 months ago

I'm admittedly new to the RP, but I must say the biggest hurdle I encounter is actual conversation. It's my biggest weakness and if I don't know a person reasonably well, it seems I can't for the life of me find a suitable subject to fill the awkward silences (without it being too formal of a conversation). Just nothing comes to my mind. Any advice on bettering my conversational skills? Or even random shit to say to stranger girls I encounter? Stuff you use? I'm guessing random cold approaches to as many people as possible and just turning my "filter" off. Easier said than done, though. Feel free to share your insight.

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[-] TheEnglishman28 10 Points 11 months ago

Use TOUCH when silence happens at the right moments. Actions really do say a lot more than words ever will.

[-] [deleted] 13 Points 11 months ago

Smile and flow, default to a story you have told 1000 times.

[-] person8445 10 Points 11 months ago

I would read how to win friends and influence people + another which i forget the name, something like '92 ways to talk'

[-] jackie_o 1 Point 11 months ago

How to talk to Anyone: 92 Little Tricks for Big Success in Relationships

I've only read the sample but even that has good tips.

[-] Fulp_Piction 8 Points 11 months ago

Why are you trying to fill awkward silences? Who says they're awkward? Be the prize to be impressed, kid. Your reality is the dominant reality, if you think it will be awkward then it will be. If you think it's fine it'll be fine.

If you relax and accept that discomfort the other person will usually say something. If you assume that you're the one to be impressed then you'll do well.

[-] AwkwardEmpath 1 Point 11 months ago

I really like this response. When I'm doing well and focused on my mission, I don't feel awkward in these situations, I don't feel obligated to change it or care if the other person is feeling awkward.

[-] Fulp_Piction 2 Points 11 months ago

It's straight from the book of pook. Check it out, it cuts through a lot of the bullshit surrounding 'game'. Goldmine for inner game.

[-] SquareCounterculture 7 Points 11 months ago

Get ready for everyone to dodge your question. I never really see this one get answered.

[-] MaliciousMack 5 Points 11 months ago

I had the same problem growing up. I'd reccomend playing off your environment for conversation. Say you are at a bar, take a look at the people around, and find something noteworthy or amusing. You can sometimes point that out for a laugh, and create a kind of us vs them with the girl.

Not a guarantee to work, but it can show a level of perceptiveness with you having to say it.

[-] one_more_iteration 19 Points 11 months ago

I often read stories about a guy fucking multiple girls from one group of friends, but how to put it in practice? It just seems so far fetched, considering the drama that can come from just dealing with one girl. I've recently made friends with 5 girls, all very fuckable, all throwing hints at me. My plan is to knock down the one that I met initially, even though she's a bit lower on the scale than the rest.

Is it possible to have a clean break with one and move onto another? Do I just have to be so good at sex the first one recommends me to another?

[-] 187oddfuture 28 Points 11 months ago

I guess you should dick down the first one, and if you do it right she’ll obviously tell her friends. By holding frame and remaining open to any other advances/hints, you could possibly get some of the friends as well. Try to ONS/plate as many of them as possible but the key here is to hold the mentality that they’re disposable if not already gone. Don’t expect to be friends with these girls if you pursue banging them, very likely won’t happen. Just chance it and see what happens, then move on. Best of luck.

[-] Veretox 2 Points 11 months ago

Well, why would he even want to be friends with this group of hot chicks. Unless a girl does some fun manly shit to do together, like quad racing, or drifting on a track, I consider them only ONS material.

[-] 187oddfuture 4 Points 11 months ago

True. But he seems to have reservations about trying to smash as many of them as possible, implying he wants some other relationship afterwards. Just go in for the kill and stay outcome independent.

[-] [deleted] 10 Points 11 months ago

If you decide to go the multi plate game I recommended being completely unashamed and honest about your lifestyle but communicate that through your actions.

[-] Lkeacentipede 6 Points 11 months ago

I happened to me a week ago.To be honest, you have to be pretty lucky.It's the first time a girl I'm friend with benefits with got barely emotional invested.Also her friend which I am banging was in a 2 year relationship and her ex wasn't fulfilling any of her fantasies, they were barely having any sex at all

My advice, be sexual with every friend of your plate you have the opportunity to.Talk about threesomes, compliment their asses, tell them you'd like to see them licking your chick or vice versa.Beware the risk of loosing your current one though

[-] MattyAnon 3 Points 11 months ago

It just seems so far fetched, considering the drama that can come from just dealing with one girl.

Can be done. Done it. And I don't do drama. And that's the point... I just don't do drama. They pull crazy shit and I walk and they know it. I don't even let it start, I just walk away or end the conversation.

Is it possible to have a clean break with one and move onto another?

Yes, but it won't be clean. Ignore the fallout.

Do I just have to be so good at sex the first one recommends me to another?

That helps :)

[-] daymi 1 Point 11 months ago

I often read stories about a guy fucking multiple girls from one group of friends, but how to put it in practice? [...] Is it possible to have a clean break with one and move onto another?

It depends on how you frame it.

Just hint on how sex is the most natural thing in the world and say "men and women eventually end up doing it anyway" nonchalantly. It will make it clear that you are not a clinger, and that you won't tolerate her being a clinger either. After you did have sex with one, don't tell the others (or anyone). She'll gossip anyway and eventually one of the others will take you to the side and ask whether you had sex with X (usually they have to be drunk). You of course answer "Sorry, I can't tell you. I have to talk to X first". Now she knows that you can shut the fuck up, and that you had sex with X (they are not stupid). Now she's getting curious. Proceed to having sex with her, too.

If they ask whether you are still having sex with the other girl, deflect or ignore.

This works multiple times. They themselves are in competition - so while sometimes they can't help themselves, usually they don't make it too obvious that you did it together.

Note: They'll try relationship things (mate guarding etc) pretty quickly - so be sure to clarify immediately once they try.

[-] Rgfnd 19 Points 11 months ago

I’ve seen this on the forum lately: what does she offer other than her body/sex? Apart from cooking, cleaning and generally submissive behaviour/deference to my frame, what else should I be looking for?

Emotional support, companionship should NOT be sought from plates/LTRs right? Wouldn’t that imply LOSING frame, abundance mentality/IDGAF and the ability walk away?

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Some of them are fun to be around

[-] womans_algorithm 13 Points 11 months ago

Someone you are generally compatible with, someone you get along well, and are making each others life better. If you feel your life is better, than I think that's it. You will learn as you go with it.

[-] [deleted] 7 Points 11 months ago

Get emotional support from male friends.

Don't be so black/white though. A lot of women are cool and fun to hang out with. Find one with shared interests and you can enjoy things together besides sex.

[-] ManguZa 5 Points 11 months ago

They can offer support by themself.

[-] 187oddfuture 5 Points 11 months ago

You get emotional support from your boys, she gets emotional support from you. You are her rock, her Oak, that is unshaken and undisturbed no matter what bullshit she or life throws at you. She cries on your shoulder, not the other way around.

[-] MattyAnon 3 Points 11 months ago

Emotional support, companionship should NOT be sought from plates/LTRs right?

Not from anyone, and especially not from women or a LTR. If you can get some from a FWB then fine - it doesn't matter if you kill attraction there because you have multiple and can go elsewhere for sex when she isn't in the mood due to your needy behaviour.

[-] MaliciousMack 2 Points 11 months ago

Can be if you don't pay attention. But it's just the concept of rewarding good behavior. You may be able to upgrade those worthy, but be prepared should things go south.

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[-] PlatoTheWrestler 12 Points 11 months ago

Can anyone point me to some good posts about spinning multiple plates? I finally have a few going and it's overwhelming.

[-] MentORPHEUS 6 Points 11 months ago

The Black Dragon Blog is a great resource for multiple relationships, as is the "More than Two" website.

This post looks back on some of my own trials and tribulations. Yes, you CAN have too many women at once!

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[-] markinsinz7 12 Points 11 months ago

It's best to keep ur plates/female social circle seperate unless u have no problem when the new guy scores one of ur plates or watever(which is what trp preaches but is extremely hard in practice)

Meaning, your relative status of having all these girls with u boosts ur smv but if a guy with better frame/socialskills/physicaldominance joins in it is likely u will lose interest from the girls.

Best advice is you go on ur own mission develop a skill or position of influence that allows u to be valuable to groups then put urself out there - if u really must have some guy frens, ive found its best to have guys in LTR as ur friends but should be beta in nature.

I've not seen or heard 2 equal alphas stay tight too long they both end up doin their own thing. All the celebs u know, the CEOs they all truly stand alone, people follow them. Be that guy.

[-] dontuseliqui 1 Point 11 months ago

if u really must have some guy fren

Every man should have guy "frens" first, plates second.

[-] markinsinz7 1 Point 11 months ago

True but I was referin in this context whereby a guy has a line of plates he doesn't necessarily need to go around chasing male friendships. I've noticed lot of ego issues surrounding friendships today basically where it's about who needs who sort of thing.

Take for eg a celeb like Chris Brown he loves his bros in his entourage but not one of his bros would fuck him over or take a girl that CB likes or etc but put Chris next to Kanye or whatever and now they on the same level so ego doesn't come into play and it's mutual respect.

Things don't always go this way but I've observed all close friendships these underlying dynamics r at play and do influence results/outcomes/social situations etc

[-] Fulp_Piction 4 Points 11 months ago

Be a guy. Do guy stuff. Join a sports team or martial arts. Don't try to hard, don't care what people think, just be natural about it.

[-] CHEMAJOR 11 Points 11 months ago

For those who have read No More Mr. Nice Guy, who were your safe people?

[-] womans_algorithm 4 Points 11 months ago

I didn't have one. Thinking about it, realizing my mistakes was enough for me to change my behavior.

[-] Kurush559 3 Points 11 months ago

realistically, do you need one? do you really? if so, a trusted male family member/friend

[-] airmcnair06 2 Points 11 months ago

I have read it twice. As someone who went monk mode AND move across the country to a place I didn't know anyone, I haven't found any safe people either. I do believe it would make the process a lot easier, as the book states, but for me I don't feel I trust anyone right now, after learning so many rp truths.

[-] _A_L_3_X_ 11 Points 11 months ago

one thing ive really womdered,

has anyones music taste changed since swallowing the pill?

[-] yilong899 29 Points 11 months ago

Yeah. I stopped listening to linkin park.

[-] one_more_iteration 18 Points 11 months ago

Pretty much strictly hiphop now. They are naturally redpilled and no one gives them shit for it because ~minority~

[-] _A_L_3_X_ 6 Points 11 months ago

ive always listened to hip hop. escpecially the polish 2000s hip hop is the best.

[-] Kurush559 13 Points 11 months ago

I pick up on more BP themes in music nowadays, but I still appreciate some musicians on an artistic level irrespective of the sentiment

[-] ceqozesah 10 Points 11 months ago

90% of music is blue pill . songs are still catchy but

[-] Trooper_1868 3 Points 11 months ago

a lot of edm involves no words. Easy to listen to for the beats. hip hop is good these days.

[-] _A_L_3_X_ 3 Points 11 months ago

so youre saying you dont listen to pop?

[-] airmcnair06 4 Points 11 months ago

Yea. I didn't realize how much of the R&B I like and consider classic music, is a bunch of whiny bitch ass dudes who "can't live without their women" that left them. Never realized just how important the music you listen to can be for your psyche... As I stop listening to that soft ass, I need you type of music (which I most certainly liked because my sisters and mother listened to it and other women liked it) , I find myself much less dependent on women.

[-] MaliciousMack 1 Point 11 months ago

I'm mainly into rap or hip hop. But nowadays I've expanded through many genres. Easy to enjoy some country when you don't care what others think.

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[-] UniversalFapture 8 Points 11 months ago

Do to school and work, I haven’t lifted in about 2 months and I’ve lost all of my energy. Is all my progress gone?

[-] 187oddfuture 16 Points 11 months ago

Stronglifts 5x5 30-60 minutes 3 times a week will get you results. No excuses.

[-] UniversalFapture 5 Points 11 months ago

Thnx. Can I do that shit forever?

[-] MarcosDomingues 3 Points 11 months ago

Do it until your linear progression stops, which means starting with light weights and gradually adding load to each exercise each day until you plateau. If you plateau, try again the same weights next workout. If you fail again too, move on to some intermediate program.

[-] UniversalFapture 1 Point 11 months ago

How do I know if i plagued exactly? And that I’m Not just rushing things ?

[-] 187oddfuture 1 Point 11 months ago

If you can’t do the next weight for two workouts in a a row (say, squat 180 or whatever) then you’ve plateaued. Just do the previous weight you could do again for one or two workouts and then try to add weight.

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[-] 187oddfuture 1 Point 11 months ago

Ideally you shouldn’t start an “intermediate” program until you can do some big weight. If you start from the base, you’ll probably be on stronglifts from 9 months to a year

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[-] ethansight 1 Point 11 months ago

Just started stronglifts last week, always nice to hear it mentioned around. The first few days are the worst doing squats with like 2.5 on each side and dying XD

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No but there's not way school and work are THAT busy that you can't find time to lift.

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[-] AHumilationADay 1 Point 11 months ago

Yes and no. Yes if you let your progress falter. You've likely lost a good amount of muscle strength, but you can regain that. The real energy and process comes from the rhetoric behind it. Do you give a shit about progress and moving forward?

If not, force yourself to, you'll get it back after a couple lifts and self reflection.

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[-] Lousycabbage 6 Points 11 months ago

I plated a girl while I visited a town a couple of months ago. She used to message me but I stopped because I didn't want to give her validation over the phone. I'm visiting town again this weekend. Any tips on re-initiating without looking needy?

[-] MentORPHEUS 11 Points 11 months ago

I've had multi-year part time plates that spanned several relationships each of us had, with pauses and breaks in our own action as these happened. During "off" times we'd platonically chat casually and very occasionally, as in twice a week or month at most, just to keep it warm on the back burner. BOTH parties were tacitly aware of the nature of the situation; we were able to turn the sex part of our relationship on and off like a switch and did so many times over the years. This will not work if either party is jealous or possessive.

Bottom line: intermittent plates can thrive on little contact, but there exists a sweet spot between nothing and it going cold, and too much squeeze for the juice you're getting.

[-] [deleted] 7 Points 11 months ago

Hey "girl" just thought I'd give you a heads up that I'll be in your area this weekend. Let me know if you want to get together and I'll make time for you.

Then forget that you sent the message. If she bites, cool, if not, cool. Because it doesn't matter to you.

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[-] mxrunner 6 Points 11 months ago

I have thing going with just one plate atm (broke with a GF after LTR) and have just discovered TRP.

I was wondering how you guys proceed after LMR? I said "yeah, we are only going to do what we both desire" (saw that line here and it stuck with me). But after that I was out, I couldn't proceed or didn't know how to proceed.

[-] MattyAnon 2 Points 11 months ago

After LMR? Well, date her again but this time provide less.

[-] mxrunner 1 Point 11 months ago

What do you mean with provide less? Specifically?

[-] MattyAnon 3 Points 11 months ago

Don't pay, don't listen to her, don't let her lead, don't be an emotional tampon.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 11 months ago

You need multiple plates bro. That's how LMR doesn't even matter because you just say "ok cool, well I'm going to bed. Bye" - or some other excuse, then set up a time to fuck another plate and go do something productive / for you in the mean time.

[-] mxrunner 1 Point 11 months ago

Thanks for the reply. So, I will be working on acquiring new plates, cuz I'm overstressing this too much.

[-] FarOrAMess 5 Points 11 months ago

I recently moved to a big city for the first time ever.

I have a few friends here, but most of them are either bloopers or in a relationship so I don't really have anyone to explore the city with that I personally know.

I tried going out by myself to this bar yesterday, and since the place was unexpectedly empty, I ended up not really approaching anyone.

Should I just keep on going solo until something sticks? Do you guys have any better idea of getting myself to develop a more vibrant social & sexual lifestyle? I'm already spinning a plate from here but that could break any minute.

Also, I should make a disclaimer that this is not in the US, and it's probably one of the best cities in the world for nightlife.

[-] AHumilationADay 10 Points 11 months ago

Several points to make:

  1. I get empty bars suck. However, your willingness to open anyone is what'll really push you forward. Even in a shit case like that, use it to prep yourself. Go out to have fun, make friends, and get yourself in a social mood. Even if there isn't really a rotation to another bar in line, if you're going out to have fun, you can only win.

  2. Going out solo is really only productive with proper mindset. If you just have tunnel vision on getting laid, long story short, you're gonna have a bad time, and it's going to reflect in your 'aura.'

  3. Adding to your social life is easy, following you adhere to 1 and 2. Otherwise, the standard response, do more shit. If you live in a big city, you're fucking much better of than me and some other guys here out in the sticks. Take classes that interest you (dance lessons, group hikes/bikes, programming, whatever interests you). Be out more, check out free shit like live music or some monument, take walks around your local park, and open EVERYONE.
[-] theoracleofbromaha 3 Points 11 months ago

Solid advice here. To add I was in this exact same situation 6 months ago. DO NOT GO OUT ALONE IF YOUR GONNA DRINK. The worst thing you can do if your riding solo is getting hammered, makes you look really weird and creepy. Try to go out to venues that encourage talking, i.e you won’t meet at HB8 at a craft brewery but you might meet an HB4 and you can bet your ass off if you befriend her as the new guy in the city you’ll meet the friends quickly. Use Network with people in your career industry. If all else fails, hit the gym. Your bound to meet someone eventually if your at the gym consistently.

[-] FarOrAMess 1 Point 11 months ago

Lmao it was happy hour so i just kinda had 2 beers and once i felt drunk i bailed because i felt like that weird creepy guy you mentioned. Thats def a lesson learned

[-] FarOrAMess 1 Point 11 months ago

Solid advice. I'm already a musician so I use that to fill my schedule whenever I'm free. But once I'm done it's like "what now?".

What would you say is a place that encourages talking?

[-] 187oddfuture 4 Points 11 months ago

Try to make friends at work if you can, really easy way to meet people. Just don’t fuck your coworkers.

[-] FarOrAMess 1 Point 11 months ago

Already got some, but they all have been in the city for a while and don't really seem to care for the 'new guy wanting to experience shit', so we just kinda hang out every now and then. Its ok for now but again, not nearly as vibrant as I'm aiming for.

[-] shmanny007 3 Points 11 months ago

I'm in a peculiar situation. The short version is I started out as a drug addicted loser who worked at walmart and lived at home with his alcoholic dad before swallowing the pill. After becoming RP, I got in shape, read tons of books and taught myself how to write computer code which landed me an upper five figure job. I also managed to start dating a solid 9/10 while being quite average looking myself. The problem is I got caught up in the emotional rush of my success(my RP journey was about 4-5 years in the making and all of the aforementioned accomplishments happened in the last 6 months or so) and this chick managed to convince me to move in with her to get away from my dad(I couldn't get my own place due to poor credit). Also should mention she ended up landing a job at the same company as me. Long story short, we broke up and now she's banging some other chad in our office. I can't get out of this lease and I can't get out of this job. I know I can bounce back but trying to hold it together in this situation is becoming the most mentally exhausting thing I've ever had to deal with. Any tips on keeping it together as I try to rebuild myself? I'm finding it hard to get out and approach with these distractions constantly in my face at home and work. My condo is in an upscale neighborhood in a city known for attractive women so if I can just get myself focused, I know I can turn this situation around. EDIT: Also looking for tips on how to establish social connections while in a new city.

[-] ManguZa 3 Points 11 months ago

Try How-Friends-Influence-People-Digital

You don't have to get out and approach if you're mentally exhausted. Focus for a while on self development.

[-] AwkwardEmpath 1 Point 11 months ago

I know it's not as simple as learning code and boom 5 figure job, but I feel I'm in a similar situation of the start of your rp journey. I was wondering which code you taught yourself and maybe a bit of how you went about it or some tips. I've been thinking of teaching myself code for awhile because I want to get out of retail hell.

[-] shmanny007 1 Point 11 months ago

I, too, was in retail hell. When i’m eligible to do so, i’d like to do a proper write up but basically i began with the very basics of writing code and utilized as many free/cheap resources as I could(treehouse/udemy/etc.). After several months of doing this, I enrolled in a local web development bootcamp using money I had saved from working at Walmart and driving an Uber. Its important to note that I had no intention of paying for a boot camp initially. I simply did it for the networking opportunities with local tech companies. If you do plan on going the bootcamp route, be sure to pick one that has some type of job placement assistance or at least gives you access to networking events. (It is technically possible to land a job without attending a bootcamp if you train yourself well enough while also building a rock solid portfolio. ) Once you’re competent enough to build a basic app, you MUST network like crazy. Its just like learning game. You have to put yourself in front of as many tech people as possible and engage in conversation. If you’re well trained and know how to speak the language, then people will respect you. The networking phase will also test/train your communication skills. You should also compete in any local hackathons in your area. In my case, I got a job at the bootcamp I studied at as a teaching assistant. I’d TA in the mornings and spend the afternoons/evenings making as many contacts as possible. You should also go out of your way to teach others when you can. Eventually, someone I had tutored along with a contact I met at a local bar both put in a good word for me at a local tech company and I was able to land an interview. Theres probably some things I’m leaving out here but feel free to pick my brain or ask me any questions. Don’t EVER quit and, when you do succeed, don’t get distracted by your success and break frame like I did. Good luck on your journey.

[-] AwkwardEmpath 1 Point 11 months ago

I really appreciate the reply man. By basics of coding, what do you mean specifically? If the free services are an example, I definitely plan on checking them out. Any other tips for teaching yourself that you can think of? Perhaps looking back is there anything you wish you did differently? I work 45hrs a week, I'm going to try to discipline myself to learn at least 2 hrs 5 times a week minimum. Again, I appreciate the advice, I'm wasting away making way less money then I believe that I'm worth in retail and I've always been very computer literate so I think coding might be a decent path for me.

[-] shmanny007 3 Points 11 months ago

By basics of coding, I mean understanding the basics of any programming language(i.e. strings, ints, loops conditionals, OOP, etc.). If there is one thing I would have done differently it would be sticking to one technology stack and learning it very well versus jumping around to several different technologies and spreading myself too thin. For example, building a full stack javascript app and making improvements to it over time before putting it on your portfolio would be a lot more valuable then just mindlessly doing courses without any solid projects to reflect what you actually know. If you do commit to this journey, understand that youre going to have to work VERY hard. Make sure you actually enjoy what you’re doing as this is a career where you will constantly be learning new things both inside and outside work to keep yourself relevant. As far as discipline goes, I would wake up at 430am every morning, lift weights then come home and code for bit before work then immediately jump right back on it when my shift ended. Its important to establish a rigorous routine like this and stick with it if you wish to be successful. There are going to be times where you will feel mentally drained and exhausted and you will want to quit and give up but DO NOT give in to these inner voices. Even after the boot camp ended, a lot of kids from my class didn’t receive job offers right away and became discouraged before eventually giving up and going back to whatever they were doing before. Don’t be one of these people. If you truly put in the work, you will see results.

****as a side note, try and fit some type of physical exercise into your life if youre not already. The tech world is filled with betas and I found being one of the few dudes who could actually lift helped me dominate social situations during the networking phase of my journey. Ironically, it also helped me bang the attractive girl that I met during that same networking phase which led to my demise but I digress...

[-] AwkwardEmpath 1 Point 11 months ago

Thanks for the advice, I will consider all of it. I might save this comment and come back at some point to pick your brain if you don't mind.

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I’m in a summer college program where all the students hang out all the time and are pretty close, there are about 100 of us. Last weekend I had sex with one of the girls in the group, everyone suspects but they don’t know.

So you just described every college in North America.

How do you guys think I should procede at this event? Who should I ignore and who should I lead on to maximize my total success this summer? Any help is appreciated!

You're cool right? Just be cool, you don't have to ignore anyone. If you're cool and interesting, you have to figure your shit out. Also, girl 2 isn't going to NOT fuck you bc girl 1 did. Quite the opposite.

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[-] Mr-Ed209 3 Points 11 months ago

Hold your ground and explain the 'facts of life to her' if you have to. That this guy wants to fuck her, you know it and if she is honest with herself she knows it as well. Make it known (through your actions) that you will be ready to walk away unfazed if she doesn't tow the line more.

Most important, is that you say none of this as a threat. You just explain your position righteously and make her aware of the consequences if anything were to 'just happen'.

[-] airmcnair06 2 Points 11 months ago

Yes. It does come off as insecure and beta. Because it is. If she is hanging out with another guy and she most likely knows you're not cool with this, then she is not ltr material. She should've been nexted the moment she decided it was a good idea to spend time with another guy alone. Women who put themselves in positions like this (being alone with another man) are not as naive as they want you to believe. It's called plausible deniability and women are AMAZING at it.

Don't be naive. "Dinner" could literally mean oral sex to a woman's hamster mind. And Because technically something was eaten (pussy) , she will actually believe in her mind that she told you the truth about what happened. Seriously. If that last sentence made you sick to your stomach, at the thought of it, then your rp eyes have not been opened yet enough. I know you'll probably think I'm going too far with the assumptions, but I've seen it time and time again. I moved to Vegas 2 yrs ago and it's been eye opening for sure.

Did she start meeting this guy within a week of being home? Then yea... He's more than a friend. Sorry to say. I understand you won't want to hear any of this and may reject it due to BP tendencies, but you already lost frame by fighting with her about it. If you were secure in your relationship and trust for her, you wouldn't care that she met this guy and been like "cool" when she mentioned the dinner and kept it moving. But "trying to shit this shit down" is drying her pussy up so fast that it's not even funny.

By bringing it up and being confrontational about it, all you're doing is showing her (subconsciously) that you are more invested in her than she is in you. Which is when things start going downhill. The moment a woman thinks she is more valuable than you, you have already lost. You may as well hit the rest button. when's the last time she felt jealous of other girls checking you out or seeing you get attention from other girls? If this doesn't happen often, she could be losing those tingles.

[-] PoppinChlorine 2 Points 11 months ago

One of my female friends is in a bad spot right now after being dumped an hour ago and i really want to be there for here right now but would that be considered being an emotional tampon? I don’t really have any interest in her sexually but am i just lying to myself if i say that but i still want to be there for her? And does that mean i shouldn’t help her get through this? I’m trying to swallow the red pill so is this a behavior i meed to cut out? That would be hard. I need some advice. Quickly. All help is appreciated

[-] rand0mdev 2 Points 11 months ago

TL;DR: I have the chance to plate a married girl, yet I’m hesitating and I’m not sure if that is because she will only be the second girl I’ll have sex with in my life, because I don’t really have feelings for her (Beta conditioning, I am aware) or because she is fucking married and has a child (AWALT, holy shit it is true) although she already told me that her relationship is as good as over.

24M here. My LTR of ~7.5 years ended about 3 months ago, I found TRP shortly after and started recognising my problems. Really started digging into TRP theory/sidebar material and focusing more on my goals and happiness in general. Met a ton of new people and actually having the best time of my life. So last weekend I went to a festival with my friends and eventually ran into an ex-colleague, he was there with a girl and during our conversation I asked him if he had already done something with her (I know he was into her for a long time). He told me no because she is now married and has a child. Had some fun with both of them and then went back to my friends.

Anyway, that same girl added me on social media directly after the festival, next day she started talking to me. I Told her I was at the festival again and she almost directly came over with my ex-colleague. After they found me she started giving me a lot of IOIs. At some point she said something about sucking hard (she was implying 8-ball pool) and I told her I only allow that after the second date, which she found hilarious. Fast-forward to the end of the festival, I walk to the end of the terrain with my arm around her and at the end told her I was leaving for some afterparty drinks at my friends house. Hugged her goodbye to which she responded with ‘Is that everything? This is already the second date..” So I decided, fuck it, kissed her and then left to have fun with my friends. Ever since that kiss she wants to meet and come over to my place (she specifically said bed instead of place).

I’m not sure if I want to proceed with this and I’m kind of struggling to find out why that is. I feel like it’s a combination of her being only the second girl I can fuck in my life, she being married and me being a beta bitch. What would you advice, leave it be or fuck it and have some fun?

[-] IvyExcess 3 Points 11 months ago

For you, at this point, experience is the most important thing you can gain. Dive in head first and see how it goes, take notes from your new perspective, and don't be afraid to fuck it up cause this chick ain't anything but a playtoy. Don't you dare ever buy her anything.

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I'd leave the married ones alone. She is the lowest of the low. Aside from that, if the hubs finds out, he might try to kill you. You never know what may happen when a bluepiller finds out his unicorn has been giving other cowboys free rides.

If they aren't living together due to separation......beat it up. If he's at home thinking shes his angel....stay far away for your own safety.

[-] TheVulgarHunter 2 Points 11 months ago

Is doing bodyweight fitness over lifting weights much less effective overall?

I currently do bodyweight exercises as I have a lack of free time and can do a good workout in my home.

I am looking at good ways to increase my test naturally atm though, so if lifting is a substantial amount better im willing to change.

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It's not comparable. Anyone who tells you different is selling you shit.

Squats. Deadlifts. Pull ups. Bench Press. Shoulder press.

These 5 movements with heavy weight are the foundation to developing the kind of body described here. Not pushups and situps and bodyweight lunges.

[-] Throwaway-242424 1 Point 11 months ago

Weights allow you an easily adjustable and functionally unlimited level of resistance.

Most bodyweight exercises cap out with resistance too light for optimal strength and size gains, and increasing resistance further generally requires more technical lifts and large jumps in your resistance curve.

Also you simply can't replicate the lower body/posterior chain activation of heavy squats and deadlifts with bodyweight stuff.

[-] PM_me_starwars 2 Points 11 months ago

Got rejected by Girl best friend. She already has a BF, She still wants to be friends, I also wants to be friends with her. And I don't blame her for rejection, I am fat. Now working on myself. Any advice

[-] Eap123RP 6 Points 11 months ago

Ugh, I've been in that situation before. It honestly depends on how awkward the situation was between you two after the rejection, but I wouldn't recommend getting close to her because from the limited way you describe your situation, it sounds like she wants you to orbit her. Girls don't really respect those type of guys. Also, no offense, your reaction to her rejection sounds kinda beta. I take it that you're new to TRP and you want to improve.

You need to lose the fat and gain the muscle. Then go after the "single" women who won't friendzone you like that.

[-] 187oddfuture 5 Points 11 months ago

His reaction isn’t “Kinda Beta”. It’s the definition of beta. To Beta: why are you posting in AskTRP about the most basic and telling Beta situation you could find yourself in? Have you even begun to read any of the sidebar, or the intro information? Turbo Beta to the max.

  1. You should not have a female best friend. You are her chief orbiter. She uses you as her emotional tampon every time her boyfriend pisses her off expecting her to spread her legs after you tell her how great she is. Never going to happen. Downgrade her in your life.
  2. Talk to the iron. Lift. Can’t say it enough. Read any of the posts in TRP and you’ll see this again and again. FUCKING LIFT. Get yourself in shape and sorted out before you try and get girls.
  3. Get some male friends. They should be your support, not some chick. Chicks don’t even get themselves, how do you expect them to help you?
[-] PM_me_starwars 1 Point 11 months ago

With point No.1 you really hit the hammer on the head. I initially had no feelings for her then she started telling sob stories about her BF not treating her well. That led me to sympathies with her and I fell for her. Now I get it she is using me for validation. i don't want to give her validation but thing is we have been friends for 6 years and I don't want to end that friendship either. So, How is it possible to not give her validation and still be friends ?

Point 2 -- > See, I am really working on it. I already lost 12 pounds and i am determined to achieve my goal.

Point 3 --> I will for sure now :)

Point 4 --> I am reading it , halfway through it. I also read Models, Now Reading 3% man and 48 laws of Power

[-] 187oddfuture 3 Points 11 months ago

On point 1: don’t let her sob to you. Tell her that you want to be friends but won’t tolerate listening to her problems, that’s for her girl friends, not you. Tell her you either enjoy spending time together as people or not at all. You’ll find out really quick if she likes you as a “friend” or if she was just happy with a chief orbiter.

[-] PM_me_starwars 1 Point 11 months ago

Ok I will do that. We don't meet now but talk over text. But I feel I am constantly giving her validation. I don't know what to do :/

[-] 187oddfuture 1 Point 11 months ago

Drop and move on? People come in and out of your life. That’s just how it is. Just ghost and she’ll either cave and come back or just go her own way.

[-] PM_me_starwars 1 Point 11 months ago

She is very close friend. And she has a BF, I think I need her more than she needs me right now.

[-] PM_me_starwars 0 Points 11 months ago

See, I don't mind her rejection because she is already with someone else. Yeah it was painful ,it still is but I feel i can't do anything about it. Because I feel i have nothing to offer her. Can you tell how can i gain her respect ? :)

[-] AHumilationADay 4 Points 11 months ago

I don't know the entirety of the circumstances, but I'm giving it a hard next. Ljbf typically means you're just an orbiter to be used to validate/provide for her in some manner.

It sounds like your frame isn't in the right position. Read the sidebar.

[-] PM_me_starwars 1 Point 11 months ago

Yeah , I guess you are right I might just be an orbiter. But i will also add that we have been friends for 6 years , it might also be a factor I guess.

I agree my frame is not in right position because I think am fat and ugly. I just have a good sense of humor.

So what should I do ? I don't want to give her validation but I also don't want to ruin our friendship.

[-] AHumilationADay 2 Points 11 months ago

Eh. You're in a weird spot... work on yourself first and foremost. You think you're fat, fix it. Think you're ugly, fix it and move past what you can't fix. That should be the number 1, 2, and 3 priority. As far as she goes... my personal opinion is you're holding on thinking after you have your metamorphosis, she'll come to you. It don't work like that. So, out of respect for you, I'm not going to advise you on that topic. Get to a good point, and somewhere down the line, you'll realize she doesn't matter. It's a jagged pill right now, but better swallowed than left alone.

[-] PM_me_starwars 1 Point 11 months ago

I know my metamorphosis will not make her come to me but every time I talk to her I get a hope and I don't know why. I know what you are saying that I should make my self so much better that she becomes irrelevant but for the time being it feels very hard. Please advice me , apart from self improvement how should I tackle her ? Should I make her feel jealous by hanging out with other girls and having fun life ? Should I stop appreciating her ? I feel very confused , can't think through a clear head

[-] MentORPHEUS 3 Points 11 months ago
  • You are her best friend, but not the other way around. Briffault's Law.
  • Work on yourself for you, not for women.
  • Have a mission in life and work toward it.
  • Keep working on yourself and improving, but continue with approaches now.
  • Don't try to buy or serve your way to a woman's heart and pussy. Reward her for giving you things you want first. Engage the SMP on a cash basis.
[-] PM_me_starwars 1 Point 11 months ago

Thanks for these points, I am working on it :) I read the link you gave , Amazing read Thank you for it :) Thing is now I have admitted my feelings she is the one who has more power. What should I do about that ? :)

[-] MattyAnon 1 Point 11 months ago

You don't need any advice. You're fat, you're working on it. Keep on going.

[-] PM_me_starwars 1 Point 11 months ago

I need some advice on power talk. So, that I don't give her validation

[-] MattyAnon 1 Point 11 months ago

In this instance you have to choose between friends and fucking. "I want to be your friend and fuck you and if not I'll be your friend" doesn't work. You have to choose.

Power talk - I'm no expert, others are better, ask again at top level in this thread.

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And don't do it - if it's real they can fuck off. If it's fake they're doxxing you.

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I have something I've been mulling over, or maybe just too pussy to do. I've thought about approaching girls in public who are out with their parents or with their families. For some reason doing this seems so daunting to me. I see girls out all the time that are very attractive and I want to do an approach but they are with their mom or something. Does anyone else here do these approaches a lot?

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[-] MattyAnon 1 Point 11 months ago

No, but keep reading TRP for a very good appraisal of its current impact right now on our society and culture.

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[-] MattyAnon 1 Point 11 months ago

Most look legit to me..... but they're always cherry picked. You don't see the 99 times the guy went out and got blown out. The 1 time it all goes smoothly he comes back and writes a FR, often with some revelation: "turns out wearing pink is the MAGIC PILL" that gets you laid, here's today's FR.

Next week of course it's back to normal.

[-] oholandesvoador 1 Point 11 months ago

I am planning on start taking Finasteride because of my hair loss, any thoughts on that?

I am really about the side effects of limp dick, losing morning wood and etc. Because I already have bad premature ejaculation...

[-] [deleted] 6 Points 11 months ago

Just shave your head. Who gives a shit about hair. Plus not worth the side effects from all that shit

[-] oholandesvoador 1 Point 11 months ago

Younger girls care about hair...

[-] [deleted] 4 Points 11 months ago

No they don’t. Even if they say they do, they don’t.

[-] Throwaway-242424 1 Point 11 months ago

Younger girls also care about you not having ED.

I had no hair in my early 20's and pulled just fine. Stop being a bitch, buzz/shave it, and lift. Don't cling to some superficial representation of your youth to the point you'll kill your dick to slow your losses.

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[-] TotalPigeon 0 Points 11 months ago

Fix your diet and get regular exercise first. Hair will often thin out if you are in poor health, and this can be a simple course correction.

Finasteride should be the absolute last thing you try for your hair due to all of the side effects (which can include an UNTREATABLE AND PERMANENT loss of libido and drive). It very much depends on your individual response to the drug but you are playing with fire taking it.

At the very least, Minoxidil is safer to try first.

If you are willing to try natural things to try and help your hair, I'd suggest checking out the for some ideas. YMMV and it is going to be more effort than just popping a pill, but if you can figure out what specifically works for you you may be able to fix your hair loss permanently.

[-] FearGarbhArMait 0 Points 11 months ago

Look into dht blocker topicals, they are typically shampoo's. If your hair follicles is gone already, it's gone unless you get a hair transplant.

Do not take finasteride it will block DHT in your system and DHT is what makes masculine secondary characteristics.

[-] FeelTheBernieSanderz 1 Point 11 months ago

Does IVF & Egg freezing contribute towards Post-wall women clinging to their "Have it all" lifestyle?

In how many generations time will there be women trying for babies in their late 40's or god forbid their 50's? I sense it's inevitable.

I know a few women at work trying for babies in the 35 - 45 age bracket. There's even a good-looking girl who I banter with (31) who wants me bad, said she wants my genes for a baby.

Holy hell, my male colleague asked why I don't "tap dat ass". Do you think she joking? I think not........

[-] BlackCraneStoic 1 Point 11 months ago

In relation to career prospects do pilots get tail or are they usually treated like Beta bucks by whatever chick the happen to have an LTR with?

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 11 months ago

Don't have an LTR if you're going to be constantly traveling from city to city. You'll eventually have regular routes as a pilot, which means you have an opportunity to have multiple plates in multiple cities. Why the hell would you want an LTR with all that potential?

[-] BlackCraneStoic 1 Point 11 months ago

Had an acquaintance who became a pilot and now at 25/26 he's a pilot flying out of Pennsylvania hitched to his highschool oneitis.

Heard that tgere was going to be massive demand for pilots soon since a massive flux of Seniors are retiring and "sponsorships" (not sure if this is the right term) are available. It's a great paying job but it's something a person has to have a passion for.

I'm way too into my lifting to disrupt it with that type of career path but the thought dawned on ne in relation to this guy I used to know. Pilot life as a relatively young guy seems to be more of a playboy lifestyle than a picketfenced one. Guess my former acquaintanced f'd up with that.

[-] alpha_in_progress 1 Point 11 months ago

Is anyone else having trouble accessing the main website ( I keep trying to go there but I get a 404 error Everytime. For what it's worth I'm on my phone.

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[-] ManguZa 3 Points 11 months ago

You're ready to try.

Just talk to girls, try to get a date and escalate. You'll fail and you'll learn.

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[-] ManguZa 1 Point 11 months ago

Well, by date i didn't mean to be nice. You can tell hang out if you prefer. English is not my first language.

The thing is : find girls, talk to them, try to escalate.

[-] WarBoruma 1 Point 11 months ago

Is this an appropriate thread to post workout questions?

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[-] moojoejoejoe 1 Point 11 months ago

So I was raised by lesbians.

Not sure if I should just make a new post for this but here goes. I was raised by lesbians and I have an older sister. They raised me on the traditional feminist narratives and I've always just accepted it. However, now I live in NYC and I every girl I date thinks that I'm "too nice". I feel pretty fed up because me treating them the way that I'm supposed to doesn't do anything for me. I'm still a virgin (incel but I hate to use that phrase given how people always act when you say it out loud). I could use any advice on how to become the kind of man that women will actually be attracted to.

[-] MattyAnon 3 Points 11 months ago

They raised me on the traditional feminist narratives and I've always just accepted it

Feminist narratives that were instilled in you, but you'll notice they don't abide by those narratives themselves and neither do other women.

For instance feminists don't work hard - they complain hard. And get other people to fix things for them.

However, now I live in NYC and I every girl I date thinks that I'm "too nice". I feel pretty fed up because me treating them the way that I'm supposed to doesn't do anything for me.

Right. This is very, very common. Had similar from my feminist mother. "Supposed to" was all a lie. You are supposed to be nice (not like those OTHER guys) and she will return your niceness with endless gratitude and you'll get an awesome wife and you will WIN IN THE END.

It's a crock of shit, designed to make men into slaves for women.

. I'm still a virgin (incel but I hate to use that phrase given how people always act when you say it out loud). I could use any advice on how to become the kind of man that women will actually be attracted to.

You're not an incel, you're a virgin who's doing something about it.

This sub is endlessly devoted to telling you how to be the kind of man women are attracted to. Lift, speak well, be successful, be selfish, take no shit from anyone, escalate with girls.

You don't have to be not-nice.... but stop fucking supplicating, deferring to her, and stop all the needy little side-behaviours you do that you hope get you approval. Be independent in yourself even while you chase skirt.

[-] DryExit 1 Point 11 months ago

im home from college for the summer and live in a big city. how can i meet girls or acquire a few plates?

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[-] Stron2g 1 Point 11 months ago

Hello y'all, I've been a follower of TRP for a few months now.

I'm in my early twenties so I don't understand this particular topic I always see come up during my TRP studies especially when discussion about married struggles is being held. Sex during marriage. More particularly, lack of it.

My question is, when you're married, what amount of sex is considered ideal? And why is it important? I always hear about men whose wives won't bed them and they get mad over it or some shit. So if someone, ideally with experience, could kindly enlighten me on this topic I'd be grateful. Thanks.

[-] conflagratorX 1 Point 11 months ago

Any Olympic Weightlifters here? Most posts related to lifting is about Power Lifting and/or body building. No posts about Oly lifts. I recently started training Oly Lifts (Power Clean, Power Jerk, Power Snatch) and I am totally hooked. Standard power lifting never gave me such intense feeling of being powerful. If someone is bored with standard lifts it might be good way to find again your motivation. It would be nice if someone more experienced then me would write about Oly Lifts.

[-] mikemnp11 1 Point 11 months ago

One of my plates broke 1 week ago because she started to say that she was unavailable when I was trying to bang her. We would only meet in bars or parks and then she would come up with an excuse to not come to my place. I was suspecting it was because of another guy. I said I was not going to have that and started no contact and after 4 days she said she is sorry for her behavior but still was no sign of banging on the horizon. Then 2 days after I get the confirmation that she was seeing another guy. I told her that I knew she was banging this guy and then she became hysterical and started insulting me (that was quite an enjoyable show, seeing a slut in a total mental breakdown).

Now, my intention was purely to show her that I am not an idiot and she can't lie to me. However, I am worried that maybe she thought I was butthurt or something like that. How would you have dealt with this situation, guys ? Maybe just go completely radio silent ?

Also, you think she contacted me again because she was unsure about the new guy ? I am new to trp and I am trying to pick up these behaviors in a real scenario ! any opinion would be great, thanks !

[-] [deleted] 1 Point 11 months ago

Have you banged her before?

[-] mikemnp11 1 Point 11 months ago

yeah, many times, for like 1 month and a half

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 11 months ago

Your plates are fucking other guys whether they tell you or not and whether you like it or not. It's probably best that you get over that part of the deal. You seem butthurt. Whether you are or not doesn't matter, because that's how it looks. The correct reaction is no reaction, not to be confrontational. By doing that you blow your frame. What I mean by that is that you should have options and what she is doing should not matter at all. If she isn't interested in coming over to fuck you, that's perfectly fine. It shouldn't cause you to do anything but say "ok" and then go do something (or someone) else.

[-] mikemnp11 1 Point 11 months ago

You're right. I thought it was not the right way to react. However, she was claiming (voluntarely) that she was only seeing me (I was not beleiving her), even repeateadly asking me if I see only her. I replied I am seeing other 6 girls, one for each day. It's more her hypocrisy that made me confront her... but I know is never a good idea to confront a woman.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 11 months ago

Yeah man all women are going to lie about that. It's in their nature to deceive sexually, whether it's lying about their past exploits and N counts, or tricking people into pregnancy or cheating and using sex in a relationship to manipulate behaviors. You can't control it, so just live your life.

The biggest part of TRP that does not get discussed enough is the peaceful acceptance of it all. That means in this case, instead of calling her "slut" you just laugh / shrug it off. WOMEN! haha. But instead, I sense bitterness inside. Don't be bitter. Anger phase is real, but strive for peaceful acceptance of reality and your life will become much more enjoyable and relaxed.

[-] mikemnp11 1 Point 11 months ago

Cheers, man ! Appreciate your advice !

[-] MattyAnon 1 Point 11 months ago

However, I am worried that maybe she thought I was butthurt or something like that.

No, the emotional meltdown is because she got cornered lying. You exposed her, so she brings the drama to distract.

You made her feel bad (for her behaviour), so this is her retaliation.

How would you have dealt with this situation, guys ? Maybe just go completely radio silent ?

Yes, fuck that shit.

Also, you think she contacted me again because she was unsure about the new guy ? I am new to trp and I am trying to pick up these behaviors in a real scenario ! any opinion would be great, thanks !

most likely she wants to retain your support and have you as an option in future

run fast run far

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[-] [deleted] 1 Point 11 months ago

Been lurking here since last year. After gotten through most of the reading materials on the sidebar and now finished up on the rational male, and onto book 2 of Rollos work “preventive medicine”. I noticed ever since my newfonded redpill awareness that I’m constant getting a negative feed. Such as from social media or just people on a daily basis.

As a result I just decided to delete my old reddit, Twitter and even Facebook account. Made a new one where I just follow people that add value to my life. And just decided to stop hanging out with low energy people.

I guess my question would be, what do you guys do individually on a daily basis to keep a positive mindset?

[-] airmcnair06 2 Points 11 months ago

Outdoor activities. Hiking. Bike riding. Sports. Anything outdoors usually brings happiness. Nature is beautiful... Its hard to me angry out in nature. At least for me lol. And I find the people that usually do these things are happy and healthy eaters as well.

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Not much outdoor where i am, kinda live in the city. But we do have a nice park, and i usually go there to read on a sunny day. Beats staying indoor and reading i tell you that.

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[-] Whitessx 1 Point 11 months ago

Hello. This is the first time I post in here. My grasp on some concepts and their consequences is still limited.

This is why I wanted to ask two questions. One is about hypergamy. I've been speaking to some blue pilled people about the concept, and most of them say it's not been their experience. One single mother said to me she economically maintained her man for ten years. Another man told me that his girlfriend has a lot of money and property, and he has nothing (he has a low wage job). How do I interpret these things through the concept I mentioned?

My other question is about when women show cleavage on social media and get all mad at you when you call them out on it, telling you they do it for themselves. Are they that oblivious to their own attention seeking nature? Is there anything more to it?

Thanks and I'm looking forward to reading from you guys.

[-] MattyAnon 2 Points 11 months ago

One is about hypergamy. I've been speaking to some blue pulled people about the concept, and most of them say it's not been their experience

The obfuscation is such that reality is hidden from them. Once you know it and see it, women readily confess it.

How do I interpret these things through the concept I mentioned?

Not everything fits with any model of human behaviour that can be summed up in 4 sentences. People are complex. But let me try:

One single mother said to me she economically maintained her man for ten years

Women are masters of PR. Look at her actions, ignore her words.

Another man told me that his girlfriend has a lot of money and property, and he has nothing (he has a low wage job

Does she give him any of it? Or are they just seeing each other? Rich women are free to date for dick rather than resources.

My other question is about when women show cleavage on social media and get all mad at you when you call them out on it, telling you they do it for themselves. Are they that oblivious to their own attention seeking nature? Is there anything more to it?

They are not oblivious and you're right. But she wants to maintain the lie "this is for me". Saying she does it for validation is low status behaviour. Doing it for herself is high status. You accused her of low status behaviour (which is of course completely true) so she screams back to maintain her status. Women lie most of all about their motives.

[-] airmcnair06 2 Points 11 months ago

Don't believe what women say. Watch what they do. They are masters at making their (hamster) world a reality and being a victim. She may have maintained him financially or whatever but she probably also left out the part where she has had a plethora of side dick those 10 years as well. With women, words mean so little, especially beyond that moment because their minds change as quickly as their emotions, so she may hold another opinion 5 minutes later and you may see it as lying, but she won't see it that way. That's why you can't expect a woman to hold true to her word, but yet they expect for ours to mean a lot and try to call us out on it. That's a hard pill to swallow, but it has been proven many times.

Most women aren't aware of their OWN attention seeking behavior, because it is within their subconscious. They are very aware of other women's attention whoring though. I've seen countless women call another woman "thirsty" for attention and then do the EXACT same shit a week later and not even realize it. Calling them out on their attention seeking nature does nothing constructive, I've only seen it create problems. Of course she put it there for the likes, the validation, the feels she gets from being desired, etc. Nothing you can do to stop a woman from attention whoring honestly. Women crave it. Even if you told her everyday she was beautiful, she would still crave the attention from others. It's just their nature. Calling them out on it just puts up unnecessary defenses and makes you look weak, bitter and angry with women (and let's be honest, most of us here are) . Just accept it as a woman's nature, to constantly need and seek validation. AWALT

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[-] airmcnair06 1 Point 11 months ago

It's called the feminization of America. It's a perpetual image portrayed in movies, media, etc. Which portrays the nice, wholesome guy most women think and say they want, but we know they secretly can't resist the "bad boys" either. But they portray that beta nice guy as making her panties wet.... But this isn't realistic and this model of how to act should not be followed. It's really that simple. Media is full of it. Which is a good reason to take a break from it because it is seriously EVERY FUCKING WHERE in media, you just have to be aware of which media outlets to follow and which ones to avoid (most of them)

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[-] Junted 1 Point 11 months ago

Ever had a plate that loved you, that found out about about other girls you fucked while plating her? Dealt with it for a few months. Tried distancing herself. You gave her the opportunity for commitment. She was indecisive. Eventually accepts. Then starts saying she doesnt like you and dries up the sex?

Hahaha, I kick her out of my house after the 2nd dry session, realizing i was in to deep and from an experiment standpoint am wondering if in a few months you can see me being able to hit it again? Too busy crushing career, plates and passions now, dont care enough for sooner, but the pussy was da bomb so Im down later!

Thoughts or similar experiences?

[-] whatsthisgarg 3 Points 11 months ago

that found out about about other girls you fucked

many times. Every time it was a particular asymmetrical thing, like they were ok with being on one end of it but not the other.

I had a FWB (we were truly friends) and she knew I was fucking another chick, but as long as chick didn't know about FWB, FWB was good with it. But then I started fucking FWB's roommate; roommate knew about chick, roommate did not know about FWB, and chick didn't know about roommate. But FWB said "if you're going to be fucking roommate, we should stop doing this." We stayed friends.

But then, roommate got tired of the drama, wanted stability. A spot opened up and FWB came back around for more. Not only that, roommate came back around for more a few months later.

Another situation was with chick in the above story. Babe was coming back from study abroad, and I told chick she was. Chick was ok until babe came back. Chick got upset, said she didn't want to share me, so I said "sorry." I went with babe and FWB (FWB was fine with babe because babe didn't know about FWB). However, a year or so later, still with babe, and chick comes back around for more.

Moral of the story: they all come back.

[-] kiwifx 1 Point 11 months ago

I'm missing something here. Why does FWB care whether your other plates know you're fucking FWB?

[-] whatsthisgarg 2 Points 11 months ago

I'm missing something here. Why does FWB care whether your other plates know you're fucking FWB?

Because it was her roommate, I guess. Just imagine the conversation where roommate tells FWB who she slept with last night (me) and she just has to sit there and listen without saying "Oh you mean our mutual friend that I have been fucking for the last 3 months?"

I don't know, I didn't press her on why, and she didn't say choose one, she just said she was stepping out.

There's another question in this megathread about fucking girls from the same group. They don't really want the others to know. My experience.

[-] MattyAnon 3 Points 11 months ago

Ever had a plate that loved you

I have never had a woman that loved me. Plenty have adored me, worshipped me, wanted me and especially needed me. But women do not love.

then starts saying she doesnt like you and dries up the sex?

That's fine. You can see other women.

I kick her out of my house

This isn't a "plate", this is a live-in LTR and they're a fucking nightmare.

realizing i was in to deep and from an experiment standpoint am wondering if in a few months you can see me being able to hit it again?

Good chance. But FIND BETTER.

[-] Junted 1 Point 11 months ago

Understood. And she wasn't a Live-in. She only stayed overnight once a week when i was in town or free. No clothing left over or key to the crib. It wasnt a nightmare. But what you mentioned I could see as one in most cases.

How did you yoursefl form that Live-in nightmare opinion?

[-] dulkemaru51 -1 Point 11 months ago

Hypergamy is AF & BB. That is the universal nature of the female human. It is a fixed biological reality. She will feel attracted to Alpha traits and she will have an emotional need to get commitment from a man, whether it be from the same man or not. Often it is not, hence Alpha Chads in her party years and Billy Beta when she becomes old and ugly.

How this set of needs (attraction and commitment) manifests in her behaviour/life choices, depends on her overall environment - upbringing and culture:

A girl raised by a domineering mother and a weak father will fuck the hawt guys in her prime and cash in on a wealthy, weak slave as she has her epiphany, because of mom and dad and her general view on men which is that men are weak. AF/BB holds.

A girl raised by a single mother could turn into a validation seeking slut who fucks every AF who comes her way and ends up with a weak BB or with a bunch of cats. AF/BB holds.

A girl raised by a feminine mother and a masculine father will not have the need for constant male attention. She will follow her mother's example and her father will imprint on her the male example that she will seek out as an adult. She will not fuck every Chad that comes her way for validation, neither will she fulfill her need for commitment by marrying a weak Beta or by having a ton of orbiters, because she wants someone who is like daddy. She will seek out both AF and BB from the same, masculine Alpha guy, who throws in some BB in the form of commitment. She is capable of resisting the tingles that Chad gives her because she looks for more than that. She still needs tingles of course and she expects them, but she wants an Alpha (tingles) who also commits (throws in some BB), Chad dick (tingles) is not enough for her. She respects men. AF/BB holds.

Is this generally correct? The Family Alpha (Hunter Drew) writes about this, but does not describe how a daughter's choice in men relates to, or works despite of, the universal AF/BB hardwiring in women. Is the description of how her psychology develops, on top of her inherent AF/BB programming, in this post, correct?

TL;DR AF/BB, a woman is attracted to Alpha traits (tingles) AND has a need to get commitment (Beta trait). Is her environment a deciding factor (A deciding factor, not the only one, I know how far the feminist virus reaches) in how she fulfills her two, hardwired biological needs of AF & BB? For example Chads in her prime and Beta Billy in her 30s (domineering mother and weak father), or an AF/BB combo in the same man(feminine mother and masculine father) because tingles (Chad) isn't enough for her? She isn't happy with only AF and of course, she doesn't want a BB either, but rather seeks both in the same man by default, because of daddy?

[-] Flying_Wingback -1 Point 11 months ago

Walked away from a plate mid-conversation. I have a feeling she will call to apologize and ask to hang out. Ignore call or make her pay for drinks to hangout?

[-] MattyAnon 2 Points 11 months ago

If she calls quickly, ignore. If she takes a few days, carry on like nothing has happened, she's been punished enough by your absence. Don't expect much of an apology though.

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[-] MentORPHEUS 2 Points 11 months ago

So, today, I purposefully took something from a girl and got her to follow me to class. She kept giving me "ah you're so annoying"'s and smiled/giggled. Yet, I gave the object back instead of using it for leverage to get her to come again tomorrow(i realized i should've done that when i got home). Should i repeat it the day after or wait til next week?

What's your next big move? Tease her in the cafeteria?

and smiled/giggled

Let's take this as an IOI and move in a more adult-y direction with it. In the future, you want to recognize these in the moment and act accordingly immediately. As the man, you have to take the initiative in escalating toward intimacy.

Now finagle a walk together to class together of her own volition. Talk with her a bit about yourself, learn a bit about her, and find some common ground to spend more time together in the future.