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- Hide Preview | 143 Comments | submitted 9 months ago by hiddenpleasures123 [Post Locked]

Background

Lets call him "John" is in his early 30s, LTR 3 years(Married 2),one kid with her, average looks, earns around 80k per year between two jobs(He picked up a dishwashing job on the weekends and a few weekday nights), paying off a house he can't afford. All he ever talks about is his wife and trying to make her happy. He has zero hobbies or interests left besides her.

The wife is in her late 20s, she has 2 kids(one with John), she is 7 in looks, she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mom, puts kids in daycare to pursue her "hobbies"(of course social hobbies), goes out with her girlfriends twice a week.

John often complains about a sexless marriage, being stuck watching the kids, communication problems, boundary issues, lack of money, lack of sleep, lack of time. I've offered advice, only to have it thrown back in my face. "Things are different when you get married and settle down, you'll understand someday".

The story:

He sold his custom motorcycle, he rode it to work all of the time. He now has no car or motorcycle

Why? Because his wife claimed she needed a better car. She drove his 2016 Nissan Rogue with around 35000 miles on it(He owned it). She now has a pre-owned 2018 GMC Acadia top of the line model(it's hers) with not even 5,000 miles on the clock. How did they afford/ make the down payment? He sold his bike Friday and traded in the Rogue. He has a car payment of over 500 dollars a month now, for a car he doesn't own.

John hasn't even driven the SUV yet. He claims his wife won't let him and it's because "She just loves it so much". He claims he loves seeing her this happy and no motorcycle could replace the way he feels right now. John sold one of his favorite things in the world to spoil an already spoiled brat.

He's unaware of the future to come; Cuckolding (she already cheated once, that he knows of), divorce rape and having his kids hate him.

Don't give up any hobby or anything you love for a woman. Don't fucking get married. Women aren't worth it.

[-] atticusfinch1973 311 Points 9 months ago

Pays for daycare yet she's a stay at home mom? Stopped reading at that point. This guy is beyond help.

The reason that women like this get away with this stuff is because guys like this let them. Don't be that guy. Easy lesson.

[-] thedaynos 44 Points 9 months ago

right. if i had someone to do all that shit for me and pay for everything, i'd probably cheat just out of boredom alone.

dude is a moron

[-] TrenGod37 37 Points 9 months ago

Man this type of post saddens me to the core. I recently went out with some friends. The one dude is married he’s fucking loaded and his wife is a lazy broke piece of shit. He loves fast cars and motorcycles. He sold his bike because she wanted him to. Said he’d love to get another one but she wouldn’t let him. And you can tell when he talks about it, it upsets him.

I told him right in front of her he needs to buy one again and live his life. And she goes “if he buys one I will sell it and buy myself a new Louis Vuitton purse” and laughed.

It took everything in me to not call her a cunt.

[-] WolfofAllStreetz 35 Points 9 months ago

Bingo. I pay for daycare but my wife works and carries our benefits. I can't fathom this.

[-] Auvergnat 8 Points 9 months ago

It would be easier if modern culture was not so hell-bent at producing guys with such defective mindset.

[-] EternalPropagation 1 Point 9 months ago

I blame our fathers and grandfathers. Holy fuck they're retarded. I spit on their graves.

[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

My dad always had his classic cars and boats and snowmobiles and toys. He enjoyed them and so did the rest of the family. I don’t know how other dudes’ families were like growing up, but the men in mine always had a balance between their hobbies and their family lives. Maybe that’s why I only saw healthy marriages in my family. It’s the dudes similar to my age who seem to have gotten cuckolded somehow.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points 9 months ago

I stopped reading after 2018 GMC Acadia (junk vehicle). They sound like your typical couple that eats at Applebee's, finances mattresses for ten years, and gets excited at the idea of Kohls cash. There's not a bail bondsman in the world that can get this poor guys dick out of the clink

[-] -DeadLock 1 Point 9 months ago

As an ex banker I laughed out loud

[-] omega_fat 127 Points 9 months ago

Biggest moron ever. Not even sure what we could learn from this example. Don't be extremely retarded?

[-] hiddenpleasures123 55 Points 9 months ago

The sad thing is, he isn't extremely retarded. He's an intelligent man that got sold a lie to be a "good man and do the right thing".

[-] haskayn 98 Points 9 months ago

No he's retarded.

First - married a woman with kids, stayed with a woman who cheats, and washes dishes for extra money?...

[-] BrownGummyBear 47 Points 9 months ago

There absolutely nothing wrong with washing dishes to make some money. What’s stupid though is washing dishes to make some extra money to end up spending it in some cheating sloot

[-] haskayn 13 Points 9 months ago

There are smarter ways to make money than min wage.

That is for the masses, someone smart would invest in themselves into something that can grow into something bigger.

I never said something wrong, i said its not smart.

[-] gulag_disco 12 Points 9 months ago

You’re right. If it’s living on the streets or washing dishes, then do it, though you might end up on the streets anyway at dishwashing wages.

But if you have extra time to wash dishes after your first job you’re not using your time well. You need to be studying how to get a lucrative license, working a side hustle, or developing your lifelong mission.

[-] haskayn 2 Points 9 months ago

Well said, I should have clarified.

I dont look down on it pif you have to. But figure out a plan to escape or else capitalism will swallow you.

[-] ebaymasochist 1 Point 9 months ago

Seriously he's making 80k and washing dishes? There's gotta be a better way.

[-] ddelicia 26 Points 9 months ago

I have to agree here, albeit not "retarded" but naive and clueless. Life will bite him hard in the ass and one day maybe he will find this community.

[-] NeedingAdvice86 6 Points 9 months ago

No, he isn't.

Being good at education\reading books does not make you intelligent. It makes you good at the task of learning things from books and taking test.

Knowing about fluid dynamics or Platos does not really mean that you are "intelligent"....his actions say that he is NOT, in fact, smart or intelligent.

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[-] Incel9876 2 Points 9 months ago

I know mechanical engineers that can't work on their own cars, I know doctors that don't use proper English, there are bright hard working middle management types that get cucked. If you have to be intelligent in everything in order to be considered intelligent, well then no one is intelligent.

Education, intelligence, and wisdom are three different traits. Intelligent men can be unwise and thus be cucks.

Educated men can be idiot savants, or Renaissance Men, yet be unwise and be cucks.

Wise men can be uneducated and even unintelligent, but since they are wise, they don't allow themselves to be cucks, even if they couldn't provide an intelligent explanation of why and how they avoid becoming a cuck.

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[-] hiddenpleasures123 9 Points 9 months ago

John is only trying to play the game that society programmed him to play from a young age. Pretty much most RPers played the game at some point or another before unplugging.

[-] grandmasbroach 3 Points 9 months ago

He is retarded, plain and simple.

[-] Red_Faust 1 Point 9 months ago

He's stupid, but not because he fell into the trap.

It's because when you try to explain to him how things work, he doesn't listen.

You wrote it yourself in the OP:

I've offered advice, only to have it thrown back in my face.

We can all make mistakes. But if we make a mistake and, when called on it, double down, then we're being stupid.

[-] [deleted] 0 Points 9 months ago

Hes not retarded and he isnt intelligent. Hes just... hopeless.

[-] ariky 72 Points 9 months ago

TLDR

So john stops riding the bikey Wife starts riding the dickey

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[-] Atolla2 51 Points 9 months ago

This just kept getting worse, reads like a horror story.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 20 Points 9 months ago

I don’t usually feel bad for chumps because shit like this is how they learn the lesson not to be chumps. In this case, even though I know it’s not worth even thinking about, I feel a little bad for him

[-] BewareTheOldMan 15 Points 9 months ago

Let's review...

Poor, unsuspecting, and stupid Beta-SIMP marries an average-looking Single Mother, "produces" another child (WITHOUT confirming biological link), allows a SAHM situation where she sends the kids to daycare to "pursue hobbies" and 2x weekly "girl time."

Dude is busting his ass working TWO jobs earning $80K a year- one of which is washing dishes - has a mortgage he CAN'T afford, sold his motorcycle for cash as down-payment on a luxury-top model SUV that he's NOT ALLOWED to drive...AND he now has a $500 monthly payment to include insurance for a new-model vehicle.

Super SIMP exerted ALL of this effort and continues with ALL this sacrifice...is getting no sex, very little sleep, is stuck watching the kids (when he's NOT working himself to exhaustion), is having "communication issues" as a couple, has virtually no money as it's ALL going to the Stay-at-Home Mom...and this whore has ALREADY been unfaithful on at least one occasion with some type of illicit affair.

"All he ever talks about is his wife and trying to make her happy. He has zero hobbies or interests left besides her."

u/hiddenpleasures123 - are you absolute in your observations? It's virtually impossible for the average SIMP to be this stupid.

Also - this is a necessary question...is your coworker/buddy some unattractive, overweight dude who can't otherwise land an appreciative women with much less effort?

It's fine to exert effort in a relationship and especially marriage, but this dude is straight overkill and working himself into an early grave for a woman who is CLEARLY banging other men while he slaves away to keep this woman "happy."

This is the REAL POWER of Social Conditioning and fooling gullible men that if one just "works harder, buys more expensive gifts, and sacrifices even more" his wife/woman will demonstrate love, loyalty, and appreciation...along with rewarding him with great sex.

One day "John" will come home exhausted and will flip out when he realizes the wife "has plans" for the evening in addition to refusing sex for the umpteenth time.

It will be then he can start his journey on his Red Pill Awakening.

When that happens...be ready with some great TRP advice. "John's" going to need it.

[-] martell164 1 Point 9 months ago

The dude had a motorcycle, he should have no problems getting women with that

[-] SovereignSoul76 2 Points 9 months ago

"It's like a nightmare, isn't it? .....and it just keeps getting worse, and worse, doesn't it?"

[-] MattyAnon 37 Points 9 months ago

earns around 80k per year between two jobs(He picked up a dishwashing job on the weekends and a few weekday nights),

he isn't earning 80k dollars if he's doing dishwashing jobs.

John often complains about a sexless marriage, being stuck watching the kids, communication problems, boundary issues, lack of money, lack of sleep, lack of time

he's fully beta'd up.

John sold one of his favorite things in the world to spoil an already spoiled brat.

He's hoping for gratitude/appreciation/consideration/sex.

Meanwhile he's investing and she's exploiting. He's got a very nasty divorce looming as OP says when she figures out she can keep the car, house AND get child support + alimony. "Yes your honour, I feel very very scared in my own house".

[-] [deleted] 12 Points 9 months ago

Guy probably makes like 65-70k in a normal job and does his second job to earn the extra money needed to sustain their ridiculous lifestyle.

[-] MattyAnon 12 Points 9 months ago

The plate washing is so that Chad can see her on a weekend

[-] redpillbanana 33 Points 9 months ago

He claims he loves seeing her this happy and no motorcycle could replace the way he feels right now.

I wonder if he'll be saying the same thing when she finds happiness with another man on his dime.

[-] g0dfather93 9 Points 9 months ago

"WHEN" she finds? Come on bud, you, me, OP and John know she's finding and hoarding "happiness" by the sackfuls.

[-] PhilNEvo 30 Points 9 months ago

As the saying goes, if you're not fucking your wife you can be damn sure someone else is.

[-] PrettyBelowAverage 25 Points 9 months ago

she already cheated once, that he knows of

That's all we needed to hear to get this whole story.

[-] ECoast_Man 10 Points 9 months ago

It didn't even need to be included for me to know that had happened, and she's cheated more and will continue to. No fucking doubt.

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[-] sunbro29 18 Points 9 months ago

I’ve found that 30% of TRP is adamant truth, objective fact. Then 30% is theory and could go either way. 10% isn’t very true. And then the other 30% is men being actual retards and fucking their own asses.

[-] Rezi89 15 Points 9 months ago

John never deserved his motorcycle.

[-] [deleted] 12 Points 9 months ago

It's always sad to see a friend come down with vaginal cancer.

[-] kiwifx 11 Points 9 months ago

At least all that walking and extra hours working will help get him in shape a bit. That'll come in handy when he's walking to dates after the divorce.

[-] TheMrk790 11 Points 9 months ago

Damn. Poor, stupid dude. You don't even have to be red pilled at all, to see how stupid that move was.

[-] NeedingAdvice86 10 Points 9 months ago

That is the lesson you learned from this fucking tale?

This isn't the damn woman fault but that this co-worker is a weak, pussy of a man who so addicted to getting a piece of pussy that he would sale his soul so he throws away all of his self-respect, intelligence and balls for the oft chance that this horrible choice for a mate will let him stick his dick in her pussy.

Hell hath the guys on this reddit dress it up under a bunch of macho cover but they would do the same.....cuck a lifelong friend, lose a solid career, or takes massive about of nearly lethal drugs for the chance to fuck a random girl that fluttered their eyes at them.

She is a horrid choice for a partner but he chose her and he is responsible for his behavior.

[-] [deleted] 8 Points 9 months ago

I know he's your buddy and all, but I think I'd legitimately struggle to continue being friends with someone who has such low self-respect and is as retarded as your co-worker.

[-] Xexitar 7 Points 9 months ago

Only get married if she earns more than you. That's the rule.

[-] ProFriendZoner 7 Points 9 months ago

Are we sure the child is his?

[-] juliusstreicher 3 Points 9 months ago

Of course. His wife just had black genes from her great great grandfather, and they are manifesting now!

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[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

He’s working two jobs to support her doing nothing. The courts may insist that that continue so that she can “maintain her standard of living.”

Don’t EVER get married and let your wife stay at home. EVER.

[-] VillagersUnite 5 Points 9 months ago

John often complains about a sexless marriage, being stuck watching the kids, communication problems, boundary issues, lack of money, lack of sleep, lack of time.

Here's a funny response. "John I need a better car!" "Well wife I need a blowjob but you don't see me complaining about that." Heh. At any rate cringe. Just pure cringe at this situation. Who knows when he'll get another bike.

[-] fuckingfuckfuckerton 5 Points 9 months ago

What a fucking pussy. He’s a lot cause sorry

[-] quansau1 5 Points 9 months ago

I think we all know where the update on this is going. Poor noble John, clinging to the vestiges of a society that was at best semifunctional during its prime. Always keep your power, don't be john.

[-] A_Bandini 5 Points 9 months ago

What a pathetic, retarded, deluded son of a bitch. I feel no pity for him. The OP offered to extend advice and it was declined. This cuck is gonna get divorce raped very soon.

[-] askmrcia 1 Point 9 months ago

I almost want to say this shit is fake. I know betas and simps exist, but this is over the top.

Even the most blue pill people I know wouldn't be this far gone

[-] justintruetho 2 Points 9 months ago

As much as we want it to be fake they are countless men like this out there. I bartend at a local pub where many housewives frequent and god do you see them cheating on their husbands all the time. Some are even buying designer handbags and expensive liquor despite the husband having a mediocre job like the dude in this story.

Bless them for easy tips tho.

[-] TheStumblingWolf 5 Points 9 months ago

One day he'll wake up and realize he wasted his entire life. By then it'll be too late. Sad.

[-] HardTruths83 4 Points 9 months ago

Poor dude. First step to getting out of the hole is to stop digging. Even in my worst blue-pilled days, I made her pay for her own damned car.

[-] grandmasbroach 4 Points 9 months ago

Car salesman here. 500 a month aint shit. That is about the payment for financing 25k on an auto loan. 300 a month gets you about a 12k POS after tax. The only people I see still chasing a 300 ish payment, simply have not bought a vehicle in the last decade or two. That is simply not much for a car these days. The only way you are even getting to 500 on a new truck or something, is by putting over half the money down.

[-] hiddenpleasures123 3 Points 9 months ago

Sounds about right. Remember he had a decently expensive motorcycle and traded his rogue in.

The expense for transportation should never exceed 15% of your income. While 10% is more ideal. A 500+ payment, 150+ a month insurance, around 120-200 per month in gas, 50-100 per month in repairs, puts him at 800+ a month, well above the sweet spot.

[-] Herdsengineers 4 Points 9 months ago

he won't unplug until the life he built for himself destroys him. and unplugging will be a slow, painful process; marked by defiance of truths staring him the face, bargaining in his mind about how if only this or that happens, things will get better, etc. when all that fails and life falls apart anyway, and he's lost everything, then he'll start asking "what is going wrong?" then unplugging is a possibility.

speaking from personal experience as i went through the same thing.

[-] coolredpill 3 Points 9 months ago

at least he wont get into a car accident on a motorcycle and become paralyzed for life

[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

He already is paralyzed for life. Especially his dick.

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[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

Don’t collapse your life into the man room either.

[-] ghostfacr 1 Point 9 months ago

You mean like a man cave? That pisses me off so much. Man caves used to be the living room or the study. Now all the masculine shit like mounted buffalo heads and samurai swords and video games get relegated to the garage or the shitty spare bedroom or the basement. Its bullshit.

[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

Exactly that. Men shouldn't have to do man shit outside of the main areas of the home. When my marriage was on the rocks, I worked, made music, played video games, ate and slept in one room of the house. ONE ROOM. It was like my studio apartment.

The rest of the house was hostile territory. Never again. My shit comes with me, it's part of my life. And if I'm in the kind of relationship where I can't play records in the living room or watch 1980s movies on the main couch from time to time, I will know I'm in the wrong relationship.

EDIT- and my ex even tried to get me to sell my motorcycle and vintage car. NEVER AGAIN, MAN. Glad I didn't do it.

[-] Appex1 3 Points 9 months ago

I just can't understand the minds of these guys. Yes, I've been BP all until I discovered TRP, but this is tragically BP. It's the same with the guys, who basically send all their life savings away for a random slut hoping that they will fall in love with them. Like sending them $500.000 will make them fall in love more than if they "just" sent $100.000.

Imagine his anger phase if he discovers TRP.

[-] g0dfather93 3 Points 9 months ago

John hasn't even driven the SUV yet. He claims his wife won't let him and it's because "She just loves it so much".

John's an absolute fucking thick-head and is begging to be taken for a ride. If this bitch won't, someone else will. - I

She now has a pre-owned 2018 GMC Acadia top of the line model(it's hers) with not even 5,000 miles on the clock.

John's beyond shitty at basic finance sense. - II

(she already cheated once, that he knows of)

Adding the stupidity from statements I & II, if he knows one instance of cheating.... God fucking dammit she's brazenly riding the cock carousel and the whole block knows she's banging 5 dudes - except him.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points 9 months ago

I have zero pity for guys like that

Absolutely zero

Wow

[-] OfficerWade 3 Points 9 months ago

I remember when my boss told me he bought a car for his girlfriend and got stuck with payments after they broke up. LOL. It’s the same shit with every man. No shame in making a mistake though just remember. AWALT

[-] BeeBopJoe 3 Points 9 months ago

This whole situation is a ticking nuclear bomb. I hope he is strong enough to deal with things when fit hits the shan.

[-] martell164 2 Points 9 months ago

And this guy rode a MOTORCYCLE, as in a massive chick magnet

A "Stay at home mom" that pays for daycare, and the dad is still stuck watching the kids

[-] Hjalmbere 2 Points 9 months ago

What an idiot. This guy should be planning his divorce by talking to a lawyer and moving assets out of reach from his wife.

[-] Solitary_Solidarity 2 Points 9 months ago

This will probably end in suicide, guy is so fucking cucked its unreal.

[-] Howdoiusesync 2 Points 9 months ago

As someone who doesn’t know anyone like this, why the actual fuck does someone think this is okay?

[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

Because “good men” provide for their families, and having a reasonably attractive wife means something or other about your worth, even if she’d rather have a tooth extraction than touch your penis.

[-] DwightWolftail 2 Points 9 months ago

I can smell it in the water, smell it in the air, smell it in the earth... Strange dick's cum in his wife.

[-] UncleChido 1 Point 9 months ago

Never give up an opportunity for (personal) growth because of a woman.

I read something like that in the sidebar. Too bad John hasn’t found the pill yet.

[-] destraht 1 Point 9 months ago

I just met a legit runway model chick in Medellin (I saw her walk) and ended up following her back to her Cali since that is also where I had just come from and I have a sweet nightly hotel and monthly rented office space setup. The girl is one of the best that I've had in many years in terms of overall looks and personality but the thought of living in Colombia for an era scares the shit out of me because people/things are just so retarded and disorganized around here that it seems like a poor use of my life (making Ukraine look hyper-German by comparison). I'll be kicking myself in the ass for a moment back in Eastern Europe but the copious massages should alleviate my pain a bit until the next one comes around, which in all likelihood won't be as good as this one. I just can't chill here long term for a girl.

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[-] magx01 1 Point 9 months ago

I once had an interesting conversation with a guy like this. I asked him "if the roles were reversed, would you sit idly by or would you do what you could to help your obviously overworked wife?"

"I wouldn't even have let it got to that point" was his response.

"Because you love her and want her to live a good life, right?" I asked.

"Yes, of course." came his reply.

"Okay, well why isn't she doing the same for you? She loves you, right?"

I didn't hear from him for a while after that. They were divorced within a year.

....He got remarried a year later.

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He deserves what’s coming. I hate to say it, but I’m surprised he ever made it to passing on his DNA

[-] VictxrSenpai 1 Point 9 months ago

He should just give her his balls on a silver plater next

[-] aquickquestionplzthx 1 Point 9 months ago

It should be against the law to ride any bike, statistically 160x more likely to die in a crash. So this is not a good example. But if he sold his gaming PC to buy her stuff then maybe that would be a valid point. She saved his life by causing him to sell his bike.

[-] hiddenpleasures123 1 Point 9 months ago

Keep being a pussy and living inside a box.

My dad did Isle of Man TT, he died from fucking cancer. Fuck off you pussy cunt.

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Poor sod, can't save em' all mate

[-] ebaymasochist 1 Point 9 months ago

He obviously gave up most of his life for her. That was before the motorcycle. No hobbies, no fun, no life outside of work, and her. John needs to start lifting and fighting MMA or boxing. If his POS wife sees him beat the shit out of another man, she'll get all moist again and they can work things out. I think a contact sport is important here, because John has a lot of anger and weakness he needs to get out of his system before he takes it out on himself or someone else, outside of the ring.

[-] hiddenpleasures123 2 Points 9 months ago

If he wants her moist again, he needs to leave and go on a "quest" to find himself. Just leave for 40 days, grow a beard and randomly come back.

At this point in the game, doint subtle shit isn't going to work anymore

[-] ebaymasochist 0 Points 9 months ago

Yeah and that will be the first thing they mention in divorce court- "He just disappeared and went 40 days without seeing his children"

By that time there will be another guy moved into his house

[-] hiddenpleasures123 1 Point 9 months ago

He's fucked either way at this point.

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[-] ShotgunTRP 1 Point 9 months ago

This guy actually makes me fucking sick

[-] 2comment 1 Point 9 months ago

Hang this poster on his wall. Here is a less colorful free printout.

I bet this guy just didn't get pussy even up to and including college. The desperation to keep a good lucking chick reeks so much that his wife probably can't even stand sharing the same bedroom with him.

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[-] Yakatonker 1 Point 9 months ago

He claims he loves seeing her this happy and no motorcycle could replace the way he feels right now.

Too cringy. Allowing emotions to dictate the course of events in a relationship, just no.

[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

She had a perfectly fine automobile and the new car feeling will dissipate over time. And then he’ll just be a sexually frustrated dude missing his old motorcycle.

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[-] RIchardjCranium 1 Point 9 months ago

Sometimes it's difficult to realize we are just a small minority. I very rarely run into a red pill guy in real life.

He just sounds like one of those just regular guys that lets life wash over him. And every one of these guys that just accepts awful treatment from his wife and doing whatever it takes to make cupcake happy has given me the exact same answer verbatim when I ask him what he puts up with it.

"Well man that's just how it is you wouldn't understand."

[-] hiddenpleasures123 0 Points 9 months ago

This. Right here. I got depressed a little when this happened. I see a man trying to be "good" and do the "right thing". The sad thing is... His ignorance keeps him from seeing the fact he will always lose playing this game. TRP is like cheat codes and he refuses to use them, because he thinks he can beat the game.

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[-] SKRedPill 1 Point 9 months ago

Women use disappointment as a tool for manipulation and it works very well for the man who thinks there's a real problem.

Ultimately a woman can't ever be totally satisfied. Feminine dissatisfaction and insecurity are self fulfilling.

Besides, he must be utterly blind if he thinks women love SUVs. I mean did he try discussing Torque, HP gearbox, active aero, projector beam patterns and Limited Slip Differential with her? (For anyone who believes otherwise, do try to discuss this with a girl, it's the easiest way to wake up from bluepill).

[-] hiddenpleasures123 1 Point 9 months ago

Women don't know shit about cars. I once knew a woman who bought a Hyundia Shituron(6cyl) and thought it was a sports car.

I own a variety of cars and motorcycles, but one car that I brought to work in particular was a Ford Escort ZX2(fun fucking car btw). She kept putting my car down, saying how her's had more HP and constantly having that point validated by other men. I tried to explain PTWR(not to mention I had a 5 speed over a shitbox) and was immediately shut down.

We ended up racing after like 3 months of this shit, of course she loses and starts making cringey references. "You must have used NOS" "Her V-Tec must've not have kicked in".

Kill me.

[-] Rares5555 1 Point 9 months ago

Sold his motorcycle?

We have officially found the biggest cuck ever, gents.

[-] jeromeantoinecarter 1 Point 9 months ago

Fucked up thing is he will wind up paying alimony and child support based off his income working two jobs for this cunt, level she has "been accustomed to". He will be stuck working his ass off to pay this bitch even after she dumps him, which is coming.

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[-] SimonDisaster 1 Point 9 months ago

Just reading this made me depressed.

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[-] AncientDragons 1 Point 9 months ago

The problem with this guy is that even if he tries to unplug, his opportunistic wife is likely to turn on him and fuck up his life through custody, child support and alimony.

However- sexless marriage and selling his toys in your early 30s? Imagine how bad it will be if he stays. If I were him I’d try to turn it around and if it doesn’t work, get the best divorce lawyer in the state.

[-] wanker7171 1 Point 9 months ago

And most of reddit thinks this sub is shitty for trying to help guys like this. It enrages me

[-] banthrow -6 Point 9 months ago

It's a safer car for her and the kids. Lets see how alpha you are when you family dies in a car accident. Also, I would do the same. Now he can go buy a much better motorcycle.

[-] hiddenpleasures123 2 Points 9 months ago

Cars are only so safe. You really think the GMC Acadia is safer than a Nissan Rogue? Maybe it is... But it's not by much.

The Rogue is lighter and smaller, it handles and brakes better, it's pure physics. This would help avoid accidents and collisions.

You have better visibility with the Rogue, you may see something you didn't in the Acadia. The Acadia is so large it needs fucking sensors and multiple cameras to drive it. It also has small ass windows.

[-] Pestilence1911 1 Point 9 months ago

Just get an AMC Eagle, those things can drive into brick walls without getting dented, and over two feet of snow.

Why buy a car that crumples when you look at it wrong?

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[-] OskarDarkness -7 Point 9 months ago

Thats a terrable advice in the end. There are many happily married red pilled man. There is a whole sub married red pill for god sake

[-] MattyAnon 21 Points 9 months ago

There are many happily married red pilled man

Name one

There is a whole sub married red pill for god sake

And what they discuss is how they wish they weren't married and how to apply enough dread and effort to get occasional sex.

Marriage is a terrible idea for any man.

[-] Rian_Stone 8 Points 9 months ago

Even the happy ones agree with this statement.

Bogeyd6
Firetempered
Rollo
uemmcgill
countpoodyoola
ultmateCAD

Even with their happiness (which has nothing to do with legal status), they would agree with matty. it's a terrible idea. Notice the stark difference in the annual 'I would do it again' post.

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[-] ducanukem 7 Points 9 months ago

Still, he was right when he advised not to give up a hobby or anything one loves for a woman.

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[-] [deleted] 1 Point 9 months ago

I'd say that you should only get married if you plan to have or already have kids together.

[-] MattyAnon 12 Points 9 months ago

Disagree strongly.

And here is why:

Would you offer the mother of your children a house and a car and a fat check and years of alimony to leave you, take the kids and break up your family? Of course you fucking wouldn't. Yes this is exactly what the marriage deal is. There is no motivation for her to stay, but there is payment for her to leave.

Marriage is PAYING THE MOTHER TO LEAVE. You'd be irresponsible to offer her this.

[-] [deleted] -1 Point 9 months ago

Well what do you want then? This is what the sexual revolution and 2nd wave of feminism brought you.

Would you have children without getting married? Would you just stop reproducing all-together?

[-] MattyAnon 7 Points 9 months ago

Well what do you want then? This is what the sexual revolution and 2nd wave of feminism brought you.

Right, so don't marry.

would you have children without getting married?

I might well, yes. Being married is bad for me and bad for my children. It gives me no rights and makes the mother MORE likely to leave, at great cost to me and the children.

To me it makes more sense to incentivise the mother to stay than to leave.

Would you just stop reproducing all-together?

Ok, I don't understand....

Why is marriage necessary or desirable (as a man) prior to having children? The "marriage is for kids" angle I see a lot, and I don't understand the reasoning behind it. Please help me understand this point of view.

[-] hiddenpleasures123 3 Points 9 months ago

This. There's absolutely no fucking point in getting married without kids. Even then, you might be able to manage your marriage but it won't be happily ever after.

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