Long time lurker here, first time poster trying to stick to my mantra of consumer less, produce more.
Disclaimer: Lifting is brilliant and a fantastic hobby, there really is no downsides apart from potential injuries. I'm not dissing it, i am merely stating that if you are serious about being the fittest, healthiest version of yourself lifting by itself will not fit the bill.
I have been lifting for 10 years now, i lifted before i found the RP and so does every half-Alpha wannabe cunt out there ( Don't think you are a demi god just because you lift ).Several years into lifting i remember attempting to go for a jog, it was embarrassing, the sweat, the pain, the excuses going through my head listing all the reasons why this is a waste of time " i'll lose muscle etc ". Even banging chicks after a certain amount of time was laboring, i realized i needed to change something. Ergo, i joined an MMA gym, " this will be easy enough, i lift, i am around 10% bf etc " how wrong was i, i had the flexibility and mobility of a crab and the gas tank of Conor McGregor, from that point on i researched how to implement cardio into my daily routine and increase my quality of life, i will present to you the benefits of adding cardio to your routine along with the studies and how my routine looks these days along with advice on how to get started.
Routine:
It has been 5 years since i started to take cardio seriously and my routine now looks as follows.
Monday:
Lift ( Fully body) AM
Yoga PM
Tuesday:
Jog 5km AM
MMA PM
Wednesday:
Lift ( Upper body) AM
YOGA PM
Thursday:
MMA AM
Walk 10km PM
Friday:
Lift ( Full body) AM
Jog 5km PM
Saturday:
Swim for 30mins and walk for 30 mins AM
Sunday:
Run 5km
Benefits and changes i have noticed
- I feel good all the time
- Dopamine achieved by worthwhile endeavors, not social media, tv etc
- I have learned a new skill via MMA which is a precious life skill in my opinion
- I now meditate everyday thanks to Yoga
- I can eat more, maintenance cals is now 3,300
- My work capacity has increased, i can now lift fullbody sessions with ease
- My blood circulation is top notch, better erections, faster clearing of waste products, more blood to the brain etc
- I am getting smarter and training my brains thanks to incorporating the listening of audiobooks/podcasts into my LISS ( low intensity cardio sessions )
- I now have multiple active hobbies and have expanded my social circle even thought it wasn't an issue, it's good to get insight from people from all walks of life.
- Cardio is proven to increase brain function and the ability to recall memories which in turn increases your chances of success, my career, financial life has improved 10 fold
- I stay lean year round with ease
- loss of bf%, easily visible jawline, no double chin etc
- better sleep
- More humble due to MMA and Yoga
- More present to the moment
Studies:
Cardio improves brain function:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/regular-exercise-changes-brain-improve-memory-thinking-skills-201404097110
Cardio and Hypertophy:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4523889/
Cardio and sleep:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4216726/
Cardio increases blood flow:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2278667/
How to incorporate it into your routine:
First off let me say that you should eating at maintenance atleast when adding cardio to your routine.
LISS cardio:Start off by adding a brisk 20 min walk to your routine everyday. This is LISS cardio, LISS cardio is something you could easily do for an hour or more. Build this up over time and LISS cardio for you will be jogging 5km everyday. This can also take the form of cycling, swimming etc. Pick which works best for you
Moderate to high intensity:
Take up a sport which requires physical effort and stick to it twice per week, ensure that you don't do this on the days you lift.
Additional " cardio": Not necessarily cardio but i feel it is just as important, try do Yoga folks, your sex life and joints will thank you along with your future self.
Will i lose all my gains ?
No, but you will have to replenish the calories you burn with food and also be realistic, instead of trying to progress every weight session scale it back to once per week, those of you lifting long enough will no that this is feasible after the noob gains run out. TIP: Ensure you eat high carbs after protein after every session, especially on two- a days. Try eat the fat in the middle of the day.
Who has time for this ?
You do, i work 45 hours per week, have children an LTR and also coach kids dojo twice per week, no excuses.
Final words:
Any questions, please reach out. Hope this adds value to your day and if one of you adopt my advice and become healthier and more athletic this post will be a success, keep on keeping on brothers.
robtormar 6y ago
I like your routine gonna sticky this bitchhh
MGTOWKNIGHT 6y ago
@ OP
I lift 4-5 a week with cardio throw in with 3 of my workouts for good measure.
Usually I will do HIIT workouts, or I'll do crossovers with my jump rope.
TBH, jump rope is by far the most effective cardio I have found.
It shreds you up like crazy.
livefast06 6y ago
Martial arts is like a game of physical chess. There are counters, faints, set-ups, rules and laws, and all of these forms of strategy translate in to making you more intelligent in your every day life. As you continue training, you'll notice you naturally become better at conversation (counter-arguments, faints and calling others' bluff, set-ups which become useful when gaming women, as well as colleagues to keep the conversation in your favour). These principles of strategy will become so developed in your mind, almost like a muscle, and will be universally applicable to areas of life outside of the gym.
Martial arts also teach you to remain stoic in your demeanor, and to leave emotions to the side. This is because defending your own life (whether real or simulated) can be hindered by your emotions. Your emotions drive your hormones, and can interfere with rational, direct and instinctual action which is crucial to defending your own life (because that is what you are training for, among other reasons as well). This stoic demeanor also assumes hypertrophy over time, similar to a muscle, where it becomes more capable and can be applied to everyday life outside of the gym. An example would be you get off work, you're dog tired and hungry, and your girl friend starts to shit-test you because she realizes a potential opportunity to gain temporary dominance over you. Instead of perceiving it as a threat and engaging with emotional defense, losing frame, and potentially losing sex for the night (and a win for her), you instead realize what she is doing, remove emotional responses, and instantaneously formulate a counter that puts her back on her heels and on the defensive - leaving her apologizing for her actions. You then move forward, on to the next conversation and have a relaxing evening. As a result, you win, and the LTR as a whole wins and maintains balance.
The obvious benefits of martial arts training include physical conditioning, improved appearance and aesthetics, increased confidence, regularly socializing with like-minded individuals, as well as being able to defend your life and the lives of your loved ones if that time comes.
KaizenRamen 6y ago
Def looking into MMA soon. Thanks for the post
mgtowandmysoginyftw 6y ago
Yeah I agree with you. Only lifting without stretching, mobility work and cardio is kind of stupid.
Martial arts are great for fitness, I used to box but my hands couldn't take it no matter how well I wrapped them.
I prefer to do things solo nowadays anyway.
ManSoldWorld 6y ago
Agreed.
If anybody here isn't a fan of cardio, something I've been doing is sprinting around with a basketball for a good 20-30 minutes before lifting. Shooting hoops and sprinting is way more interesting than treadmills or bikes, in my opinion.
BottleCap-SnackTrap 6y ago
I have a few questions if you don't mind answering some:
1)Is it practical to do cardio on the same day as lifting or should I split up the days for better progression?
2)When using the AB Roller, is the only way to tell if I'm doing it right is if I feel it in my lower back more than my abdominals?
3)Would Cardio Kickboxing HIIT be more effective of a cal burner due to the afterburn effect?
Last question:
4)I work 2-3 days Overnight Stocking for 7-9 hours (time differs depends on how much of a load is on the truck). I'm constantly speed walking, lunging, and squatting for that time frame. Is it accurate to guess that I would burn up to 800 cals in total for (for say) 8 hours and 30 mins?
My height is 6' 0 Age: 21.
I exercise 4 days out of the week plus my job.
My deficit ranges from 1952-2167.
Thanks for your time.
writewhereileftoff 7y ago
Read the Brain Rules by John Medina. It's basically what you said. Excercise is the best nootropic in excistence.
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You know what, why the fuck not. If there's one thing my mom taught me it was have an open mind, and try anything at least once. I'll give it a shot (and dancing is fun as hell imo so I'll probably like it).
whatsmyname17 7y ago
Good post. Good timing too because I just signed up for a bjj Gym yesterday and am starting on Monday. Only question is, why do you recommend only going on days you don’t lift? I lift Mon-Fri along with some running thrown in. But bjj is also only on weekdays. Do you suggest against it because you’d burn so many calories?
PsychedelicDentist 7y ago
Continual improvement is definitely the path - we have an almost unlimited potential. Don't listen to these faggot comments trying to hamster their way out of trying to be the best version of themselves possible.
The Red Pill is not all about just fucking chicks, its about self-actualisation.
BottleCap-SnackTrap 6y ago
Looking In the mirror with a define jawline, six pack abs and a better outlook would the best thing I would ever accomplish. That's why I've been losing weight since this January (I lost 40+ lbs so far).
PsychedelicDentist 6y ago
And what will you do after you accomplish that?
BottleCap-SnackTrap 6y ago
Maintain my weight (I want to maintain at 172) for 1-2 months. Then slowly make a bulk progression over the years.
I'm already in a major that's dealing with Cyber Security. I just have to buckle down and work hard in this so I can snatch up a good job position and rise from there on.
I also planned on getting a gaming computer as well in the future.
And one of my dreams is to go to E3 and various fighting game tournaments. I've been wanting to do this since I was 12 years old.
PsychedelicDentist 6y ago
Make it happen and more. Best of luck man
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TheStumblingWolf 7y ago
It'd stand to reason that with each activity being good for you on their own, they'd be equally good, or more, together.
U-94 7y ago
I run 5 miles every other day. Always have with my lifting routine. Gotta be lean.
miamiedge 7y ago
Can't agree more about cardio and brain function.
Everyone knows cardio = good heart = live longer. But my dad, a neurologist, has been going on for years about cardio and brain function.
Maybe that's why jogging is so much more common in upper and upper-middle class neighborhoods than anywhere else.
LotBuilder 7y ago
If you want to look like a badass, lift a lot. If you actually want to be a badass, do BJJ/MMA. Yoga is nice because you occasionally meet women that are a few notches above most tinder cum dumpsters. They are still Awalt but their bodies are great and their hamstering is more creative and centered.
JustSatan 7y ago
This is what I want to do. Need to implement BJJ and yoga asap.
Selentest 7y ago
Is cycling a good form of cardio? On a real bike i mean.
ssr401 7y ago
It is if you push hard enough, just like any form of cardio. Buy a fitness tracker or bike computer with a heart rate monitor and keep your heart rate above a certain level. Or do intervals.
Hobojoe- 7y ago
Might want to throw in a rest day in there.
I used to do something as intense or more intense than you, and I find that one rest day really helps.
JustinDX 6y ago
Rest day.. there are no rest days. Every hour of your free time should be dedicated to activites that better yourself. Being active is a major part of that free time, among learning, reading, interacting etc. Your body will tell you when you need to rest certain parts and this is where you can push its limits. Its up to you to be a pussy and quit, or be a champion and push through the pain.
"No pain no gain"
Hobojoe- 6y ago
Actually, you can do whatever you want on your rest days like read or learn. Just don't exercise because you can be prone to injuries and not resting and allowing your muscles to recover is detrimental to its growth.
Your gains will be better if you actually let your muscle rest.
SpecOpsAlpha 7y ago
Firearm training. Being proficient with a two quality firearms (or 3) is good for your psyche, if not your physical condition. Train with a light sidearm (I carry a .38) for carry, a heavier caliber for auto (I carry a 1911 in .45 cal), and a good quality rifle (I have several) for home use. Having a machete sharpened to razor sharpness in your garage and basement is also a good idea.
magx01 7y ago
The only guns a man needs are in his shirt sleeves.
NofapFrance 7y ago
truth, firearms training helps with focus, and "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst."
NeverLace 7y ago
Shame thats only possible in America.
SpecOpsAlpha 7y ago
Become proficient in edged weapons then.
Wty713 7y ago
Ive lost over 100lbs in about 4 years and I recently started bozing, and I totally agree with what you are saying. My energy levels have already gone up; I can literally do circuits my whole work out because my endurance has skyrocketed.
DeontologicalSanders 7y ago
For what it's worth, I hit Stronglifts 5x5 hard as fuck for 18 months, ate like a bear, and added minimum 60% to all of my lifts, while doing nothing else. No cardio, no yoga, no HIIT. I mean nothing.
The next summer I did some high-impact watersports shit for a whole weekend. Twisting, falling, putting torsional pressure on my knees. Now the cartilage behind my kneecap is fucked; my right knee pops and grinds when I bend it, and it hurts at night. My arms, legs, and back were strong as fuck in a linear sense, but all of the stabilizers that facilitate torsional strength had no work at all. I'm lucky it didn't result in a worse injury.
Don't just lift. Do at least 1-2 other activities, even if they're only occasional. Make sure you're well-rounded.
RossDDMarshalls 6y ago
Lift numbers? Jesus christ 18 months of Strong Lifts (the base routine as is) is ridiculous. Especially if you were eating to gain weight and get stronger. Beginner routines should not last much more than a few months.
DeontologicalSanders 6y ago
It was brutal and I definitely overdid it. I did get waaay stronger than I've ever been in my life, but that was all. It might not result in injury, but the routine will definitely limit you in terms of athletic potential if you rely too heavily on it. I'll probably make a post on it in the next few days that'll include my lift numbers, diet (LOL), and habits.
Sumsar01 7y ago
You we're most likely not strong if you did 5x5 for 18 months and compounds like squat strengthen your stabilizers a lot.
If anything you got injured because you did a high volume of something your not used to. While not having a lot work capacity. If you are even injured and not just experiencing some kind of no-cebo effect.
The_Chiselnator 7y ago
Have you tried being buried under hot volcanic ash then drinking a bucket of virgin llama milk mixed with the tears of virgins from the Andes and a drop of fresh nectar from a flower that has just popped open in the Himalayas while chanting "do you even lift, bro" ?
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DayGameChirality 7y ago
Every couple days someone comes and says that what you're doing isn't enough, you also have to do MMA/music/skydiving/help the poor/art/politics/activism/be a scientist/pat kids on the back or whatever.
it'd be fine if they just came and said "hey, i've got this hobby, here's what it did for me, here's what was hard, here's what you need to be wary of" but instead there's the narrative of "you're okay, but here's why I'm better because I do this one thing that you don't, you need to do this or else you're not good enough" got boring months ago. It's like if people here are unable to tell their story without the preacher/sergeant tone.
if you don't see this then I don't have anything else to say
TallSwaggOVO 7y ago
But lifting isn’t enough. I get the point the guy was trying to make, but the OP is right. Cut women out of the picture. Lifting itself isn’t enough in terms of exercise. You shouldn’t only lift. You need to make sure you have proper cardio, learning to defend yourself won’t hurt either. People on this sub need to stop thinking that the answer to everything is to “just lift bro.”
JamesP2018 7y ago
To the target audience it is the answer.
lateteatoto 7y ago
I'm curious, what are the "noob gains" you talk about ? I started lifting a small while ago and its just starting to show : is that "noob gain" ?
Caesar_Vercingetorix 7y ago
Running is the shit, it's one of the things you are literally made to do.
I recommend C25K to anyone looking to start. It helped me build up cardiovascular health after I quit smoking, and I couldn't run for more than 60 seconds without stopping.
arthurabyssal 6y ago
Humans evolved to become the best long-distance runners on Earth. Peristance hunters: hunting down prey until it collapses from heat exhaustion. And some people say long-distance running is stressful and raises cortisol, but I find it's like meditation: you enter a trance where you're focused but very relaxed, even going at a very fast pace. I like to run in Fivefingers or barefoot on some nice grass. Builds good calves. I think pavement-pounding is stressful with people and cars but in the woods or a big open field its lovely.
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winnnnnnnnn 7y ago
Just came here to co-sign BJJ. Redpill got me into lifting years ago but the BJJ.... mannnnnn "finding your thing" regardless of what it is could be making paper airplanes is a bliss every man/woman should experience. Of course, some people are just content to work eat sleep and drink. Currently train 9x a week (blue belt currently) at the "best academy" in the world depending upon who you ask in the BJJ community but easily top 5 so that may have something to do with my enthusiasm but man the things I am able to do to larger less skilled men (lower belts) who lift lol I feel like a cat playing with a mouse. I also have tons more confidence in general and have a completely self-reliant source of mental, spiritual, and physical happiness and that's the real secret. Thanks guys!
Stabiel 7y ago
As a heavy lifter that just had his first boxing training i would agree. I have a whole lot of conditioning to do.
TallSwaggOVO 7y ago
Lifting itself isn’t enough
People on this sub are funny, but lost. It proves that a lot of men, despite taking the red pill, still don’t get it. You are very ignorant to overall health if you think that lifting alone is enough. I’m getting tired of seeing so many post that say, “just lift”, as if it’s going to solve all of your problems. Lifting alone isn’t the answer to everything, and I don’t understand why people in the comments are disagreeing with you.
People keep bringing up women, but fail to understand that not everything is about women. If some of y’all have truly taken the red pill, y’all would know that. Lifting itself is good for strength training, and intimidation tactics. However, cardio is very important for overall health. What sense does it do you if you’re buff, but stiff like a stick and can’t even run for a good distance without grabbing your knees? What good is it to be strong, but can’t even defend yourself and you get your ass whooped? What good is it to lift, but you have health problems because you can’t even discipline right on a diet?
Some of y’all need a reality check and have a lot to learn. Good post OP, I agree with he message 100%
Irinam_Daske 6y ago
Please understand, that most men do neither lift nor cardio.
Would it be better to do lifting AND cardio? Certainly!
But if you are a couch potato, it is difficult enough to start (and keep doing) ONE, so for those, it is more important to start lifting that it is to start cardio, because lifting will get you fast VISIBLE gains and those will help with confidence as well.
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In 2015 I lost 100pounds from cardio alone. Was a overweight fat fuck I remember my first time attempting a mile I couldn’t even run half. But slowly worked my way up to 3-4 miles everyday for 6 days a week.. I noticed my brain function development I got smarter.. even got my own business.. was 5’11 247pounds.. my only regret was not lifting until last month.. lost 29% bf to 16.5
Bisuboy 7y ago
Since you also do yoga: What routine do you do and what are the benefits of yoga?
Cairnsian 7y ago
The connor mcgregor comment was funny hehehehe hehehehe
ntvirtue 7y ago
Five or so years doing serious grappling and you will easily be able to take 90 percent of the general population.....The self confidence that comes with that is insanely awesome
Arabian_Wolf 7y ago
I swim 3-4 times a week on non-consecutive days in medium intensity, it's my favorite cardio and can see myself doing it for a lifetime.
NeverLace 7y ago
Awesome post. This summer is the first time since discovering TRP that Ive had a conciderable ammount of spare time. Previosly I've worked night shifts and have had school, but I graduated last week and I got around 1.8k back in tax returns, so it opends alot of posibilities for me. I'm thinking of doing lifting/climbing/MMA and this was a nice guide on how to incorporate the routines needed to implement the hobbies!
Warped_Mindless 7y ago
Yes lifting is enough. Im glad you found a hobby you like but im seeing a disturbing trend of men on here who think they need to be some top 1% male just to attract a bunch of women who have nothing going on in their life except looking temporarily hot.
When you start fucking a dating super hot chicks you soon find that most of their BFs aren't anything special except they were usually above average in looks and knew how to push their buttons the right way.
phenethyljammin 7y ago
If anyone here thought that, then yes, they would be misled. But as far as I can tell that's not why OP is doing this and it's not the reason myself and many others want to improve ourselves physically and mentally.
Being the strongest version of yourself has little to do with impressing women or anyone for that matter. It's our right as men to be able to witness the true potential of our mind and bodies and to live life to the fullest with the greatest capacity to experience it that our genes and willpower would let us. Women are just side effect.
TallSwaggOVO 7y ago
No, lifting is not enough. Not everything is gonna get solved by lifting. This goes beyond just girls. You need cardio, etc.
BrownGummyBear 7y ago
I agree, I’ve seen some guys arguing they MUST use steroids in order to have a good enough physique but reality is, as long as you eat properly and lift consistently any man can get to the top 15%... most men are completely out of shape, it doesn’t really take much other than commitment to surpass them
Casanova-Quinn 7y ago
Can confirm. I live in a large east coast city, and I see hot girls with their boyfriends frequently. Most of them aren't über-chads, they're just above average in the basics (looks, physique, clothes, etc).
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whuttupfoo 7y ago
It’s about getting guys too.
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I have also seen a lot of men here saying to lift and hamstering saying that it's all for themselves when in reality most of them do it purely to attract women which is stupid and a waste of time.
thepanda37 7y ago
Where is the difference though? Whom do you think are they trying to attract women for? This is exactly the seeming paradox that TRP is built to solve - what women want for themselves from men, is for these men to do things "for themselves".
Doing things for "themselves", as well as continuously finding out what it means and why it's so, developing frame, for all of which some amount of lifting is essential - equals being successful with women and socially and general, that's what women want from men. It's two sides of the same coin, as social and sexual beings it's the same for us. Only women need the plausible-deniability shit-test of pretending to be "pure" and not doing something out of desire to have better chances of reproducing - which is pretty much everything that they do if they're not nuns or grandmas.
Omnibrad 7y ago
Looking at old men who can’t even carry their own groceries is my motivation to lift.
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90% of old men in my country are muscly as hell. That mandatory enrolment into the army really did the trick.
The_Chiselnator 7y ago
Obviously you don't lift. Which is fine. Nobody gives a fuck what you do.
The physical is that you become a huge beast and can look at your own body with pride and walk into a place and every pencil neck, noodle arms soy boy will scuttle while the women all get wet (PS: all women love huge beasts). But maybe NAWALT and some of them will enjoy your incredible talent in Fortnite. Just seen you claiming that "Fortnite gets panties wet. Confirmed" in your recent posts.
Guffaw! Guffaw! Guffaw! You ain't lifting, dude.
The psychological benefits are many (discussed here extensively)
The physiological benefits are many (discussed extensively)
Downtheshafts 6y ago
Right because eddy hall makes all the bitches wet
Tw4me 7y ago
Great thread , to guys who advocate swole = dominance https://youtu.be/0tzjcEgPWpM
DayGameChirality 7y ago
How the fuck is that a benefit? Now you need to spend even more time eating during a bulk.
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trentreznor95 7y ago
Happy you mentioned this. I still get weird looks from other guys at the gym because they see me warmup with a couple miles run on the treadmill or 10 miles on the elliptical. The secret to True lung and heart health is cardio. Who wants to be huge if you can't breathe?
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Damn straight. I'm starting college in the fall and looking at BJJ gyms and MMA gyms and will now consider yoga too. Already getting into cycling for cardio and doing a HIIT plan for maximum shreds. Have been lifting for 4.5 years now and it's not enough.
M23W0OH7FV2t 7y ago
I get to walk to the subway and back every weekday, as Denmark has some of the highest petrol prices in Europe. Pools are rare because of the weather and there is no pool in my building.
ssr401 7y ago
You converted the units wrong. Price of gasoline in Denmark is way less than $24.
If you don't have a pool then buy a wetsuit and go swim in open water.
flashbackquick 7y ago
I don't prioritize lifting anymore. I now focus on running, cross training activities, and lifting if I have the time. I have that luxury because I spent years lifting already so I have a base. But it's useless to be big if you can't go do cool stuff like climb mountains or go surfing or whatever, and look like a chump because your cardio sucks. I think the idea that you need to be a huge dude to get women is also overstated, being fit is well enough.
I think TRPers would do better to focus on becoming athletic rather than becoming strong. One is much more comprehensive than the other.
tonikroosofficial 6y ago
First get the body, then pursue everything else. (only for fat or skinny guys)
Fapisluv 7y ago
You lift to look good and you live an active lifestyle/do cardio for longevity.
ReturningSpider 7y ago
The biggest benefit I've noticed from martial arts is the calmness. You learn that when you're in a tight spot, getting emotional and spazzing out will only work against you. Calmly assessing the situation and strategically trying to get out is the best path. This carries over to pretty much anything else in life too
GodOfDinosaurs 7y ago
Don't know what the fuck is with these negative comments on here. Everything you said is true. Solely lifting will leave you stiff and heavy even if you look better than the average guy.
FinalPrince 7y ago
I've noticed that in this community for a while. Now I love lifting, but there always seems to be a low key backlash against the martial arts guys. It's because it has no direct, tangiable, visible impact on 'SMV' like getting stacked does - not as much anyway. But fighting teaches you so much more, contributes to so much more about being a man. Confidence and calm in tense situations, ability to take and give damage whilst maintaining your cool. Pain threshold, agility, discipline and so forth. Are you comfortable with the idea that some kid with a few months of muay thai could beat you down just because you look bigger? Who cares how much you're slaying if you can't keep your cool and defend yourself.
The_Chiselnator 7y ago
It is because most of these guys come off the chute with "lifting is not enough. Look at my Nostradamus Kung Fu Wrestling from Upper Congo"
It is possible to sell your idea without attacking the basic foundation here which is lifting.
By the way, having fought in 3 theatres of war for a period of 8 years with some of the hardest charging doorknockers in the US Army here is some advice: the only way to win a fight is not to get involved in one. Never fucking worth it.
Doesn't mean that you don't train. It means that you know that once you cross with your oppponent because he called you a faggot or stepped on your shoe or some other juvenile shit, there is no going back. One of you will most likely get killed.
I like the guys who use size as a warning. They never have to fight.
I will never throw a punch in anger at a fellow human being again. Until the day I die. And if I ever let a man provoke me to a fight, one of us is going to be dead. Nobody is worth killing.
FinalPrince 7y ago
That's a fair criticism; I love lifting as not just a fundamental, but a way of life, you'll get no argument from me there. Nor do I advocate wandering around getting in people's faces. But the confidence you project knowing you can handle yourself if necessary show through. I'm in agreement the best fight moves are diplomacy and booking it. But if shit's going down then it's going down. And by the way, you don't need to kill a guy because he threw one punch at you.
The_Chiselnator 7y ago
Yeah. You don't have to kill a guy just because he threw a punch at you. And of course knowing how to fight is important.
I prefer not to fight myself. I could if I had to but there is nothing in the last 11 years that I have found worth fighting physically for. I just walk away. Sure they will shout "Yeah! You better walk on faggot" and yes, I will walk away thank-you-very-much.
Fuck them.
Once the throwdown starts, you have no idea how it ends. The asshole has a vote. He too decides how it ends. Maybe he is crazy, drug addled, whatever. Maybe you do have to kill him.
A buddy back in the day got into a fight with some punk in a gas station, punk came at him half cocked from the waist, pal thought the punk had a gun, punched the punk on the chest, turned him quarter circle and banged him against the car's hood.
Punk died.
Cause of death: Commotio cordis. Prosecution: Assault with a deadly weapon (car), manslaughter in the second degree. 15 years imprisonment. Got out after 7.
Fucking pussies die easy.
BlackCraneStoic 6y ago
Realistically, martial arts mean jack shit with a glcok cocked in your face. Most of the backlash in relation to martial arts comes from hiw impractical it is in genuine life/death situations.
In the instance above it'd be better for your friend to have had a gun license with experience at the range. Hell, even a basic pocketknife is more practical in most hand to hand situatiins than just martial arts itself and it doesn't require years of sacrrifice to to learn how to use one.
FinalPrince 7y ago
Great wisdom man, that's a solid point about 'the asshole vote'. I guess I've got some ego to work on after all.
Gidanocitiahisyt 7y ago
I had a friend die in a fight over literally nothing.
At my highschool, we weren't allowed to wear solid-colored shirts at that school because of "gangs." A person who didn't actually attend our school was on campus, and my friend called him out on wearing a solid colored shirt. The dirtbag actually was in a gang and took it as some kind of offense. They got in a fight and it turned out that the kid had a knife.
He stabbed my friend once, and I guess he stabbed him in the right spot because he died within minutes. The punk is now in prison for a very, very long time for murder. I do cringe when I see posts on here where guys think they "can take on anyone." It's not worth it.
BottleCap-SnackTrap 6y ago
That angers me. Taking the life from someone who have no clue what's going on. Someone who's innocent in general.
Just thinking that really pisses me off. RIP to that dude.
BottleCap-SnackTrap 6y ago
That angers me. Taking the life from someone who have no clue what's going on. Someone who's innocent in general.
Just thinking that really pisses me off. RIP to that dude.
SpecOpsAlpha 7y ago
This is why you leave. You don’t call 911 or feel sorry for the guy who attacked you. Get in your vehicle and leave. If pulled over or caught: “I was afraid for my safety.”
Never be a Good Samaritan. Ever. A kid jumps in front of your car and you get out? All the gang around you sees is you standing and their friend on the ground. In this instance, stay in your car and call 911 and, if threatened, leave. Call 911 back and say you are afraid and leaving.
Big city cops publicly will tell you to call 911. IRL they will tell you to shoot until you can escape and do it. Don’t call 911; just GTFO and don’t call 911 under any circumstances.
BrownGummyBear 7y ago
But a true Chad will fuck anyone up! Walking away from fights is soooo beta! /S
BlackCraneStoic 6y ago
Fuck anyone up to wind up behind bars for 1/5th + of his life right? Makes soo much sense.
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BottleCap-SnackTrap 6y ago
A true Chad knows his limitations and will constantly play Chess within his mind fid every encounter.
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fuck off some people actually have jobs
Korque_3 6y ago
No need for the negativity bud
Gobraves44 7y ago
Have you tried cryotherapy
Herdsengineers 7y ago
I love martial arts training. Started when I was 13. I don't get mat time much anymore simply because there isn't a decent dojo near my house so I can't make it to any classes at a place that is worth a damn with any regularity.
That said, I'd recommend everyone get at least a few years of training in a place that doesn't require contracts, doesn't do tournaments, and has all mild mannered (except on the mat while training!) and polite yudansha and owners.
tonikroosofficial 7y ago
I did boxing for a bit and swimming, I love both but it takes too much time. Just going to focus on lifting, once I have financial freedom I'll get back into boxing and swimming.
NofapFrance 7y ago
just buy a skipping rope brah
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MagistriVerborum 7y ago
Pfft, what a weak excuse. You have time for anything make time for.
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blownnnn 7y ago
I do a lot of actives and sports. Some seasons and a year I gotta take off a sport because of injury.
CanAm10004 7y ago
It can be argued that heavy lifting without excess rest is cardio.
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MMA fucks you up more than it helps if you're not a expert at it and most of us ain't experts. So yes, lifting is enough.
SpecOpsAlpha 7y ago
This is true. I have broken bones, strains, sprains. These prevent training in everything.
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Lifting is enough for ME. Attracting women is a side benefit. I love how I look after lifting for years.
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Who said anything about committing violence? Defending myself & exercise would be my goal if I chose to do MMA.
Not every masculine activity is toxic like the women would have you believe. We need to get that out of our heads.