This post is dedicated to all the women that were, are, and will be around us. For it is necessary that we, the captains of the ships of our lives, worshipers of the Church of Iron, know the power of the sirens that live among us.
The captain and the siren
We have all heard stories or watched movies with pirates. Men going on a quest to discover new lands or hidden treasures that nobody ever dreamed of having. Bold, courageous men, that would kill anything and everything that stood in their way towards what they wanted. Until one day, when traveling on board, a beautiful, unheard of song breaks the silence. Such a suave voice, singing in the distance, melts the captain's heart. He looks around him, and out of nowhere sees a beautiful creature, with the body of a woman and tail of a fish, calling for him. He has never seen such beauty, so he jumps out of the ship, into the sea, swimming with all his power towards the siren. He gets closer, and closer, and closer. Suddenly, he senses her scent. He gets closer and sees her beautiful face and big breasts. He could feel her heat. She holds out her hand, he reaches for it. She grabs him, pulls him towards her. And when they're about to kiss, the siren dives with him into the water, drowning and killing him.
How the story applies in the real world
To those who carefully read the sidebar, we are aware of the fact that women, through their nature, try to sabotage us, in order to see if we are really strong men with a desire and purpose in life. It is what it is. From my experience, they can do that in the traditional way, through the good old shit-tests, imposing jealousy, being hot and cold and so on, or through more unorthodox ways, like singing to you, making themselves so vulnerable and innocent in front of you, being submissive to a tee, appearing weak etc. The latter enumeration I call the song of the siren. Why? Because it attacks your feelings and makes you...
Fall in love - The shit test you failed
But wait OP! Isn't love beautiful? Isn't love what draws men and women together? Aren't you just an angry incel who hates women and jerks off to porn?
Uh, no. I used to be an incel that jerked off to porn though. Guess when? Correct, when I was deeply in love. Love isn't what draws men and women together, it's what draws men towards women. It is a veil put on your eyes so that you are blind, and can't see anything. Guess when all the branch-swinging, all the cheating and all the lies start to happen? When you have the veil of love over your eyes. Because in that moment, the woman knows you can't see anything, and you only guide yourself in your relationship based on what you hear. What do you hear? Her words. For when she knows her words are the only thing you believe, she can do anything she pleases. This is the phase where you, the captain of the ship, are slowly drowning in the water. Shit tests up your throat, never returned calls, nights when you don't hear from her, your death being her dumping you. The crueler death is when you hear she cheated on you. And even then, too many captains return to the one that brought them sorrow and death of the soul.
This captain's scar
Ok, OP, I get it, what you said seems true. But are you just making stories up in your head, or have you actually experienced the charms of a siren?
Of course I did. And for that, let me tell you the moment when a siren almost clawed me, and left me with a scar:
About two years ago I met a girl. Smart, short, curly hair, with an accent that I deeply enjoyed hearing. I gamed her flawlessly and we fucked. I was out of town with a project. Strong chemistry on this one.
On the last night of my stay there, I was in her room at 2AM after the fuck of her life, she was on top of me, and said "I want to sing you my favorite song". I smiled and said "Let's hear it". Her voice was angelic. I haven't heard anyone sing that good in my life. After she finished the song, she said "That's a gift for you, so that you would never forget me". I wouldn't say I fell for her, but I definitely stumbled hard at that point.
Her image slowly faded in my head over time, but it went away the slowest.
Flipping the script
OP, a lot of beta men would've fell incurably for that girl if they were in your position! And knowing that all women are like that, especially the beautiful ones, how can I enjoy their companionship without getting screwed?
Good question. I will break this down in steps, so that it's easier to digest:
- Fall in love with other things, and only "like" women. You're the captain, you have other shit to take care of other than a woman. You are here to hunt for the treasure, to find the Fountain of Youth, to conquer and lead. I love my mission, I love working out, I love investing in my mind, and I love my two dogs. My beautiful brunette girlfriend with big tits, nice legs and ass? Well, I "like" her. But I'd definitely pick my dogs if I had to choose.
- Get "love for women" out of your system. Love is not what Disney defined it. Love is not what romance movies defined it. Love is a power play, a manipulation tool, a shit test. Internalize that, and you'll laugh next time you hear a fellow man saying "I'm so in love".
- Recognize the feminine ways of trapping you. Read the sidebar. I stated some of them here, even. Don't give up your balls for free. In fact, never give up your balls.
- Learn to say no. Refusing someone means power. Most men do not refuse women out of two reasons: lack of other options and fear of hurting women. You won't hurt shit. You'll wet pants. You can't go out with her to get ice cream, you need to study. You can't help her with a project, you have to go to the gym. You can't go to her place when she wears red panties and nothing else, you promised your brothers you'll go out with them.
The result of all this
Fine, fine, ok. I kind of get it...but if I do all this will I get a woman that will be forever loyal to me and never cheat on me?
Bro, chill. Stop feeding yourself this happy forever after bullshit. Understand one thing: You will never be granted lifelong loyalty from anyone, man or woman, irrespective of context. Mankind is opportunistic. And if you were in a relationship and an HB10 would beg to suck your dick and swallow you all, without any consequences, you wouldn't do it? Spare me.
However, be the captain of your ship, don't let yourself fooled by love and women, and yes, you will attract the kind of women that will stick by you, without cheating. There's one more thing to understand: women are not genetically cheaters, both sexes are. The only difference is that we're pushing their cheater buttons because we are weak, lazy and unmotivated. Nobody with the least amount of sef-respect settles for that, man or woman.
I hope that you enjoyed this post as much as much as I've enjoyed writing it. I also hope that I brought a new perspective on some pre-existing theories, and also that maybe you've learned something new from this.
byom-fakemail-de 5y ago
"And if you were in a relationship and an HB10 would beg to suck your dick and swallow you all, without any consequences, you wouldn't do it? Spare me." true spoken
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Pieisgood186 5y ago
In the words of a famous poet: "I only love my bed and my mama I'm sorry."
-Aubrey Graham
TheTriviaMan 5y ago
"Don't pull up at 6am to cuddle with me"
-Abe Lincoln
Rares5555 5y ago
She said do you love me, I tell her only partly
I sing this to my girl all the time. Always gets her mad lol
surfingjesus 5y ago
"It was written like Nas but it came from Quentin."
-Terrence Thornton
pct92 5y ago
Drake soft af and doesn't even write his own lyrics but this line is truuu tho haha
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briand932 5y ago
“Fall in love with other things, and only “like” women.”
As a frequent TRP reader, this quote is in my opinion the biggest takeaway from this post because it is rarely explicitly said. Be in love with yourself. Be in love with you hobbies. Be in love with your friends and family. But don’t be in love with a girl. This will cause oneitis, the bane of our existence. You like thinking about a girl you currently can’t date/get over for 12 hours a day? No, I didn’t think so. Invest your time, energy, thoughts, and emotions in yourself and the things around you that make you better.
1212121014 5y ago
If you drop your life for a woman, you cease to exist as who you were when you met. I think that’s why women lose interest in a man if he seems to not have a life of his own.
TheRealJesusChristus 5y ago
„Bu.. but what if I currently date her?“
No still dont „love love“ her. Think about her leaving. This shouldnt hurt you in the slightest. Its just a „whatever“-thing. You can get another girl if you want. She should be thankfull that you currently dont.
futmut 5y ago
'' However, be the captain of your ship, don't let yourself fooled by love and women, and yes, you will attract the kind of women that will stick by you, without cheating. There's one more thing to understand: women are not genetically cheaters, both sexes are. The only difference is that we're pushing their cheater buttons because we are weak, lazy and unmotivated. Nobody with the least amount of sef-respect settles for that, man or woman ''
Another clueless dumbass who thinks a women cannot cheat if you follow his idiotic advices...Go ahead dummie, get into a LTR and come back again and tell us how well did that work ;)
1212121014 5y ago
There are women out there who don’t cheat. Just like how there are men out there who don’t do that.
Classy_Amir 5y ago
Let's speak science here. What people call "love" is just a chemical reaction in the brain that causes us to breed. It hits hard and it will slowly fade away. Above is a great post as how to keep it going on. It's a little harsh but it's the truth. People will cheat.
And I like how this post isn't "sexist", as it addresses both genders.
dal2k305 5y ago
It’s possible to love a woman and also have a life outside of her. I think the mistake a lot of guys make is that they obsessively love one girl. Girls make the same mistake too. Co-dependency is an ugly thing.
Guy if you love someone that’s fine but DONT neglect your friends, hobbies, work, family etc. Have a life outside of her that she is not a part of. Watch how by doing that she will always be on your dick.
RedPilledGodEmperor 5y ago
I have seen so many dudes who make the mistake of pretty much barely hanging out with the dudes they are friends with, once they get a girlfriend. It's pathetic.
Cesare_MA 5y ago
Honestly idk how you wouldn’t get sick of someone real fast if you obsessed over one person like that. For every sport, every hobby, almost any school subject, the more you learn about it the more there is to learn as higher levels of that topic open up to you. It’s the exact opposite with people. You can learn everything about a person in a month whereas you could devote a quarter of your life to number theory or MMA and still have more you can do.
dal2k305 5y ago
Hey man I made this very mistake with my first “girlfriend” “love” whatever. The relationship turned into a nuclear bomb and blew up in my face.
Co-dependency mirrors drug addiction. You would think a drug addict would get tired of doing heroin, it’s always the same feeling, but that’s how addiction functions. It’s beyond logical reasoning.
Vox-Triarii 5y ago
This is a good post. I got married decades before I ever heard about RP, but we're still married to this day with 6 children. I love my wife, but I'm not in love. As you said, emotions like that distort your logic if you're not able to compartmentalize and master them. Even though both my wife and I had an extremely traditional upbringing, this was still important for me to realize.
Foobyx 5y ago
It was studied that after some years the passionate love of the beginning change into a more, very deep companionship. You are still taking love, but your brain had adjust to your wife since.
I don't see any problems with it anyway, the important is to be happy.
StrawberryBlondeHaze 5y ago
Is anyone really “in love” after decades of marriage, RP or not?
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Retstortion 5y ago
Yes, when we have oneitis is when we can no longer see the signs that she’s garbage.
Love is a powerful hormone that can blind us. It’s why we’re here, we all got burned.
kurdishpower01 5y ago
Like depression love is just some chemicals released in our brains which makes us feel like shit.
When I had oneitis I directed that energy into improving myself. 'If I do this she might like me. If I do this thing she might want to talk to me'. Not the best mindset but it allowed me to improve myself thanks to those chemicals. (the motivation is big).
If you have onetis, redirect that energy into other things. If you have depression don't look at depressive things but go outside.
Oneitis is not the worst thing that can happen if you have a good mindset.
fridgefucker12 5y ago
So true. I look back over my relationship now that it's been over for a minute and just red flags EVERYWHERE that I ignored.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
Same man, you live and learn.
Jack4au 5y ago
My buddy found my now ex on tinder recently, the only red flag I got was a lack of a father. Even one can be too many.. granted that's a pretty big one. 2 yr ltr, lifting and reading TRP the whole way. AWALT
Retstortion 5y ago
It’s hard to see her as a problem when she’s the only piece of pussy around
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Even if you spin plates, there will always be 1 that will stand out. It is our duty to guard our emotions.
fridgefucker12 5y ago
Funny how that works, they'll slowly make sure you only got eyes on them, only want them, then once that's complete they leave.
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1212121014 5y ago
Yes!! It’s all about having a spine. If you fall over a woman she will not respect you (although six years into my relationship I don’t mind if my husband shows vulnerability, but that is a different relationship stage). Hit the nail on the head.
wild_deer_man 5y ago
I thought this was quality post until I saw these fallacies:
Can you elaborate on how exactly you choose what to feel towards anyone? Are you a robot that also can choose when to be angry, or sad or happy?
raging_mongoose 5y ago
You can control that, if you're in love with your mission (I mean really in love like thinking about it 24/7 and putting most if not all of your resources toward it) then other things naturally will have less room for them in your heart.
On a side note love means unconditionnal love it s hard to control attraction and feelings but its not hard not to love someone unconditionnaly.
I frequently tell my GF I love her when she does something good for me but she knows through my actions that my mission and myself come first (frequently tells me that I dont love her as much as she does in a begging way).
There's plenty of girls and despite being slightly different they all kinda look and act the same, but your mission is unique, it's beautifull because its the reflection of your existence on the world, no one will have the same as you.
wild_deer_man 5y ago
What you wrote is 100% purified bullshit.
There is a HUGE difference between having an obsessive onitis that throws your life into chaos, and having genuine feelings of love and attraction towards a woman.
What you and other spergs of your type say is that you are too afraid of yourself, afraid that having feeling will make you a beta bitch, so you rationalize it by saying feelings are dangerous.
No, being a man who has issues that cause onitis is dangerous, not the emotions. You have it all wrong.
If you are weak with a woman it is not bacause you have feeling for her. Woman never see feelings as weakness, they see weakness as weakness. They see fear as weakness.
raging_mongoose 5y ago
My message didnt come from a place of fear but from reality.
I know my mission will bring me more than any girl. I never said not to have feelings for someone but not to love them UNCONDITIONNALY are you really going to tell me you love your Gf unconditionnaly ? That if you found her naked in your bed surrounded by 5 men you would still love her ? That if she disrespected your family or yourself you would still love her ?
If not then we re on the same page if yes then I proudly tell you that i am indeed one of those spergs that think more highly of his mission and himself than a woman.
wild_deer_man 5y ago
I will not have around a woman who does not love and respect me, but not having or showing feelings towards her will not prevent her from doing so.
This is why feelings are a dynamic thing. A healty man with strong boundaries will be very angry at a woman in a situation you described, and anger will replace love.
Feeling are self expression and are involuntary reactions. They are used by beta males as manipulation tools, the same way they negotiate sex they negotiate emotion.
Rares5555 5y ago
Are You implying that you are in fact a slave to your mind and feelings?
Yes, of course you can control what you believe and feel towards somebody.
And if you look into psychology, you’ll find that people indeed can choose to be happy, sad or angry.
1212121014 5y ago
I have heard that successful marriage partners consistently like one another but may not always love one another. The passion ebbs and flows throughout time. If you always like your partner, the friendship and respect between both people will never die.
wild_deer_man 5y ago
Please show me the psychology you are referring to.
Thoughts and emotions are two very different things.
chronogumbo 5y ago
You use thoughts to influence your emotions. It comes from introspection. Sometimes I'll have a thought, and I'll identify its origin as being from a conscious or subconscious emotion (think anxiety, or jealousy). Then I'm able to say "you feel this way because of [event] or how you think naturally." Then I'm able to ponder the feeling and the thought and internally discuss it's validity, and how I am able to alter the thought either through action or a change in mindset.
Rares5555 5y ago
Just read any of the classics in psychology, or start with Freud and Jung (psychoanalysis).
wild_deer_man 5y ago
This is why I asked you, because as someone who actually is familiar with some of their work, your answer is really laughable.
Don't try to look smart by name-droping, unless you wanu to correct me and point me to an actual reference?
Rares5555 5y ago
I’m not name-droping. I am familiar with their works as well. And if we’ve both read them, give me a theory of theirs that states that people cannot control their emotions and thoughts, I’ll read more into it and say you’re right.
soothslayer2k 5y ago
Do the work yourself. Also look into Buddhism and Stoicism. You'll realize all your emotions are based on ego's desire and attachment. You can let go of it and live in the moment in peace.
wild_deer_man 5y ago
It is so easy to write "smart" things here...
When you achieve that level of enlightenment and talk from experience, I might be interested in listening.
marian5567 5y ago
As Radiohead said in There, There: " there's always a siren sailing you to shipwreck."
ursavs 5y ago
The writing reminds me of the book of the pook. Great job.
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10J18R1A 5y ago
Obligatory Patrice O'Neal
SaggyT 5y ago
I have been on Patrice binge lately and I have to say this guy is a genius
Woodbroker 5y ago
Goddam, oneitis is like a disease thats just incredibly hard to cure, at least for me. Had it three times in my life, first time literally took over two years, each time I’ve gotten over it a little quicker than before, but just damn. God I hope I’ve developed an immunity.
Htowngetdown 5y ago
I’m with you. I developed oneitis with one of my plates even while others were in rotation. Didn’t know how bad I had it until she ended it because I “wasn’t treating her right” aka I wouldn’t commit. I failed that shit test badly (very badly) because I got blackout and sent her every mean thing I could think of and just reacted very poorly. Thankfully I’ve sobered up and will not respond to the next few texts she sends.
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elogie423 5y ago
Short answer: don't invest too much of your time/energy, especially at your age. Feel the good things, enjoy your time with her, have great sex. Always keep yourself as your center with her being a lovely moon for you. If she flies out of orbit, so be it.
I'm old enough now to know that chances are (probabilistically speaking, could be wrong in this instance...) grinding on a dude for a minute likely translates to much more. Ive experienced this first hand. The thing is you are better off not believing her words about her actions, but using how you feel about it to guide your decisions and actions. If you don't care about what likely/possibly happened cool keep her around. If you do care, don't let one 18 yr old waste your mental energy.
Plus, always keep in mind she decided to "grind" with a dude for "a minute" knowing it would bother you, and attempted to keep it from you. Ask yourself what possibly would be different the next time? Oh, she said she's "sorry" and showed you emotions? Lol. Also note how she got caught in the spotlight and tried to flip the blame on you for something that happened after her indiscretion. Thats some woman-fu right there. It doesn't make any sense so don't play into it, it is only a defense mechanism for her to not feel bad.
Game other girls, drop her or keep her, just make a decision and stick with it. Oh, and lift.
Best of luck, son.
dontgetupsetman 5y ago
Haha already do lift, had to stop lacrosse and lifting a month ago due to hernia surgery but I’m getting back into it. And yea I’m sorta back into the relationship but I’m not feeling anywhere close to what I was before for her, kinda just in it for the sex but also low key know I’ll still miss her once I really let her go
mleko69 5y ago
It's always like this, because having sex with her results in the shot of body pleasing dopamine. In longer run your brain created a connection that her=dopamine=happiness.
If you think you'll miss her or something then I have an advice. Watch some hardcore porn and then reimagine that your gf is the one fucked there. In no time you would feel an utter disgust to her. Works every time for me.
dontgetupsetman 5y ago
Well fuck me that would work. Yea I have utter disgust thinking about her dancing with another dude in the first place. Kinda went against my own morals getting back with her
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pct92 5y ago
Boiii...... If you reread that and that was your homie what would you tell him? C'mon g... She's playing you. I've been to plenty of raves and concerts. Trust me they did not only grind for a minute let alone do nothing else. She probably made out with him, let him cop a feel, and yes he probably got to finger her with his dirty fingers. Hahahaha. People do grimy ish when they're on one at raves. And if she's going to these things without you (I know you can't go cause of age) but she's out there fishing boii. She tryna find the next to hop on you. You just happen to be the one she's on for now.... LOL I can't convince you to leave someone cause that's fucked up. Only you can convince yourself to leave or she's going to convince you leave (i.e. by cheating on you and hooking up with other dudes & when you find out she'll still try to trap you and get you back. Lol)
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BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
Get the mentality...abundance mentality...and especially at your young age.
You're young, very young and have yet to experience the spectrum of what it's like with women - the good, the bad, the crazy, and the wonderful.
I'm not saying go wild, rush down the mountain and have wild sex with every woman you run into...not at all, but don't let your youth and "the lies" you were taught about women cloud your judgment. Do what's in YOUR best interest - first and always.
Also - don't place women on some pedestal. They are not mythical creatures and worthy of unearned respect. Make them earn your respect EVERY DAY. Men have to jump through numerous hoops, navigate the 12 Trials of Hercules, crawl through broken glass, and perform reverse cheetah flips to simply PROVE his worth to a woman...all for the chance to have the honor of some woman's presence, time, and attention.
Make women EARN your time, effort, attention, loyalty, commitment, respect...and should you choose it - your love.
Additional note: ALWAYS protect yourself to avoid STDs, avoid "accidental pregnancies," and be wary and aware of false rape accusations. This stuff is real. Be safe out there.
pct92 5y ago
Lol da fuq did you even say..... You kinda showing your age with this response. It's okay. You'll learn after a couple girls playing you haha
Funny you look down on NoFap when I think it's weak that your turn to a computer to relieve yourself rather than talking to actual girls. The ability to control ones urges is more powerful than giving in.
Ianchez 5y ago
It will happen again, she's saying that out of fear of losing you.
dontgetupsetman 5y ago
Yea that’s what I told her, and she said well it won’t ever happen again because she never wants to lose me or anything like that to happen again then told me it could have been worse and that it was only dancing
Ianchez 5y ago
The thing is, she can't make that promise because she can't predict what she would feel in the future.
All you should care, is if you feel wanted in the present, follow her actions, not her words.
dontgetupsetman 5y ago
Yea good discussion man, definitely ending it for my own mental well being because she really did just shatter all the trust I had built w her. She was always telling me how much her past cheating boyfriend fucked her up, and always was sending me tweets and shit about “I would never have my man looking stupid ever” and even rubbed that shit in my face by telling me “some guy tried dancing w me and I got right the hell out of there” before my homie told me what happened. Now that I’m thinking about all of this I’m wonderin why the fuck I took her back.
TrumpOrTreason 5y ago
Happily married man here, 15 years.. OP is right. I still like my wife, but OP is 100% correct.
Ezaar 5y ago
The power of myth.
Thanks for posting.
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phenethyljammin 5y ago
Is that reference to Joseph Campbell's book of the same name intentional? Regardless, I recommend anyone reading this to check it out.
Ezaar 5y ago
To an extent, it was more of a comment as to the power of myth and analysis.
I will have to take that reading on after the summer semester.
trplurker 5y ago
Another one...
Ok first you need to define exactly what this nebulous "love" is. In English we have one word, the Greeks had four to six depending on the context. I like the Greek system because they explored this idea far more then later societies did.
What I see here is you attempting to project the male version of "Love" onto a female and then getting angry when the result isn't what you would expect from another man. That's a very bad idea in any situation.
For women "love" is typically thought of as the Greek version of eros, or sexual love. They "love" you for the duration of their sexual attraction and when that's gone they cease to "love" you. You can indeed get that supreme loyalty from a women, you merely need to dickmatize her and manipulate her emotions such that she's wanting to fuck you non-stop 24/7. Doing this is really hard and usually far beyond the ability of most men today.
For men "love" is typically thought of as the Greek version of agape, or unconditional love, the love for ones children. Love can also be philia, which is the brotherly love between men who have a shared experienced or comradeship. That friend that you know you could call at 2am to help you dispose of a body.
There are others, but these are the types we're largely dealing with. So ask yourself, which love are you expecting, which love are you feeling, and how can you create those emotions. This is from someone who's dickmatized a large number of women in my eviler days, you get what you put in and need to be Machiavellian as fuck.
SaggyT 5y ago
Really insightful! This comment should be higher up
SaggyT 5y ago
Also, you sayd: "you get what you put in", what would that look like when you "dickmatize" a girl or on the other, hand supplicate her and become her beta servant of a boyfriend?
And can a woman ever show agape to her man, or is this kind of love kept only for their children??
trplurker 5y ago
It's almost entirely for her children, a woman feeling unconditional love for a man is almost entirely against her biological nature. That kind of love is very self sacrificial and female humans only sacrifice for their children. There is also philia, which is a brotherly / comrade type love that a women might have for her man and only if they've been through some shit together.
As for what dickmatized women look like, that's a state where a women feels chronic insecurity about a dude abandoning her while also having a high degree of sexual attraction to him. Her biology is demanding her get his babies and resources. This is a powerful weapon in a dudes tool kit but needs to be careful because this will cause a normal girl to turn into a psycho stalker ex.
1212121014 5y ago
Women love in many different forms just like men. Not every relationship is marriage material, not every experience is romantic. Not every form of love is for a partner. Women are people, too, and people are complicated.
trplurker 5y ago
This is purely within the context of this discussion, which is the difference of what a man means with "I Love you" vs a woman's "I Love you". Each gender perceives love differently and understanding that perception is key.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Love is a beautiful, romantic, caring, self-sacrificing thing and it truly exists in the form exactly as described.
All you have to do to receive this love is to be born a female human and make a thinly veiled pretence that you feel the same way about a male human while he's young and gullible.
In order to protect the pretence for as long as possible, later redefine the previous failed (exploited) love as not being "true love". In emergencies when the young male becomes a bit less gullible bring out the classic "not all women are like that" and follow up with shaming language like "you misogynistic sexist" until the gullible male human falls back in line and believes that women are his equal again. If this fails, accuse him of being an oversexed virgin and threaten with dying a lonely old man. And if this fails, find a rich lonely old man. Hopefully the get gullible again later in life.
alucard1uk 5y ago
Good read and some good tips and ideas. I managed to piss off my girl friend whom I'm in a LTR with because she asked me who was my number 1 to which I said my me and then my cats 2nd. She was pissed off then went to sleep, woke up the next day and she apologised. Also knocked back sex a few days ago, she spat the dummy and rinse and repeat the above. I didn't grovel nor did I apologise, I said what I said and that's it.
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
"Women are NEVER the focus of a man's life, but an addition to everything else he's doing to focus his self-improvement and personal development." -R. Tomassi paraphrase.
This rings true. It sounds cold and harsh, but there is method, reason, and logic associated with these words. Men who place women on super-high pedestals of worship simply come off as super-beta and needy.
The point is not to denigrate or marginalize women, but there is no reason to offer unearned respect and praise for simply being a woman. There's too much of that going on already. Men have to EARN respect and secure their place in the world EVERY. DAMN. DAY. Women have to do the same - earn a man's respect, dedication, admiration, and love.
The bottom line is that if a man places direct focus, effort, and energy in ALL the important areas of life (health, fitness, education, career, finances, assets/investments, intelligence, confidence, leadership, life-experience, etc.), he will be able to attract, generate interest, and obtain commitment from a woman who agrees to his terms, conditions, requirements, and standards for the desired relationship.
If a woman fails to meet or maintain expectations and standards, is disloyal, disrespectful, or disruptive to a man's life, she's summarily dismissed and is replaceable.
As long as a man focuses his OWN self-improvement and continued development, he is fine to move on with his life and experience less suffering/emotional turmoil when a relationship ends for whatever reason(s).
Men are expected to invest effort, time, energy, and emotion into relationships. There's no real problem with that. However, the issue is when many women have spent years offering effort, time, energy, emotion, and cheap, easy, no-strings-attached and enthusiastic sex to men who don't deserve their attention. The added insult is from women with expectations and a long list of demands after squandering their best years and emotion with deadbeats, losers, and attractive men who used them for easy sex and pass-around fun.
Men who have self-assurance, high value, and understand their worth simply avoid these women and are smart enough NOT to invest their future with a "reformed" Party-Girl or man-hopping Carousel Rider.
alucard1uk 5y ago
And this my brother from another mother is why I respect the shit outta and love trp! Couldn't have said it better myself! Simple advice that can literally change a man's life.
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abudun79 5y ago
I respect the decision, but I can't help it, "don't fall in love with a woman" sounds like a buffer to me. A buffer to avoid the chance of being hurt badly once, after enjoying life for years.
Maybe I haven't fallen hard enough to understand. Or maybe I never lost my mind over being in love. Or maybe I've had the guts to push through bad times without damage and don't fear repetition.
zuixihuan 5y ago
It sounds like a buffer because it is a buffer. I can’t even believe this post has upvotes. I guess it’s just because it is well-written. But the bullshit is so strong it’s mind-boggling. A man will realize that any love has the potential to end in heart break, but also recognizes that’s part of life. He also will be strong and aware enough to keep his eyes open to any deceit or betrayal. And strong enough to survive any of that shit.
This whole thing reads like some teenage boy who just broke up with his first girlfriend would write. The boy just happens to be the best writer in his senior English class.
Rares5555 5y ago
“A man will realize that love has the potential to end in heart break, but also recognizes that’s part of life.”
Oh man! I beg this saucepan will hurt if I smash it against my head. Let me go ahead and see how it feels! Again, and again, and again!!! (some of us learn not to fucking do that after some time, y’know?)
Bro, I’ve had my heart broken in the past, I’m not the only one. I didn’t write this from a place of heartbreak. Also, some things which I said in my post are reiterations of older gold RP beliefs. No, I’m not a newbie, you can fuck off with that bullshit.
Also, saying that I should be a man and accept love for what it is and go for it, loving a fickle, insincere woman because that’s “manly” is actually your bullshit, that I stopped reading half way through.
Looks like the most common problem with a lot of dudes like you is that the pill got stuck in your throat.
Good luck.
zuixihuan 5y ago
You do what you want, bud. It’s only you who is going to live a sad life if you don’t love someone. I’ve loved plenty of women and it’s been really easy not to have my heart broken. It’s called just don’t be a moron.
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Couldn't have said it better. This post really just makes OP seem like a huge pussy and is sulking over a broken heart. Anyone who has fully internalized what it truly means to be RP is too headstrong to be affected by the fear of failure and heartbreak.
This is literally as stupid as saying "Weightlifting will draw you in with muscle gainz and boosted confidence, but beware of the Siren known as I N J U R Y. So basically you shouldn't lift because you could get injured."
Yes you CAN, but if you know what you are doing, it will all work out. Fully internalize RP principals and actually act on them, instead of reading a couple posts and lying to yourself that you're fully awoken.
This post literally made me more retarded just reading it, and I hate seeing it especially because of the chance of the BP bullsht subconsciesly rubbing off on me. There needs to be a buffer between anyone being able to post, because it's the newbies that don't fully know what RP is that upvote this and spread even more misinformation to other people...setting them up for failure.
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Buchloe 5y ago
I didn't get that at all. I got that don't be blinded by love and get sucked in and turned into a little bitch. You can love somebody, but have self respect and a life of your own.
zuixihuan 5y ago
What were you reading then? Cause the author literally says, "Fall in love with other things, and only 'like' women."
Everything I read was just I'm just too scared to open up and love somebody. I don't care how "Disney" it sounds. It takes strength and courage to open up and love someone. Not the other way around.
Buchloe 5y ago
Yeah I guess I put my own interpretation on it, he doesn't actually say that.
Honestly, I'm just too jaded and guarded anyway to probably ever "fall in love" with someone anymore, even if I do love and care about them.
daffy_duck233 5y ago
Nobody can hurt you if you don't think it's hurtful.
BurnDownTheMission68 5y ago
If it doesn’t resonate it means you’ve never been there
But it is 100% reality
Oxytocin is 100 times more powerful that any other drug and you don’t even know you are taking it
Withdrawal is often profound
And deadly
Approach “love” like something that can kill you
dynasty_400 5y ago
Poetic.. but sounds like you've never slammed heroin :)
abudun79 5y ago
I appreciate the warning, thanks!
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
DMT is stronger than oxytocin
Geckobird 5y ago
DMT is probably stronger than everything, but it’s not addictive like heroin or oxycontin.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
powerful is a synonym for strength, not addictiveness.
Yes I know I am being an asshole
Geckobird 5y ago
No dude, DMT is fucking insane. I’m afraid to delve into what I have....but maybe I need to.
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RivenHalf 5y ago
This sounds like virtue signaling if anything. Define "love." There is nothing noble or profound about "love" as we have defined it, it is a fools errand and there is absolutely nothing brave about it. It sounds like you're trying to apply red pill principles to blue pill means. Go ahead and "love" all you want, you'll be the next one typing a cautionary tale. AWALT
abudun79 5y ago
If that happens once every 40 or 50 years, I will deal with it. If one day I hit the pavement so hard that I become a sissy, I might change my mind, but not now.
To me, RP means I have the choice and make a decision. Treating RP knowledge as something that has to affect you in the same way as someone else, is just one conclusion.
Not seeing the world though a BP filter enables you to deal with the obstacles that you face during life, be prepared for them. Avoiding those obstacles all the way is a valid choice, but it also is the opposite of improving yourself. It is running away from a risk and hiding from the possibility of pain and failure.
RivenHalf 5y ago
If you have fully swallowed red pill knowledge and still honestly believe a woman is capable of love, then you're either rationalizing or have yet to fully digest it.
This of course is solely my opinion. You're free to do as you please and hey maybe you're even right. I wish you luck.
abudun79 5y ago
Problem is, I did not say that.
RivenHalf 5y ago
Then I'm unclear on what you're saying because I'm reading your post as saying don't be afraid to fall in love despite of Red Pill truth. Correct me if I'm wrong here?
abudun79 5y ago
is not the same as
The first is "her love", the second "your love".
What I say is: RP enables you to know how women are and expect what might happen, how they will behave in certain situations and therefore not be caught by surprise and and fall from a pink cloud. And it enables you to understand her behavior and reactions in an appropriate way and be prepared and act accordingly, and not be blind until a big bang happens.
And you can enjoy all of the good things about your feelings (your love for her), although you have all of that RP truth in the back of your head. And when things start to go down the drain, for whatever reason, your chances to either fix something or eject in a way that you benefit are very good.
Or in short: RP enables you to enjoy your love all the time, lead a better LTR and not be affected too hard during any breakup, that you saw coming.
RivenHalf 5y ago
I got you. Personally I choose not to "love" someone that I know is incapable of loving me back but that's my personal priority. What even is love anyway, a feeling, a chemical or a lie we tell ourselves? Probably a little bit of it all. Every man has to make his own choices though, if you choose to "love" but can separate yourself from the outcome still then I genuinely wish you the best of luck with that my man. Maybe I'm just jaded, maybe I've just lost hope, maybe a little bit of it all. If you still have hope in your heart then honestly, go for it
abudun79 5y ago
Now we're on the same page :-) Have a good day !!
U-94 5y ago
It's important though (love) as the grinder. You have to go through it 3 or 4 times before reality clicks.
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CallMeBR 5y ago
This is a quality post and some comments are just as good.