First post, maybe no great insights but feel like sharing my day with you bros...
36, divorced 2 years ago, monk mode so no sex since last summer. Lost 130lbs so far on Tim Ferris' slow carb diet + lifting for year, now switched to crossfit to get from 235 to 200 this summer. Calorie deficit and building muscle hurts my efficiency bone. Preparing to get on stage with my new band, first time in 6 years.
Ok now on to the sex. Decided I could indulge in a summer fling without too much distraction so sent half dozen hooks out on OK Cupid, some nice banter with a chick, sense of humour is a good test that they are not needy, crazy, broken, etc. Some innuendo, teasing come over right now, set up date for my free night. I lost a couple hours sleep that night thinking about sex...monk mode and then turn faucet on and I had to rub one out. Btw if you guys aren't doing PC excercises...why the fuck not!
Full 8 work day then meeting with a local music promoter and a satisfying recording session at my studio with a talented young singer. Mixing it down put me 5 min late so rode my bike couple blocks to the bar. I guess this is my point. When I arrived at the bar, I had already won. I expected to fuck her tonight but my day had been so fulfilling that good ol outcome independence had kicked in and I was golden.
I bought her a drink because I wanted to, the trp handbook has been studied and digested and now I just do what the fuck I want. The basic framework of pickup was there. Bounce to second venue where I know everyone, told her I had to go there to get a banner I left there which I did. Adventure mode. Bouncer waves me thru so no $20 cover, super popular band from Chicago is playing, escalate kino, bounce to my studio around the corner to drop off my shit (leading), play song on piano and she sings harmony and lean over and kiss. So easy to feel the kiss moment if you relax and pay attention. Make out till she's plenty wet, disengage and lead to back room, plenty of clit attention so now LMR (just standard "I never do this"--" yea, I know") Fuck on the couch, have a smoke out back, fuck on the bed. Buy plan b for risk management, lets grab a soda, walk to car.
At her car she says, and I think you guys will appreciate this: "I dont know how you got me to do all this, i'm kinda amazed" - "hope you had a good time" - "I did :)" No awkward are you gonna call me moment, little kiss and I'm off into the night. Sweet girl, good sex, super fun night.
My take away from this as I head back into the focus of monk mode; sex is fun, but its no big deal. If you become a cool guy by letting go of worries about the future and do what you want in the long term by doing the uncomfortable to get there then you will have a great time and can just enjoy women without anxiety, unnecessary effort or stress. Become who you want to be and the world will open up for you.
Good luck guys.
doreddc 5y ago
You're pathetic. You're an old loser who destroyed his life and youth and your only coping mechanism for that is lying to yourself and bringing people around you down. You rationalize yourself that sex isn't a big deal because you're never going to get a second chance in all history and time and space to be a young, healthy individual living life to the fullest, the pinnacle of which is becoming one with another person you desire with all your being.
The biggest, largest fuck you to old scum like you who destroy and misguide the youth out of envy. At least have the decency to keep your pussy lies to yourself.
okojofiveeyes 5y ago
Why all the hard work to get her when she is doing no hard work to get you?
MonkeyMajik25 5y ago
Is The RedPill sidebar the trp handbook youre talking about?or is it the The Rational Male?
BloodRedPillz 5y ago
The red pill handbook is a condensed version of the sidebar. You can find it by googling "The Red Pill Handbook V2".
attack_bronson 5y ago
There’s a free pdf to ePub converter called PDFmate. Run it through that and you can load the handbook into iBooks for easy reading.
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look_good 5y ago
cool, just the type of post I needed today. thanks op
GainzdalfTheWhey 5y ago
Did you start at 360lbs jeez, what about loose skin
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Sure as hell did. God damn Fat fucker past self. Right now its not too bad, just a little tummy skin but still enough fat that I cant tell. Wont really know till I get to 200. Note to self: up your exfoliating and moisturizing game.
oneredguy 5y ago
That is an incredibly dense story, as in filled with a huuuuge amount of incredibly hard work. Amazing brother. Incredible. Just imagine how much better it will be next year? And the year after? The upward spiral.
Do be wary of this girl. In fact I think you should only pump and dump her in principle alone, because you still don't know how high that fire rise. How high does the pheonix fly? And my God there is nothing like breaking up with a girl on your terms. To actually see it happen.
To the stars. And they say it can't be done.
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According to OP, he states he’s back to monk mode. Whether or not she can break INTO his frame is left to be seen.
Morphs_ 5y ago
She can also be the first of the plate collection
oneredguy 5y ago
My first plate has a special place in my heart. I couldn't believe how kind she was to me.
Now?
I would never put up with such disrespect, from such a kind woman. Was great to know her, and to know.
3d_truth 5y ago
Good job although beware, it's easy to feel like you've got your shot down after a successful date. I go through upswings and downswings with the same game. During upswings, everything's easy, pussy on tap, everyone wants me, trp comes naturally. Downswings, I really start to question myself, hot girls start feeling unnatainable, etc. You get the point.
You wouldn't be making this post if you didn't just receive validation from.a success.
magx01 5y ago
36 years old and posting an inline diary about having sex.....
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
> I bought her a drink because I wanted to, the trp handbook has been studied and digested and now I just do what the fuck I want
Your logic is boneheaded here. Just because you want to do it, doesn't make it suddenly a good idea. What's next, "I married her because I wanted to, not because she asked me... then I handed her the key to my chastity belt, not because she wanted to but because I've read TRP and fully accept the consequences".
Having said that...... it's a fucking drink, no biggie. The problem is when you buy all her drinks, she doesn't reciprocate, you buy meals, etc.
The problem with buying girls drinks is anti-investment. If she feels she wins she wants to walk. And she feels she wins double if tells her friends "and after he bought me those drinks, I didn't even sleep with him". They love this. It's why doing things for women is such a terrible idea: humans find it easy to walk away when they are winning and painful after they've invested.
The other problem with "because I wanted to" is that this "want" is often driven by social pressure, eg by her feeling you should be the drinks, or other people encouraging you to, or that's what you think she wants, etc.
> Buy plan b for risk management, lets grab a soda, walk to car.
The fuck? Use a condom or get used to answering to "daddy". Girls have proven that they cannot be responsible for birth control.
> My take away from this as I head back into the focus of monk mode; sex is fun, but its no big deal. If you become a cool guy by letting go of worries about the future and do what you want in the long term by doing the uncomfortable to get there then you will have a great time and can just enjoy women without anxiety, unnecessary effort or stress. Become who you want to be and the world will open up for you.
That's a hell of a stretch from one lay.
Thanks for the FR, glad you had a good time... but this comes across like First Post Syndrome: you get an early good result and you feel like you've made it. But this is one lay... with likely no repercussions. You did good... and you're right about a lot of it.... but it's certainly not "be a cool guy and sex will naturally happen", you are discounting a big chunk of luck and a lot of the moves you made to make things work.
> sweet girl
Really? How sweet? She fucked you on a first date, and it's extremely unlikely this was the first time this has happened with her given how relaxed you say she was afterwards.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Thanks for your analysis. I've read all the theory on breaking the convention of buying the drinks/meal etc, and it makes sense. In fact, I remember mutering to myself "here you go m'lady" as sort of an ironic comment to myself that it was beta af :) However, I maintain that its more important to be present and play the field as you see it; therefore keeping a mental checklist of do's and dont's in your head prevents that.
The condom thing is a much more important rule to have especially in that moment of desire when head needs to be clear enough to make right decisions. For the record, I handed her the pill and water and watched her swallow the motherfucker and it was the secondary coverage.
Now, I did go from hi to fucking in about 2 hours which is well above the class avg I believe. Given, I am a pretty cool dude who had tons of social proof and a great attitude and higher SMV. But to not mislead the noobs here, I did implement a bunch of the great ideas from this sub and the works of Mystery, D'Angelo, Manson, RSD etc...you make your own luck, but ultimately it was the bouncing, leading, logistics that made it through go from attraction to comfort to seduction so quickly and seemlessly without any LMR.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
It really is. That's amazingly fast.
Sure... but what if she'd refused? There's no legal reason she has to do this.
Yep, absolutely right.
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jonlojoie 5y ago
RSD is a joke. La Ruina says it is okay to buy them a drink.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
I dont know man, I think Tyler broke off from Mystery and created a more wholistic approach. Kinda like Jung and Freud.
jonlojoie 5y ago
You aren't gonna fuck serious hotties
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Haha maybe not, but let a guy dream ;)
CricketPancakeMix 5y ago
Oh my gosh, the slut shaming in that last sentence is absolutely ridiculous. Why can't someone be sweet and enjoy sex? But, I do agree with the Plan B statement; keep the condom on! Baby free and (for the most part) STD free!
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
on a first date. with a stranger.
Fuck off with your slut shaming shaming.
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CricketPancakeMix 5y ago
I'm sorry you don't find high value gals that also like sex, but (speaking as someone who is in college, which is a high hookup environment) there are MANY wonderful people (smart, personable, attractive, loyal) who have sex on the first date.
Edit: I'd like to point out that I said "wonderful people," and not "wonderful women" because I think it's fine for a guy to have sex on the first date as well. I don't like double standards. :) Both sexes can be sweet and have sex whenever they are comfortable.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
I can't bring myself to discuss a subject rationally with someone who needs to ask if semen is bad for their teeth.
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MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
You're female, you have a vested interested in pushing an agenda that benefits the female at the expense of the male.
kaspell 5y ago
Fast, cheap, or quality: at most, you only get to pick two.
CricketPancakeMix 5y ago
Alright, so I'd pick fast and quality...
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Alpha_Jedi 5y ago
Cool story, thanks for sharing. Cheers.
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No need to explain yourself to anyone. That's also RP
[deleted] 5y ago
This whole post oozes cool. We desperately need some chill on this sub. People in the anger phase should relax, do some meditation, go out hiking, play music, whatever the fuck they like to do - doing all this monk mode of course. Then once they realize, that, oh shit, my life is actually pretty great and I don't even need sex at all, that's when the social superpowers come in. You'll be grounded af, and supremely confident.
Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 5y ago
I agree. Post-divorce sex for a woman is a "magical experience"....for most men, it is an uneventful chore that takes you further away from all the life goals you put off/destroyed while married.
It's strange how the pursuit (sex) that once meant EVERYTHING, is now relegated to the thing that most likely destroyed your life.
The Buddha was correct.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Right on man! Eloquently put!
Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 5y ago
Just earlier today, I was cleaning the "sex spots" off of my $1000 one year-old gel memory mattress....and contemplating. I've actually had enough women since my separation and divorce to really make a qualified assessment that sex just doesn't make me happy anymore. Be it oral, anal, or whatever myriad of positions of vag pounding this past couple of years with six different women.....the climax was never as fulfilling as that initial attraction to them. Though I'm more closely akin to the "black pill", I believe I was just born lucky by being an attractive, creative, and well employed man with a huge dick. The Red Pill is more of an observation of the way contemporary life actually is, rather than a "lifestyle" for me.
My current gf would be devastated to read that I would rather go biking or hiking with her than have her climbing all over me wanting another orgasm. The incels must think I'm nuts.....
Geez, what the hell happened to us?! The Divorce Rape?
AwkwardEmpath 5y ago
Must be nice.. being average in everyway and starving for pussy is 0 fun. Appreciate what you got man.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Thats a heart/soul problem man. TRP doesnt really have the answers for that. I would suggest religious or spiritual literature. Read Modern Man in Search of a Soul by Carl Jung.
Wolfoflulzstreet 5y ago
“test that they are not needy, crazy, broken, etc...”
Good luck with that testing.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Well, all water is wet. Some quenches thirst, some makes you more thirsty...and some just fucking kills you.
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EqualFaithlessness 5y ago
Yes sir. You nailed it. So so important to build that momentum, no matter where it comes from.
theredcandy 5y ago
Fuck's sake. I'm retarded. Posted from the wrong account.
Here's the original post.
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Great stuff, man!
>I expected to fuck her tonight but my day had been so fulfilling that good ol outcome independence had kicked in and I was golden.
That's the biggest takeaway here.
If all your wins are coming from getting laid, then your self esteem becomes dependent on that. If you care more about yourself, then everything else falls into place. You've got to be winning at *something* – it could be anything, really.
Wins have a cumulative effect and make it easier for you to win some more. When you lose, it's easy to keep losing if you don't snap yourself out of it and start getting some "easier wins".
do_it_or_leave 5y ago
Now your accounts are traceable. I suggest you to delete both.
theredcandy 5y ago
It was a newish account and I deleted it. I only have this account now.
look_good 5y ago
jesus, fuck this world we live in
TheReformist94 5y ago
Sex rele is a big deal,especially if you're not getting it.its not just the physical activity but the validation that comes along. It's a form of validation that cannot be replaced by any other form and feels great.
Incels are miserable
blacklightsleaze 5y ago
Been on the both sides. In my sexless days, years actually, I felt miserable and unsatisfied with my life no matter what I did. There was always this bad feeling in the background that I couldn't get rid off, unless... I get sex. And when I fixed bunch of bullshit in my life and things started to work out with women it just felt good. It's an instant relief that nothing else in life can give you. I can go without sex for weeks right now, but I don't care and still feel good, because I know that when I go out I can find a woman to fuck. It's a catch 22.
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If you need sex for validation then you're no different than the incels you just hated on.
TheReformist94 5y ago
Who said I hate them? Why would you wish misery on someone?
Glitsh 5y ago
Where is anyone wishing misery on them?
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
All over the internet where fembots gather.
Just yesterday Bearing was discussing a group of women agitating to make Incels a terrorist group so they could stop Incels randomly on the streets and harass them. They were totally serious. This is how women think.
Men who can't get laid are creepy.
Incels can't get laid. Therefore Incels are creepy.
In fact, Incels are evil and terrorists and don't exist except to wipe our feet.
Round them up and imprison all the guys who can't get laid.
Female logic in a nutshell.
jonlojoie 5y ago
Most terrorists are hypnotized in psych wards and told to do stuff. One fbi agent got caught. https://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi\-groom\-mentally\-ill\-right\-wing\-terrorist/
Trust me they can do whatever they want is psych wards. I'm trying to expose the torture that goes on in there. #documentpsychwards
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BluepillProfessor 5y ago
So...it just happens?
Take note, it doesn't "just happen." A MAN has to make it happen.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
I did want to make clear that I employed trp strats and pua tactics in a pretty textbook way and that enabled me to achieve a quick lay. I think the two most important concepts where leading and logistics.
I had a plan for the night and I just had to build enough comfort thru conversation and trust. For instance after first bar, we walked my bike back to my place and I took her down a dark alley to my back door. She hestiated at the entrance so I laughed it off and said come on. She said she was breaking her rules but followed. Ah, so you do something you're scared of with me and are safe and comfortable...trust established.
We got back to my place to drop off thing I picked up at bar and she mentioned how smoothly she was already back at my place. Note, I never said "lets go back to my place to have sex" Her decision if she wants my cock in her is made when she is naked and wet on my couch.
AfterC 5y ago
You can tell you're old and have been burned before because you cautiously bought PLAN B!
God love this place.
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Bearhardy 5y ago
What a shitty post.
This is not about sex mattering sex matters period if not this sub wouldn't exist geez, this about preselection and showing skills, status, confidence and leading this would work on any girl and it doesn't matter if you have been in monk mode 30 years or you fucked that morning this is about sexual strategy people if you make a plan and stick to it is going to work.
An_Actual_Politician 5y ago
Outcome independence. Trust in the process, not the results, because you can 100% control process. Results rely on a number of factors that preparation cannot always overcome.
Bearhardy 5y ago
Maybe not a single result but results overall are to be noted
anabolic92 5y ago
It has been posted here several times.
Sex can be seen somewhat as money.
Have a constant income or the security that you can have it and it doesn't matter, have none and you're fucked in life.
You have experienced that you can have access to it, therefore belong to the first group.
Tell that to guys that get laid once every 6 months if lucky.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Yea, I'm getting laid once a year by choice. I'm not arguing against a biological need for sex or physiological benefits of it.
I was trying to say that even though I had a real nice fuck after a year abstinence and it was very enjoyable, it was just a nice ending to an already great day. It's significance compared to the tremendous postive strides I am taking in my life is miniscule. I think that's an important prospective for guys starting on the journey cause I remember 2 years ago the need for the validation was so strong, it was like NO ONE will ever want to fuck me again. Now sex is no biggie.
Thanks for prompting me to clarify, this post was sorta a journal entry...next time I'll try to have better content and structure and not be such a fucking fag :)
El_Shakiel 5y ago
You didnt rubber up, didn't you ? Better read the side bar from up to bottom once again my dude...
wrong_assumption 5y ago
I think the OP, even though he boasts about his strong frame, got carried away emotionally. There's no rational reason for not wearing a condom.
jonlojoie 5y ago
I always question if these brag posts are real. A real guy would feel weird doing this. So many fakes on here. Idiots believe them and take their advice. You guys just have shit personalities and cannot attract a good fem that isn't deranged. Yes they are all crazy. If you guys are just masculine you don't need all these rules. Being in the moment is the best part and also being with yourself and admiring yourself. The self pride gets messed up if you have a hierarchy of rules triggering a contrived reaction every second.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
Yea, I dont understand why someone would make up stories on the internet to get admiration from ppl they dont know but I guess it happens. Being in the moment point was in my post so don't take credit for that.
Its bragging in the sense of this is a locker room and its hey guys I got laid last night check it out. I'll prob tell my band mates the short version without all the strategy trp stuff. But I tried to add some useful insights for the guys and seems like a few got something out it.
That's enough for me and you haters can suck my dick.
ajbrooks192 5y ago
There is no point to this post. You are just bragging to a bunch of strangers on an app on your phone. Lame.
wayneinthegame 5y ago
I just use the browser version cause the app is too slow.
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The point was that getting laid doesn't require expert planning and organizationn or perfect adherence to game principles, but rather a holistic combination of red pill traits and mindsets that makes you the man worthy of an easy lay, replete with frame control and outcome independence. It's good to be reminded of the reality we're all working to achieve.
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BluepillProfessor 5y ago
He stated the point clearly and concisely. Maybe you missed it?
ajbrooks192 5y ago
So you're telling me the point to his post was "it's easier to have sex if you aren't worried about it"?
BluepillProfessor 5y ago
Exactly! It is in the post title: Sex is no biggie. Unless it is.
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I pretty much agree with everything except the no-condom sex with a stranger. She could have had an STD ya know, LOL.